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http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/03/co-founder-of-siri-assistant-is-a-world-changing-event-interview/
That is a lot of bluster. We'll see if it lives up to that hype.
It's SKYNET!!! Kill it with fire before it takes over!!!
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Pffft. It's all talk until I see a working copy released which doesn't suck.
... and when it happens, I will name mine "Jane."
Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
Apple will change the way humans interact with electronic devices
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lol, hyperbole
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Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
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I cant do anything with a iphone its to small much less use the keyboard
What's so new about this Android has it since like forever? May be for dumb ppl who still think Iphone4 has 4G?
Usually on HTC there's a 30% chance you'll get rational exchanges when Apple's in the mix looks like this one hits that mark lol. If Siri (ever researched it?) were hotly rumored to be on the Nexus Prime, it'd be the dominant buzz topic on HTC, guarantee it...he'll were hot and bothered over device credit transactions...
Ok.. back to the google+ android circles on this one...there's at least an appreciation for the technology and it's smartphone implications.
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"This is real AI..."
Sorry, but no. The sheer amount of stored data required to actually accomplish a true "AI" won't be fitting in a smartphone anytime soon, and until someone has an always-on, 10+mb downlink network as a normal mobile broadband connection, it certainly won't be cloud based either. This will be nothing more than very very good speach-initiated actions.
On a related note, don't be surprised if ICS also beefs up it's speech control. It's been a long time since pico tts was implemented, and now with the standard amount of storage space in smart phones they can afford to inject a bigger database.
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Using voice for a phone is a gimmick.. I've owned many smartphones and never felt the need for it.
Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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The sad thing is I can totally see that being the case. /smh
Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
In before I get flamed. And yeah, "if you don't like the thread, don't open it" .... whatever.
Is this a joke? Siri? Voice recognition with included internet search compatibility? Wow!!! Amazing!!! Not. Apple will be able to spin it as a ground breaking development to the idiot masses although this technology already exists and all that's different is more integration with voice command. On top of that it's boring and not as useful as they like to make it look. If this is all Apple's got it's pathetic. I don't even feel like responding to Apples non sense any longer is warranted. Let them sue everyone on the planet, they know their days are numbered and see the writing on the wall way better than I can.
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Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
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Agreed, posting some Apple crap voice recognition search utility on an ET4G Android forum on XDA Developers must be a joke. I think it's a joke unless its another retarded fanboy that doesn't know any better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPPcTN5sdX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Notice the date of the posted video was August 11, 2010
Apple its so cutting edge ::rolls eyes::
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Agreed, and then Apple's going to sue everyone who has voice recognition claiming it belongs to them. I'm wondering, have they ever tried suing Applebee's? Isn't there an apple in their sign too?
Apple be gone!
And whoever posted about this post being here in our ET forum, I agree, can a moderator move this Crapple junk out for the trash truck to pick up? Surely there's a "lawsuits-r-us" or "lawsuits-r-apple" website somewhere that this can be rejected into.
Ok, so I know a lot of people have been wow'ed by Siri for the iPhone 4s, but what about what Microsoft started with Xbox Kinect, I know that technology can be improved upon to incorporate some form advanced AI that does more than just motion detection and a few voice commands for the xbox.
Imagine if the kinect was integrated into WP7.5 for voice recognition to actualize operations on the phone.
Then we would see competition. I think Kinect has more potential than what Siri is offering right now.
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Ok, so I know a lot of people have been wow'ed by Siri for the iPhone 4s, but what about what Microsoft started with Xbox Kinect, I know that technology can be improved upon to incorporate some form advanced AI that does more than just motion detection and a few voice commands for the xbox.
Imagine if the kinect was integrated into WP7.5 for voice recognition to actualize operations on the phone.
Then we would see competition. I think Kinect has more potential than what Siri is offering right now.
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The technology that powers the voice control behind Kinect and WP7 is called TellMe (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/tellme/)
Here is a video they showed for the future of TellMe that looks as good as (or better) than Siri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-3XWl4srng
Comparing apples and hand-grenades.
You really have to be a fanboy to make a comparison here. With Kinect you have to use registered words like "Xbox Play Game" whereas you just talk to Siri. Can we end the thread here please?
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You really have to be a fanboy to make a comparison here. With Kinect you have to use registered words like "Xbox Play Game" whereas you just talk to Siri. Can we end the thread here please?
