Son has a Evo Design 4g, it is rooted, there is a system update for it, so we snagged it but when it is installing the update it fails and the battery has to be removed.
Could this be caused by being rooted??
Yes. Never accept OTA update on a rooted phone.
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Ahhhhh, thank you...
A more forward-looking response might be "if you want the latest OTA, you will have to wait for a developer to prepare a rooted version of it that you can flash." (or if you want the latest version right now no matter what, you could just nuke the phone, unroot, start over etc, but I assume you rooted for a reason and want to keep root.)
Anyway, you might be able to go back to wherever you found root in the first place and see if any of those guys have incorporated the update into their latest ROMs.
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I've heard that you can't do an ota firmware update if you're rooted (is this true?) If so, am I still able to do maintenance releases? Sprint just sent out a new one. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/240535#240535
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If your rooted you never do a ota or yours losing root
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Never ever do an OTA, if you're rooted.
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That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure >.> thanks!
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So the general consensus is not to do a OTA update if rooted because you will lose root.
OK, what if I dont mind losing root.
I am rooted (ive used the unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo method).
And I have never installed any custom ROMs.
(i.e. I am running on Stock. Not rooted Stock ROM! Just rooted Stock. Im not even sure if there is a difference but just wanted to say it so its clear.)
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
newtonetienne said:
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
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That is based on the assumption that there will be a guaranteed method to regain root user access on the device. It could take hours, days, weeks, months, or even never.
I would recommend flashing the stock 3.70 update for root users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Now you still have the update, but you have retained root user access.
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update (i.e. actually through update and not flashed) my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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newtonetienne said:
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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Sorry novanosis85, i think my last post was a bit unclear.
I wanted to unroot, so I could apply the OTA update.
I guess I was trying to provide some feedback for others who may have similar questions like i did. Namely...
1. can I apply OTA when rooted? what i discovered was, "no" because the update process will discovery a custom recovery.
2. whats is required to be able to apply the OTA? s-on, and unroot procedure, then apply OTA. Update will indeed be applied but you will be unrooted.
Again, I hope this helps others.
dont dooo it! ull lose root
Wheres the guy with the zombie thread pic when you need him? I thought another ota was out
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I just went back to the normal rom and see i have system update? Is it fine to update when im rooted idk what it is im on android 2.2. Im new what is this system update? Thanks
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It won't work if you still have a custom recovery and/or deleted system apps. There's no real reason to update like that when you can just flash an updated ROM and call it a day. Besides, there haven't been any updates for a while now, and as soon as one hits rest assured that all our ROMs will get updated by their respective devs.
Ok thanks
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I heard from someone a while ago it might brick your phone, so I just turned off the automatic system updates. Just flash an updated rom and you're good.
first of all the update will download but, it wont install. If you really want the update you will have to either wait until there is a custom rom with it or unroot and install the update.
So my wifes phone is rooted with s off. When she receives her update will she be able to update and then I can just reinstall Su and CWM correct?
Thanks
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CWM will stop your phone from updating from the OTA.
It downloads fine, but when it tries to reboot to apply the update it looks for the stock recovery. You'll need to go back to stock recovery before you update.
Going back to stock requires that you use the RUU found here which will bring you back to stock recovery correct, but you will still retain S-OFF.
Running the RUU WILL keep S-OFF. But on dougpiston's site there is also a stock recovery you can flash in hboot if you don't want to run the RUU. I haven't used it though. So I can't really say anything about it.
That should work, S-Off/S-On settings are only changed by Unrevoked apps.
The RUU should restore your bootloader, OS, and recovery back to factory.
If that doesn't work, I use the zip files off of dougpiston.com to recover my phone.
Final question. If I apply the RUU will it wipe her phone or will she retain all her apps and such.
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Final question. If I apply the RUU will it wipe her phone or will she retain all her apps and such.
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The RUU will wipe EVERYTHING! It takes it back to factory settings. Out of the box. Minus S-OFF anyway.
I have a ROM Manager restore point with stock froyo, but rooted. If I restore to this, will I be able to get the OTA gingerbread update?
