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Few questions....

Hi i got many questions...and issues
-Internal memory : jeez i installer 2 dozen applications and i got 13m left and the alert about low memory (which cant be deleted)
seriously??? 13mb left???? how can it be possible ! when i check the application list, i have like 40-60mb (made a quick calcul) installed ! i cant even isntall google earth ! and what the hell is "contact list" app? its almost 30mo!!
-Wifi tethering : any way without root? for tether with ipad
-Push mail through the HTC app...possible?
-How can i change the defaut app to open for X action...
-Can i use another SMS software with the HTC message widget? exemple when i click new message it open the defaut one...
-How can i use picasa ? i keep having an error (authentification...) in gallery app.
-voicesearch and speech to text. Installed HTC IME KB, Voice app and nothing work. I cant have the keyboard in the list of KB. And voice search doesnt work...(error connex)
thanks a lot

You want WinMo

oh no i dont

For all those questions, yes you do as it does them...the Desire doesn't as yet.
- It has Push for Googlemail, I think there is another app you can use for other account types
- Can't change default apps
- Can't use other SMS software (I don't think, could be wrong)
- Can't tether without rooting (as you've said)
HD2 does all these, some stock some with custom ROMs

EddyOS said:
For all those questions, yes you do as it does them...the Desire doesn't as yet.
- It has Push for Googlemail, I think there is another app you can use for other account types
- Can't change default apps
- Can't use other SMS software (I don't think, could be wrong)
- Can't tether without rooting (as you've said)
HD2 does all these, some stock some with custom ROMs
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- what about the support for Exchange push in the mail program?
-if you install another program, you may be able to. you can remove the defaults for applications in the settings. that's why you can switch between homescreens once you have installed launcher2.apk....
- there's plenty of other SMS software in the market, ChompSMS, Handcent etc.
- yes, you need to root.

But overall, yeah, it sounds like for the kinda stuff you want to do, winmo would be better all round.

rhedgehog said:
But overall, yeah, it sounds like for the kinda stuff you want to do, winmo would be better all round.
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some are minor
but the memory issue is absoluterly TERRIBLE and not normal
what the **** seriously? cant even instal google earth

totorip said:
some are minor
but the memory issue is absoluterly TERRIBLE and not normal
what the **** seriously? cant even instal google earth
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Honestly you don't need google Earth it's 22mb and the maps does the same thing!
Also big drain on battery (Earth and Maps) so not something you would want to use all the time anyhow.
Search around for apps as you may find one that does same but for less space.
Also, are you using all the apps? Are a lot of them just games?
Be smart with the limited space.
It's not ideal I know, but until anything changes not a lot you can do.

-Internal memory
Yes, this is a pain. I wish Google would let us put stuff on SD card already without having to root the phone and HTC needs to put less preinstalled crap too replacing it with OTA on demand instead. Teeter? WTH!
-Wifi tethering
Yes, PDANet and some other application allow BT/WiFi/USD tethering with Windows/OSX and Linux. Probably not with iPad because it has no USB, BT is crap (if same as on iPhone) ... not real OS X.
-Push mail through the HTC app...possible?
No. Google's own email app will do push for Gmail accounts only. HTC email will check at specified intervals.
-How can i change the defaut app to open for X action...
You can't, as far as I know.
-Can i use another SMS software with the HTC message widget? exemple when i click new message it open the defaut one...
Yes. There are two very popular ones, but HTC's own is all I need.
-How can i use picasa ? i keep having an error (authentification...) in gallery app.
Yes. Not sure about your error. You can get Gallery app from N1 and use that instead of HTC's Photos.
-voicesearch and speech to text. Installed HTC IME KB, Voice app and nothing work. I cant have the keyboard in the list of KB. And voice search doesnt work...(error connex)
Hmm, by default HTC IME doesn't do voice. I installed Voice Search with Android default keyboard and have that feature now. Although I rarely use it. Swype FTW! Check the forums there was a link to the apk to get it all working.