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Nah, he just didn't understand the different products. He's right
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Here is a video they showed for the future of TellMe that looks as good as (or better) than Siri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-3XWl4srng
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Just to keep things in perspective, taken directly from the description of that video:
Please note this video depicts a vision and does *not* make any product-specific commitments.
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So, it may be one possible future implementation of TellMe, or it may never happen at all.
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You really have to be a fanboy to make a comparison here. With Kinect you have to use registered words like "Xbox Play Game" whereas you just talk to Siri. Can we end the thread here please?
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Never knew about Microsoft TellMe, it is definitely something that would compare to Siri.
Peew, are you indirectly saying that there would never be a competition with what siri is offering right now? This thread is mainly to see what WP7 can come up with that would contend with Siri, cuz obviously thats some technology that would cause some waves (if any) for iPhone 4s.
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I don't really think that's an accurate reflection of the state of Microsoft's tech when it comes to voice and visual recognition. They were showing natural language usage while interacting with an AI in tech demos for Kinect back in 2009, when it was still called Project Natal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g_U02Pz0P4
Just because they don't use it much in the current released XBox interface (which already has a replacement in beta testing) doesn't mean the system is incapable of it. I'd be willing to bet that they have some working models with the in-house TellMe systems that could challenge what Siri does with natural language processing.
Thank you!
See this review for WP7.5 speech recognition:
http://youtu.be/YmsSk4bYNao
You can use it not only with built-in commands, there is also natural language recognition, which can be used e.g. for texting.
I always liked MS voice command. **** was awesome.
WP7.5 Mango incorporates most of what Siri offers.
I'm not sure if Siri is integrated in iOS5 in the same way MS integrates it into Mango.
I don't think you've seen the Siri demo to say something like that.
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That whole project natal conference was more at a concept stage than anything, a lot of what was shown can't actually be done. Now I'm not saying Microsoft can't come up with something new but you can't go and compare Kinect and Siri.
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I don't really think that's an accurate reflection of the state of Microsoft's tech when it comes to voice and visual recognition. They were showing natural language usage while interacting with an AI in tech demos for Kinect back in 2009, when it was still called Project Natal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g_U02Pz0P4
Just because they don't use it much in the current released XBox interface (which already has a replacement in beta testing) doesn't mean the system is incapable of it. I'd be willing to bet that they have some working models with the in-house TellMe systems that could challenge what Siri does with natural language processing.
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I don't think you've seen the Siri demo to say something like that.
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ya, i was scratching my head after his comment too. no comparison.
While I agree that Siri does look very impressive, it too was just a demo, albeit a demo of a final product. But I will reserve my final judgment of Siri vs Mango Voice vs Kinect until the iPhone 4s is in the hands of consumers and we can see some real world comparisons.
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You can use it not only with built-in commands, there is also natural language recognition, which can be used e.g. for texting.
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There's no natural language recognition on WP7; it's just voice commands with extra options that can be tacked on at the end, same as the ones on Android.
Siri is an order of magnitude more complex, as this (admittedly extremely fan-boyish!) article explains:
http://applenewsdaily.posterous.com/whats-so-great-about-siri
the only difference between siri and tellme is that siri actually exists and works. No offence to MS but they've never made a successful voice command interface. Even WP7's simple commands will only work if I mimic an american accent. I think MS's problem is that they don't think internationally, nearly all the good features of Zune are limited to teh US and canada, that's just not the way to grow in any international market!
So you have seen someone using Siri in the real world with an English accent?
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Nah, he just didn't understand the different products. He's right
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I think the most laughable thing about this comparison is that one is just built into the product, the other requires a $249+ game system+ addon (depending on SKU you get for the XB360).
Ok well a guy I work with has a Samsung Focus, pretty decent device. BTW this is the only person I know that has a windows phone. ATT gave him the Focus free because of him having problems with his previous dumb phone. That was nice of ATT.
So recently this guy told me that the Focus has been giving him problems of late and he is hating it, like when he opens the camera and press the camera button the phone restarts.
So another guy I work with sold him an iphone 3g as a backup. So he goes home and plays with a non activated iphone 3g and he is wowed by the 3g. He told me how he downloaded apps and the phone was so fun without it even being activated. Now he wants an iphone which is fine because WP didnt win him over. They lost a user by ATT even giving him the WP device for free.
One thing I have noticed is that people tend to follow the fad. Siri is nice, which makes Tellme have a lot of work to do. I stand behind Windows Phone and will continue to. Everyone I know either are a Android or iphone user besides my cousin who is still a Symbian user but im slowly converting him over to Windows phone with the Nokia device.
