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Help! is my Desire Bricked?

The bottom of my desire got dipped in water. the part where the buttons are. now when I hit the power button it goes straight into hboot. I had ginger sense rom installed on it and s-off. when it's in hboot none of the buttons work, it's as if the volume down button is always pressed in and no other buttons will register, however the menu item "fastboot" is highlighted but pressing the power button does nothing. when I plug it into the computer in this state it does detect usb and enters the hboot usb mode. What are my options from this point? can I put an update on the SD card and reflash stock. I tried an RUU in hboot usb mode but it failed and said it could not connect to phone. as well adb could not connect. I guess that it needs to be in fastboot mode. none of the water indicators that I can see are red (battery and on phone), I hear there is one on the inside though, so not sure about that one. I bought the phone in september 2010, so it's still under warranty but the indicator might be wet on the inside and the hboot menu says s-off right on it. should I still try to send it back for repair? is there a way for me to put it back to s-onn so it looks like it;s not hacked and hopefully the indicators are all white and they'll fix it. or is that too much of a long shot. and last option is I have the disassembly and reassembly videos. should I try to take it all apart and check for corrosion around the button connectors and clean it with alcohol? please help if you know what to do? I'm kinda freaking out without my phone. Thanks guys.
EDIT: solved, for info go to last post. If your in this situation you might want to read the whole thread.

you can boot into fastboot by holding "back" and "power", once you're in there try flashing a new ROM, or drying your phone without the battery in and the back case open.

I've tried that when I hold down the back button and power it still goes into regular hboot. I can't get it to go into fastboot. One other thing I tried changing the hboot version with a pb99.zip directly on the sd card and it failed saying incompadible id or something like that. I tried the stock image and the downgrade and both failed. any ideas? Also, I have another working desire running insertcoin, in case that helps.

hmm.. leave the phone powered off and take the battery out, and open the back cover, and leave it somewhere where it can dry (facing screen down) for a day or so, then try again. Otherwise its a bump.

unfortanetly I've had it in a bag of rice for 3 days now. so there is nothing I can do from the hboot menu? what is it's purpose then? surely some smarter than I knows what to do? should I take it apart or send it in for warranty? or can I flash something to it?

Have you tried unrooting with the PB99IMG.zip method? done by extracting rom.zip from the right RUU and renaming it to PB99IMG.zip, putting it in the root of your sd-card, and flashing it that way.

flashing now, thanks for the idea. looks to be working. I'll let you know.
update: it had a progress bar on the upper right that filled up then went away now I'm left with an hboot screen with all the usual stuff on the top but where the 4 options usually are there is just one and it says hboot below that in green it says
parsing...[sd zip]
[1] bootloader[2] radio_v2
[3] radio_cust
[4] boot
[5] recovery
[6] system
[7] userdata
[8] splash1
[9] splash2
and it's been on this screen for 10 minutes now. should I wait or am I susposed to choose an option? if I am susposed to choose an option I can't because the volume buttons still don't work or any buttons for that matter.

I'd still give it time to dry I had to put my wildfire on radiator for a week n turned it on and u would have never known it had water damage
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what do you think about a hairdryer and rice combo for a few days?

Yea it might work but I had it on radiator even had battery on there lol and heating is on a fair bit in our house n it worked fine I never used rice but heard loads of people using it u can only try I would give it bout 3 days on radiator aswell as hairdryer it might do the job if not send it BK
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thanks for your help man, unfortunately it's the summer here and muggy as hell, so heat isn't turned on in the house. so airtight container with rice and hairdryer every day might do. I'm going to take it apart first and clean all the leads with isopropol alcohol. Also I know I cannot spell.

