I just bought my T-mobile 16gb GSIII yesterday and I have Anker universal wall chargers for my spare batteries. Ever sine I got my HTC Sensation, I've used spare batteries and Anker wall chargers to get the better battery life then I would plugging up my phone in. I put ms OEM GSIII battery in the wall charger overnight and the indicator turned blue signifying a full charge. When I popped it in my phone it was only at 92% charged. I figured it was a mis-read so I popped it back in the wall charger. It wasn't a mis-read, the wall charger won't charge it to 100%. When I charged the phone by plugging it in via usb cable, it acheived a 100% charge. I'm just curious if anyone else has had an issue with the wall chargers.
From what I have read here on other threads, the battery is not supposed to read anything more than 99% once unplugged from a charger. I believe Samsung did this intentionally as a fail safe for the batteries.
androidpixar said:
From what I have read here on other threads, the battery is not supposed to read anything more than 99% once unplugged from a charger. I believe Samsung did this intentionally as a fail safe for the batteries.
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As my original post states I'm having an issues getting a charge above 91%, regardless of how long the battery charges. The full battery indicator is solid blue and when placed back in my GSIII it reads 91%. If i was able to achieve 99% I wouldn't have had any reason to post my question.
I have read about this issue on mobile01.com as Im Chinese... This seems to be a common issue, it seems per my understanding is that the S3 has an intelligent charging circuit, which slows down the charge and current when its 90% or above, and will allow for a charge to a higher terminal voltage. If you use an external battery charger it will not charge it to 100%.
Are there any external charger out there that have this "intelligent charging circuit" I always thought the charge protection is built into the Li-poly battery.
I have the same problem since I got the batteries last week. The batteries work great but the anker external charger will only charge mines to 91%, its a known problem. I might get the Samsung OEM s3 charger and battery, that shouldn't have a problem charging these badboys to100%.
No external charger (that I have found) will take these batteries past 91-92 percent. You have to get the samsung factory charger to achieve this.
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my captivate is v2.2 froyo rooted w z4 and lagfix, My stock battery barely lasts me through a night at work,
I ordered a 3500mah battery from ebay and when i received it I charged it overnight with my phone off....
The next day was a miracle! Battery stayed at 100% for 2 hours, by the end of the day I still had 60% battery left!
I read that the first couple charges need to be cycled so i tried to drain the battery by playing a movie over and over with screen brightness and volume at max.....
the battery lasted forever, after getting it down to 7% I charged it overnight- sameway with phone off, but now nomater what i do it only lasts the length of a stock battery.
I tried unplugging,plugging back in, phone off , phone on, waiting hours after it says 100%(on charger overnight) and tried ac and usb charging, but it just isnt seeming to charge all the way.
I was going to buy a second extended battery and an external battery charger but all the external chargers i see on ebay say are only good for li-ion batteries up to 2000mah, plus i had to modify my otterbox defender case to support my new battery and it would be a pain to have to take case apart everytime i swap batteries.
Ive been reading for days about what to do to no avail, all the external chargers i see arent rated for 3500mah capacity and I wouldnt mind flashing a custom rom that would support extended battery charging but the more research i do the more confused i get.....
Is there a kernal out there that is stable and supports charging these batteries with no bugs or issues????
What custom rom would be best?
please help......
any info is greatly appreciated
there is no such thing as a rom that supports extended batteries
the phone does
the chargers ALL work for the extended batteries there is no capacity rating limit on them. they do have a charging rate but it is around 350 to 800 mA/H and the batteries are acutally around 2500 mA so devide 2500/500 is 5 hours to charge.
[Review] 3500mah extended battery pictures heres my review - and would have been a better place to post and ask.,...
Cheap Chinese Battery Charger heres my charger. works fine.
[Mod] Battery Charger - USB Upgrade Mod heres my charger mod to charge faster thru USB. 800 ma/h so under 3 hours for extended,
charging on the wall charger or thru the phone takes longer than a regular battery.
charging thru the phone on USB is faster with the official samsung or with a hacked usb charger like above
i get upto 60 hours out of my battery. - under volted properly and custom kernel options..
you may want to wipe your battery stats. but i switch back and fourth no problem.
or your battery has a bad cell. those extendeds are just 2 batteries linked together.
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my captivate is v2.2 froyo rooted w z4 and lagfix, My stock battery barely lasts me through a night at work,
I ordered a 3500mah battery from ebay and when i received it I charged it overnight with my phone off....
The next day was a miracle! Battery stayed at 100% for 2 hours, by the end of the day I still had 60% battery left!
I read that the first couple charges need to be cycled so i tried to drain the battery by playing a movie over and over with screen brightness and volume at max.....
the battery lasted forever, after getting it down to 7% I charged it overnight- sameway with phone off, but now nomater what i do it only lasts the length of a stock battery.