My question is, how will WP overcome the competition or will they ever. They have a long way to go keeping up with the competition and passing them up. What will Windows offer that will appeal to more users? How will Windows wow people?
I have a kid that had an iPhone 3GS and Apple swapped her 3GS *FIVE* times, because all of them would either reboot, drop service, etc, etc. Got her an HTC Surround and she loves it. Couple weeks ago she dropped her surround and cracked the display. I asked her if she wanted to switch back to using her iPhone 3GS and she said "not thanks, I'd rather user this one with a cracked screen than my iPhone".
Molly Wood obviously got a problematic HTC Trohpy when she did her review, as she said it rebooted once to twice a day. Anyone who has a Windows Phone 7 knows that they are very stable and if you have one with issues, its probably HW related. The iPhone is considered a fairly stable platform, yet you hear problems all the time of stability and signal issues. All platforms have hardware issues and its how the carriers and OEM deal with this is really what is the big impact.
I have an InfiniTV that has never had an issue, yet I ordered one for a friend and his stops working every once in a while. Again, probably bad hardware.
My best friend works for AT&T as a floor sales person and I was talking to him about Windows Phone. He said the reason that he doesn't push them is that they have a high return rate. I asked him if it was because the OS is poor or that it was different from Android and iOS and he said he didn't really know.
I was showing a good friend of mine my focus yesterday and he really liked it. However, when he went into T-Mobile, he got an Android "because it was cheap and did what he needed". Both of my kids have Windows Phone and all of their friends with Android and iPhones say they wish they had a Windows Phone. None of them have switched, though.
And Siri? Lets just say "No Sir-e". Android, iPhone and Windows Phone all have voice commands. When was the last time you saw someone use them? Probably sames answer as when was the last time you saw someone else with a Windows Phone.... Voice commands are cool, but not actually used much, yet?
Different people have different views about how to use their phone.
Siri is a nice feature, but you don't use it all the time.
I bet 99% people here used to love playing around with Voice Features when it first came out, but then they find themselves hardly use it. I know i did.
People would find themsleves a suitable device and OS, because it really depends on how they use it, how much they have, which features they want, and how it helps their life. Everone has a different taste, just like when you say the HD2 is too big and then a lot of people still love it.
You never expected the phone gonna answer you the whole thing you throw to it, so don't depend on it, they don't have a human brain to reconize everything we said from slang... pros vocabs and a supersmart and large database to give you the answer. Just pull it out from your pocket, spend 5s to type it in Bing Search doesn't make your world end. And it isn't always suitable to speak to the phone, some craps like "i need a bathroom" you will never speak it in front of people... most people prefer to deal with it by their own and in silent.
WP7 has Microsoft TellMe, but i hardly use it, mostly, i just enable it to read messege for me when i play games "in my own room".
But i agree, Tellme need to be upgraded, and Microsoft just published a new video about it. Look impressive to me.
I am no fan of apple product, but siri seems to have some real potential. At the release, people are disappointed because they thought it was just voice control. But actually I think it's not. Controlling the phone with voice is not a brand new idea, just like touch screen was not brand new when iphone was released. I might be wrong, but I feel Google and Microsoft will be following up on this idea.
If you hear about more people with iPhone issues than WP7 issues, it might be due to the fact that there are about 30 times as many iPhones as there are WP7 devices in circulation.
And I think is just a bit disingenuous to put the voice command features of WP7 and Android in the same league as Siri (not directed at you, resol341). Yes, they will get there, but they aren't there today. They aren't even close.
I agree, voice features are nice to have, but all I use on my Titan is the read out text thing when in the car ( which is very useful), thing is though Siri just looks really neat and will impress people enough that it will significantly add to the reasons to buy an iPhone. Microsoft is still playing catch up even after mango, they need to overhaul the competion with some killer features if they want to get mindshare, time is limited.
From another thread.
I had a friendly WP7 vs Siri Face-off today at work. It was actually pretty funny. I can't remember everything that was said, but it did involve:
"Naked Football Statistics" (WP) weather reports of Clear during a thunderstorm (Siri), Escorts to the Vikings-Bears game (WP), I can't answer that or I don't know what you mean every other question (Siri), "There are no nearby adult services" (Siri) and "Bubble, Bladder shoe powder" (WP).
Not to mention... WP won't cuss when sending a text. Gives you, "No [email protected]!" instead of No ****. Siri will cuss. And, Siri read that obscured expletive as, "Dollar sign at".
