Since a week ago my DHD screen started switching itself on every few minutes. The phone doesn't unlock but keeps lighting up which is annoying esp at night! I'm using stock 2.2.1 Sense so can't understand why this started happening. Reset or removing battery doesn't do anything either
Anyone else had this or found a solution?
Rich
maruchan78 said:
Since a week ago my DHD screen started switching itself on every few minutes. The phone doesn't unlock but keeps lighting up which is annoying esp at night! I'm using stock 2.2.1 Sense so can't understand why this started happening. Reset or removing battery doesn't do anything either
Anyone else had this or found a solution?
Rich
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I had a similar problem with my HTC Desire. I found it to be a problem with the power / lock switch on the top of the device that was getting 'stuck'.
Can you confirm if what your experiencing is the same as if you were to continually press the power / lock button on the top of the phone?
Yes, it's basically the same as the power button being pressed. I wondered if it might be stuck but it doesn't look any different or stuck..
maruchan78 said:
Yes, it's basically the same as the power button being pressed. I wondered if it might be stuck but it doesn't look any different or stuck..
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Just out of curiosity, could the phone have been exposed to water at any point?
It's indicating to be a hardware problem since you have the Somebody on HTCPedia.com was having a similar problem and this seemed to solve their issue:
I had the exact same problem and it was (most probably) also caused by exposure to water: I had the phone in my pocket while cycling through rain and it all got wet. Since then, the power button got stuck, as in it was always pressed but sometimes was getting released depending on how the phone was held. For me, this resulted in the batter being drained in about 4 hours since it kept bringing up ShutXP.
EDIT: Do not use a flux remover (de-flux) solution/spray like I described previously (now deleted). In my case it worked for about 1 day and then then button was completely irresponsive which is a worse problem than having it always pressed (if you take the battery out, you can't turn it on).
I was inspired by a solution in another forum. I used surgical alcohol that yuou can by at any pharmacy. The higher the concentration, the better (I used 90 deg).
Take the battery out first !!!
Effectively, you drop a few drops of alcohol inside (yes, inside!) the phone through the small cracks around the power button. I used a pipette but dipping cotton in alcohol and then squeezing also works. Don't worry about dropping to many drops of alcohol ... it dries very quickly. I then blew in- and shook the phone strongly (this was important) to make the liquid advance a bit inside and also to dry it. You then need to leave the phone to dry. You can speed that up if yo put it under a desk lamp.
All solved now. Power button now works fine. What happened probably was that humidity/water created a short circuit, giving the same result as keeping the power button pressed.
If the above doesn't do the trick, you can try to unscrew the plastic shield that covers the button, remove the external button and access the real micro-mechanical button that is soldered onto a very small pcb. You give that one a good clean, rubbing it generously with a small piece of cloth dipped in alcohol. You can also try scratching the surface between the button's soldered pins since that's where a short circuit probably formed in the first place.
Hope you fix it.
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Original post link:
http://htcpedia.com/forum/htc-touch-hd-blackstone/2982-power-button-stuck.html
Hope this helps
Thanks a lot for the help. This is why xda is such a great forum. From this I worked out it is the power switch and after playing with it and seems to be working on for now. If the prob happens again I'll try the alcohol trick above.
Thanks again
maruchan78 said:
Thanks a lot for the help. This is why xda is such a great forum. From this I worked out it is the power switch and after playing with it and seems to be working on for now. If the prob happens again I'll try the alcohol trick above.
Thanks again
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No problem at all, glad to be of assistance
I just got my Xperia play today and notice that I can hardly feel the button being pushed down (power button). Is this supposed to happen? First time it worked fine, but now it won't even work (e.g. to turn the screen on etc).
Should I give it a few days to see if it wears in, or return it? Thanks
Fully agree with you on this. I got mine yesterday and the button was sticking. There must be some sort of knack to put the battery cover on.
Would filing down the plastic be the answer? Seems a bit odd to resort to this when it should just work.
