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alright guys, ive been flashing roms since forever the second i got my one x, however their are 2 amazing kernels that i cant choose in between.
Francos r6 and faux123 kernel. both kernels are with no doubt the best out there at the moment.
i am not getting average battery life on francos and faux's seem very stable with UV control. so anyone used both and would like to offer any advice? im really stuck here
i was using Franco r5 thrn i changed to Faux
Faux is better
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I've been using Faux's kernels since Sensation, i've tried many over the years but he always hits the nail on the head everytime. Was glad when he started dev'ing on the One X.
Good power consumption, battery life and governors not to mention some of the nice tech he's brought us like ZRam for example. By the way he still doesn't have the phone yet so if you feel generous then go donate to him so we can get even better kernels!
Evil-Dragon said:
I've been using Faux's kernels since Sensation, i've tried many over the years but he always hits the nail on the head everytime. Was glad when he started dev'ing on the One X.
Good power consumption, battery life and governors not to mention some of the nice tech he's brought us like ZRam for example. By the way he still doesn't have the phone yet so if you feel generous then go donate to him so we can get even better kernels!
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i just flashed his kernel, hoping for the best.
and 2 beers for him
faux of course!!
The thing that "bothers" me is, if these 2 kernels are so great (people here seem to be fond of faux's but I've heard great things about franco's), why don't these 2 devs join forces to develop the ultimate kernel?
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The thing that "bothers" me is, if these 2 kernels are so great (people here seem to be fond of faux's but I've heard great things about franco's), why don't these 2 devs join forces to develop the ultimate kernel?
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I couldn't agree more, this would be perfect
stezo2k said:
I couldn't agree more, this would be perfect
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Because every kernel dev has their own vision on how they want it.
When I'm not using one I compile I prefer showp1984 bricked kernel.
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I tried all kernels and Faux's has the most battery life and is the coolest one.
How far were you able to undervolt? I can go -150mV without freezes, but it freezes on -175mV (I just lowered them all). So I'm running with -125mV to be safe and it looks like most of the overheating is gone now
i personally think franco kernel is good.
Tried all these kernels always go back to stock.
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I've flashed both before, faux wins. Do I like the layout of his thread and announcing new versions? No, haha. He makes up for it though with his awesome kernel releases.
Franco for me! Esp r7. HTC scorce finally fixed! Lol
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kozmikkick said:
Because every kernel dev has their own vision on how they want it.
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No one is preventing them from having a side project... Where they could put changes they don't agree with each other.
I just think it's a waste of potential and we'll never have the best kernel/software/whatever, until the best devs on their particular fields join forces. There will always be so much to choose from... Yes, choice is good, but sometimes, there's just too much choice...
zvieratko said:
I tried all kernels and Faux's has the most battery life and is the coolest one.
How far were you able to undervolt? I can go -150mV without freezes, but it freezes on -175mV (I just lowered them all). So I'm running with -125mV to be safe and it looks like most of the overheating is gone now
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I just under-volted 100mV above 1Ghz and -75mV below, which I think it is quite safe.
The only way to properly under-volt is to lock the CPU to a specific frequency, take away 25mV and stress test with benchmark and games. Keep on doing this until we found the minimum voltage the phone lock up, than we can increase the voltage up 25mV and this will be the lowest stable voltage for that frequency.
However, since currently there is not a reliable way to control max and min frequencies with Tegra 3, it is difficult to do the above.
Anyway, -150mV is very good result, I don't think the CPU can take more than that especially on the higher frequencies.
You can néver harm a CPU(chip) when undervolting it. You'll only end up making it unstable when it doesn't get enough power to do it's job.
I tried faux kernel and uv quite much but still overheating exists.. and battery on franco isnt the best for sure.
I like the idea of the two developers working together..
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Rageypeep said:
Franco for me! Esp r7. HTC scorce finally fixed! Lol
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A lack of compiler warnings doesn't make the compiled code any better though.
I prefer Faux's b3. Nothing has come close in battery life yet.
Azurael said:
A lack of compiler warnings doesn't make the compiled code any better though.
I prefer Faux's b3. Nothing has come close in battery life yet.
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Yup, but franco did include many tegra kernel updates, which somehow result on better performance. I noticed great battery on faux kernel
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im running francos r6 kernel and cant complain about battery/performance.
Hello,
My main criterion in deciding which of the many custom ROMs to go with is amount of battery life improvement I will have.
I see that the AHRD rom is the most popular, but does it also have the best battery life?