Siri also didn't know what my co-worker meant by LMFAO. WP sends lol as L-o-l. But, if it receives it as lol, it says, "laugh out loud". While siri says, "Lawl".
We spent about 30 minutes doing this as we weren't too busy. It was pretty funny all the crazy stuff coming from the two platforms.
They both got a lot of things right and did pretty well but they definitely got things wrong. Overall, they turned out to be roughly the same in their understanding of spoken phrases and repeating said phrases.
In the end, Siri's biggest advantage was that it has more commands at its disposal than Windows Phone allowing some context in questions and search. Whereas, windows phone is fairly straight forward and has less commands. That being said, believe it or not, they're fairly equal in capabilities.
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From another thread.
I had a friendly WP7 vs Siri Face-off today at work. It was actually pretty funny. I can't remember everything that was said, but it did involve:
"Naked Football Statistics" (WP) weather reports of Clear during a thunderstorm (Siri), Escorts to the Vikings-Bears game (WP), I can't answer that or I don't know what you mean every other question (Siri), "There are no nearby adult services" (Siri) and "Bubble, Bladder shoe powder" (WP).
Not to mention... WP won't cuss when sending a text. Gives you, "No [email protected]!" instead of No ****. Siri will cuss. And, Siri read that obscured expletive as, "Dollar sign at".
Siri also didn't know what my co-worker meant by LMFAO. WP sends lol as L-o-l. But, if it receives it as lol, it says, "laugh out loud". While siri says, "Lawl".
We spent about 30 minutes doing this as we weren't too busy. It was pretty funny all the crazy stuff coming from the two platforms.
They both got a lot of things right and did pretty well but they definitely got things wrong. Overall, they turned out to be roughly the same in their understanding of spoken phrases and repeating said phrases.
In the end, Siri's biggest advantage was that it has more commands at its disposal than Windows Phone allowing some context in questions and search. Whereas, windows phone is fairly straight forward and has less commands. That being said, believe it or not, they're fairly equal in capabilities.
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Then i would say Siri has more command but Bing on Windows Phone is a smart searching engine.
The title has nothing to do with the actual thread as from the story the guy was wowed by an iPhone 3G so that has nothing to do with Siri.
This is the real issue... Even without Siri people would still go and buy the iPhone 4S, that has nothing to do with voice command.
Windows Phone is great, the UI is smooth, it rarely crashes (well except on HTC phones it seems) and integrates social quite well. However for most people, once the first 2-3 weeks are gone the novelty comes from apps and games and these are not there on WP. If you need a particular app for your phone, you will definitely find it on iOS and will probably find it on Android. It's very unlikely you will find it on WP unless it's a very popular app and even then there's no guarantee. A typical conversation between a WP an a android/iPhone user goes like this:
- Let me call you, do you have skype?
- It's not available yet (no one cares if it's "coming")
- How about Tango?
- Not there either but I have WhatsApp
- Alright, fine
- Do you have "X" app? It's pretty great
- Nope
- How about "X" game? It will blow you away
- Neither but I do have Xbox Live on my phone
- Cool, I have an Xbox 360, what games do you get on the phone?
- (better not to mention)
Rince and repeat the last bit with facebook and Zune. It's nice to have if you're into these things but it's not groundbreaking.
Most people get their phone on a 2 years contract, they don't want a phone that's just nice and promises more apps and games, they can just get that phone in 2 years time!
I was definitely going to recommend WP to my friends after Mango but the truth is there hasn't been an app or game worth downloading in 2 or 3 months so once the novelty wears off they would be pretty bored. My girlfriend has been playing 3 different Angry Birds games on her Nexus S lately and she got them all for free. She has dozens of apps that don't exist on WP so I can't possibly push her towards the platform. Same goes for my gamer friends who have tons of great games on their iPhone. Windows Phone could have competed on price but now you can get an iPhone 3GS for free or an iPhone 4 for 99$ so you would need seriously good arguments.
So all in all the issue isn't just Siri impressing people, it's also Microsoft not having a "Siri feature", i.e. a feature that makes you go "I want that phone".
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If you hear about more people with iPhone issues than WP7 issues, it might be due to the fact that there are about 30 times as many iPhones as there are WP7 devices in circulation.
And I think is just a bit disingenuous to put the voice command features of WP7 and Android in the same league as Siri (not directed at you, resol341). Yes, they will get there, but they aren't there today. They aren't even close.