I don't know how to spell lol but yea I'd. Blast the s**t out of it with dryer for a longish amount of time hope it works keep us updated with it
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I've tried rubbing alcohol and i got it into fast boot and it recognized usb, the buttons worked and I could select items with the volume rockers. eve could switch between hboot and fastboot. 20 min later I rebooted and all was lost. it's now back to just booting into hboot and no buttons are working. I don't know if I didn't clean it well enough or there was still some alcohol left inside the phone and maybe it moved around and shorted again but i left it for a day and tried it again and still nothing. took it apart again and dunked each piece in alcohol that is below the screen and the volume keys. it's sitting in rice now. I'll let you know tomorrow how it goes. cross your fingers.
UPDATE: Success!!! ok so for those of you who were stuck like me I hope this helps you out. I took the phone completely apart and dunked each piece in 95% alcohol, I wouldn't go below 90 if I were you. because I am impatient I only let it sit in rice for about 4 hours I then decided to get out the vacuum as suggested in a youtube video I seen. Don't be stupid like me, put an old pair of the wife's panty hose or go get a pair, you might lookd odd buying these but it will save you grief as I sucked up my power button and I had to cut the bag open and look for it, I found it in case you were wondering. I used the vacuum for about 30 minutes on all openings where alcohol could have got in. Then I put it all back together and powered the sucker up. I tried fastboot to be safe at first and it worked and the buttons worked. excellent!!! then I tried to boot normal and it booted right up into insertcoin nightly 51. double excellent!!! one small problem there seems to be some liquid inside the screen causing a weird looking picture. it all looks normal and colours are great but you can just tell there is liquid in there. so i took it all apart down to the screen and I used the vacuum again. put it all back together AGAIN and then turned it on normally. still there but it has shifted and looks like it improved. so back into the rice bag and I left the bag open in front of a dehumidifier fan. I'll probably test at 12 hour intervals and let you know how it goes, but I am super excited that I at least have my phone back. I can live with a less than perfect screen for a bit. I hope this might help someone else. don't give up on your phone! some videos I seen recommend using alcohol for an hour then brushing the pcb with a new toothbrush. this was going to be my next step. they also say to try and concentrate the brushing on areas that may be blue as that is the corrosion area, it just happens that when I dipped my phone pieces into the alcohol i did notice some blue runoff, so there may be some truth to that, or maybe it was just some dye on a piece, who knows. good luck to anyone reading this who is in this situation. I know how you feel!

Reading through my old posts, found this one. Desire is still going strong. Still have screen artifacts but it's very minor. I even have ICS running on it. It does trend to get a bit warmer than my wife's desire but it does not cause problems.
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[Q] power button not working/always on

hi guys i have a real bad problem...woke up this morning and my desire wouldnt wake up when pressing the power button...screen turned on after i put the charger in but when the auto screen off turns the screen off i cant wake again until i attach the charger.also with a battery pull the phone turns off but then when i put the battery back in the phone automatically boots without touching the power button
thanks

bailz2506 said:
hi guys i have a real bad problem...woke up this morning and my desire wouldnt wake up when pressing the power button...screen turned on after i put the charger in but when the auto screen off turns the screen off i cant wake again until i attach the charger.also with a battery pull the phone turns off but then when i put the battery back in the phone automatically boots without touching the power button
thanks
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My money is on a hardware failure. Do you have a stock ROM ?

hey yea i went and unrooted and reinstalled my carriers stock ruu....still same problem.looks like taking it back to the shop for them to fix

Hey actually exactly one week ago my Desire started the same exact thing, and I could not find help anywhere. Best info I can find is that it might be moisture, but at least for me I don't think that is the case.
I ended up taking the whole phone apart (been taking stuff apart all my life, but i was still nervous) to clean it out since I've had dust in the screen for a while... I think I cleaned it out pretty well, but did not take the plastic tape off the button. This did not immediately help, but after playing with it for a while it now works most of the time, but is quite sensitive usually.. the button "presses" before it mechanically "clicks".
Anyway, If you were to become desperate enough to try this, I would recommend pulling that black plastic tape off the button when cleaning, then stick it back on. Good luck
I've been lusting after the Sensation anyway

yea im not into pulling stuff apart that i got no idea about...took it back still under warranty n its getting sent in for repair...now stuck with a piece of **** samsung omina icon....windows phone sucks the big one very hard...ill be going back and asking for at least an android as a loaner while its in for repair

ohh well that's good that it's still under warranty. I was actually using the camera at a beach during hurricane Irene and that night the power button went berserk.. continuously turning the screen on and off... before eventually just staying "pressed" all the time again. So maybe the moisture theory isn't all that far fetched in my case (I was at a beach the first time it happened, but never went near the water)
Currently trying to get a broken Desire on ebay to harvest for parts :/

Moisture - Htc Desire Power Button.
Hello,
I've met with that problem.
I've unscrewed the device, I've remove the black tape, and I've used a cotton swab to clear it.
But the problem was solved, but later withing the 24hrs, It's back to auto on/off without pressing the button.
I would like to know, Should I remove the yellow transparent tape on the button for cleaning?
Thanks.

