alright guys, ive been flashing roms since forever the second i got my one x, however their are 2 amazing kernels that i cant choose in between.
Francos r6 and faux123 kernel. both kernels are with no doubt the best out there at the moment.
i am not getting average battery life on francos and faux's seem very stable with UV control. so anyone used both and would like to offer any advice? im really stuck here
i was using Franco r5 thrn i changed to Faux
Faux is better
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I've been using Faux's kernels since Sensation, i've tried many over the years but he always hits the nail on the head everytime. Was glad when he started dev'ing on the One X.
Good power consumption, battery life and governors not to mention some of the nice tech he's brought us like ZRam for example. By the way he still doesn't have the phone yet so if you feel generous then go donate to him so we can get even better kernels!
Evil-Dragon said:
I've been using Faux's kernels since Sensation, i've tried many over the years but he always hits the nail on the head everytime. Was glad when he started dev'ing on the One X.
Good power consumption, battery life and governors not to mention some of the nice tech he's brought us like ZRam for example. By the way he still doesn't have the phone yet so if you feel generous then go donate to him so we can get even better kernels!
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i just flashed his kernel, hoping for the best.
and 2 beers for him
faux of course!!
The thing that "bothers" me is, if these 2 kernels are so great (people here seem to be fond of faux's but I've heard great things about franco's), why don't these 2 devs join forces to develop the ultimate kernel?
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The thing that "bothers" me is, if these 2 kernels are so great (people here seem to be fond of faux's but I've heard great things about franco's), why don't these 2 devs join forces to develop the ultimate kernel?
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I couldn't agree more, this would be perfect
stezo2k said:
I couldn't agree more, this would be perfect
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Because every kernel dev has their own vision on how they want it.
When I'm not using one I compile I prefer showp1984 bricked kernel.
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I tried all kernels and Faux's has the most battery life and is the coolest one.
How far were you able to undervolt? I can go -150mV without freezes, but it freezes on -175mV (I just lowered them all). So I'm running with -125mV to be safe and it looks like most of the overheating is gone now
i personally think franco kernel is good.
Tried all these kernels always go back to stock.
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I've flashed both before, faux wins. Do I like the layout of his thread and announcing new versions? No, haha. He makes up for it though with his awesome kernel releases.
Franco for me! Esp r7. HTC scorce finally fixed! Lol
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Because every kernel dev has their own vision on how they want it.
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No one is preventing them from having a side project... Where they could put changes they don't agree with each other.
I just think it's a waste of potential and we'll never have the best kernel/software/whatever, until the best devs on their particular fields join forces. There will always be so much to choose from... Yes, choice is good, but sometimes, there's just too much choice...
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I tried all kernels and Faux's has the most battery life and is the coolest one.
How far were you able to undervolt? I can go -150mV without freezes, but it freezes on -175mV (I just lowered them all). So I'm running with -125mV to be safe and it looks like most of the overheating is gone now
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I just under-volted 100mV above 1Ghz and -75mV below, which I think it is quite safe.
The only way to properly under-volt is to lock the CPU to a specific frequency, take away 25mV and stress test with benchmark and games. Keep on doing this until we found the minimum voltage the phone lock up, than we can increase the voltage up 25mV and this will be the lowest stable voltage for that frequency.
However, since currently there is not a reliable way to control max and min frequencies with Tegra 3, it is difficult to do the above.
Anyway, -150mV is very good result, I don't think the CPU can take more than that especially on the higher frequencies.
You can néver harm a CPU(chip) when undervolting it. You'll only end up making it unstable when it doesn't get enough power to do it's job.
I tried faux kernel and uv quite much but still overheating exists.. and battery on franco isnt the best for sure.
I like the idea of the two developers working together..
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Rageypeep said:
Franco for me! Esp r7. HTC scorce finally fixed! Lol
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A lack of compiler warnings doesn't make the compiled code any better though.
I prefer Faux's b3. Nothing has come close in battery life yet.
Azurael said:
A lack of compiler warnings doesn't make the compiled code any better though.
I prefer Faux's b3. Nothing has come close in battery life yet.
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Yup, but franco did include many tegra kernel updates, which somehow result on better performance. I noticed great battery on faux kernel
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im running francos r6 kernel and cant complain about battery/performance.
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has anyone else experienced this? i have this happen to me quite a few times using bullet/synergy kernal
basically what happens is that my phone will always heat up and crash then it restarts itself..even when it's idle
i've used faux clock to keep my phone from ocing but this still seems to happen..
