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Infuriating SMS bug.

My Tilt 2 and my girlfriend's Tilt 2 suffer from the same issue. About 25% of the time when we open a text message, our phones do not scroll down to the most recent message nor give us a cursor so we can start typing a reply.
You have to manually scroll down to the typing area and manually click in the blank space, and even then, when you start typing and get to the end of a line, instead of automatically dropping down to the next line, the phone inexplicably scrolls back up to an older message. You then have to scroll back down and click in the typing area where your message was cut off to resume typing, but each time you get to the end of a line, it scrolls back up again. Using the task manager to close the sms application fixes the problem, but it reoccurs about one out of every four text messages we receive. I have applied both of the hotfixes, the sms patch and the caller id patch.
It's so much of an annoyance, she, being a bigger texter than I, hates the phone. If anyone else has had this issue, do any of the extant cooked roms fix the issue? We are both using the stock At&T Rom minus the crud.

sounds like it could be a case of the different programs interfering with each other. install one by one and see if that makes a difference, you might come to realize something. If you want to just uninstall those programs you should use an advanced uninstaller like TMS or SK Tools to make sure you change the registry settings.
I'd really suggest grabbing a visual kitchen and making your own custom ROM. It is really simple and in my case has been the most stable and quickest ROM i've used to date.

thats just the Windows Mobile messaging... its horrible, they should make a new one lol, Like Handcent SMS for android, that is like THE best texting app. but about the issue, it sounds like you just need to purge your SMS, I do it once a week,but I also do a PIM backup before so, just incase

I do.
I purge it every day. I delete everything, and then I empty out the deleted messages if that's what you mean. It pisses me off. Her phone has virtually nothing on it. It's completely stock. I know there isn't anything interfering with it.

same problem here.

No solution here, but I can more further identify the problem....
Does this seem accurate?
When I select a text message from the message inbox, it displays the message just like a normal reply window with the keyboard at the bottom, but then takes a second or so and then the keyboard hides and the message is displayed full screen and the reply area with the cursor loses focus. Then I have to click in the reply box at the bottom at which point the keyboard has to pop up again and resize the message. The action is as if I have touched the message itself which would of course expand the message and minimize the keyboard.
I was originally thinking it is a left-over phantom touch from the previous screen but that has been ruled out. Maybe this is a timing issue in the registry? It doesn't seem like it. It happens with every new message that you want to reply to. I'm at a total loss, but very annoyed by this. The email section works fine. I see a list of messages, I select one, if I choose to reply, the message pops up and the cursor appears inline right where I should type and the keyboard pops up at the same time. Once I have replied to a message, even if I reboot the phone, if I go back to a message I have replied to the keyboard is already up with the cursor focused in the reply box. I don't know why it doesn't do this when a new message comes in. Maybe it thinks you need more space to read the message, but this is silly considering text messages are usually very short….ie Short Messaging Service…
I saw someone else post that this is just sucky windows messaging. Well, it didn't do this on my Treo 750 with WM6.1. But there I had a regular keyboard, not a software keyboard on a touch screen.
So my guess is that something in the messaging system may be looking for the hardware keyboard and assuming we have it open and displaying the messages full screen.
So what I think we really need to ask is if there is a way to force the keyboard to just be open and put the cursor focus in the reply box when I open a new text message by default?
Alternatively, is there a messaging replacement that eliminates this problem?

Push Notifications Not In Sync with Apps

This might just be a feature request for the future of WP7, but I was wondering if there is a current solution. I searched and couldn't find info about this so sorry if it's already been asked.
I know multi-tasking is not allowed on WP7, at least for now, but enabling Push Notifications within an App doesn't actually push the item (SMS, email, etc) to the App at the time of the notification. It still has to download the item when you go to check the App. Is there any way to make an App download an item at the same time that the push notification is received?
To clarify, an example is with GoVoice receiving an SMS. You get an on-screen notification that there is a new message. It has obviously already downloaded the message because it shows you the text of the message in the notification on-screen. When you go into GoVoice, the new item is not there and you still have to wait for the program to download the message... but hasn't the phone already downloaded the message? Isn't it duplicating its own efforts? Does someone have a solution to this?

i noticed similar kind of push notification issue. When i go to email and sync, it gets say 3 mails.. i read and delete and come to main screen and see that live tile shows 3. now again i go into the mail and come to home.. then it is cleared. kind of doesn't make sense. same case with marketplace also.