If it isn't working now to even turn the screen on, you should return it and get another, the sooner the better . Mine works fine, always some response from it.
Sent from my XPERIA PLAY 4G
I've got the same thing ; resorted to keeping the case around the power button slightly open - works fine like that.
Well what I meant was that it was so far stuck down that pressing it had no effect whatsoever. Even if I tried to use my fingernail to dig into the button, nothing happened. It returned to the normal state after pulling the back cover and put it back again, but after a bit of mashing the power button round, it got stuck and became useless again.
I was thinking of filing the back cover a bit, but I might as well return it instead.
I've just got mine unlocked (via Jinx13) so I'm loathed to return mine now. Let me know how the filing goes
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This happened to mine too.
It resulted in the button acting like I was long pressing it when I was simply tapping it.
It seems the top of the button was getting stuck on the casing, I flicked it off the casing a few times and haven't any problems in a while.
But still, seems an issue.
I have a similar issue or had. I was able to wiggle it free gently.
Noticed it was the hard case protector I bought for it.... It's temporary for now until my skin comes then will go caseless.
I have the p600, bought at Best Buy a few days after launch. Have it rooted using auto root. It has been running perfectly until today. It started taking a few presses of the power button to turn it on after the screen went to sleep, I thought nothing of it and assumed I was just not pressing the button hard enough.
Then a few hours ago, it just stopped turning on again after the screen went to sleep. If I power it off (long press on power button) it will reboot and the display is on again, and it works fine until it goes back to sleep.
After pressing the power button, the menu and back button light up, and If I hold the tablet in a bright light, I can see the images on the screen. So I know the LCD is working, but for some reason the back light won't turn back on after going to sleep. If it were a bad back light, then obviously it wouldn't work again after rebooting.
I tried a factory wipe - same problem
I did an Odin flash with MK1 stock rom - same problem
I suspect a hardware issue, but Ive been reading about this "sleep of death" that can happen with android devices. Fixes range from installing new kernels to replacing the device.
Anyone experience this or know what is going on?
**UPDATE**
A possible fix for this (and it worked for me) is to take the back cover off, disconnect the battery, and plug it back in again.
I have included pictures of what you are looking for.
When taking the back cover off, I was able to do it with just a credit card. Start at the charge port and carefully get between the casing at the cover, move around the outside, popping the outside clips (look at the photo of this). The inner clips will still be holding after you get all the way around, then simply work out the inner clips 1 at a time. It was a little difficult the first time because I wasn't sure how it was attached, but the second time I took it off, it was pretty straight forward.
When putting the cover back on, follow the same procedure. Start at the charge port, get those clips in, then work your way around the outside, careful not to push to hard on the inner part of the tablet, apply your force at the edges. once the edges are clipped in all the way around, simply press in the inner clips (you will feel them snap in)
I can post more pictures for people who want them. I might even make a short video of the procedure, all in all, its pretty straight forward. It's a relatively easy cover to remove.
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Battery connector removed (you will see, it is just the white part that comes out, use a small screwdriver or pry tool just behind the wires, and lift up, its cliped on the sides)
These are the internal and external clips, you will see that the "hole" looking ones are the internals, they are in there pretty good, take care when prying them out not to damage the cover or clip mount
Interesting.. I just received my p600 today. I had an occurrence similar to this - I hope there isn't some flaw in them we are uncovering... I'll have to wait a week or two before rooting to see if it occurs again.
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Interesting.. I just received my p600 today. I had an occurrence similar to this - I hope there isn't some flaw in them we are uncovering... I'll have to wait a week or two before rooting to see if it occurs again.
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ya, good idea on the root. Im not sure how the warranty bit being tripped is going to play out should I need a replacement given that we don't even have custom kernels or rom's yet.
I am going to downgrade the firmware to MJ4 and cross my fingers. Wish there was a faster way to DL these other than slow ass sammobile lol.
Had the same issue on my 10-day old device during a flight back from the US to the UK which was highly inconvenient.