Try Fauxs kernels.. always stable....check your OC setting and UV settings...flash it and use at it's out of the box setting
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Try Fauxs kernels.. always stable....check your OC setting and UV settings...flash it and use at it's out of the box setting
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oc settings is set to keep the clocks at stock
i tried undervolting it by 12mv and my phone was ok, then i went a bit lower and my phone crashed again, not quite sure if i should try another custom kernel, i feel like im on the brink of bricking my phone
Yeah..not all chips are created equal...so keep it to where it's stable and you should be good. Flash Fauxs.. leave all the settings as it came and see how it does for you
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Vinsane said:
Yeah..not all chips are created equal...so keep it to where it's stable and you should be good. Flash Fauxs.. leave all the settings as it came and see how it does for you
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i dont think its actually a chip issue
my settings were
1.512ghz max 384mhz min
and
at screen off
540max
384 min
my phone heated up and crashed when i turned the screen offf..so it seems more like a software bug rather than hardware imo..
i think you misunderstood me lul. so here's the entire story
i flashed synergy a couple weeks back and had this issue, so i thought o well and went back to eaglesblood(which is pretty much stock everything)
then i decided to try jugs+bullet, it seemed fined until i went to sleep and wokeup with a phone that has its battery drained and is hot to the touch
now the settings were set to not overclock, so it doesnt seem like my chip is causing the issue
If your chip heats up enough to cause it to crash and reboot...that's not a good sign man..especially if you've tried different kernels and don't have crazy settings.
One more flash won't hurt right?
Maybe try a new combo... different rom and kernel?
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If your chip heats up enough to cause it to crash and reboot...that's not a good sign man..especially if you've tried different kernels and don't have crazy settings.
One more flash won't hurt right?
Maybe try a new combo... different rom and kernel?
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im on faux right now
it does sound bad, but its been fine when im on eaglesblood(stock kernel)
so im a bit confused all around
thing is, im playing gta 3 right now and its barely heated up, so it confuses me why it would heat up and crash/restart when its friggen idle..
Like some are saying try faux's kernal. I used to have the same problem when ocing my sgs and g2x everyone's phones are different but so far faux kernal is very stable
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BowLow said:
Like some are saying try faux's kernal. I used to have the same problem when ocing my sgs and g2x everyone's phones are different but so far faux kernal is very stable
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read up lul, im using it and it's been good so far
ya the faux kernel is doing really really well
on synergy/bullet i used to get under 4500 antutu score..
now im getting 6458 and im not even overclocking..
I unerstand this isn't what was asked, but I've never had heat issues, using the stock roms cleaned-up by myself after root. The new 2.3.6 is solid as well.
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I unerstand this isn't what was asked, but I've never had heat issues, using the stock roms cleaned-up by myself after root. The new 2.3.6 is solid as well.
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i wasnt talking about the stock kernel, i was talking about synergy and bullet
Cool. Glad it worked out for you man
Hint - find his. 06 version with gpu Turbo.... freaking awesome
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Vinsane said:
Cool. Glad it worked out for you man
Hint - find his. 06 version with gpu Turbo.... freaking awesome
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This things plenty fast without overclocking, I'm in no overcompensation contest to get my benchmark scores higher lull
Which one do u perfer guys ? Both are awesone and cant make a decision Battery life ? Hotplug efficiency? Performance ?
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I'm getting crazy good battery life and performance on lean kernel and AOKP. Franco is good too, but I think I'm getting much better battery life on lean.
Each phone is different find out your preference on your own
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James Bond kernel.
I've seen what franco has done with the nexus s kernel, realiable, smooth, and constant updates, it was always my choice. So as soon as i get my GN its the first kernel i'm going to flash and hopefully it won't ever disappoint
same for me. I have a freaking good battery life on lean but better performance with Franco
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I've tried both for a great while. Battery life with interactivex on lean and hotplug on franco lean is definitely better, on my phone Lean runs a little bit better. on my phone.
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I found a few kernels in the dev section but couldnt find the lean one. Can you guys posts the link or more info on it. Nothing i found says lean on it. Please and thank you
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I found a few kernels in the dev section but couldnt find the lean one. Can you guys posts the link or more info on it. Nothing i found says lean on it. Please and thank you
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its Imoseyon kernel on Rootzwiki. btw, Ive tried both Lean and Franco kernel, I still prefer Ezekeel Glados kernel though. amazing smooth and friendly battery life.