Soft-Bricked? Maybe?

Hi all,
I'm having trouble with my Telus Samsung Galaxy S2x. I was coming home from work on Wednesday and was listening to music at the time. I turned on my phone, went to text messages, the phone makes a really harsh and nasty noise (the music cutting out) and the phone shuts off. I instantly took out the battery and turned the phone back on again. It got to the boot screen and then rebooted itself and started to vibrate in 2 second intervals on a black screen.
I did some research and it seems like it could be a power button issue? The phone thinks you're turning it off and on again in an infinite loop. At first, I thought it was a battery problem (it still can be without testing a new battery) but I took out the battery and tried turning it on with just the power from the wall, and the same thing happened again. I have however, been able to get into Recovery/Download mode for about 2-3 seconds before it reboots and vibrates. There has also been times where I got as far as into the OS on the lock screen before it rebooted. For the most part it's usually gives up on the boot screen. I should probably note that I'm not a Telus customer, I bought the phone through a friend that worked there and used it on Wind.
My phone is rooted and I have Slimbean 3.0 installed on it - if that helps at all. I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem as I do and what they did to fix it. I'm not too too concerned about the phone (in terms of getting it refurbished). It's the data on the phone that I need to recover if getting it refurbished is my last option. That being said, I am running out of options and any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks guys!

It is indeed a sticky power button issue. You can get it replaced or u can try to unstick it urself. Don't know where or how much. Try a needle to clean around the outside of the button. Try to rub alcohol to dissolve residue. Try to leave the phone off and water protected while in the freezer for 20-30 minutes and hope for shrinkage that'll loosen the power button. Weird but I heard it worked for someone.
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Just had the same problem a couple days ago. Fixed it myself You can try everything what he ^ said. Good tips! Just make sure you know what you're doing before you open it. (I didn't though, just watched a youtube video of screenr eplacement in 270p and started )
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[Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged

Hi, I have looked everywhere to try and get this problem fixed, but haven't found anything to help.
I have a HTC One X which is absolutely stock. I got it on contract last September and have never rooted it/played with it/etc (I wouldn't know what I was doing!). My problem is that it is on a boot loop and I cannot get it to to get beyond the first HTC splash screen. If I hold down the volume down button to get to the boot menu then it runs for around 1.5-2 seconds then reboots again. The details below show where it gets to.
I contacted my insurance company and sent it in and they have told me that the phone has been water damaged and they will not fix it. I am covered for water damage, but as I didn't declare in my insurance form that this was the cause for the failure they will not accept responsibility! The thing is that while I accept that I have used my phone in the rain on a number of times (I'm a keen walker despite the weather), I have never immersed it in water. I can only assume that the indicators have come up because I've used the phone while out walking in the rain. Despite what I say they will not fix the phone and HTC don't want to know because of the indicators, just referring me to my insurer as the water indicators are red. I am obviously hacked off, but surely if the screen isn't a problem and it's booting this far then surely I can get the phone to work?
The display is as follows:
*** LOCKED ***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.39.0000
CPLD-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5.1204.162.29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode : disabled
HW Secure Boot: enabled
MODEM PATH : OFF
Dec 17 2012,13:59:37
Battery level is too low to flash
HBOOT
SD Checking...
Failed to open usb master mode
loading PJ461MG.zip image..
Failed to open usb master mode
When I try to charge the phone it just enters a boot loop, lasts about 4/5 seconds then reboots, so I can't see how to get it to do anything else. This means that I cannot flash it/link it to my pc/etc.
Can anybody help me get the phone back up and running so I don't use it as a frisbee?! I am still under contract until September 2014 and would hate to think that I've got to pay for a phone I can't even use!