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Has microsoft finally released sales figures for wp7, or is this speculation ? 30:1 seems quite high on the wp side.
No the guy wants a 4s. The guy who sold him the 3g upgraded to the 4s and he saw that. He doesn't want the 3g as his primary.
Lets be real the only reason the 4s is selling crazy like it is because of the iPhone reputation and siri. No one cares about the dual core and obviously a bigger screen didn't matter wither in which plenty of people gripped about.
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No the guy wants a 4s. The guy who sold him the 3g upgraded to the 4s and he saw that. He doesn't want the 3g as his primary.
Lets be real the only reason the 4s is selling crazy like it is because of the iPhone reputation and siri. No one cares about the dual core and obviously a bigger screen didn't matter wither in which plenty of people gripped about.
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Most people buy the iPhone for its status symbol... they want to be in line for 4 days, show off their brand new iPhone and use about 1% of its abilities.
You do have a number of geeks, nerds and power users that make the best of a great smartphone like the iPhone, but the majority of them are just sheep, that buy into a trent or very well marketed brand (where MS needs to seriously catch up).
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No the guy wants a 4s. The guy who sold him the 3g upgraded to the 4s and he saw that. He doesn't want the 3g as his primary.
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It doesn't matter. The point is when he tried an iPhone he knew he wanted that. Now he wants the 4S most likely because it's the latest iPhone but his choice of OS was already made so this has nothing to do with Siri to start with.
4 million in 3 days is freaking amazing.
The biggest let down around here, has become the highest selling.
Remember we don't need dual cores, stupid app launcher OS, and only one device with a small screen.
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4 million in 3 days is freaking amazing.
The biggest let down around here, has become the highest selling.
Remember we don't need dual cores, stupid app launcher OS, and only one device with a small screen.
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It is impressive, but not unexpected. Now that Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T all have the iPhone, it's a guaranteed record breaker.
In all honesty though, who really cares? I prefer to have what I think is best for me. I do not care what anyone else thinks of my phone. I do go through phones quickly because I am addicted to technology and just like to keep up with it. I would never buy a phone so that I can prove to the world how cool I am.
I think Siri is great technology (even if Apple didn't really develop it). I also know that it is something I would only use when trying to impress others. I am not one to broadcast what I am doing on my phone out loud. There are few scenarios where voice control would appeal to me. But, this technology is important and needs to continue developing and improving.
I tried Siri in my natural language (Italian) and it couldn't even place a phone call or open an application. I didn't read any manual about it, but it tried saying phrases like "Call <Name>" or "text <someone>" or "open mail" or "search for <thing>". And it never worked!
Never had such problem with WP7.5, except for once when I tried to "search for GLEE" and it opened Bing searching for "teen ass" :-/
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You're kidding, right?
Can you schedule an appointment or set a location-specific reminder with WP7's voice commands?
Sure, WP7 can find a few things on Bing searches, but that is only a small part of Siri. It is integrated into the OS on a much deeper level than Tellme, and can do a lot more. They are not fairly equal.
No, sir. I'm not kidding. Fairly equal doesn't mean exactly equal. Siri can do a few more things than WP can do as I stated. But, having watched/listened to the tech firsthand, it doesn't do a ton more than WP does. I'm not saying it isn't better I'm just saying it isn't overwhelmingly superior as some believe.
My post above was anecdotal and not really a comparison of which was better. It was more me dwelling on the humorous things that both of the services came up with when asked to do certain tasks. Siri may have more commands but it's understanding of what a user is saying doesn't really surpass WP per se.
But, just for you, Robodad ... when I go back to work tomorrow, I'll play with it some more and see if we missed something. Although, she had me playing a game of Words with Friends against her brother-in-law. So, Siri experimentation might take a backseat.
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That being said, believe it or not, they're fairly equal in capabilities.
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I played with both, there is no comparison.
Also, day to day usage is a big plus, as far as voice commands go. Its possible to navigate to a friends house, txt them you're on the way, and check traffic without much hassle. Pretty badass from a phone.
Where's that speach to text video that was so laughable not long ago....
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I tried Siri in my natural language (Italian) and it couldn't even place a phone call or open an application. I didn't read any manual about it, but it tried saying phrases like "Call <Name>" or "text <someone>" or "open mail" or "search for <thing>". And it never worked!