I was using franco's kernel, but with all the hourly updates lately, it spooked me a little, so now Im on trinity inferno512 kernel, and wow games run fluid with the GPU at 512mhz.
im still debating... im jumping back and forth but i need to stick to one for a week and try it out!
leankernel has updates just as much as franco... i say thats a good thing
i say take a week long test and run some benchmarks with each of those kernels, take a screenshot, and come back with what you like.
Im working on that now.
GLaDOS is by far the best kernel for my phone. No lags whatsoever and four hours of screen on time with the stock battery
I'm starting to lean toward glados myself. I've had a lot of issues with Franco's 14.x kernels.
I've also found lean kernel to be a bit choppy. Shadow gun runs really choppy w lean kernel, but ultra smooth w either Franco and glados. It could be that I'm not using the correct governor though.
I have tried both back and forth. AS of last update I've tried franco 14.4 (deep sleep ~50%) which is good but has a much better battery life (deep sleep at 91%) on hotplug of lean 1.8.0.
+1 for lean
I have used lean kernel for a while now. I used to get lots of lock screen lag with Franco. Which I don't with lean.
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Im on Leankernel 1.7.3 right now. Used Francos way before, but after Version 13.1 i started to get battery drain issues. So i switched over to Glados which seemed to have a good battery life to me, but was very choppy overall on Wheatley Gov'.
Lean is the best for me at the moment, almost 4 Hours Screen on time isnt a problem for me, i use the build in InteractiveX Governour, with some heavy undervolting. Data, Sync, Wifi , ... everything enabled. Screen Brightness ~ 35%
I gonna try Lean 1.8.0 Later that day. But i have to admit that Franco's next upcoming with Turtle Governor might be an interessting choice either.
For me, both devs are doing a really great job, both Kernels are good.
I've used three different Franco kernels and had freezing and reboot issues with all three of them. Never had an issue with Lean Kernel.
I don't care what kernel I have. If:
1.At the end of the day on my normal usage phone has less than 60% of battery left it means that the next day I won't manage
2. I have less than 60% I have to recharge overnight
3. Phone can get me throughout the day on heavy usage ...
Don't need any fancy kernels if they don't tick the first box
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Just tried lean kernel and its way to slow. Scrolling in text app or anywhere really isn't even half as smooth as Franco ....
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After trying many kernels... I always come back to Faux123's kernel (Currently 011b10u). It's just such great battery life... idle battery drain is just a horizontal line on the battery graph for hours. LOVE IT. (P.S. Ultra-liquid-smoothness too). http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12512-kernelgn-lte3017ics4023uvgpucpu-occifsslqbotgfiopsv010jan-17/page__st__930
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Just tried lean kernel and its way to slow. Scrolling in text app or anywhere really isn't even half as smooth as Franco ....
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Which text app are you referring to that us siow? I'm using the LeanKernel and not really noticed anything.
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Which text app are you referring to that us siow? I'm using the LeanKernel and not really noticed anything.
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Stock.... smooth as butter on Franco's. Lean even on home screen wash stuttering ...
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Hello,
I know it's stupid but i would like to overclock my OneX, what kernel should I choose ?
Thank you.
gatinho75 said:
Hello,
I know it's stupid but i would like to overclock my OneX, what kernel should I choose ?
Thank you.
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only faux kernel betas allow OC
big warning OC is bad for the HOX given the thermal envelope
you are risking both you battery and processor if you OC
i know you are used to OC from other devices but those had headroom, it is not the case this time, T3 is operating at its max thermal capabilities on the HOX
You right, thank you.
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Hello,
I know it's stupid but i would like to overclock my OneX, what kernel should I choose ?
Thank you.
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It's not stupid and I'm dying to overclock my HOX also. Unfortunately Faux's kernels won't let me overclock on my phone, I'm going to name my first kid for whoever is the first to let us overclock this beast .
As already said it gets already hot enough, overclocking will kill it.
And I used to love overclocking on my Xperia Arc, overclocked it 60%
But I think the HOX isn't made for it
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Flo95 said:
As already said it gets already hot enough, overclocking will kill it.
And I used to love overclocking on my Xperia Arc, overclocked it 60%
But I think the HOX isn't made for it
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the snapdragon 2 on the Arc had a lot of headroom
the chipset is rated @ 1.5ghz stable!
not the case with T3 its milking the very maximum of the 40nm process
in other words Nvidia is OCing its T3 out of box because their chips are designed to survive massive amount of heat (sadly it doesnt mean the battery or other components would survive)
it is already Overclocked lol
sometimes you have to listen to the "science" of it and surrender
feel sorry for the kid
Why you need to overclock this beast. It is already an monster. Don't let it destroy.
