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reception problems

hi all
ive been having trouble with my desire for a while now. im getting very poor signal and not been able to send mms. i was with t mobile but didnt get anywhere with them so i left and signed up to vodafone who brag reaaly strong signal in my area. guess what.... worse then t mobile. i get 1-2 bars max and my 3g constantly drops off to nothing a lot. ive been to htc and vodaphone and still no real help. vodafone are sending me a new sim incase its a problem with mine. has anyone else got a poor signal in a good area? i tried the sim in a different phone and had the same bed reception so i thought it was vodafone but then tried my friends sim in my desire (orange). he had 4 bars in his but in my desire i only got 1-2 again. this would suggest a problem with both lol.
the strange thing about the 3g is everytime i switched it it droped down then off with in a few seconds but i used advanced task killer to kill all apps and my 3g came on straight away and didnt go again. could somthing be blocking it somehow maybe? my reception was still poor but atleast i could get some sort of internet.
im alos finding brown blotches on my battery cover. like the coating is rubbing off. again anyone else had this?

I get a rubbish signal, and have e-mailed HTC support to see about getting my phone replaced/repaired. I only get a 2g signal at work in central London, if I set the network to "WCDMA Only" it can't even detect the network, but when I put my SIM in my old phone (HTC HD) I get 5 bars of HSDPA and around 3mbps data so clearly the phone is the problem and not coverage.

dickson123 said:
I get a rubbish signal, and have e-mailed HTC support to see about getting my phone replaced/repaired. I only get a 2g signal at work in central London, if I set the network to "WCDMA Only" it can't even detect the network, but when I put my SIM in my old phone (HTC HD) I get 5 bars of HSDPA and around 3mbps data so clearly the phone is the problem and not coverage.
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have you even bothered to try a new radio? i get 4 bars hsdpa on tmob prepay whereva i go

AndroHero said:
have you even bothered to try a new radio? i get 4 bars hsdpa on tmob prepay whereva i go
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I don't want to root it otherwise I'll end up wasting time flashing different ROMs every week. Besides, I don't see a new radio making a difference when it can't even detect the 3g network and the blackstone gets 5 bars H.

as above im not to keen on rooting too. not that i dont really want to more that i dont know enough to try it. ive read the walk throughs and it sounds easy ish but i dont want risk it. i did the who new rom thing with my hd2 and i was for every changing roms. what im trying to find out is where the problem lies, vodafone or the desire.

stephen2529 said:
as above im not to keen on rooting too. not that i dont really want to more that i dont know enough to try it. ive read the walk throughs and it sounds easy ish but i dont want risk it. i did the who new rom thing with my hd2 and i was for every changing roms. what im trying to find out is where the problem lies, vodafone or the desire.
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The problem is neither its the software, the shipped radios are **** lol thats why htc release so many new ones
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

i did think that might be the case. i had a similer thing with my old hd2 and a new radio did help a lot. again havent really got the confidance to root this phone. hopfully the update will bring a better radio. any ideaqs why using task killer brought back my internet conection?

Same problem with my desire but only after the ota update last month i think it was. I am also not comfortable rooting yet.
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been on the phone to htc and they think it could be the antena and have recomended i send it in to them. vodafone are alos sending me a new sim to try too just incase its not working right.

stephen2529 said:
i did think that might be the case. i had a similer thing with my old hd2 and a new radio did help a lot. again havent really got the confidance to root this phone. hopfully the update will bring a better radio. any ideaqs why using task killer brought back my internet conection?
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rooting ur desire is sooooo easy now man u should give it a try, i had experience b4 rooting my hero but after i took my desire owta its box i was rooted 20 mins later it was that easy

lol i may give it a second look. last time a looked there was some problems i thnk and posts saying dont do it but i guess things have moved on since then.

stephen2529 said:
lol i may give it a second look. last time a looked there was some problems i thnk and posts saying dont do it but i guess things have moved on since then.
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this is the tut i used its so simple
http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/

cool thanks for that. ill have a read through now.
making the gold card seems the harder part. ill have to get another card to at some point too. who knows i may end up just going for it lol. just hop it works if i do. be just my luck it is the antena

There's loads of threads on here about reception...
EG: try GSM auto ( PRL ) works fab on my Orange UK phone.. but have a look at the forum ..

[Q]Does the sim card affect network speeds?

when i bought my G2 i was told i could keep using my old sim card from my G1. my G2 average network speed is like average 500-800kb/s, sometimes 1200kb/s, rarely from 2300-3000kb/s, and every blue/red/black moon it will hit slightly more than 4000kb/s. i live in LA and work in Beverly Hills, so im covered.
i know bandwidth can affect the speeds, but i'd expect to get on average at least above 1200kb/s. my question is could my sim card be having any negative effect on my speeds? should i put in the new one?
oh yeah and i have not recieved the OTA yet either.