Or will the battery life improvements only occur when the source code is released and the One X runs on an ICS Kernel? I am under the impression that for some strange reason, the One X is running on a gingerbread kernel.
Thanks
This should properbly be in the Q&A section.
But anyway if you want great batterylife you should try Cyanogenmod. Those are the most basic ICS roms. Without any Sense gimmicks to suck the power.
That coupled with the Franco kernel should give you good battery life.
At the moment I'm using insertcoin with bricked kernel. And i have about 30% left at the end of the day. And I'm a fairly heavy user. So I find that to be acceptable.
And sorry if my spelling or grammer sucks, I'm from Denmark, so English is not my first language
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Charmeleon Rom giving me 24 hours battery life with auto brightness on.
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forumhookersdotcom said:
Charmeleon Rom giving me 24 hours battery life with auto brightness on.
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ARHD gives me 57h battery life with autobrightness on The question is how much screen on time you get
And one more question, where are the mods to move that thread to Q/A section
6 hours of on screen time.
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6 hours of on screen time.
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what kernel do u use? Oo
muamers said:
ARHD gives me 57h battery life with autobrightness on The question is how much screen on time you get
And one more question, where are the mods to move that thread to Q/A section
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What kernel are you using?
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Robert1dk said:
What kernel are you using?
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Using stock kernel for now (signature) ... will give a try faux kernel after the next official release.
stephen2282 said:
what kernel do u use? Oo
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Franco r9
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Virtually everything that is asked on this board is a question. In fact, the majority of people who visit this board come to get a question answered. So the distinction is odd to me. People ask questions within threads that have declarative sentence titles all the time.
So if I had said "AHRD ROM gives insane battery life" then I guess it belongs in the general forum. Then if someone replies that Chameleon does even better as post #2, and I reply, why is it so much better as post #3. Then I have asked a question. My point is that in every thread there are questions, whether it's post #1 or post #3 seems like an arbitrary distinction. The fact that the Q&A section is not growing very quickly suggests confusion, since I still believe that if you analyzed the content of each post, and dare I say the overarching purpose of the board, is to ask questions. Newbies also see that he Q&A section isn't nearly as well frequented, so they post in the general section.
I think that the Q&A forum and the FAQ overlap in purpose. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Thank you though for the answers to my question. I had expected, given the Anandtech review, that the One X would have comparable battery life to the iphone 4. However, I am finding this to be anything but the case, and I recently installed AHRD (wiped battery stats, etc). When trying to run down the battery (max brightness at 550 nits and surfing over 3g), I'm dead in 2 hours. My 2 yr-old iphone 4,with a peak brightness of about 500 nits, lasts approximately twice as long under identical conditions. I am finding the One X no better than the HTC Amaze, which has notoriously poor battery life. On the positive side, the One X's battery life is not as bad as the original EVO 4G, and the One X's standby battery drain is extremely low. I shudder to think what the battery life would be like if I had a US version which has LTE.
I have not noticed any improvements with any custom ROM thus far, but it's possible that using the screen at 75% brightness is basically such a determining factor that any gains in battery life are imperceptible to me. If someone can confirm that it is possible to drain the battery if you surfed at max brightness for 3 hours continuously and that that's just the state of phones today, then I can accept that. I just want to make sure that my phone is behaving normally and that any battery tweaks, cpu undervolting, wont' make a huge difference.
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Virtually everything that is asked on this board is a question. In fact, the majority of people who visit this board come to get a question answered. So the distinction is odd to me. People ask questions within threads that have declarative sentence titles all the time.
So if I had said "AHRD ROM gives insane battery life" then I guess it belongs in the general forum. Then if someone replies that Chameleon does even better as post #2, and I reply, why is it so much better as post #3. Then I have asked a question. My point is that in every thread there are questions, whether it's post #1 or post #3 seems like an arbitrary distinction. The fact that the Q&A section is not growing very quickly suggests confusion, since I still believe that if you analyzed the content of each post, and dare I say the overarching purpose of the board, is to ask questions. Newbies also see that he Q&A section isn't nearly as well frequented, so they post in the general section.