Anyway, what I noticed was that when opening the magnet cover or turning on from sleep, the tablet actually woke up (touch buttons lit up) but the screen backlight wasn't turning on (if I held it at a certain angle, I could see that the screen was showing the home page but just no backlight).
Another side effect of this was that, even after rebooting and having the screen backlight on, the brightness setting was doing nothing.. I could set it to auto or manual brightness and adjust the slider and it stayed the same brightness regardless. As with others, a factory restore had no effect.
In the end, given that I'm kind of boned for the US warranty living in the UK anyway, I just opened it, disconnected the battery connector, reconnected it and started it up. After that, no problem.. brightness and wake-from-sleep started working again no problem.
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Had the same issue on my 10-day old device during a flight back from the US to the UK which was highly inconvenient.
Anyway, what I noticed was that when opening the magnet cover or turning on from sleep, the tablet actually woke up (touch buttons lit up) but the screen backlight wasn't turning on (if I held it at a certain angle, I could see that the screen was showing the home page but just no backlight).
Another side effect of this was that, even after rebooting and having the screen backlight on, the brightness setting was doing nothing.. I could set it to auto or manual brightness and adjust the slider and it stayed the same brightness regardless. As with others, a factory restore had no effect.
In the end, given that I'm kind of boned for the US warranty living in the UK anyway, I just opened it, disconnected the battery connector, reconnected it and started it up. After that, no problem.. brightness and wake-from-sleep started working again no problem.
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I am using the the bookcover also, wonder if the magnetic cover is somehow screwing it up. Im glad you said you opened it up to DC the battery. That was on my list of things to try! too bad there isn't a way to DC the battery with a USB jig. cross some wires or something.. as a EE, one would think I would know a trick that would accomplish that.. lol.
im downgrading firmware and going to do a full nand-erase with bootloader update, and see what happens
*Just noticed that my brightness slider also has no effect. This must be the indicator that the sleep of death has occurred
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I removed the back cover, unplugged the battery, plugged it back in and it started working normally again. After playing with it for several minutes to ensure it was working (turning it off and on a few times over and over) I put the rear cover back on. But as soon as I had done that, the problem started again.
I removed the cover again.. unplugged the battery.. but this time, after plugging it back in, the problem remained. After a few more unplug/repluging of the battery and it not working, I decided to unplug the LCD, digitizer, and the backlight ribbon cables. I booted the device without these attached, let it boot fully, then powered it down, removed the battery connector, re-attached the ribbon cables then the battery, booted it again, and the screen was back to normal.
Ill keep playing around with this to see if isolate the problem, but it seems like there is something going on with the connectors, or some sensor/detector/controller getting "software stuck". When the screen is turned off, this sensor/detector/controller is either not getting the right information sent to it, or, it is has gotten stuck in some process it can't resolve (happens a lot in hardware engineering). It can happen when something shorts, and sends the device into a shutdown state (watchdog trips). The rear motherboard has A LOT of flex to it, and I had to push kinda hard on the rear cover to re-attach it. I wonder if when the back of the tablet gets pushed in just the right way, in just the right spot, it causes this screen issue to happen.
Either way, this is pretty unacceptable for a $600 device. The good news is that there is no warrant seal on the rear cover.
After use auto root. did you reinstall stock recovery?.
Serinety said:
*Update*
I removed the back cover, unplugged the battery, plugged it back in and it started working normally again. After playing with it for several minutes to ensure it was working (turning it off and on a few times over and over) I put the rear cover back on. But as soon as I had done that, the problem started again.
I removed the cover again.. unplugged the battery.. but this time, after plugging it back in, the problem remained. After a few more unplug/repluging of the battery and it not working, I decided to unplug the LCD, digitizer, and the backlight ribbon cables. I booted the device without these attached, let it boot fully, then powered it down, removed the battery connector, re-attached the ribbon cables then the battery, booted it again, and the screen was back to normal.