Why do you all want to receive the ota? Just wait until a devs gets it and makes a rooted flashable zip. Updating the ota will s-off and make you unrootable. Then your gonna be stuck with the crapware Verizon tries to force down our throats. The will be nothing special with the ota except the 50 mb of wasted space for crapware. Just hold on to your shorts and let the devs do their work!
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that won't do anything to recovery, you must flash the RUU, or something similar to get back to stock and for it to work.
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abtxpress said:
Why do you all want to receive the ota? Just wait until a devs gets it and makes a rooted flashable zip. Updating the ota will s-off and make you unrootable. Then your gonna be stuck with the crapware Verizon tries to force down our throats. The will be nothing special with the ota except the crapware. Just hold on to your shorts and let the devs do their work!
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benefits that i mainly want is the tv out (no real use for that anyway, since i'm not the kind of person who watches tv, let alone 80% of the time i moderatly use my phone.
I'm sure there will be a way to get the tv out being rooted.
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benefits that i mainly want is the tv out (no real use for that anyway, since i'm not the kind of person who watches tv, let alone 80% of the time i moderatly use my phone.
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Gingerbread update on stock rooted Incredible
Let me know guys when you have it figured out, I am willing to wait so I don't mess up this awesome phone ...
Thanks !!
The stock roms in the dev section are rooted... they have TV out
so today i got a msg asking if i would like to update my htc software. now i know having a rooted phone you never do an ota update, but that is for the firmware this is for htc hardware. so do i do it or not. thanx for any and all help.
How can an OTA update hardware?
sorry thats software not hardware
it says the following
a system update is available
would i like to download the following system update?
a system upgrade for 2.3 (gingerbread) is available that provides minor enhancements. please download and install the following update. system upgrade 4.53.651.1 (17.01 MB)
-fota update
like i said pretty sure you dont download firmware updates if your rooted how about this
That is a firmware update.
So no, don't accept it.
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when i went to settings/system updates and checked for a firmware update it said firmware is up to date then i checked htc software update theres one available whats the differance between the two
It seems that the updates to the OS come from HTC.
If you were to accept, it would remove root access and custom recovery. It will not make your phone S-ON.
also my phone already is 2.3.3
also whats the diferance between htc software and firmware
Actually, when the first 2.3 updates rolled out, people who didn't unroot first, got the update and kept root.
so what do i do i still dont know the difference between the two kinds of updates
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Are you on the stock rom?
It's still an OTA update regardless of what it's officially called, which is what you're generally advised against. You can accept the update if you're on the stock rom, but you may have to reflash your recovery and possibly flash the Superuser zip.
If you're not on the stock rom, don't accept it. If you want the update, you can flash the rooted version of the latest update through recovery.
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very cool everyone thanx for the info im just rooted no custom roms or anything yet still trying to figure out wich is rite for me so to be safe im just gonna ignore it im kind of wondering what kind of enhancments it has though
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system upgrade 4.53.651.1 Fixes:
Contact transfer over Bluetooth: issues with some car kits
Picasa issue where some images are cut off.
Group contacts not in alphabetical order
Error for Out of memory – Unable to send SMS
Also You can accept this update without losing your s-off, after you update just reflash your custom recovery of choice and superuser apk and you are rooted once again
thanx twiz for the info and the step by step coming from web os im still quite the noob on this platform but learning fast from folks like you
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My SGS2 got a software update from t-mobile, and when i try to install it, it goes to the clock work recovery mod. How do i update my phone? Thanks for the help!
I believe you need stock recovery to do the OTA update. If you're rooted, it's probably just better to grab one of the updated roms from the development forum and flash it. That's what I did instead of going through the hassle of un-rooting and updating.
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My SGS2 got a software update from t-mobile, and when i try to install it, it goes to the clock work recovery mod. How do i update my phone? Thanks for the help!
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Judging by the fact that you have CWM, I'm assuming you have a custom rom. If that's the case, you can prevent the update notices by using ANY root file explorer ( I use ES as its free on the market) and backup/delete both /system/app/ wssysync apk's. The nagging update will be gone ;-)
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