Overclock, it means to get about 806mhz, and successful overclock means to run the CPU smoothly and fast on 806mhz. Some roms support the overclock, some don't and other roms say they can not overclock with 806mhz but with 787mhz because of getting frezzed, rebooted and so on. But if you look clearer on the CPU and look at time in spare or with the app CPU spy you can easily see that the values 787 and 768 don't run a percent of the whole time. This means they even run with stock speed 600MHz. It even show you first that the CPU run so fast and bla bla.. If someone tell you to run the CPU not with 806mhz because of freezing, graphic glitches don't believe it, if you change it to 767 or something like that it will run with just 600MHz.
That's life dudes, so don't believe everything you see or hear and be carefully
Regards Matteo
Model: Wildfire S A510e
Recovery: unofficial CWM
Rom: JxMatteo_ROM_V1. 1 with Link2sd - OC - Rooted
i was told that overclocking could reduce the life of your wfs.
this is the reason why i dont overclock.
i did it once and 3d games started showing glitches.
i would recommend ppl to test and read first before setting it to 700-800mhz.
thats just my oppinion.
I know that all of the cdma oc kernels are absolutely stable at 806. I have indeed never heard of a properly flashed kernel freezing under oc in the wfs. (admittedly I don't read the gsm threads too much) And as to shortening the life if the phone, if you plan on keeping it for like 5 years then sure, it might. But your not going to. Your battery on the other hand...
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BigChillin said:
I know that all of the cdma oc kernels are absolutely stable at 806. I have indeed never heard of a properly flashed kernel freezing under oc in the wfs. (admittedly I don't read the gsm threads too much) And as to shortening the life if the phone, if you plan on keeping it for like 5 years then sure, it might. But your not going to. Your battery on the other hand...
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I agree.
The freezing I wouldn't put down to kernel's.
More likely to be the processor.
Same with desktop processors, you can't expect every one of them to perform the same.
Because one is a great overclocker it doesn't mean that they all will be.
just because they are the same processor, they came from a different yield which may have been better or worse.
By the way I've been running mine at 806 for over 3 months or more with no ill effects.
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don't believe everything you see or hear and be carefully
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Words to live by...
My phone starts glitching in 3d as soon as I clock my CPU higher then 600. Screen turns purple in benchmarks.. so no overclock for me.
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VitanyLTD said:
My phone starts glitching in 3d as soon as I clock my CPU higher then 600. Screen turns purple in benchmarks.. so no overclock for me.
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The reason ist often the wrong rom for overclock. I tried to overclock CM7 to but without look, now I did my own rom and here it goes antutu benchmark about 1700
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I run my wfs on 122/768MHz w/o any problems... On CM 7.2 ...
And its not going to shorten life of device for like idk how long... Phone uses 768 only sometimes, when needed and not all the time... So its not such a stress to a cpu.
But i saw one guy for example, complaining that his phone was hot when he turn off or something, and he did overclock to 768/806... so he is constantly running it over 600MHz... I just wan't to see what will happen in few months or...
I have overclocked my phone with m1ndh4x8r's rom.
It running at 245-806mhz with smartass2 governor.
It runs about 10 days now, with absolutely no problem or freezes.
And after of 3-4 hours of constantly use (browsing games), it just gets barely warmer.
That's my 5 cent
My phone currently run with 787/200 with SetCPU and several custom profiles: 320/120 screen off, 480/200 in call, temp>48,batt<15.
With 806 get some visual glitches, but on 787 it run more than 4 hours of stress test in SetCPU.
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My phone currently run with 787/200 with SetCPU and several custom profiles: 320/120 screen off, 480/200 in call, temp>48,batt<15.
With 806 get some visual glitches, but on 787 it run more than 4 hours of stress test in SetCPU.
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Did you read my post dude? I don't think so, if you take the values 787 it will run with just 600! First read the post than answer another thing is that 48°C were absolutely to hot! Overlocking should not be just like a game, it's a science.!