You can charge it when it boot loops - see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738274
That will allow you to charge it to 100%, even though it cant boot.
Next, did you expose it to water, or is the insurance company BS'ing? What happend when the bootlooping started? Any updates (On The Air) that caused it, or anything?
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to get to the boot menu then it runs for around 1.5-2 seconds then reboots again
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Does it reboot by ITSELF, when in the bootloader menu??
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TwinAdk

TwinAdk said:
You can charge it when it boot loops - see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738274
That will allow you to charge it to 100%, even though it cant boot.
Next, did you expose it to water, or is the insurance company BS'ing? What happend when the bootlooping started? Any updates (On The Air) that caused it, or anything?
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Does it reboot by ITSELF, when in the bootloader menu??
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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Thank you for the quick reply.
The phone is not holding any charge at all. I left it to charge for 6 hours yesterday to try and get somewhere with it, but the whole time it was on charge it was rebooting itself and when I unplugged the charger then it booted twice more and gave up as the battery was flat. I assume it was using all of the power coming in to reboot as it went.
I can remember about a month ago that I did have my phone in my hand and I was texting through quite severe rain, so yes, I assume it must have been then that the indicator marks came up. It has worked fine since until this episode last week and it just seemed to die on it's own. I was sending a text at the time, the phone froze so I tried to reset it (power and volume up) and it just boot looped after that.
I'm not aware of any updates in the last week or so; and the phone is rebooting by itself. Even if I leave it for 24 hours then moments after plugging in the chager it tries to boot, lasts a few seconds til the HTC logo screen, then stops and reboots.
I cannot get the phone to link to my PC. As soon as my computer begins to recognise it then the phone reboots and it disconnects from the computer. This rules out the possibility of adding in the .rar file.

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chouman said:
It has worked fine since until this episode last week and it just seemed to die on it's own.
Even if I leave it for 24 hours then moments after plugging in the chager it tries to boot, lasts a few seconds til the HTC logo screen, then stops and reboots.
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Ok, what is 'this episode last week'? The sudden freeze or? And when you connect the charger, does it turn on by itself?
While in the bootloader menu, do you have time to ask the phone to turn off? That way it can charge while off. But if it does not hold battery AT ALL, I think it's a new phone....
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TwinAdk
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Last week was when the phone froze.
I cannot get the phone to shut down, it doesn't give me long enough. Plus, when plugged in the phoje tries to boot without me trying to turn it on, which isn't good either.
I really like(d?) My phone, should I just accept its gone and move on?
My son's old Wildfire is driving me bonkers this now!

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Well, I would say it's toast.. From the given status of the hardware i see no way to recover, without involving a technician. But with water in the game it can be hard to pin down the reason for the behaviour.. I would say the main print since it turns on and off by itself..
Have you tried drying it, and for how long has it been this way? Also, do you have the guts to open up the phone for a diy fix?
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TwinAdk said:
Well, I would say it's toast.. From the given status of the hardware i see no way to recover, without involving a technician. But with water in the game it can be hard to pin down the reason for the behaviour.. I would say the main print since it turns on and off by itself..
Have you tried drying it, and for how long has it been this way? Also, do you have the guts to open up the phone for a diy fix?
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Hi,
I am in the process of appealing with my insurance company. Their case is that I didn't disclose all the material facts, but I am of the opinion that if it was water damaged at some point, then it has worked for weeks before it decided to play up, so that cannot be the reason. I did put the phone in a sealed box of rice and placed that in the boiler cupboard for 3 days when it was returned by the insurance co. When I took it out it was exactly the same as before. The phone came out on Monday of this week.
I'll wait for the result of my appeal before I pull it apart. Not entirely sure what I would do once in the case, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it!

Sounds like a plan, post back I have *NO* experience taking these things apart though.

If you need to take it apart its not that bad. I had to dismantle mine when my sons drink spilt all over it and it started rebooting and went into safe mode before I could turn it off. There are videos on youtube to show you how. However if you have dried it as much as you say I am not sure what you can do once in there
Water got all around my SIM and volume controls but all ok once dried out.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
If you need to take it apart its not that bad. I had to dismantle mine when my sons drink spilt all over it and it started rebooting and went into safe mode before I could turn it off. There are videos on youtube to show you how. However if you have dried it as much as you say I am not sure what you can do once in there
Water got all around my SIM and volume controls but all ok once dried out.
Good luck
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Thanks herbie. I should hear back from my insurance company regarding the appeal I made over the next day or two. Fingers crossed I wont have to resort to pulling the phone apart. Pretty sure that the board is fried, so not sure what I would achieve anyway.
I've still got the phone and have had it in the boiler cupboard again inside a box full of rice, so if nothing else, anything that may have been in there will be long dried up by time I hear back. I'll pull it out after they get back to me.