No, the push notification is a message from the Home server letting you know there is information... It's separate from the actual app downloading the information... If it were that easy, every app would have push/toast notifications... You're required to have a server which will handle these notifications for you..
raman_mogal said:
i noticed similar kind of push notification issue. When i go to email and sync, it gets say 3 mails.. i read and delete and come to main screen and see that live tile shows 3. now again i go into the mail and come to home.. then it is cleared. kind of doesn't make sense. same case with marketplace also.
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I've noticed this happens when you hit the Home button to get away from the app rather than using the back button, so the OS doesn't immediately sense a "closing" of the app, but it should auto update the tile within a few minutes...

But could a developer pull the message directly from the WP7 notification somehow rather than completely re-downloading it since WP7 already downloaded the message once?

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But could a developer pull the message directly from the WP7 notification somehow rather than completely re-downloading it since WP7 already downloaded the message once?
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In short, no. The slightly longer answer is that the developer can do this if the app in question is already running - but if that were the case you wouldn't receive a live tile notification so...
I'm not sure I understand the problem though - in your example, downloading the new text message should take next to no time at all so there should be little to no delay when opening the app (if the developer has done it right of course).

FiyaFleye said:
I've noticed this happens when you hit the Home button to get away from the app rather than using the back button, so the OS doesn't immediately sense a "closing" of the app, but it should auto update the tile within a few minutes...
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Thanks for the reply. i will try back button this time.

raman_mogal said:
Thanks for the reply. i will try back button this time.
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Not a problem, I get frustrated going back through countless menus so I constantly use the Home button, but the live tile updates fairly quickly for me

emigrating said:
I'm not sure I understand the problem though - in your example, downloading the new text message should take next to no time at all so there should be little to no delay when opening the app (if the developer has done it right of course).
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The problem is that my 3G connection is very unreliable. It's almost always on Edge at home and at work so downloading messages takes a long time.