Never had such problem with WP7.5, except for once when I tried to "search for GLEE" and it opened Bing searching for "teen ass" :-/
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That's why i love Bing/TellMe/windows phone, it knows what i want
Has anyone tried using speaktoit from the market?
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use iris
it's cool
I tried iris I think speaktoit is better
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why do people think siri is cool? its talking to a machine!
generation of mobile phone using assholes.
1. first mobile phone users with large handsets out in public
2. people wearing a suit walking around talking loudly into their handset all the time
3. business people adopting this more by carrying around a briefcase with nokia ringtone
4. use of bluetooth headsets, business people talking loudly in public but actually speaking on the phone as if they are SOOO important they need to talk whilst shopping
5. Siri comes along replacing the need for someone to actually talk to whilst you look like a **** walking around with your bluetooth headset in talking to your phone and getting updates on weather and calendar notifications....
Siri just seems so stupid and dumb to me, mobile phones should be personal rather then broadcasted telling your phone what to text or email...
am i the only one who thinks this?
Speak to it works ok, still kinda weak... For example I tell it to text bob what's up, and it writes bob what's up versus google built in would choose bob as the contact. Speak to it wants you to manually select the contact and hit send. So basically it just translated your speech, not very smart. But it is in beta! Has lots of potential especially the personality it has, but it needs more integration, automation, and maybe different voices. Plus a way to activate it without bringing up the app our widget and hitting the mic button.
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Speak to it works ok, still kinda weak... For example I tell it to text bob what's up, and it writes bob what's up versus google built in would choose bob as the contact. Speak to it wants you to manually select the contact and hit send. So basically it just translated your speech, not very smart. But it is in beta! Has lots of potential especially the personality it has, but it needs more integration, automation, and maybe different voices. Plus a way to activate it without bringing up the app our widget and hitting the mic button.
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yeah, it would really need to be integrated into the OS really to work as well as apple's does. but again... like most apple stuff, its gimmicky and worthless to most.
to be fair, it did play with they for an hour last night. its okay maybe if youre driving but really other than that.... stupid.
I'm using Voice Actions, I find it to be somewhat useful. Its like having another shortcut to get things opened and done. I installed a Loquendo voice so that it sounds better.
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penfold1992 said:
why do people think siri is cool? its talking to a machine!
generation of mobile phone using assholes.
1. first mobile phone users with large handsets out in public
2. people wearing a suit walking around talking loudly into their handset all the time
3. business people adopting this more by carrying around a briefcase with nokia ringtone
4. use of bluetooth headsets, business people talking loudly in public but actually speaking on the phone as if they are SOOO important they need to talk whilst shopping
5. Siri comes along replacing the need for someone to actually talk to whilst you look like a **** walking around with your bluetooth headset in talking to your phone and getting updates on weather and calendar notifications....
Siri just seems so stupid and dumb to me, mobile phones should be personal rather then broadcasted telling your phone what to text or email...
am i the only one who thinks this?
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Completely agree. I foresee Apple starting a whole new wave of people yelling at their phones (not talking to a person over the phone, but talking TO the phone) in libraries, at the movies, and other places where they should otherwise keep their mouths shut.
'Uhhh, look at meeee! Imz soo sexi wit ma nuu iPhony-speakin app!'
I've tried Iris but i'm not really sastisfied with this app
Siri like apps are a nice feature but nobody needs them and I would never pay for such an app.
the problem is that "apple" now seems to be cool when really at least imo apple always seem to be a bit.... unfinished.
as a pc user mainly i find apple products very unnatural and bulky. I own a ipod touch and i want the music on my ipod to look identical to what it does on itunes, why is that so difficult for you itunes? its little things like this that make apple not worth bothering...
back to the subject, because "apple" is "cool" it means the majority of the blind dumb sided public just inject what ever gimmick that apple throws at them directly into their veins. When using an iphone i never once thought..."you know what the problem is here... i cant put a notification in my diary about when i want to eat dinner with my mum... i wish my phone knew who my mum was so i could ask to call mum and it will dial her" i usually think of issues like "why is their camera so bad in day light, i dont want to take better quality night photos thats like giving me a nice smelling **** to hold... no matter what it smells like i dont want to hold the thing! Besides why doesnt my ipod tunes look EXACTYLY LIKE IT DOES ON ITUNES!"
what about... why cant i see some simple things on my home screen like unread emails or weather widgets? and as a user of the ipod i feel treated like a brick... once i take the ipod out of its box im very restricted with what i can do, there are no customisation options that are of any intrest
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Has anyone tried using speaktoit from the market?