I tried unplugging,plugging back in, phone off , phone on, waiting hours after it says 100%(on charger overnight) and tried ac and usb charging, but it just isnt seeming to charge all the way.
I was going to buy a second extended battery and an external battery charger but all the external chargers i see on ebay say are only good for li-ion batteries up to 2000mah, plus i had to modify my otterbox defender case to support my new battery and it would be a pain to have to take case apart everytime i swap batteries.
Ive been reading for days about what to do to no avail, all the external chargers i see arent rated for 3500mah capacity and I wouldnt mind flashing a custom rom that would support extended battery charging but the more research i do the more confused i get.....
Is there a kernal out there that is stable and supports charging these batteries with no bugs or issues????
What custom rom would be best?
please help......
any info is greatly appreciated
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there as an app in the market to wipe battery stats I forgot what its name it might be helpful to you since you're on stock froyo. probably your phone battery stats was in line with your oem battery so to maximized your extended batt you will have to wiped out the current battery stats for your phone to adjust to your new extended battery. I will post the app name later if I could find it. since you are rooted it will be of use to you.
edit: ok I found the app it's called battery calibration by nema download it from the market give it a whirl and observe how it goes..
i remember reading about such an app for rooted phones on a different forum but someone replied saying that it would wipe battery stats but still wouldnt help since the phones stock software is written to only charge a battery to 1500mah then it stops charging.....
Do u think it would work or am i screwed unless i flash a new kernal?
would be worth a shot.......
Is it best to wipe battery stats when extended battery is drained b4 charging.... or when fully charging .... or does it matter?
thanks guys for the fast responses!.....
so any of the chargers that fit my battery should work then.... they have the same specs as yours... so i will go ahead and order one for now,
I guess the surest way to know i am getting full charge would be to use the external charger...
So an extended battery should fully charge in the phone with no issues? Ive read so many forums that say a custom kernal is only way to charge them 100% in the phone???
no.. to charge at 100% speed. and i havent heard of any kernel for that in the captivate forums...
ie using the official samsung charger (usb) will charge at full speed the one that comes with your phone is 750 ma/h. if you plug into a non official charger the phone will only let in about 350ma/hour through the usb. or hack it.
i have the usb that came with the phone.... so i will get 750ma per hour if i connect usb to computer only or it will charge that fast on the samsung wall adapter also?
the wall adapter only!
the phone has to see the official CHARGER to charge full speed. or hack the other CHARGER, other wise it charges at what it calls "usb" so charging using usb would be slower too. if you read the [mod] link above, or all the other times i said CHARGER above, you would understand,
alright....thanks bro
charging via usb from your pc will always be slower than using a wall adapter.
not true.
aftermarket chargers (not samsung) wont charge the phone any faster than the pc
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[Mod] Battery Charger - USB Upgrade Mod
unless the middle 2 pins of a USB cable or the charger itself has the 2 pins shorted the phone charges in USB mode 350ish mA/h with the OEM chargers or a modded charger it charges in "AC mode" upto 1100 ish mA/h
the charger that comes with it supports this mode but only 750mA/h max output.
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Hi, i was wondering if there are any 'super' or 'turbo' chargers for phones. Chargers which charge up the battery faster.
I am going to get a 3000mah battery for my desire but i remember reading somewhere that they take ages to charge up.
My current desire has a charging problem, and does not charge at all at most times, even though charger is plugged in it stays at zero% charge.
Try Battery Monitor Widget. There you can see how many mA your charger puts into your device. You can't charge batterys too fast. There is a limit given by the battery. There is also a difference in chargers. You find them in the technical data.
Remember the charger is in the phone, the thing you plug into the wall is just a power supply.
Certain kernels will charge faster than others as well. Look for a fast charge kernel.
try different kernels
So that basically means the "turbo chargers" that they sell in the stores are a crock?
i will try it later.
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I have purchased in the store the battery charger, and spent two years no problem, it should be in there you can find what you need.
My change to a glitch kernel not only made it much faster, but the battery life seems better as well.
Sent from a glitched cm7 fascinate.
Charging via power supply plugged into power sockets is definitely better than charging via USB cables. Also, check out for cases for your phone which are capable of charging it too. I have seen some of those available for iPhone.
Thanks, I changed kernel and it started charging up.
I bought a new dock for my phone anyway.
So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.
What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.
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2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.
I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)
Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.
My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...
The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.
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i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...
I came from Nexus 5 with Qi chargers, so I'll be comparing my experience to that.