Some CM7 and GO DEV TEAM issues

Have been doing a bit more customising and almost set up properly but still a few hanging issues:
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Sometimes when I unlock the phone, the brightness is set differently even though the ambience of where I am is the same, sometimes it could be dim and others bright and it doesn't really change.
Not fixed - CM7 issue
The Email app doesn't appear to be the best. It's very dark, is there any brighter theme available or maybe suggestion of another app for pop3 mail?
Not really an issue - APP Issue
I'm using GO SMS and unfortunately I'm still having an issue sending group messages, I've the option to seperate each message to each person into its own thread, sent a small group text, only to maybe 10 people yesterday and it split it into 4 separate threads, only 4 separate contacts who I sent it to as opposed to the 10, so where did the other 6 go? I couldn't check delivery status or anything.
Not Fixed -Possible App Issue, possible CM7 issue
Also with GO Dialer EX, I assume it's because I've over 1,900 contacts, but it freezes quite a lot if I'm going through my contacts/groups/adding new etc. Also you can't see the individual times of consecutive missed calls from one contact and if you have a missed call notification in the notification bar, clicking the notification used to clear the notification and bring you to the missed call screen, now it just brings you to the missed call screen but you have to go back to the notification menu to "clear" the notification, again, this didn't happen in sense and clicking to see the missed calls also cleared the notification. I also miss being able to just open up the dialer, press call on a blank field and it would call the last dialled, also with the way the call log is, I don't like that it groups the contacts together, I much prefer being able to see a log based on time only. Also by grouping the contacts together, you can't just click on a recent called contact and it will go to phone them immediately as you could with sense.
Not Fixed: App Issue, plus now discovered, if you have 2 missed calls, clear the notification and get 1 more missed call, the notification will come up again but say 3 missed calls
I miss the fact with Sense, you just clicked the clock and you got to your stopwatch/countdown timer/alarm straight away. Is there any way to get this back? Clicking the clock now brings me to a screen that isn't much use.
Fixed: App Issue - Got a separate stopwatch/countdown timer app and use stock alarm and using Go Weather widget
The included Calendar app widget has a few annoyances, you can't click a number to go straight to dialpad with from within an event, only 1 event is displayed in the widget and to go into details of that event you've to click into open the calendar first and then into the event. Again, the sense calendar app was better and you could also scroll through the events from the widget itself.
Fixed - Assigned swipe up and swipe down action to open calendar from home screen, this makes it just as quick as before to open the calendar app and gets right into the app, also I can now just click numbers and it opens the dialer, not sure what the issue was before but it's working grand now
Twitter widget is also worse than it was in sense, it only shows one tweet at a time as opposed to sense which you could again scroll down which is much handier if you're looking for say updates from AA Road Watch while stuck in traffic and you can just keep your eyes open for the AA logo on a scroll rather than clicking and clicking and clicking to see if they have any updates.
Not really an issue, I don't even use twitter that much
Calculator is too basic compared to sense one too
Fixed - Real calc
Another thing is I used to like to have "camcorder" shortcut instead of "camera" (I just feel it's better to have instant access to record something rather than photo it). You could easily then switch to camera if you want to photo something, there was no camcorder shortcut so I downloaded one, but it opens only the camcorder alone, as opposed to the same thing that you got when clicking the camera, in which you could easy switch between camera and camcorder. Any way to start that same thing, but just in camcorder mode by a shortcut?
Not really an issue, added camera and camcorder shortcut to home screens
Can someone also tell me if the CM7 "File manager" does the same as Astro? I installed Astro before realising there was a file manager there, guess there's no need for both so can I uninstall astro again? I'm only a very basic user that would be copying/pasting and installing apps via astro, so if this can all be done via file manager, I'll just get rid of Astro
Not really an issue, seems astro is better though, you can select multi select files in a folder to edit.move etc and just looks to be more options in general.
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A few more issues then using Go Dev Team apps:
on froyo, I had handscent and loved the way if I got a text, the led would be a permanent blue until I read it. I checked this option in go sms too but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I tried flash on at 300ms and then off at 0, I also tried at 300/300 and it didn't seem to flash at all.
Have also noticed a bug in go sms where a different contact name could appear in someone elses text, which happened before with Handscent on froyo, was hoping it would have been fixed. I wonder is it go, or a bug with android itself that's causing this.
Hoping I can sort the above not fixed issues so any advice would be appreciated, the LED notification thing is a strange one, just doesn't seem to work at all for go sms but it may be something conflicting with the CM7 settings or stock settings? Any feedback appreciated!

cormie said:
Have been doing a bit more customising and almost set up properly but still a few hanging issues:
A few more issues then using Go Dev Team apps:
on froyo, I had handscent and loved the way if I got a text, the led would be a permanent blue until I read it. I checked this option in go sms too but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I tried flash on at 300ms and then off at 0, I also tried at 300/300 and it didn't seem to flash at all.
Have also noticed a bug in go sms where a different contact name could appear in someone elses text, which happened before with Handscent on froyo, was hoping it would have been fixed. I wonder is it go, or a bug with android itself that's causing this.
Hoping I can sort the above not fixed issues so any advice would be appreciated, the LED notification thing is a strange one, just doesn't seem to work at all for go sms but it may be something conflicting with the CM7 settings or stock settings? Any feedback appreciated!
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Note & Thanks

Not sure what your reply means, are you on the dev team for go/cm7 or something? If so, have plenty of suggestions and bugs to report