The thing is that HSPA+(pseudo "4G") isn't available everywhere. You're probably only on HSDPA which is quite a bit slower than HSPA+.
I don't think changing your sim card would affect your speeds at all, because the sim card doesn't interpret or recieve any data from the cell towers (correct me if I'm wrong)
It just says "HI I'M MIKE'S PHONE AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS XXX-XXX-XXXX AND HERE'S ALL MY INFO"
^_^

thanks for the reply!
i checked the coverage maps and according to them my area is covered. what can i do to get those speeds? i dont think ive ever been on hspa+

IMO I don't think their coverage map is that accurate. For example my house apparently has HSPA+ according to them. However no phones (tried on AT&T and T-Mo) are able to get very good signal at all, with my G2 unable to get data at home. However if I walk to the end of my street I am able to just barely get HSPA+.
Just goes to show: Not everything on the internet is true. XD

ibemad1 said:
Just goes to show: Not everything on the internet is true. XD
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It's not ?
I have a bad feeling about that email I sent with all my bank details to the guy from Nigeria who I was helping transfer some money

changing ur sim would help if u are getting poor signal/coverage and thats only if you are using a very old simcard such as ones from voicestream. also does your G2 banner (when u pull down for notification alert) say T-Mobile | Get More? if it does you may need to update ur sim and it will remove that and just say T-Mobile.

For what it's worth, my SIM card is about 8 years old and I get some really nice speeds with my G2. So I'd say it has very little to do with your SIM card.

The only thing that matters is the radio that the phone supports, the sd doesn't matter. Go into teting via dial pad(*#*#4636#*#*) and force the network type you want.

Just for the hell of it I called T-Mobile today and activated the new SIM that came with my G2. The one I was using was from two phones ago when I had my Sidekick. But even with that SIM card I was getting exceptional speeds. I've been using it for weeks in my G2.
I also told T-Mobile to make sure my web was provisioned with the newest plan.
I haven't used data much since then, because it was only a few hours ago and I use WIFI at home. But if I notice a big difference I'll post here.
I would say that you probably just have a very busy network in your area. Data speeds depend a lot on how many people are using the network in your area. Or maybe just the towers aren't fully upgraded yet.

apprecaite all the help!
my sim card isnt that old, its the same one that came with my g1, which i bought in 2009. i talked to a rep earlier today, he said it might affect the speeds because they made new sim cards this year? idk cause then the rep im talking to now says it has no efffect. i think im just gonna cahnge the sim just cause i want to, if it actually makes any difference ill let you guys know
ok i just changed the sim card, and the speeds did actually improve. aside from that, accoding to the speedtest results, im now actually connecting to hspa+, before all it would say is cell, now it says umts sometimes. overall seems like an improvement

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steviewevie said:
It's not ?
I have a bad feeling about that email I sent with all my bank details to the guy from Nigeria who I was helping transfer some money
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Yeah me too only it was a pretty white girl from Ghana....wondered why so many women that look like college cheerleaders are there clearing up their father's Estate......hmmmm.

[Q] New Sim Card

I recently purchased a G2 and was wondering if there is any benifit in activating the new simcard? I live in an area where 3G is everywhere but inside the city limits. I used to work at At&t way back when it was Cingular and I briefly remeber telling people something about upgrading to the 64 or 128 bit simcard (can't remember for sure). I have been using the same simcard for two+ years. If I travel to area's outside the city, I can use 3G speeds.
Your Knowledge is greatly appriciated.
slim

Why not?
You have nothing to loose!
...and I'm nearly certain it doesn't give you any extra benefit; I've had my SIM Since, the T-Mo Wing[?]
& Its still Going Strong!

Just replace it the sim technolgy has been the same for several years but if its real old the new 4g network might suffer a bit but still won't be to bad but it comes with a new one so just update it. Make sure that you back up any contacts you may have saved on it first though
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I called a T-mo rep about it and he said the sim cards have a expeiry date based on network transitions. He told me to activate the new sim simply because it was able to "recognize" more available bandwidth and that it did not expire from transitioning from umts,hsdpa,and hspa+ quickly where as he said mine would. (I find this bogus because my voicestream SIM card still worked)
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I personally think that T-Mo are talking BS. I'd be happy to be wrong if someone can provide proof that they're actually correct on this issue.

Actually its probably best. I checked my old sim card with the new sim card and the copper connector on the back is different from the new and old sim cards. Plus after activating the new one, I didn't have hiccups transfering from E to 3G to H whereas before it would randomly drop from H to E. But thats for me.