Is anyone noticing the phone STOPS charging at 100% via the powermat and doesn't trickle charge to keep it close to 100%? I charge my phone overnight and I'm waking up to ~70% charge and charging off (no indicators of charging on phone or powermat). My qi mats all kept trickle charging at 100% so I wouldn't lose battery.
Now the ***** part - I swear the first few weeks with powermat, I was waking up to 100% charge and suddenly it's changed.
So what are other people's experience with this? There was a lot of discussion about qi chargers that behaved differently based on brand. Some did trickle charge, others didn't.
The further I go using an att g3, the more I want to sell it and run to t-mobile.
I'm curious if anyone has been using Qi charging with their TabPro? Anyone's comments would be appreciated.
I used a micro-usb Qi coil receiver between my TabPro 8.4 and the Poetic case for a few weeks without issues.
But then something happened to cause the Qi charging pad to overheat. I ended up having to have the TabPro 8.4 replaced by BestBuy as the TabPro would no longer charge at all, even trying different micro-usb cables and 2.1 amp power adaptors. What was even stranger, was the battery continued to drain even after powering the TabPro off! I'm puzzled as to what was damaged, but the end result was the battery went from 41% charge to 7% charge overnight even though it was powered off (not sleeping, but powered off) and not connected to a charger. When I discovered it was at 7% I removed my account info, but even with the charger plugged in, the battery went down to 3% while working on the TabPro. When I checked on it an hour latter it was dead. If I plugged in the charger, after about 20 seconds it would flash the green battery for about a second, then it would go out. No boot, no charging, even after leaving it charging for 24 hours.
So I'm very reluctant to try to use Qi wireless charging on my replacement tab. I suspect the Qi charging pad failed and overheated. There is a spot about the size of a dime where the plastic partially melted on the charging pad. The Poetic case and the TabPro look fine, and the charging pad still acts like it is working. Very puzzling. Any ideas or cautions?
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I'm curious if anyone has been using Qi charging with their TabPro? Anyone's comments would be appreciated.
I used a micro-usb Qi coil receiver between my TabPro 8.4 and the Poetic case for a few weeks without issues.
But then something happened to cause the Qi charging pad to overheat. I ended up having to have the TabPro 8.4 replaced by BestBuy as the TabPro would no longer charge at all, even trying different micro-usb cables and 2.1 amp power adaptors. What was even stranger, was the battery continued to drain even after powering the TabPro off! I'm puzzled as to what was damaged, but the end result was the battery went from 41% charge to 7% charge overnight even though it was powered off (not sleeping, but powered off) and not connected to a charger. When I discovered it was at 7% I removed my account info, but even with the charger plugged in, the battery went down to 3% while working on the TabPro. When I checked on it an hour latter it was dead. If I plugged in the charger, after about 20 seconds it would flash the green battery for about a second, then it would go out. No boot, no charging, even after leaving it charging for 24 hours.
So I'm very reluctant to try to use Qi wireless charging on my replacement tab. I suspect the Qi charging pad failed and overheated. There is a spot about the size of a dime where the plastic partially melted on the charging pad. The Poetic case and the TabPro look fine, and the charging pad still acts like it is working. Very puzzling. Any ideas or cautions?
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The only thing I can think of is maybe the Qi charging pad failed to deliver 2.1 Amps to correctly charge it (I don't think they even make 1 Amp coils yet? - though I could be wrong.) , maybe the tab went into charging mode but it was really discharging since not enough current was going in that it needed to charge + keep the tablet running so in the end maybe it destroyed the battery since it went completely flat which is usually a bad thing for l-ion battery's
Usually when android says the battery is at 0% the battery really has about 20% remaining for protection of the battery and preventing it from going completely empty (l-ion can really be drained to 2.5v but android reads 0% around 3.4v or 3.2v if i remember correctly as protection from flat-lining the batt), however if it was under charging mode I'm sure it would override this as it thinks it's plugged in so it's not paying attention to the battery, but really the batt is draining to compensate for the underpowered charger, that would be my guess maybe constantly using the Qi charger the battery circuitry changed the battery status from lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad) since it wasn't receiving the current it was supposed to and the circuitry thought something was wrong with the battery cells or the battery just went bad since it was always under a charging / discharging state never reaching 100%.
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I found this tablet to be very fussy when using other chargers then its official one, I have tried several chargers and they just dont function like the stock one for example
HP Touchpad charger 5.3v - 2.0A - Very high quality charger and even won some awards for beating out other chargers - I found this would sometimes not fully charge the tablet to 100% it would idle around 98% (I have two of these chargers) - Charge current starts around 1800 mAh drops to 200 mAh when battery gets full don't think its enough to top it off. (charges at 5v)
10,000 mAh Power-bank (5v , 2.0A), found out this would not fully charge the tablet either it would get to 80%, upon further inspection the 2A port was only delivering about 1 Amp of current according to my amp reader (voltage drop to 4.98)
Samsung official charger (5.3v 2.0A)- though seems to start at a pretty high 5.60 volts (higher then other chargers) , and charges at about 1870 mAh , always reaches 100% with this charger. (I have two of these chargers since I bought another one as backup - both do the same thing)
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The only thing I can think of is maybe the Qi charging pad failed to deliver 2.1 Amps to correctly charge it (I don't think they even make 1 Amp coils yet?