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Why did this post get soooooooooooo far away from the original question? Not a lot of help here for the person who posted. I too am somewhat interested in an app like this for my own reasons but I don't feel it deserves other folks telling me why I shouldn't want/need an app like this. This is a great website with a lot of great, helpful folks who I very much appreciate so, does anyone have anything "constructive" to add as a response to the original question?
I just use the built-in Voice Search. Does a majority of what Siri does, and has the advantage of having been out significantly longer. Amusing to use 'navigate to' or 'listen to' and have an iDrone comment on how fast Google 'stole' Siri.
Voice Actions is OK, and Jeannie is decent aside from a HUGE amount of spin-up time and a tendency to take over for the A2DP 'play' function.
Been a while, and I'm sure a few updates to the app since this thread started but Speak To It is pretty good.
Our G2s have the search button on the buttom right of the screen; this button can be set up to access the app, so no need to have the widget up or start the app.
When you access the app via the search button , its more Siri -like as in you don't see the Avatar but the app otherwise works as it normally does
I love how it gives you witty responses too like if you ask it does it smoke or if it's in love for example LOL
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Has anyone tried using speaktoit from the market?
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I've used Vlingo....not too bad actually. Give it a try
Take a look at Utter
I know the OP was from last year, but i just came across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508195&highlight=utter
Utter
I can't wait, hope it releases soon.
Siri cracked to work on Android, WP7!
Is there anyone here that would like to tackle this?
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Siri cracked to work on Android, WP7!
Is there anyone here that would like to tackle this?
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interesting read, would be a cool homebrew tool to have
I am sure that there would not be to much code to handle but you would require an iphone 4S for the use of the application as every request is bound to your iPhones UUID and Apple will much likely ban the UUID if it is used on somewhat, lets say 1000 devices
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muahaha lol great
Am i the only one that doesn't care about siri? Other than showing off to other people, what use does it have?
I admit the reminder feature is pretty efficient but other than that, why can't you press the search key and type your question?
especially since you're probably going to have to ask your question multiple times for it to get it right.
Nah, lets not. Not interested in that feature at all.
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Am i the only one that doesn't care about siri? Other than showing off to other people, what use does it have?
I admit the reminder feature is pretty efficient but other than that, why can't you press the search key and type your question?
especially since you're probably going to have to ask your question multiple times for it to get it right.
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Stupid name too (siri). Same with iPhone, iPad, isuck, etc. 90% of the itards probably don't even know what the i means.
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Not impressed
I actually got to play with siri on a friends iPhone yesterday and I was really not that impressed, its cool and all but it couldn't pick up certain nick names in contact lists that my WP7 could (we have common friends so some of our contacts match)
There are other things its clearly superior at, but for me at least I use the speech to text function for work while driving and I need it to be accurate or I will be ripping my hair out.
I'm confused - I thought Siri was just a copy of the voice commands already available on Android and WP7? That's what I keep hearing - that is doesn't add anything new, it's just a rip-off, it doesn't work well, our voice commands work better anyway etc etc.
So what exactly is the point of porting it?
The "new" Features are that Siri is a chatbot combined with Voice Recognition Software. You can ask siri if you would need an umbrella and it interprets that question as "will it rain today", checks up the weather for your Location and tells you that it wont rain trough the sentence lets say "no, you can safely let your umbrella at home."
There also is the fun part of it - that most chatbots do have aswell. If you ask Siri if it wants to marry you, it will tell you that its single user license does not allow marriage or partnership with human beeings.
Thats all the fuzz about it
It's the chatbot function that I'm intrested in. I like the idea of the device understanding your input and responding intelligently. I know it's just fluff but I like fluff so sue me. lol
As far as voice recognition and speech to text functions I'm perfectly happy with what WP devices can do.
As far as i need, i'd add the "navigate to somewhere" voice command only in order to start either bing maps or 5$ navigation turn by turn app
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As far as i need, i'd add the "navigate to somewhere" voice command only in order to start either bing maps or 5$ navigation turn by turn app
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Here is my social observation for the day:
It is amazing when we watch SciFi movies that depict a society where man interacts with machine on a personal level and we leave with a sense of disbelieve remarking "oh, that would never happen!" only to see it unfold in our society today.