Ill keep playing around with this to see if isolate the problem, but it seems like there is something going on with the connectors, or some sensor/detector/controller getting "software stuck". When the screen is turned off, this sensor/detector/controller is either not getting the right information sent to it, or, it is has gotten stuck in some process it can't resolve (happens a lot in hardware engineering). It can happen when something shorts, and sends the device into a shutdown state (watchdog trips). The rear motherboard has A LOT of flex to it, and I had to push kinda hard on the rear cover to re-attach it. I wonder if when the back of the tablet gets pushed in just the right way, in just the right spot, it causes this screen issue to happen.
Either way, this is pretty unacceptable for a $600 device. The good news is that there is no warrant seal on the rear cover.
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If you open it again, would you mind taking a few pictures of a disassembly process and the way it looks after removing the back cover?
How difficult is it to remove the back cover? Any plastic damage caused?
malutki said:
If you open it again, would you mind taking a few pictures of a disassembly process and the way it looks after removing the back cover?
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Already took em That was the first thing I thought of when I was taking it apart. I will try to get them posted soon.
Tablet turned on and off like normal yesterday and today. Not a single forced reboot was required. However, while taking notes today, I noticed a dead zone on the right side of the screen. Touch works fine there(with fingers), but the spen won't work. It just jumps over the area. The affected area is a vertical line from top to bottom.
Since I have not been using the spen lately, I can't be sure if it is a symptom of the sleep of death, or a result of removing the ribbon cables and not seating them properly when I reattached them. I'm going reseat the cables and see what happens.
I just got my Note tonight and have this same issue. I got it at Amazon and it came with both seals broken as others have found. Was surprised it seemed to already be on, when I hit the power button the buttons lit up but no screen. Grabbed a flashlight and could see the backlight wasn't turning on. Tried turning it off and back on, or so I thought, but no dice. I figured I had a bad unit and set up the RMA with Amazon.
I then went and stuck it on the charger and held the power button for a long time, and the charging screen popped up. Turned it on, seemed to be working fine until I hit the power button, and then the backlight wouldn't turn back on again until I rebooted it. I took all of the updates and did another factory reset, same issue.
Now, I also bought a smart cover. After taking the updates but before the reset I tried it, it'd shut off the Note but the backlight still wouldn't turn on when I opened it up. HOWEVER, after the factory reset, I opened and closed it a few times and it worked correctly. I then tried the power button a couple of times and it also worked correctly. For the record, my brightness controls DO work correctly.
At this point I'm not sure what to do. I _really_ want this tablet, and Amazon is out of stuck so I can only return it for a refund. I don't want to do that since I got it on sale and it no longer is.
EDIT: Also, I just tried closing my smart cover and hitting the power button with the cover still closed, and the screen DID turn on. So I'm not sure if that partially throws the theory of the magnet going out of whack out the window or not, since it should turn on even if the cover is closed.
locovaca said:
I just got my Note tonight and have this same issue. I got it at Amazon and it came with both seals broken as others have found. Was surprised it seemed to already be on, when I hit the power button the buttons lit up but no screen. Grabbed a flashlight and could see the backlight wasn't turning on. Tried turning it off and back on, or so I thought, but no dice. I figured I had a bad unit and set up the RMA with Amazon.
I then went and stuck it on the charger and held the power button for a long time, and the charging screen popped up. Turned it on, seemed to be working fine until I hit the power button, and then the backlight wouldn't turn back on again until I rebooted it. I took all of the updates and did another factory reset, same issue.
Now, I also bought a smart cover. After taking the updates but before the reset I tried it, it'd shut off the Note but the backlight still wouldn't turn on when I opened it up. HOWEVER, after the factory reset, I opened and closed it a few times and it worked correctly. I then tried the power button a couple of times and it also worked correctly. For the record, my brightness controls DO work correctly.
At this point I'm not sure what to do. I _really_ want this tablet, and Amazon is out of stuck so I can only return it for a refund. I don't want to do that since I got it on sale and it no longer is.