thanks a lot...for the answer even though some are really mindblowing in the worst way
thx !

yup yup
You've summed up some of the biggest problems with Android and the Desire.
The inability to install apps to an SD card is a big problem - one that can be solved by waiting for root, or by waiting for the next release of Android (I think Google have said they are working on this feature for the next version). Basically, just by waiting.
I use IMAP IDLE with the K-9 email app for push IMAP email from my fastmail.fm account. Works instantly and perfectly. Love it.
Hope this helps a little.

what the hell is "contact list" (in application / manage application)
its 28mo!!!

i deleted it
lost all my contact
synced again with google , i have them back..and no ****ty 30mb file
what was it??

totorip said:
what the hell is "contact list" (in application / manage application)
its 28mo!!!
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My Applications/Manage Applications FCs on me all the time (it is probably some app installed from apk that causes this problem). Don't see said app show up in APK or ASTRO.

i dont get what u mean

[Free APP] GO SMS PRO (with build in easy to use DIY theme kit)

this is the new release of GO SMS, the old GO SMS will be phased out
GO SMS Pro
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jb.gosms&feature=search_result
even more features than before, gestures, more animation, more themes, and you can even create your own theme right in the app itself
GO SMS Pro Emoji Plugin
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jb.gosms.emoji&feature=search_result
emoticons compatible with iphones emoticons

emoji support is back, nice! thanks

Will check it out, thanks.

All it needs now is swipe to change messages and a way to toggle the pop-up while the screen is on.
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Whoaaa looks so much like the stock MIUI SMS app now! Will try this for sure!

Emoji does not work
I have not tested it yet with people who DO have go sms pro,
but, when I send emoji to people who DON'T have go sms pro, they do not see the emoji I attach in the message, only the regular smileys
Edit: I just read again the market description of the emoji plugin. and indeed it is stated very clearly that the recipient should have go sms pro and the emoji plugin.
In my opinion this is totally useless.
One has to convince all of his contacts to install an app before one can use it properly
That's not the right way to implement new stuff.
Imagine you could not talk to someone unless he had your dialer application....
ridiculous

Ommadawn101 said:
I have not tested it yet with people who DO have go sms pro,
but, when I send emoji to people who DON'T have go sms pro, they do not see the emoji I attach in the message, only the regular smileys
Edit: I just read again the market description of the emoji plugin. and indeed it is stated very clearly that the recipient should have go sms pro and the emoji plugin.
In my opinion this is totally useless.
One has to convince all of his contacts to install an app before one can use it properly
That's not the right way to implement new stuff.
Imagine you could not talk to someone unless he had your dialer application....
ridiculous
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So you suggest they change the SMS-standard to implement their own type of smileys? Remember that SMS is only text, and it is the SMS-app reading the SMS that translates the text 'colon-paranthesis' to an image of a smiley-face.
Ridiculous...

whaave said:
So you suggest they change the SMS-standard to implement their own type of smileys? Remember that SMS is only text, and it is the SMS-app reading the SMS that translates the text 'colon-paranthesis' to an image of a smiley-face.
Ridiculous...
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I am not a developer and I don't have knowhow, but I know what sounds unreasonable.
It is very unreasonable to provide you with a tool that only works if your recipient has exactly the same tool.
Can you imagine having an sms app which messages could be read ONLY by people who had the same app? wouldn't you call that ridiculous and useless?
I don't see the difference

Ommadawn101 said:
Can you imagine having an sms app which messages could be read ONLY by people who had the same app? wouldn't you call that ridiculous and useless?
I don't see the difference
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I use Google Talk all the time.

whaave said:
I use Google Talk all the time.
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If you compare a small app on android to a Google application, than I have nothing more to say