Fifteen years ago if you wanted to get into contact with someone you called them on the telephone. The telephone was the natural progression to sending a written message, whether it be by carrier pidgeon or US Postal Service. Facebook chat is not a natural progression. Yes, it is more efficient, but if we were all about efficiency we would never be taking reading material into the restroom. We would not spend 4 hours inside a building, playing terrible music at deafening volumes, paying $6 for watered down alcoholic beverages to meet what is likely to be an incompatible mate.
Why on earth would someone prefer to say "Do I need my Umbrella today?" as opposed to simply saying "Weather" or clicking on the weather icon/app/widget? Are we so distance from human interaction that we need to make friends with our phones?
Life must really suck when the highlight of the day includes asking a phone for a good knock-knock joke.
Because "Do I need an umbrella today?" is more natural than yelling "Weather" at someone. Saying just "Weather" is jerky and weird. Saying "Siri, weather" might make more sense in public since someone will most likely understand you are talking to your device. But we are encouraged to not prelude with "Siri", we are encouraged to talk to it like a human, because it's what we already know.
Exactly. People tend to think in conversational thought fragments, even when not speaking. The appeal of Siri is that you don't need to make any conscious distinction between how you naturally think and speak, and the command syntax required by the device. They are one and the same.
Sorry if that "sucks" for some people but, well, that's life.
karan1203 said:
Am i the only one that doesn't care about siri? Other than showing off to other people, what use does it have?
I admit the reminder feature is pretty efficient but other than that, why can't you press the search key and type your question?
especially since you're probably going to have to ask your question multiple times for it to get it right.
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It has a lot of use. You obviously have not used it for any decent amount of time, or been around someone who does.
Also, Siri's voice recognition accuracy is beyond what preceeding offerings provided. It uses the best of Nuance.
While I think it's a "cool" feature, I wouldn't see myself using full sentences with my phone. The reason I love WinPhone so much is because of the ease of one glance, one word ("answer"/"ignore") and easy search. Though, having an option of both worlds would be great, if TellMe acted identically to Siri, you'd be seeing greatly different reactions here, and I mean towards the negative spectrum.
I have to agree with nick in that I prefer to say "Weather" or "WeatherLive" than to have to ask questions. I currently answer my phone with my voice, I honestly don't care if I look crazy to my surroundings lol. Siri, while amazingly cool because it brings HAL into your world, is more of a marketing ploy than an actual feature, like having it say it was at the spa when the servers disastrously crashed. There was a thread that made comparisons to Kinect when it came out, and people criticized Kinect because it did the same thing (or was capable of it) but used short-words rather than a conversation approach, which I thought was crazy.
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RoboDad, my attempt at humour may have been misplaced; I did not intend to offend. The Apple ads are portraying the iPhone as a companion, just like Fiya is suggesting. When a phone becomes a companion then I believe we have extreme societal issues. I already believe the social networking era is a plague.
I get the point about naturally speaking to the phone to simulate regular conversation, but for the exact same reason I do not want to have to say "I'm making a left turn at the next intersection" to have my car turn on the appropriate indicator light, is the exact same reason why I do not want to say "Precious, will I be able to play golf on saturday?"
Is there substance in asking a phone to marry its user? Or if one needs an umbrella? Is asking for an umbrella vs what the weather is like (so rain is the only type of inclimental weather?) an effective question?
Android - Swipe to unlock. Look at weather widget. Oh I need an umbrella.
Windows Phone - Swipe to unlock. Look at weather tile. Oh I need an umbrella.
Seems to me like its another play with your phone addon. If someone wants a phone that they can socially interact with autonomously then Siri makes sense. To me the idea is nonsense.
And how am I supposed to start a conversation with the pretty girl in the sexy jogging outfit that does laps in the park every morning at 5:30am while I am on the bench drinking a beer?
"Think it will rain tomorrow?"
"Go ask Siri you creep!"
''go ask SIRI, you creep...''
What's all the hype with SIRI? How come this feature ( really old) became mother of all trolls in one overnight?
The big step everybody is praising is not the IoS but the Apple servers that do the ''contextual'' recognition. The app itself just relays some bits to the servers...and articulates the answer back to the iEars...
Afaik, FBI and Homeland Sec had this contextual recognition running for millions of calls a decade ago...just like XP Tablet Edition was running then, InkSeine -from MS also- had gestures in 2006.
Siri is just the latest item on the ''newly invented, breaktrought, blah-blah-blah'' list, preceded by out-of-this-world ( some prefer to call them miracles) features: touchscreen, swipe-to-unlock, camera on the phone, front camera on a phone, videocall, 3G,....