EDIT: Also, I just tried closing my smart cover and hitting the power button with the cover still closed, and the screen DID turn on. So I'm not sure if that partially throws the theory of the magnet going out of whack out the window or not, since it should turn on even if the cover is closed.
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I just checked Amazon and they have them in stock. Do you think maybe because so many people are getting replacements over and over they are just recycling them and selling them as "new?" Do you have the link to where people are reporting getting them with both seals broken? Thanks.
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I just checked Amazon and they have them in stock. Do you think maybe because so many people are getting replacements over and over they are just recycling them and selling them as "new?" Do you have the link to where people are reporting getting them with both seals broken? Thanks.
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Amazon itself doesn't have the 32gb black in stock, only 3rd party vendors.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Edition-Black/dp/B00F3SOHNU
The most recent opened seal thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533073
Here's an older one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483916
Hi Serinety:
Thanks for the diassembly picture. I believe you are the first one to show the inside!
If possible, do you mind showing pictures a bit more inside? For instance, I'd like to see where the WiFi and LTE connectors are. (They are both different connectors btw)
Many thanks.
Serinety said:
I have the p600, bought at Best Buy a few days after launch. Have it rooted using auto root. It has been running perfectly until today. It started taking a few presses of the power button to turn it on after the screen went to sleep, I thought nothing of it and assumed I was just not pressing the button hard enough.
Then a few hours ago, it just stopped turning on again after the screen went to sleep. If I power it off (long press on power button) it will reboot and the display is on again, and it works fine until it goes back to sleep.
After pressing the power button, the menu and back button light up, and If I hold the tablet in a bright light, I can see the images on the screen. So I know the LCD is working, but for some reason the back light won't turn back on after going to sleep. If it were a bad back light, then obviously it wouldn't work again after rebooting.
I tried a factory wipe - same problem
I did an Odin flash with MK1 stock rom - same problem
I suspect a hardware issue, but Ive been reading about this "sleep of death" that can happen with android devices. Fixes range from installing new kernels to replacing the device.
Anyone experience this or know what is going on?
**UPDATE**
A possible fix for this (and it worked for me) is to take the back cover off, disconnect the battery, and plug it back in again.
I have included pictures of what you are looking for.
When taking the back cover off, I was able to do it with just a credit card. Start at the charge port and carefully get between the casing at the cover, move around the outside, popping the outside clips (look at the photo of this). The inner clips will still be holding after you get all the way around, then simply work out the inner clips 1 at a time. It was a little difficult the first time because I wasn't sure how it was attached, but the second time I took it off, it was pretty straight forward.
When putting the cover back on, follow the same procedure. Start at the charge port, get those clips in, then work your way around the outside, careful not to push to hard on the inner part of the tablet, apply your force at the edges. once the edges are clipped in all the way around, simply press in the inner clips (you will feel them snap in)
I can post more pictures for people who want them. I might even make a short video of the procedure, all in all, its pretty straight forward. It's a relatively easy cover to remove.
Battery Connection
Battery connector removed (you will see, it is just the white part that comes out, use a small screwdriver or pry tool just behind the wires, and lift up, its cliped on the sides)
These are the internal and external clips, you will see that the "hole" looking ones are the internals, they are in there pretty good, take care when prying them out not to damage the cover or clip mount
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locovaca said:
I just got my Note tonight and have this same issue. I got it at Amazon and it came with both seals broken as others have found. Was surprised it seemed to already be on, when I hit the power button the buttons lit up but no screen. Grabbed a flashlight and could see the backlight wasn't turning on. Tried turning it off and back on, or so I thought, but no dice. I figured I had a bad unit and set up the RMA with Amazon.
I then went and stuck it on the charger and held the power button for a long time, and the charging screen popped up. Turned it on, seemed to be working fine until I hit the power button, and then the backlight wouldn't turn back on again until I rebooted it. I took all of the updates and did another factory reset, same issue.