[Q] 2G Signal only, enabling 3G drops signal totally.

Hi everyone,
I have a generic unlocked desire 2.2, unrooted, as standard as they come and connected to Orange.
When I run on GSM only mode in network settings my phone is fine...
BUT..
Enable WCDMA or WCDMA auto mode.... and it will connect to 3G for about 10/20 secs then drop the whole lot, "emergency calls only" is all I can get.
I live in town with full 3G,and have tried at my girlfriends 100 miles away too. This has been going on for about 3 weeks, and so far I have.......
Hard reset a couple of times....
Had a new SIM from Orange...
Tried a different SIM (O2) in my phone - which works perfectly, sat browsing on H for about half an hour or more with no problem.
Tried my SIM in a different phone (Touch Pro) - works perfectly as well! 3G and browsing internet all fine.
So - Orange say its the handset.... and I'm not sure their 2nd level tech really exist, cos I've never got to speak to them or had the promised callback!
and HTC reckon its a network issue.
I can see both sides, but that doesnt help when your stuck in the middle with sloooooow internet.
The only other thing I can think is that Orange dont like the fact I'm on unlimited data and using it, I hit about 900mb a month normally and 2Gb in Nov when my home broadband died for about a week. perhaps they have blocked my handset from 3G? If so they havent told me though! I have one of the panther tariffs from mid last year which were "unlimited".
Any suggestions would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance
Chris

Sounds strange indeed......
Theoreticly speaking, they could have placed some sort of a limit on your account to reduce the load on their network, but It'll be hard to prove. (Maybe you know someone who works there???)
You can look for your plan's contract (or ask them to fax it to you) - maybe it states the minimal speed of connection....
Threaten to disconnect if your speed does not improve..... Realy can't think of anything else.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10865272&postcount=5

Thanks,
I have tried all the options in that menu with no success.
Eventually last night I got orange 2nd level tech who was equally confused and could only suggest a radio version conflict with my handset and network.
Anyway they gave me a fault code which CPW (I purchased from mobiles.co.uk) looked at and glazed over.
I have called HTC direct now and they are having it in for warranty repair. 10 days with my old touch pro... how bad can i be?
Wouldnt surprise me if they send it back NFF........
fingers crossed!
EDIT: THE TOUCH PRO IS AWFUL!
Chris

Vodafone Sure Signal

I have a Vodafone Sure Signal femtocell device, which connects to my broadband and provides a localised 3G signal in my house, as network reception here is poor.
I have 2 other phones connected to the SS just fine, but the One X is intermittently losing the connection and needs a reboot to re-connect. There have been some other posts on the Vodafone UK forums from folks with a One X, not many but enough to make me wonder if there's a more common problem.
Does anyone else here have a Sure Signal, and if so, are you having any problems with it?

I don't personally have it but my friend does and he is getting drops constantly he is not best pleased as he had yellow spot issue aswell aha i think he's going to thro the OX off the wall shortly. He has phoned regarding this and got nowhere

Thanks for the reply. VF have contacted me after I posted on their eforums, I've raised a ticket and they're investigating. I'll report back if anything improves.
VF UK are really pushing the One X, so if there is a problem, I imagine they'll want to get it fixed.

do the vodafone handsets have vodafone firmware? i have a factory unlocked non branded unit I'm using on vodafone with SS and hab=ve had zero problems!

Thanks for the reply. I got mine from dialaphone and it's pure stock WWE. It's working now, but still a little flakey. If it loses connection to the SS, I turn airplane mode off and on again and it works again (quicker than a reboot).
Most of the One X users with problems on the VF forum have their old number on a new sim card, which apparently can cause the Sure Signal to bug out a bit until the new sim is registered. Mine is a brand new number though. It's lasting a day or so before I have any issues.
The SS has always been a little on the flakey side, though, I need to reset it every so often - but that's been weeks or months apart rather than days.
I have one of the older models with 4 lights, not sure if that makes a difference.
Half wondering if it's the phone not the SS, but will see how it goes for the next few days.

I have had very poor suresignal performance...and have swapped out one phone already after speaking to HTC.
But have found that by turning off WIFI, it seems to be a lot happier, and the replacement phone acts just the same as the first (sim free from CPW)
But without WIFI, all data comes out of your data plan, and not from your broadband even thought the SS uses the broadband connection.

I never got to the bottom of my sure signal problems with this phone until I installed cyanogenmod.
However I recently installed sense 5 and my phone would again not connect to my sure signal. I have gone back to cyanogenmod and the problem still exisits.
Can someone who uses a sure signal please tell me which radio you are using by going to settings, about phone, baseband version
Many thanks