I think that the Q&A forum and the FAQ overlap in purpose. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Thank you though for the answers to my question. I had expected, given the Anandtech review, that the One X would have comparable battery life to the iphone 4. However, I am finding this to be anything but the case, and I recently installed AHRD (wiped battery stats, etc). When trying to run down the battery (max brightness at 550 nits and surfing over 3g), I'm dead in 2 hours. My 2 yr-old iphone 4,with a peak brightness of about 500 nits, lasts approximately twice as long under identical conditions. I am finding the One X no better than the HTC Amaze, which has notoriously poor battery life. On the positive side, the One X's battery life is not as bad as the original EVO 4G, and the One X's standby battery drain is extremely low. I shudder to think what the battery life would be like if I had a US version which has LTE.
I have not noticed any improvements with any custom ROM thus far, but it's possible that using the screen at 75% brightness is basically such a determining factor that any gains in battery life are imperceptible to me. If someone can confirm that it is possible to drain the battery if you surfed at max brightness for 3 hours continuously and that that's just the state of phones today, then I can accept that. I just want to make sure that my phone is behaving normally and that any battery tweaks, cpu undervolting, wont' make a huge difference.
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None of the custom ROMs change anything to do with battery consumption. A custom kernel could help, however I have tried them all and none of them make any appreciable difference.
Browsing over 3G seems to kill battery fast, I have never been able to get more than 3 hours screen time, and most of the time it is 2 or 2 and a half hours.
Hi thanks alot for the reply. I was thought that custom ROMs were supposed to improve battery life (one of the major reasons, if not the major reason, to install a custom ROM). In fact, in most of the intros for ROMs, they say something like "excellent battery life".
But you're saying that it is at the kernel level where improvements in battery life are made?
I agree with your conclusions--each custom ROM is about the same regarding battery life, and it is possible to surf and kill the phone in 3 hours of screen time, if I want my max brightness glory and over 3g.
Is it worth it?
How do I go about testing the stability of the phone ( I don't want to reduce clock speed )
If you want your phone to work perfectly without loosing speed it's not worth it ( change wouldn't be noticeable )
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If you want your phone to work perfectly without loosing speed it's not worth it ( change wouldn't be noticeable )
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Does undervolting really lower performance? You're sure you're not thinking about under clocking?
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ben-fisher-bro said:
Is it worth it?
How do I go about testing the stability of the phone ( I don't want to reduce clock speed )
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I predict a "my HOX isn't working right, I blame HTC" thread shortly after you try this.
But really, what are your expected gains from doing this?
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Does undervolting really lower performance? You're sure you're not thinking about under clocking?
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If you're not sure about what you are doing it won't lower performance it will probably result in a lot of crashing and error messages, I personally think it's not worth it for the amount of battery you could gain ( few minutes )
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If you're not sure about what you are doing it won't lower performance it will probably result in a lot of crashing and error messages, I personally think it's not worth it for the amount of battery you could gain ( few minutes )
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Well, I have had it undervolted with -150mv in a week or something and I haven't experienced any errors and crashes. I don't have it for the battery, but for the temps.
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I've been under voting my s3 747m for over two weeks now, between 75 to 300mv lower, at 1.89 I'm running at 1200mv, although I'm only running it at 1.5.
To test it I use Stability Test app, on scaling for 3 hour runs, it will stress all frequencies.
If you find a crash you increase the voltage at that frequency, BUT, the best way to test it, instead of using scaling test, use the burn in one, but manually set your speed and let it stress test XX frequency for a long period, this Is where I found the most of my crashes.
This isn't an easy or a quick job, it'll require a good weekend of mucking around. I have all my speeds down to 5mv increments instead of the stock 25 the apps give you.
But so far, I don't get voltage related crashes, only the random KP caused by cm10 bugs.
If people are interested in the voltages for this phone I could post them
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I'm uv @ 1137 and oc @ 1.6 using arhd 9.1.0 faux 006u kernel and the phone is running better than ever
I use mhl hdmi with sixaxis and the battery used to die in a hour and it got really hot but now I played for a hour before work and it used 40% battery and it was warm but not overheating
But before u go playin around with things look into it all cores are different and behave different
This thread will tell u everything it even has a gragh on wot chips can do what
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815466
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Sorry about the humor title, i made this thread to stop arguing in the productive kernel development threads, so please vote here!