Ommadawn101 said:
If you compare a small app on android to a Google application, than I have nothing more to say
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It's obvious that you do not know what you are talking about. What you find ridiculus I find obvious. I rest my case

whaave said:
It's obvious that you do not know what you are talking about. What you find ridiculus I find obvious. I rest my case
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Whatever makes you happy

[Q] Long SMS converts to MMS

Hello i'm having the galaxy wonder with stock rom and android v2.3.5. I found out that every time i'm writing a long sms it's converting it to mms in order to send it. How i can stop this conversion so i can send long sms?
thank you

giwrgos said:
Hello i'm having the galaxy wonder with stock rom and android v2.3.5. I found out that every time i'm writing a long sms it's converting it to mms in order to send it. How i can stop this conversion so i can send long sms?
thank you
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I believe Go SMS or Handcent will solve this.....both free from Market!!!
The 3 SMS conversion is a well-known issue, and AFAIK, has not been solved for Stock Messaging App....
if it has been, let me know

giwrgos said:
Hello i'm having the galaxy wonder with stock rom and android v2.3.5. I found out that every time i'm writing a long sms it's converting it to mms in order to send it. How i can stop this conversion so i can send long sms?
thank you
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Go to Messaging
then open Setting - then open Creation mode - then in select creation mode - choose Restricted among (Restricted, Warning, Free). And you are Done.

You go to the themes and apps section and download my modified mms.apk that allows up to 500 chained sms :-D
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Try GoSMS. It's fast, useful and soft.
I love it so much that I've uninstalled the native Messaging app.

[Q] Q: How to chose default messenger per contact

Hi
I did try to Google but couldn't find the answer....
Is it possible to choose the default messenger per Contact (not global default messger App?)
For example, for some of my contacts I would like to use WhatsApp, and for others SMSPro.
When I chose to send a message to the respective contact (from the address book), the appropriate app should be launched.
Any help would be most appreciated. This has been nagging me for sometime.
Thanks in advance

Legolas2 said:
Hi
I did try to Google but couldn't find the answer....
Is it possible to choose the default messenger per Contact (not global default messger App?)
For example, for some of my contacts I would like to use WhatsApp, and for others SMSPro.
When I chose to send a message to the respective contact (from the address book), the appropriate app should be launched.
Any help would be most appreciated. This has been nagging me for sometime.
Thanks in advance
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Why do you want to do this?

norbarb said:
Why do you want to do this?
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Firstly, thanks for replying to my query. Now for the reason....
For my contacts who are availabe on WhatsApp I would like to use it, for the rest I would like to use normal messaging app.
(Others may even want to extend it to other similar apps too.)

I'm not 100% sure, but i don't think you can. Unless you just don't choose a default message app. Then everyone you wanted to send a text message, a box will pop up asking which app you want to use. I think.

mrhaley30705 said:
I'm not 100% sure, but i don't think you can. Unless you just don't choose a default message app. Then everyone you wanted to send a text message, a box will pop up asking which app you want to use. I think.
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Thanx, this is what I do right now but is quite annoying. I guess I will use the WhatApp app directly for the few contacts that use this specifically.
Would be a great option to have.
I could think a similar aspect for the dialer app too. Use Google Voice, default dialer, ....

REQUEST: Restoring Google Talk in 4.3

Hi there!
Yesterday I received OTA update to 4.3 and discovered that Google Talk app was replaced by Hangouts. The latter is terribly bad app and I'd like to remove Hangouts and install Gtalk. Does anyone know how to restore Google Talk?

I'm tired of people saying that its "terribly bad"—you get text copying, images, emoji, simple group chats and read receipts with live notifications as to when people are writing. Its fantastic as to functionality—the only thing you lost is the ability to set a status. And perhaps one or two smaller features.
However, I don't want to sound just annoying, so is there any way in the built-in settings app to use uninstall updates after a system update such as this one? Considering you had Talk before, I'm assuming (and hoping) that it didn't overwrite the section that stores previously installed versions of that app.
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CWalkop said:
the only thing you lost is the ability to set a status.
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and the ability to see my friends on/offline.
CWalkop said:
Considering you had Talk before, I'm assuming (and hoping) that it didn't overwrite the section that stores previously installed versions of that app.
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Unfortunately I'm assuming that Google overwrite Talk with Hangouts. When you trying to uninstall hangouts you always go to ver. 1.0.2, not to GTalk.