chouman said:
Thanks herbie. I should hear back from my insurance company regarding the appeal I made over the next day or two. Fingers crossed I wont have to resort to pulling the phone apart. Pretty sure that the board is fried, so not sure what I would achieve anyway.
I've still got the phone and have had it in the boiler cupboard again inside a box full of rice, so if nothing else, anything that may have been in there will be long dried up by time I hear back. I'll pull it out after they get back to me.
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Guys, just want to thank you for your time on this one. I've had a letter through this morning accepting my appeal. They asked me to get a letter from my network confirming that the IMEI of this phone was in use up until the date I said and I sent this in, and I sent this on.
I've just called them and they said that the phone was unrepairable and I should expect contact within 3 working days with either a replacement being sent out (reconditioned phone) or a cash payment to buy a replacement.
Just a few more days with a 3/4 year old HTC Wildfire then back to a speedy One X (or One if they make a cash offer!).

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Thats great Nice that they accepted the appeal. They seems thorough in that they are asking for the imei number and proof of usage, wow
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Hi!
Sorry for bumping the topic, but I had the same problem.
The power button was broken, and was constantly pushed in. The device rebooted all by itself, and couldn't charge.
I replaced the power button and it all works like a charm right now!
Sorry for being to late, but I discovered yesterday

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Didn't the constantly pressed power button result in the buttons below the screen flashing? I don't know if the OP experienced this..
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TwinAdk said:
Didn't the constantly pressed power button result in the buttons below the screen flashing? I don't know if the OP experienced this..
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I don't think there was any issue with the power button, but it would make some sense. I did ask what they found to be wrong with the phone and the lady on the phone just said it was unrepairable.
I called again today and I've been told to expect a white 32gb One X to be coming my way (again within 3 days which seems to be their standard response to anything!), so glad it's all over. Hoping to get my wife to take it on to replace her white iPhone 4S which is coming out of contract in a couple of months as she's after something faster and I'll get the new HTC One, but not too confident of pulling that off!

No, my buttons weren't flashing at all, if you try yourself, they aren't flashing too.
Glad it's fixed but I'm pretty sure it was the power button

epic 4g touch Water Damaged

well guys, i kinda left my phone sitting nexto my glass of water when i was sleeping, woke up..and the phone was off, and the battery had a RED TAB on it. SO i put it in a bag of rice for 2 days, turned it on with a new battery and it worked COMPLETELY FINE, i used it all day, that night i turned it off and when i tried to turn it on the next morning something went wrong, The galaxy S2 logo shows up, closes then pops up again, then it boots up to the main screen where my lock screen is, the touch screen doesn't work at all anymore, So i boot it up into recovery mode, and i go to try a factory reset, and the power button doesn't let me select anything.but when i hit the little menu button on the bottom left, it takes the recovery to a loading screen, so the touch screen must be working right???... SOO i thought that id try a 1 click ROM, so i tried to connect it to my computer,and the computer doesn't read it AT ALL....i put it into ODIN mode, tried connecting it again, nothing, SOOO i really dont know what to do here, it was working perfectly fine... and the WERID THING is, when it turns on to the lock screen, i can receive texts,emails,phone calls, and the phone is updating games and stuf i have installed...i just cant unlock the screen, so if ANYONE could help me here it would be greatly appreciated, Thank you

Sounds like your phone had residual moisture trapped inside and that seeped into circuits or connections and caused a short that's borking your digitizer.
Whenever you have a water mishap like that you need to disassemble your phone and pack all the pieces in rice or suspend them in front of an air conditioner while letting the cold dry air blow over and around the parts overnight.
The a/c part I know first hand because my wife toilet bombed her epic last summer, and that's what I did, reassembled the next morning and its still working fine.
Of coarse when the phone hit the water it was pulled instantly and I pulled the battery and instantly disassembled the phone.
In your case I don't know if disassembling it now will help.
You may need parts to fix it.
Start Googling. There is NO software that's going to fix your phone.
Pp.:beer::thumbup:
From me to you on an Epic Touch running the best rom ever.

well im taking it to a cell phone repair shop in town tommorow, see if they can possibly fix it, well have to see...

Mine fell in a pot hole left it in rice for 3 days still didn't work was very laggy had to get a replacement phone
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When I got my first one I went overboard off the boat I was working on. Five minutes in the water, it was toast. That was salt water though...
Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul

Liquipel, email them and ask them to officially support the Sprint GS2 as well as the AT&T & Tmobile that they already support for waterproofing, I already did and they said they'd do it, but it's not official yet cuz not enough people have been asking I think for the ET4G version.
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