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LOL
Overclocked rom perform better than stock 600/400 even in phone shell itself, removing visual lags. Try and you will see it.
And there are still games..
With such reasons there are no need to buy new CPU for desktop because 99% of time it idling
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Overlocking should not be just like a game, it's a science.!
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Ofc, and you will need to interpret and understand results, just like "real" science
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Did you read my post dude? I don't think so, if you take the values 787 it will run with just 600! First read the post than answer another thing is that 48°C were absolutely to hot! Overlocking should not be just like a game, it's a science.!
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matt5eo, that info you posted isn't 100% accurate. Overclocking is in fact a science and if you rise the CPU speed, a benchmark should present better results. Right? So let's see some science applied.
I just did a simple test on m1ndh4x8r GB 2.3.5 ROM (updated kernel), with No Frills CPU Control and Quadrant Standard.
320/600, performance, sio score: 762
320/768, performance, sio score: 879
320/787, performance, sio score: 890
320/806, performance, sio score: 925
320/600, performance, noop score: 769
320/768, performance, noop score: 851
320/787, performance, noop score: 889
320/806, performance, noop score: 929
320/600, interactive, noop score: 742
320/768, interactive, noop score: 871
320/787, interactive, noop score: 885
320/806, interactive, noop score: 908
320/600, smartass2, noop score: 712
320/768, smartass2, noop score: 860
320/787, smartass2, noop score: 872
320/806, smartass2, noop score: 898
I couldn't test the other governors now because I ran out of battery...
Anyway it's a waste of time because as we can see the score rises consistently with the selected CPU speed.
The CPU speed used at a given time depends a lot on the governor and on the I/O scheduler you choose.
From what I saw the governor can make the huge difference between the CPU speed increases and decreases. With the performance and interactive governors Quadrant showed the real clock at which the CPU was running (on System Information) and it was consistent with the maximum clock I selected on No Frills CPU Control.
When I selected 787MHz, the actual speed was in fact 787MHz and not 600MHz like you say. The same happened with the other clocks (600, 768, 806).
So what you write might apply to some kernels but definitely not to all.
I don't have the time to put nice screen captures here but I certainly have no interest in inventing scores and contradicting someone just for fun.
Just wanted to let you know my results.
This is off topic but i'll write it here anyway.
I don't have enough posts to post on your thread on JxMatteo_ROM_V1.1.
Thank you for the rom, it's very good.
I was about to get rid of this phone and buy another until HTC unlocked bootloader, your rom made my phone perfect.
Like the font also. Is there some way to change font to something else?
Been wanting to try the Airwolf font, might be cool...
Tested it on my WFS, it was useless!
Lykkis said:
This is off topic but i'll write it here anyway.
I don't have enough posts to post on your thread on JxMatteo_ROM_V1.1.
Thank you for the rom, it's very good.
I was about to get rid of this phone and buy another until HTC unlocked bootloader, your rom made my phone perfect.
Like the font also. Is there some way to change font to something else?
Been wanting to try the Airwolf font, might be cool...
Tested it on my WFS, it was useless!
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Hello dear Lykkis
I see that you like it very much, It makes me happy to read lines like this anyway thanks for the feedback
In my next update you will be able to choose every font you want, and also every themes you want on your JxMatteo ROM!
PS. JxMatteo V1.2 will make your phone more than perfect
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e with JxMatteo_ROM
Have a quick go at this people - run an oc kernal such as CM7 or something and overclock to 806mhz. For a few hours, do it.
Then switch off your phone. Remove the battery and SMELL IT. SMELL it like you mean it. I'm telling you SMELL it, FEEL it. It smells like one of those electric car toys and it feels relatively hot. I can smell it immediately, I don't even have to go close to the phone. a little scary tbh. however, my phone has had no problems at all, God forbid on 806mhz, so I leave it at that.
I don't think it's that bad for your phone's lifetime, as most of us will not own this for more than two or three years, I'm sure. It might even be healther at times to underclock the CPU most of the time when not using it. This must balance out the effects, right?