Software Questions

Hoping people can answer as this phone comes out in the coming weeks.
I remember the M9 not having a few common Android features and am wondering if the 10 has these:
- Lockscreen: when a text message is received, are you able to swipe up on it to reply?
- When receiving a text while in an app, can you reply by swiping down? Or in an overlay (instead of having to open the app to reply)
- Does the screen turn on when receiving a notification?
Thanks

danv28 said:
Hoping people can answer as this phone comes out in the coming weeks.
I remember the M9 not having a few common Android features and am wondering if the 10 has these:
- Lockscreen: when a text message is received, are you able to swipe up on it to reply?
- When receiving a text while in an app, can you reply by swiping down? Or in an overlay (instead of having to open the app to reply)
- Does the screen turn on when receiving a notification?
Thanks
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I don't allow text messages on the lockscreen, so I can't answer your first two questions. The answer to your third question is "no."

how to fix problem when swipe up notification bar??
When I pull down the notification bar it seems working properly (two-face procedure) but when I swipe up to make it disappear, it comes down again. More specifically, the first time I swipe up it goes up to the point it should be, but on the second scroll it appears again, like when I pull it down. So, I am able to see again the entire panel. To remove it I have to do the whole process very slowly and it is really annoying.

Duplicate Text Notifications on Quick Reply

I am having an issue/annoyance with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9 and I hope you all are able to help. My device is currently setup so that when I get a text I receive the notification in the bar, I am then able to pull the notification bar down to read a portion or all of the text and am given the option to reply (a short message) directly through this feature. When I do this and click the send arrow and very quickly thereafter I receive another notification as if I had gotten a new or different text when in fact, when I slide the notification bar down, it is just just my own sent text being shown to me. Hopefully this makes sense to some of you. It is really annoying to me. I always thought that in the past if you did a quick reply the notifications would auto go-away unless you actually recieve a new/different text message.
Any insight?
Thanks

Bro, it's not an issue, it's actually helpful in a lot of ways.
For example if I had to reply to an important message without being "online" on whatsapp, I can send many messages from just the notification panel, so I can see the whole conversation from there without opening the app. I think it's a very handy feature.
Simply when you reply to a conversation and you don't need to utilize this feature, just swipe the notification to the left/right and you won't see a notification unless you recieve a new message.

Trowology said:
I am having an issue/annoyance with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9 and I hope you all are able to help. My device is currently setup so that when I get a text I receive the notification in the bar, I am then able to pull the notification bar down to read a portion or all of the text and am given the option to reply (a short message) directly through this feature. When I do this and click the send arrow and very quickly thereafter I receive another notification as if I had gotten a new or different text when in fact, when I slide the notification bar down, it is just just my own sent text being shown to me. Hopefully this makes sense to some of you. It is really annoying to me. I always thought that in the past if you did a quick reply the notifications would auto go-away unless you actually recieve a new/different text message.
Any insight?
Thanks
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So swipe away the notification once you have sent your message, happens here too if I leave the notification there after replying

I don't see the benefit
I don't use WhatsApp, but regardless I don't need my notification light to keep flashing as a result of me replying to a text via quick reply feature. Like I said, it's just an annoyance for me that I don't recall dealing with on any of my galaxy devices and I was merely trying to see if there was a way to toggle this "feature."
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Bro, it's not an issue, it's actually helpful in a lot of ways.
For example if I had to reply to an important message without being "online" on whatsapp, I can send many messages from just the notification panel, so I can see the whole conversation from there without opening the app. I think it's a very handy feature.
Simply when you reply to a conversation and you don't need to utilize this feature, just swipe the notification to the left/right and you won't see a notification unless you recieve a new message.
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Trowology said:
I don't use WhatsApp, but regardless I don't need my notification light to keep flashing as a result of me replying to a text via quick reply feature. Like I said, it's just an annoyance for me that I don't recall dealing with on any of my galaxy devices and I was merely trying to see if there was a way to toggle this "feature."
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Why can't you swipe the notification away? Two people have already told you that will stop it

I CAN, and DO
*Detection* said:
Why can't you swipe the notification away? Two people have already told you that will stop it
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Yes, I can read and that's what I already do. The whole purpose of the thread was to see if there was an option to toggle this useless feature off. I would have already read and/or replied to the specific text, thus not needing to have to REacknowldge or "swipe" the notice away for a second time...leaving my light flashing until I go to it 2 times.