Did you chose your Tegra 3 One X for it's gaming brute force, games that Tegra 3 was designed for like HORN, Shadowgun THD and Dead trigger, games that Nvidia aggressively pursue, like they ported unreal engine 3 and keep pushing for the usage of quad core in games, this kind of console like gaming requires the maximum out of your CPU
This is why we are endlessly trying to squeeze T3 to it's limits, we found the optimal CPU governor settings in the gaming scripts and renovate gaming boost app and pushed top kernel devs like Faux to remove the single core step which was confusing and causing lag in multicore able games
Tegra3 in its full speed on the One X will give you around 2.5 hours of non stop gaming screen on time, the good news the boost mode is easily switchable by using the renovate gaming boost app and this way you can gain more of your battery during normal use
Or non of this matter and you prefer development efforts to focus on extracting the maximum screen on battery time, even at the expense of hindering the power of this thing, you are okay with it even if it means breaking the quad core ability in the Tegra3, like in the Nvidia Glowball tech-demo (any tweaking to the quad balance will cause lag in this app, the same for many Tegra THD games )
Gladiators, begin! :laugh:
I couldn't care less about 3d games on my mobile. What I want is a sleek interface, no stutter when browsing through websites or menus and a "decent" battery life. And, the customisation options of Android.
I don't think playing 3d games on phones is feasible yet. Battery life is too much of an issue and the phone (and internet) abilities of mobile phonesbis of far superior importance to entertainment for most users.
PS: It annoys me so much that theoretically very simplistic games like xxx with friends use so much energy, though. I wish they were properly coded.
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I bought it primarily because of it's superior screen and design, and ARHD :3
Nubzori said:
I bought it primarily because of it's superior screen and design, and ARHD :3
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er its a poll about gaming vs battery lets keep it there
I didnt care about gaming before (ocassionaly some softcore angry birds gaming) but a week ago i bought virtua tennis and i must i m pretty impressed by it and i cant stop playing!
baum01 said:
I couldn't care less about 3d games on my mobile. What I want is a sleek interface, no stutter when browsing through websites or menus and a "decent" battery life. And, the customisation options of Android.
I don't think playing 3d games on phones is feasible yet. Battery life is too much of an issue and the phone (and internet) abilities of mobile phonesbis of far superior importance to entertainment for most users.
PS: It annoys me so much that theoretically very simplistic games like xxx with friends use so much energy, though. I wish they were properly coded.
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I bought a ferrari for save fuel...
The battery life is enough for me I can easily do 4.30h with 70% brightness if I don't play anything or around 3h if u play for around 1h, if you wanted a more power efficient phone there's the razr maxx or even the one xl/at&t version , there's also a lot of very small portable batteries with 3000mah for a very cheap price.... So I don't really get why people want 6h on screen, you will never use the phone for all this time if you're outside.
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Gaming no doubt. I am most of the time at home, so battery is not an issue.
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gaming as tegra is known for gaming so thats why i bought it
batna.antab said:
I bought a ferrari for save fuel...
The battery life is enough for me I can easily do 4.30h with 70% brightness if I don't play anything or around 3h if u play for around 1h, if you wanted a more power efficient phone there's the razr maxx or even the one xl/at&t version , there's also a lot of very small portable batteries with 3000mah for a very cheap price.... So I don't really get why people want 6h on screen, you will never use the phone for all this time if you're outside.
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exactly especially since the phone drains almost zero when the screen is off even with all the data connections
i mean you have crazy amount of screen off time and screen on is based on your usage
pretty damn sweet deal if you ask me
but some people are asking for kernel development like the old days, where you try to control and subdue the device performance for the sake of more battery
Tegra 3 is not like those old devices, and this logic doesn't apply, for three reasons:
1- Its a quad core, don't get a quad superphone for your emergency use!
2- no point in doing anything about screen off life, Tegra 3 has it all solved and built-in thanks to the fifth Low Power core
3- you can't customize or create your own CPU governor, Tegra 3 is very unorthodox when it comes to it's CPU control, any attempt to change CPU control ends in breaking the main quad functionally, even clock speed control is very hard to do
In other words those asking for kernel development to "tam" the quad are actually asking the kernel developer to break Tegra 3, you are better off disabling cores using a core control app or reducing clock speed using userspace governor
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the main battery consumer is the screen, you gain a lot more screen time by reducing brightness than by killing Tegra 3
and those voting for i don't mind balance between the two
do you cry if Nova3 runs laggy on your One X?
Lol i really dont mind how long the battery lasts as i carry my charger anywhere! I love ragging the F**K outta it for gaming! :silly:
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I couldn't care less about 3d games on my mobile. What I want is a sleek interface, no stutter when browsing through websites or menus and a "decent" battery life. And, the customisation options of Android.
I don't think playing 3d games on phones is feasible yet. Battery life is too much of an issue and the phone (and internet) abilities of mobile phonesbis of far superior importance to entertainment for most users.