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It's fast enough already, leave the poor thing alone!
It's already running a fever!
I would actually like to underclock mine to keep heat down
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I understand why people want to overclock. Why does someone tune a brand new sports car after all it is fast enough to reach the limit in no time.
What gets me is people posting "just leave it" "its fast enough". It's not your device and I'm sure they know its fast enough. Please those kinds of post really arnt needed.
As for the OC in faux's early (001bX) kernels overclocking was available although it was found there are 3 variants of the Tegra 3 SoC. And Asian variant, European and Australian variants. Each reacted differently to OC.
Taken from faux kerenel thread. Everything about OC'ing is from page 10~ to 45~ for anyone interested.
faux123 said:
WHOA! You have ANOTHER variant for Tegra3 Wow... how many variants are there... I will try to give you an OC build for your variant...
So far there are 3 Tegra3 variants:
Variant 1: European -- So far not OC capable (boot loops)
Variant 2: Australian -- Status unknown.. just reported...
Variant 3: Asian (Non-Australian) -- OC capable @ 1.70 GHz (very stable)
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If you're wondering id love to have the capability of overclocking doesn't mean ill be overclocked 24/7
EDIT: @Kris underclocking is available on every kernel something like setcpu or sys tuner will be all you need. Although if your looking to keep heat down there's a thread on XDA about an app called corecontrol (not the one on play store) that can limit the Tegra 3 to 2 cores. Another thing too look at for reducing heat is undervolting. Sys tuner is also capable of this. Currently I believe faux's kernel is the only kernel with true UV control
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I understand why people want to overclock. Why does someone tune a brand new sports car after all it is fast enough to reach the limit in no time.
Taken from faux kerenel thread. Everything about OC'ing is from page 10~ to 45~ for anyone interested.
If you're wondering id love to have the capability of overclocking doesn't mean ill be overclocked 24/7l
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I use Faux's kernels and even though I have the Asian one that supposedly can be overclocked to 1,700, mine maxes out at 1,500 just like all of the other ones. Still the Faux kernel upped my quadrant speed from 4,700 to 5,000 and seems quicker so I still use it daily. I'm still waiting for the first kernel that can be overclocked .
Only the early kernels had OC it was removed to avoid bootloops in the euro and aus tegra3's the 003bx kernels don't have oc ability
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According to your experience, which of these two kernel is better for stand by and on screen time please?
Thanks
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I would say there's not much difference in battery life but I do find Franco is buggy with random reboots and slow reactions every now and then. Faux performance wise is spot on quick fairly good battery but downside is wen playing a game with decent graphics it heats up quite quick.
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I would say there's not much difference in battery life but I do find Franco is buggy with random reboots and slow reactions every now and then. Faux performance wise is spot on quick fairly good battery but downside is wen playing a game with decent graphics it heats up quite quick.
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Did you use the last release for the two kernels ? (franco r12 and Faux 4b8)
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Did you use the last release for the two kernels ? (franco r12 and Faux 4b8)
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I have..both are really good.. but I find the performance slightly better and less heating issues with Faux..
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franco hasnt updated his kernel for at least a month. used to really love his kernels, but seems as if hes losing interest in us unless some new stuff from htc comes out. On the other hand, faux is really giving us spetacular stuff with his kernels atm, try it.
Press THANKS if I helped.
simple answer mate..faux...franco has always been a sammy boy and by the looks of things his project looks dead and buried...wished i never got his app but anyway...faux for me and hopefully show-p can fix the issue with s2w and there you have two good kernels..not much of a variety really but faux all the way for me or stock
+1 for faux, especially for gaming with his GPU OC
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Faux kernel is very good.
i like it.
even if i'm testing now KERNEL ncx v030 i like faux kernel for the moment.
Faux have Good battery, smooth ...
Yea I used latest ones still got faux now
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Thanks all!
Faux is EPIC and rock stable
i dream of HTC including it as stock
How does faux compare to stock in battery/stability/performance, how much is it overclockable / undervoltable?
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How does faux compare to stock in battery/stability/performance, how much is it overclockable / undervoltable?