You can't uninstall because the default is Hangouts. You can get a Talk.apk from older Google image and push it to system/app & remove Hangouts apk.

madd0g said:
You can't uninstall because the default is Hangouts. You can get a Talk.apk from older Google image and push it to system/app & remove Hangouts apk.
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I'm using stock rom/kernel.
Tell me if I'm wrong but when I try to remove Hangouts and replace it with Gtalk in system/app I will loose ability to receive OTA?

ecthable said:
I'm using stock rom/kernel.
Prove me that I'm wrong but, If I try to remove Hangouts and replace it wit Gtalk in system/app I will loose ability to receive OTA?
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Yeah, probably, since the assert script would check for Hangouts.apk to be patched. But if you know how to copy stuff to system , you also know how to revert the change

madd0g said:
Yeah, probably, since the assert script would check for Hangouts.apk to be patched. But if you know how to copy stuff to system , you also know how to revert the change
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So without messing in system/app there is no way to restore Gtalk in 'normal' way?

No, because it doesn't exist in 4.3 system partition so you can't revert to it like before and it can't be installed as a regular app. Sooner you get used to Hangouts, the better

ecthable said:
and the ability to see my friends on/offline.
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Sorry, that's what I meant by setting a status (online/offline).
madd0g said:
No, because it doesn't exist in 4.3 system partition so you can't revert to it like before and it can't be installed as a regular app. Sooner you get used to Hangouts, the better
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree here. The sooner you get used to Hangouts, the better! Apparently they're adding screen-share soon, which was shown off at the Google event announcing ChromeCast and the New Nexus 7 (which seems awesome, by the way).
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CWalkop said:
I'm tired of people saying that its "terribly bad"—you get text copying, images, emoji, simple group chats and read receipts with live notifications as to when people are writing. Its fantastic as to functionality—the only thing you lost is the ability to set a status. And perhaps one or two smaller features.
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You are right, it's not terribly bad, it's "a piece of garbage".
It shows contacts from my SIM card. I keep said contacts hidden in the contacts App, yet Hangouts does't care (I am not going to have an hangout with my voicemail or with my operators's customer service).
It shows circles, but you cannot expand them. Do you remember who is in your circle of acquaintances? I don't.
It shows contacts only by name and you cannot expand them
Some of the contacts appear with the same name multiple times, maybe because they have more that one email address or because they are imported from different apps and there is no way to tell them apart.
Hangout tells you if a contact does not have access to hangouts and offers the possibility of inviting him/her (good). However you cannot hide said contact from the list or only show the ones that have hangouts
It doesn't show when contacts are online
So it is very understandable that people want to revert back to something that was working better at sending and receiving messages.

Yeah, you can do everything but see who's online you can IM with!! /sarcasm
Boozezela said:
You are right, it's not terribly bad, it's "a piece of garbage".
It shows contacts from my SIM card. I keep said contacts hidden in the contacts App, yet Hangouts does't care (I am not going to have an hangout with my voicemail or with my operators's customer service).
It shows circles, but you cannot expand them. Do you remember who is in your circle of acquaintances? I don't.
It shows contacts only by name and you cannot expand them
Some of the contacts appear with the same name multiple times, maybe because they have more that one email address or because they are imported from different apps and there is no way to tell them apart.
Hangout tells you if a contact does not have access to hangouts and offers the possibility of inviting him/her (good). However you cannot hide said contact from the list or only show the ones that have hangouts
It doesn't show when contacts are online
So it is very understandable that people want to revert back to something that was working better at sending and receiving messages.
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