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Usually when android says the battery is at 0% the battery really has about 20% remaining for protection of the battery and preventing it from going completely empty (l-ion can really be drained to 2.5v but android reads 0% around 3.4v or 3.2v if i remember correctly as protection from flat-lining the batt), however if it was under charging mode I'm sure it would override this as it thinks it's plugged in so it's not paying attention to the battery, but really the batt is draining to compensate for the underpowered charger, that would be my guess maybe constantly using the Qi charger the battery circuitry changed the battery status from lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad) since it wasn't receiving the current it was supposed to and the circuitry thought something was wrong with the battery cells or the battery just went bad since it was always under a charging / discharging state never reaching 100%.
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I found this tablet to be very fussy when using other chargers then its official one, I have tried several chargers and they just dont function like the stock one for example
HP Touchpad charger 5.3v - 2.0A - Very high quality charger and even won some awards for beating out other chargers - I found this would sometimes not fully charge the tablet to 100% it would idle around 98% (I have two of these chargers) - Charge current starts around 1800 mAh drops to 200 mAh when battery gets full don't think its enough to top it off. (charges at 5v)
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That could be the case. Yet, for two weeks, the Qi charging had no problems taking the charge to 100%. It would charge a bit over 15% an hour. The Galaxy Charging Current app reported between 670 and 750ma charging current using Qi charging.
At this point I'll likely never know, but it could be the battery itself simply failed on the tablet. My question is mainly to see if anyone else has used Qi charging, and what their experience is. How can I display the battery status (you referenced lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad))? The battery app from the Play Store does display "battery health" but I've only seen it say "Good".
On your side note, I occasionally plug the tablet into the USB port on my computer (measures 5.10V), and it charges at about 10% an hour while sleeping, and has repeatedly charged the battery to 100% when I leave it connected. I have an EnrePlex Jumper Prime 4400mAh that measures 5.18V, and charges at 1.5A. It has charged the battery to 100%, though will run out of juice if the battery is lower than 40% before I use it, it measures 5.18V.
I have an old Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 that I often charge via the computer's USB port, although it takes a long time, and it's battery is still fine after almost 3 years.
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That could be the case. Yet, for two weeks, the Qi charging had no problems taking the charge to 100%. It would charge a bit over 15% an hour. The Galaxy Charging Current app reported between 670 and 750ma charging current using Qi charging.
At this point I'll likely never know, but it could be the battery itself simply failed on the tablet. My question is mainly to see if anyone else has used Qi charging, and what their experience is. How can I display the battery status (you referenced lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad))? The battery app from the Play Store does display "battery health" but I've only seen it say "Good".
On your side note, I occasionally plug the tablet into the USB port on my computer (measures 5.10V), and it charges at about 10% an hour while sleeping, and has repeatedly charged the battery to 100% when I leave it connected. I have an EnrePlex Jumper Prime 4400mAh that measures 5.18V, and charges at 1.5A. It has charged the battery to 100%, though will run out of juice if the battery is lower than 40% before I use it, it measures 5.18V.
I have an old Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 that I often charge via the computer's USB port, although it takes a long time, and it's battery is still fine after almost 3 years.
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The battery app from the play store probably does the same thing just shows a status as a replacement of the health, you can see the status with logcat occasionally you will see something like this ---
you might need root for some of these commands., you can use Terminal Emulator , adb shell, or sshd to access these commands.
Logcat::
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"D/BatteryService( 934): level:83, scale:100, status:3, health:2, present:true, voltage: 4091, temperature: 234, technology: Li-ion, AC powered:false, USB powered:false, Wireless powered:false, icon:17303447, invalid charger:0, online:1, current avg:-378, charge type:0, power sharing:false"
2. (shell)
dumpsys battery
will output something like this
Current Battery Service state:
AC powered: false
USB powered: false
Wireless powered: false
status: 3 < - unplugged
health: 2 <- health:2 would translate to good , health 1 would be excellent (though I have never seen a 1 status , 3 poor, 4 bad
present: true
level: 83
scale: 100
voltage: 4114
current now: -140
temperature: 248
technology: Li-ion
3. (shell, you can check out other files in the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/directory but be careful not to modify them)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/health
Good