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no need for OC, perfomance is over 200% in games on Faux
all you need is to tweak the governor values, check the performance guide in my signature
we have GPU unlocked back to 520mhz
all the drivers update from the Nvidia linux 3.1 repo
all the drivers and fixes from HTC latest sources
Heat is reduced away from the touch screen
rock stable as stock!
UV is allowed -100mV is the maximum allowed on Tegra3
screen on times around 3 hours
in other words, THE kernel for the One X, also faux is always around he doesn't disappear
hamdir said:
no need for OC, perfomance is over 200% in games on Faux
all you need is to tweak the governor values, check the performance guide in my signature
we have GPU unlocked back to 520mhz
all the drivers update from the Nvidia linux 3.1 repo
all the drivers and fixes from HTC latest sources
Heat is reduced away from the touch screen
rock stable as stock!
UV is allowed -100mV is the maximum allowed on Tegra3
screen on times around 3 hours
in other words, THE kernel for the One X, also faux is always around he doesn't disappear
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I'm not really interested in gaming. Am I right in saying the screen on time on stock is about 4 hours so the battery is better on stock?
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I'm not really interested in gaming. Am I right in saying the screen on time on stock is about 4 hours so the battery is better on stock?
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well im not a good judge about battery because i keep over driving my One X
try it i think it will match it without gaming
sleep times are as incredible as stock 2.05
benchmark scores are as high as Tegra 33 on the Transformer infinity
founded
I'm using Franco R12 after faux 005b1 and I'm very impressed by the low consumption of this kernel. It's maybe a little less smooth but I'm not a big gamer so it's enough for me.
I'm waiting for the next faux kernel which always have good surprises like the 005b1...
which kernel is the best in terms gaming and browsing. basically my main concern is the battery life. i am using ARHD 8.!. i occasionally play games like stick cricket, temple run, fruit ninja etc. small games. few minutes of browsing. maybe 30mins. please suggest me a better kernel. will do if its none of faux or franco.
I find faux kernels to be very good at performance, but not excellent at battery life. Franco i have used only once, and found it a little buggy, but decent performance. In my opinion, stock kernel is the best one, especially for battery life (I'm not a hardcore gamer).
I've been using Faux 010m for some time now and I find to be very stable and offers great performance. I really don't notice battery life that much, but in general, my battery time is decent.
So yeah, +1 faux
I was wondering which governors and schedulers are the best for say performace or battery? I've done a little research on my own, but what do you prefer on your HTC One V? I've got aokp JB running on my cdma one v
Thanks!
I am a kernel dev, so naturally I know whats behind this code Lionheart is my favorite as it has aggressive scaling. No lag is also good, in some cases. On demand is great with battery though. I can get roughly 8 hours mid use with on demand. I hope this helps with deciding your governors.
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I am a kernel dev, so naturally I know whats behind this code Lionheart is my favorite as it has aggressive scaling. No lag is also good, in some cases. On demand is great with battery though. I can get roughly 8 hours mid use with on demand. I hope this helps with deciding your governors.
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Hey Simon! I'm actually running your 3.0.46 sick kernel JB with AOKP. It's wonderful!! haha so far, I've been running OC at 1708 with the performance governor and noop scheduler... it's lasted 11 hours and I'm at 73% battery, medium to light use with wifi on the whole time, but it's pretty snappy!
Is Lionheart pretty much a performance governor? You mentioned aggressive scaling, so it's snappy when it needs to be, but saves for battery when you're not using it?
BTW I didn't see a "no lag" governor... not sure what that is, so can you clarify? Also, is performance actually the best for snappiness, or will lionheart be even better? I used to use [email protected]$$v2 on my optimus v, but I'm just not sure what's best here?
Nolag is a new addition. I have been hard at work removing even more htc things Lionheart is a bit nicer on battery then performance, because it will scale to your minimum of its not needed. Perfoance stays at full no matter. Cpu spy will be a good tool to help with battery as well
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Oh kool! Well I don't see it in the latest kernel, so will it be in the next kernel? Thanks dude, you're awesome!
I'll fill everyone in on this thread on the work.
We are :
Patching to Linux 3.0.49
Removing htc additions that are hacks and ics specific.
Cleaning Bluetooth and header files up
Updating WiFi drivers
Updating GPU drivers
Overhauling the mmc drivers
We also have a driver dev that's working on camera and maybe eventually an lcdc driver which will allow us to use the experimental caf display needed for cyanogen mod10 and full project butter
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Wow that sounds ridiculously awesome!!