Now, I also bought a smart cover. After taking the updates but before the reset I tried it, it'd shut off the Note but the backlight still wouldn't turn on when I opened it up. HOWEVER, after the factory reset, I opened and closed it a few times and it worked correctly. I then tried the power button a couple of times and it also worked correctly. For the record, my brightness controls DO work correctly.
At this point I'm not sure what to do. I _really_ want this tablet, and Amazon is out of stuck so I can only return it for a refund. I don't want to do that since I got it on sale and it no longer is.
EDIT: Also, I just tried closing my smart cover and hitting the power button with the cover still closed, and the screen DID turn on. So I'm not sure if that partially throws the theory of the magnet going out of whack out the window or not, since it should turn on even if the cover is closed.
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I got mine from BH Photo. It works perfectly and all seals were intact when I opened it.
Thanks, can you help me?
i just drop my p600, all the digitizer is broken now, but its still working, i dont want to tear down it, because it can stop working, so, can you please tell me if the digitizer is atached (glue and heat) to the screen, or is it just a plastic holder as its predecessor note 10.1?...
thanks buddyes, sorry about my english it is not my main lenguage u_u, im trying my best.
Just repaired my daughter 's note 10.1 2014 further hard fall thanks to your battery advice!
Thank you, it works fine
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Just someone post the images of rear back of Note 10.1 (2014) for both P601 and P600 to see the diff when Disassemble the P601 and P600 for replacement purpose?
(mine is P601 and i think i need replace SIM card holder-it's broken since few times take it in-out).
This thread freaks me out. I hope this doesn't start happening to me/everyone.
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Taking into account the shock of impact, it is normal to my opinion to have strange behaviour of the device...
Would be better to have full time access to battery in order to make hard reset ... or to have dedicated button for this purpose.
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So during my holiday my HOX got splashed with a bit of water from a wave. The battery was running on fumes and, when I looked at it, the phone was dead. It did turned on later while in my pocket and I happened to press the power button.
I let it dry on rice and nothing. I made the potential mistake of trying to charge it so it would heat up and it wouldn't charge. I then bought another mobile and, just to try it, I took opened the HOX and hoovered. Nothing.
Miracle happened yesterday when, just for kicks, I tried the charger again. It power up!! Everything seems fine, no visible screen damage, wifi works, everything works just fine but... screen won't respond to touch on the very bottom, say, the capacitive and menu buttons (the ones just above the capacitive ones).
What do you guys think? Is the screen dead there, maybe I didn't put the screen back properly or should I wait as some moister might yet be there?
Cheers!
Kutusov said:
So during my holiday my HOX got splashed with a bit of water from a wave. The battery was running on fumes and, when I looked at it, the phone was dead. It did turned on later while in my pocket and I happened to press the power button.
I let it dry on rice and nothing. I made the potential mistake of trying to charge it so it would heat up and it wouldn't charge. I then bought another mobile and, just to try it, I took opened the HOX and hoovered. Nothing.
Miracle happened yesterday when, just for kicks, I tried the charger again. It power up!! Everything seems fine, no visible screen damage, wifi works, everything works just fine but... screen won't respond to touch on the very bottom, say, the capacitive and menu buttons (the ones just above the capacitive ones).
What do you guys think? Is the screen dead there, maybe I didn't put the screen back properly or should I wait as some moister might yet be there?
Cheers!
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This is a flashback to me. Same thing happened to me few weeks ago - first 3 bottom buttons stoped working, and now 7 days ago part of touch screen is not working anymore. I am going to replace lcd+digitizer+frame, lucky me nothing else need to be fixed. And IMHO trying to heat closed HTC when water was in it doesn't make a sense as a water will condense (as it is closed) so it would make more damage. Oxidation sucks :/
I do have the SIM slot opened but yeah, that's a tinny opening, not much space for water vapour to escape... it's been a few weeks since I thought it had died though, it's pretty amazing to me that it came back at all. Some tough phones, these...
Anyway, I think I'll try to take the screen out again, I wasn't too careful putting it back in because I saw it wasn't charging or powering up or anything at all.