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Have a quick go at this people - run an oc kernal such as CM7 or something and overclock to 806mhz. For a few hours, do it.
Then switch off your phone. Remove the battery and SMELL IT. SMELL it like you mean it. I'm telling you SMELL it, FEEL it. It smells like one of those electric car toys and it feels relatively hot. I can smell it immediately, I don't even have to go close to the phone. a little scary tbh. however, my phone has had no problems at all, God forbid on 806mhz, so I leave it at that.
I don't think it's that bad for your phone's lifetime, as most of us will not own this for more than two or three years, I'm sure. It might even be healther at times to underclock the CPU most of the time when not using it. This must balance out the effects, right?
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I know what you are talking about, I also run my JxM ROM with 806mhz and I have to say that everything works fine, without smelling like sh**
I like developing, and I also like overclock kernels, but with the wrong ussage you won't see what we see, we see a great project in it and also a chance to speed up our devices
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Lykkis said:
This is off topic but i'll write it here anyway.
I don't have enough posts to post on your thread on JxMatteo_ROM_V1.1.
Thank you for the rom, it's very good.
I was about to get rid of this phone and buy another until HTC unlocked bootloader, your rom made my phone perfect.
Like the font also. Is there some way to change font to something else?
Been wanting to try the Airwolf font, might be cool...
Tested it on my WFS, it was useless!
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you can change font by making you own theme, with UOT KITCHEN.
if you lest say want just to change font, just choose font change, no need for anything else, and it will update theme with only font ... you have it all in how to ... good luck.
miguelca said:
matt5eo, that info you posted isn't 100% accurate. Overclocking is in fact a science and if you rise the CPU speed, a benchmark should present better results. Right? So let's see some science applied.
I just did a simple test on m1ndh4x8r GB 2.3.5 ROM (updated kernel), with No Frills CPU Control and Quadrant Standard.
320/600, performance, sio score: 762
320/768, performance, sio score: 879
320/787, performance, sio score: 890
320/806, performance, sio score: 925
320/600, performance, noop score: 769
320/768, performance, noop score: 851
320/787, performance, noop score: 889
320/806, performance, noop score: 929
320/600, interactive, noop score: 742
320/768, interactive, noop score: 871
320/787, interactive, noop score: 885
320/806, interactive, noop score: 908
320/600, smartass2, noop score: 712
320/768, smartass2, noop score: 860
320/787, smartass2, noop score: 872
320/806, smartass2, noop score: 898
I couldn't test the other governors now because I ran out of battery...
Anyway it's a waste of time because as we can see the score rises consistently with the selected CPU speed.
The CPU speed used at a given time depends a lot on the governor and on the I/O scheduler you choose.
From what I saw the governor can make the huge difference between the CPU speed increases and decreases. With the performance and interactive governors Quadrant showed the real clock at which the CPU was running (on System Information) and it was consistent with the maximum clock I selected on No Frills CPU Control.
When I selected 787MHz, the actual speed was in fact 787MHz and not 600MHz like you say. The same happened with the other clocks (600, 768, 806).
So what you write might apply to some kernels but definitely not to all.
I don't have the time to put nice screen captures here but I certainly have no interest in inventing scores and contradicting someone just for fun.
Just wanted to let you know my results.
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Any response for this? Waiting for the final conclusion on it.
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Any response for this? Waiting for the final conclusion on it.
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lol, d33ps1x, may i remember you that matt3o is the one of the fake s-off method? he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
Installed the JokaWild v3 ROM on my Play and flashed the DooMKerneL v14 ,now i wanna know how to do a safe OC.
I'm using No-frills CPU ,can you tell me the best settings for good and safe OC to XPERIA Play?
Thank you
I dont generally OC my phone beyond 1.2 but you can use this app to run a sereies of tests to determine which OC speed is best for your phone as all phones are different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656052
I don't overclock mine past 1.4. My play actually reboots if I go 1.6 or more.