PS: It annoys me so much that theoretically very simplistic games like xxx with friends use so much energy, though. I wish they were properly coded.
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+1 and infinity.
If I really wanted to and had the time to focus on playing games I would have bought a PS Vita or something. Would have been better (since its also a game pad) and much cheaper too.
Buying a device that's meant to be primarily used for web, communication and general multitasking is a rather ridiculous idea if you want to kill it with games.
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This isn't fair fight
The thread is a one way explanation for phone..
This phone is much more then a cpu..
It's a beautiful screen..
A lovely camera
Somewhat mediocre but comparatively good music
Awesome build quality
And superb speed and power
So the phone is not just for gaming, it's d best camera phone with authentic sound, screen..
Thus only seeing gaming part of it isnt fair.
Again it's only my opinion and what way most of people look at this phone.
And before u say I should have bought one xl then it is not available in my country and I wanted to upgrade from my sgs2 so dual core»quad core should be..
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+1 and infinity.
If I really wanted to and had the time to focus on playing games I would have bought a PS Vita or something. Would have been better (since its also a game pad) and much cheaper too.
Buying a device that's meant to be primarily used for web, communication and general multitasking is a rather ridiculous idea if you want to kill it with games.
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So why did you buy the tegra 3 version?
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geko95gek said:
+1 and infinity.
If I really wanted to and had the time to focus on playing games I would have bought a PS Vita or something. Would have been better (since its also a game pad) and much cheaper too.
Buying a device that's meant to be primarily used for web, communication and general multitasking is a rather ridiculous idea if you want to kill it with games.
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how r we killing it?
with the very maximum and most technically advanced game around (Horn, unreal engine 3), with full CPU boost and the fastest kernel, battery heat around 50c and you get 2.5 hours of screen on time with brightness @25%
i doubt any vita will do better, i know iPhone 4s can die in two hours on infinity blade!
now if you don't push it, it won't spend it very simple equation!
sumeshd said:
This isn't fair fight
The thread is a one way explanation for phone..
This phone is much more then a cpu..
It's a beautiful screen..
A lovely camera
Somewhat mediocre but comparatively good music
Awesome build quality
And superb speed and power
So the phone is not just for gaming, it's d best camera phone with authentic sound, screen..
Thus only seeing gaming part of it isnt fair.
Again it's only my opinion and what way most of people look at this phone.
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i agree on all +1
but this very thread is specifically discussing gaming vs battery
you are not concerned stay out of it or choose a medium vote
I think balance is more important.
Installed a lot of games when I just got my HOX, but have been uninstalling them one by one cause they drain my battery too fast. 1-2 hrs of gaming on the phone and I need to be prepared to say bye bye to my battery
sumeshd said:
This isn't fair fight
The thread is a one way explanation for phone..
This phone is much more then a cpu..
It's a beautiful screen..
A lovely camera
Somewhat mediocre but comparatively good music
Awesome build quality
And superb speed and power
So the phone is not just for gaming, it's d best camera phone with authentic sound, screen..
Thus only seeing gaming part of it isnt fair.
Again it's only my opinion and what way most of people look at this phone.
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Lol the sound quality one the one x is awful... But again there's the s4 version for who want a better battery Life and don't like ti play vg
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Lol the sound quality one the one x is awful... But again there's the s4 version for who want a better battery Life and don't like ti play vg
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I edited my post before ur rply..lol
I knew tat ws coming and sound quality as I said is mediocre but it's better than sgs2 or iPhone or something.. imo
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sumeshd said:
I edited my post before ur rply..lol
I knew tat ws coming and sound quality as I said is mediocre but it's better than sgs2 or iPhone or something.. imo
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OT OT OT, Out!!!!!!!!!!
Hey XDA,
I am experiencing fairly poor Battery performance while using the HTC. I am currently running CM 11. Majority of the time I have to turn off mobile data, because that's the main contributor. Otherwise games heavily affect the battery and also makes my phone incredibly hot. I normally keep my cpu governor on interactive, but when playing music, I need to set it to performance as the music kicks otherwise. Is it the custom rom? Is there anything I can do? Or is that merely how the HTC One X rolls?
Thanks
James
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AOSP ROM usually less battery friendly when being compared to SENSE ROMs, but when it comes to games , most of games I have tried on my device isn't battery friendly at all ,
There are couple of threads here at HOX forums may help you of with tips and tricks to improve your experience
Check this , it was a great help for mehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156311 [URL]
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Thanks Venom, will check it out
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