Trowology said:
Yes, I can read and that's what I already do. The whole purpose of the thread was to see if there was an option to toggle this useless feature off. I would have already read and/or replied to the specific text, thus not needing to have to REacknowldge or "swipe" the notice away for a second time...leaving my light flashing until I go to it 2 times.
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You should explain in your first post what you have and have not done so people know before replying....
No, no toggle other than disabling notification LED altogether either system wide or for that app
Phone is obviously thinking your reply is a new message, which in a way it is, although already reading it should inform it that you have read it and it is not new, but as it does not, keep swiping and report to Samsung

Trowology said:
Yes, I can read and that's what I already do. The whole purpose of the thread was to see if there was an option to toggle this useless feature off. I would have already read and/or replied to the specific text, thus not needing to have to REacknowldge or "swipe" the notice away for a second time...leaving my light flashing until I go to it 2 times.
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this might actually be a sprint issue. the app that you use to do your quick replies, do you know what its called? my S9 doesnt have a feature like that on it and its running the may security patch update, so its not on an old firmware and just missing a new feature.
glitchy stuff like what youre experiencing can be often solved with a factory reset

youdoofus said:
this might actually be a sprint issue. the app that you use to do your quick replies, do you know what its called? my S9 doesnt have a feature like that on it and its running the may security patch update, so its not on an old firmware and just missing a new feature.
glitchy stuff like what youre experiencing can be often solved with a factory reset
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It's not an app, it's literally the notification pulldown which you can reply from, when you receive a message and pull down the notification to read it, under the message is a reply button, press that and it opens a little reply text box on the notification dropdown, when you press send and turn off the screen it flashes the LED to say there is an unread notification which is actually your reply still sitting in the notification dropdown, only way to stop it is to swipe away
Got it here with unbranded G960F S9 in the UK on o2

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It's not an app, it's literally the notification pulldown which you can reply from, when you receive a message and pull down the notification to read it, under the message is a reply button, press that and it opens a little reply text box on the notification dropdown, when you press send and turn off the screen it flashes the LED to say there is an unread notification which is actually your reply still sitting in the notification dropdown, only way to stop it is to swipe away
Got it here with unbranded G960F S9 in the UK on o2
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ok, i just tested that out, and i was able to use the quick reply feature and didnt get a residual notif. rec'd test, went to pulldown, hit the little enter key button which revealed a reply field taht wasnt part of my default text app, typed a reply, sent it, locked screen, no flashing light, no further notif. seems like mine is working like its supposed to
edit: i also verified that the intended recipients got my replies. no notifs for my outbound messages on my device

youdoofus said:
ok, i just tested that out, and i was able to use the quick reply feature and didnt get a residual notif. rec'd test, went to pulldown, hit the little enter key button which revealed a reply field taht wasnt part of my default text app, typed a reply, sent it, locked screen, no flashing light, no further notif. seems like mine is working like its supposed to
edit: i also verified that the intended recipients got my replies. no notifs for my outbound messages on my device
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You don't have Samsung Messages app set as your default messaging app?
Maybe why

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You don't have Samsung Messages app set as your default messaging app?
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good point, i forgot to mention that i have chomp as my default. Maybe that will be the solution for the OP

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You have hit the nail on the head! This exactly what I am referring to. No app, just default texting app. Exactly as you described.
SM-G960U on Sprint Network for me.
Most up to date software I believe, at least that's what my device tells me.
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It's not an app, it's literally the notification pulldown which you can reply from, when you receive a message and pull down the notification to read it, under the message is a reply button, press that and it opens a little reply text box on the notification dropdown, when you press send and turn off the screen it flashes the LED to say there is an unread notification which is actually your reply still sitting in the notification dropdown, only way to stop it is to swipe away
Got it here with unbranded G960F S9 in the UK on o2
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