I Overclocked my phone to 1.5 and it worked fine. Then tried overclock to 1.6 ,and it's really working good! no bugs ,very fast and the battery stays cool.
I'll stay with my 1.6Ghz overclock ,I think it's enough
What governor / IO scheduler are you guys using? i'm in the same position (jokawild / doomkernel v14 and just installed nofrills cpu) and have read the FAQ, but the version i have seems to have considerably more governors than what has been listed
EDIT: list explaining the governors is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663809
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What governor / IO scheduler are you guys using? i'm in the same position (jokawild / doomkernel v14 and just installed nofrills cpu) and have read the FAQ, but the version i have seems to have considerably more governors than what has been listed
EDIT: list explaining the governors is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663809
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I'm on SmartassV2.
I once asked this same question ot DoomLord, maker of DoomKernel about which governor and IO to use for best gaming and all around performance.
His recommendation (whihc I have been using since and saw a noticable difference) was to use
Governor: Performance
I/O: BFQ
and I overclock mine to 1.2ghz. My first android phone i oc'd too much, heard a popping noise and BAM.....bu-bye. So I dont go too far..
I generally step up the speed one step at a time until I hit errors that cannot be explained or I get force quits because the phone is running too fast. I suggest going slowly and testing things out but using the governor Performance while the phone is changing. Right now I'm doing okay with smartass v2 at .60/ 1.5 ghz. I might try bumping it up to 1.6 ghz and see how that works tomorrow.
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jgregoryj1 said:
I once asked this same question ot DoomLord, maker of DoomKernel about which governor and IO to use for best gaming and all around performance.
His recommendation (whihc I have been using since and saw a noticable difference) was to use
Governor: Performance
I/O: BFQ
and I overclock mine to 1.2ghz. My first android phone i oc'd too much, heard a popping noise and BAM.....bu-bye. So I dont go too far..
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Hows the battery life with this governor?
elnacho said:
Hows the battery life with this governor?
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Epic It is like the phone has no battery cuz on this governor, the phone runs at max frequency.
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I know I'm mad late, but I was wondering why my phone kept rebooting. I uninstalled all overclocking apps so I thought my profiles would return to normal. Turns out I must have accidentally set the profile to 2ghz max and 2ghz min somehow. My phone was super lagging and thank God it didn't burn out, smh...
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davidbar93 said:
Installed the JokaWild v3 ROM on my Play and flashed the DooMKerneL v14 ,now i wanna know how to do a safe OC.
I'm using No-frills CPU ,can you tell me the best settings for good and safe OC to XPERIA Play?
Thank you
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I currently have my Play overclocked to 1.6 using the interactive governor. Battery life is great and it runs steady at 60fps in FPSE. Also Mupen64 runs much better. I haven't had any issues with it so far!
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I currently have my Play overclocked to 1.6 using the interactive governor. Battery life is great and it runs steady at 60fps in FPSE. Also Mupen64 runs much better. I haven't had any issues with it so far!
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What scheduler are you using??
Mine is running fine on 1.4Ghz with SIO scheduler and InteractiveX governor, the bbatery life seems fine as well...
SmartAss always causing lag on me, dunno why...
LUPUS_GB
i use lupus kernel for gb v2 with i/o setting SIO and governor superbad..
and my phone runs well...no lag..
Hey guys ive already overclocked my phone using the lubus gb kernelv12 and i gota say having the extra internal memory (EXTRA 400MB!!!) and the ability to overclock to 1.6ghz is nice, however there are some things i wana ask. Im running at a min 249 and a max of 1613 mhz using no frills cpu with smartassv2 as my governer and noob as be scheduler, it runs miracles in speed, everything i can run at high resolutions and play and top speeds. However i leave my phone like this all the time ( 249mhz 1613 mhz). The smartassv2 governer is ment to only use high cpus when needed, so that in theory means that i wont always be at 1.6ghz. Ive read on other forums keeping your phone overclocked all the time is bad and dangerous but is it really if the max cpu is only being used when needed? In otherwords should i leave it how it is or is it dangerous? My device is an xperia plat btw. :victory:
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Hey guys ive already overclocked my phone using the lubus gb kernelv12 and i gota say having the extra internal memory (EXTRA 400MB!!!) and the ability to overclock to 1.6ghz is nice, however there are some things i wana ask. Im running at a min 249 and a max of 1613 mhz using no frills cpu with smartassv2 as my governer and noob as be scheduler, it runs miracles in speed, everything i can run at high resolutions and play and top speeds. However i leave my phone like this all the time ( 249mhz 1613 mhz). The smartassv2 governer is ment to only use high cpus when needed, so that in theory means that i wont always be at 1.6ghz. Ive read on other forums keeping your phone overclocked all the time is bad and dangerous but is it really if the max cpu is only being used when needed? In otherwords should i leave it how it is or is it dangerous? My device is an xperia plat btw. :victory:
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AFAIK only the Performance gov keeps the phone at the max allowed clock speed (1.6GHz in your case), so it's just fine as it is. You could, however, use an app (the only one I know that does this is SetCPU, there might be others) to make profiles so it'll only be overclocked when playing games/running benchmarks et cetera. This might save you some battery life.
CPU master by antutu allows you to set profiles but you need to buy the pro to do it
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AFAIK only the Performance gov keeps the phone at the max allowed clock speed (1.6GHz in your case), so it's just fine as it is. You could, however, use an app (the only one I know that does this is SetCPU, there might be others) to make profiles so it'll only be overclocked when playing games/running benchmarks et cetera. This might save you some battery life.
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Much appriciated for your reply, and thanks button got a smack to.
Hey everybody, so I'm a pretty huge noob when it comes to performance settings. I only recently read through the Understanding CPU Governors thread, and I get that part pretty well. I just flash the new AOKP rom for Primo C, and decided to go with the Scary gov. What I don't understand is what the heck is the io scheduler, and how to use it. Also, what are some optimal min/max MHz settings for the One V?
I chose Scary for battery life, not so much for performance. I don't need a high performing phone, but I do want my battery to last those extra few hours. If someone could give me some feedback on how to use this stuff, I'd really appreciate it, so that I could quit asking every few months.
Thanks.
Min try not setting below 250mhz and max 1450 please dont oc it above that ur motherboard will fry...and if u want high performance install,a custom rom and kernel, if u oc.it u will get high performance but low battery....and vice versa....
Hope u understood click thanks if it helped,
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MonsterNo7 said:
What I don't understand is what the heck is the io scheduler, and how to use it..
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The I/O scheduler is reponsible for how data is "transfered" from storage
This includes when it will be written back if dirty a.s.o
So it influences the I/O performance.
Actually the default deadline is a good choice to use
See here for more information about that topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22134559&postcount=4
max
Hey there
I am just wondering if overlocking may cause a life less for battery or cpu
if not what's the the fastest and safest one for the min and max ?
thx
Maybe you wanted to overclock it? Don't think that overlocking your phone will do any good.
I know that the overclock is bad for the processor´s life but no in battery , so i don´t recommend you use overclock , it use more battery , if you are looking for speed and stability , do something diferent . I use my phone always in under clock and genrally i can use it for 2 days without charge it , but it have good speed and stabilty (on demand 122-480) :laugh:
If you want performance with good use of battery try changing the governor for Smartass V2, min: 122 and max: 600. If you have SmartassH3, better
Thank u for u reccomandation...i tryied what u said and in 1 hour only 2% battery drain(phone was idle) btw thank u.....
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U can safely oc any cm7 rom to over 700mhz if u planin' to play some chalengin games, otherwise it's beter to stay within max freq around 600, and play with governors for performance or battery life. See some kernels with better governor support.
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Ok thank u.....but gaming also drain battery so i dont play them.....
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