Riddle me this... - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

2 phones, both run exactly the same apps, aside from the rooted one that runs cwm, titanium backup, setcpu, Dropbox.
1 phone - rooted, running stock ics, frozen apps, lean!
2 phone - stock ics.
Memory usage is less on the stock phone.
Ram manager
1 550mb
2 407mb
Applications running
1 451
2 380
What gives? I thought freezing was supposed to free up more memory...

How in the he*l do you have 450 applications???
Mine is more like your #1 but with over 50 more apps added, and I still have only 192, total, running and non running...
And the memory stays around 350.
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chances are he's only loaded each of those apps just once aside form facebook twitter and other stuff.. no one really uses all those apps

One just sucks moar. Awesome advice ftw
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Ya no one uses even ten percent of those apps.
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Sorry, those aren't apps running, it's mb of memory used.

No 2 phones are the same...
End of story
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How to do with the lack of RAM?

Dunno for your, but for me it's hell. After boot's over, i have about 100mb of RAM avalaible and as it gets around 40mb, phone gets very laggy (like, call starts 2minutes after pressing call button...)
That happens quickly of course, since most apps use around 20mb (browser much more)... After that, only thing to do is reboot... And that take some time! And it can takesSo is there a way to "improve" that?
What I have started doing in my routine is when I am done using an app instead of just pressing the home button I press the back button until I am all the way out of the app. Also I don't use a task manager anymore since it seemed to hurt my phone more then help.
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I'm on doomlord kernel v14 with zRAM activated and Xperia s rom and when I'm not listening to music the ram free is around 200mb if you can I recommend you to flash that Rom doesn't has lot of internal apps and when flashing the firmware it gets a lot of internal memory free
Other would be that you buy ram manager pro from market its a very helpful app when to ram managing is related
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RAM Manager seems to hzve no effect...
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Jmayorga96 said:
I'm on doomlord kernel v14 with zRAM activated and Xperia s rom and when I'm not listening to music the ram free is around 200mb if you can I recommend you to flash that Rom doesn't has lot of internal apps and when flashing the firmware it gets a lot of internal memory free
Other would be that you buy ram manager pro from market its a very helpful app when to ram managing is related
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Do they have a CDMA version avaliable? And if so, what's the link? (For the rom of course)
kojinmalia said:
Dunno for your, but for me it's hell. After boot's over, i have about 100mb of RAM avalaible and as it gets around 40mb, phone gets very laggy (like, call starts 2minutes after pressing call button...)
That happens quickly of course, since most apps use around 20mb (browser much more)... After that, only thing to do is reboot... And that take some time! And it can takesSo is there a way to "improve" that?
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I use the v6 spercharger script and I have an average of 180mb free ( not when playing games)...try it just search the forum
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Do they have a CDMA version avaliable? And if so, what's the link? (For the rom of course)
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Ups that Rom is only for GSM buy try that app or v6 supercharger script both helps a lot
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I use v6 supercharger and titanium backup to move most of my apps to sdcard. I usually hover around 190-200mb free. And that is with all gameloft games, shadowgun, and about a total of 40+ games. I am also on stock Verizon rom with all bloat deleted via titanium. No lag anywhere. Everything is silky smooth.
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Try doing a clean flash and delete all the stock crap apps, then try with Ram manager, on my play i feel that supercharger is not helping in games, niether on battery life, i will try using zram from doomkernel.
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How do I enable the zram? I have the DooMKernel already installed.
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Im searching onto that XD
beez1717 said:
How do I enable the zram? I have the DooMKernel already installed.
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here u have file to enable zram (flash it):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25610363&postcount=2226
Try using auto memory manager
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i think about your problem with ram
(every method need root, some recovery too)
U can make swap file/partition if u have enough fast sdcard (i heard that min. is class 4, but more=better). Partition can be created using recovery i think (I never need this). Swap file can be created using a-swapper or Swapper for Root - I've newer used it too
Why the hell do so many people ***** about the lack of this and that? You had to known what you were getting into BEFORE you bought the damn thing! If not your just a retard and should sell your phone and buy something you'll be happy with or just deal with it
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yes flashing custom kernel is a good option to aid in that aspect.
thatsupnow said:
Why the hell do so many people ***** about the lack of this and that? You had to known what you were getting into BEFORE you bought the damn thing! If not your just a retard and should sell your phone and buy something you'll be happy with or just deal with it
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I switched from an OG droid so having 512 mb of ram is a dream in my opinion. Lol. I appreciate what I have and that is a sweet gaming phone that cost me $35 because I got the phone free and only had to pay the CA tax on the full unsubsidized price of the phone. I love my phone to death! Sure I could do with more ram but it works just fine for me as is ^_^
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beez1717 said:
I switched from an OG droid so having 512 mb of ram is a dream in my opinion. Lol. I appreciate what I have and that is a sweet gaming phone that cost me $35 because I got the phone free and only had to pay the CA tax on the full unsubsidized price of the phone. I love my phone to death! Sure I could do with more ram but it works just fine for me as is ^_^
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Exactly! Its not the absolute best but it is great none the less, it just seems like alot of people get the thing then come straight here to ***** about what it doesn't have. Makes me wonder where their mind was when they bought it or got it on contract
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V6 supercharge helps.
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kojinmalia said:
Dunno for your, but for me it's hell. After boot's over, i have about 100mb of RAM avalaible and as it gets around 40mb, phone gets very laggy (like, call starts 2minutes after pressing call button...)
That happens quickly of course, since most apps use around 20mb (browser much more)... After that, only thing to do is reboot... And that take some time! And it can takesSo is there a way to "improve" that?
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have tried to use the true ancestor rom?? I use the version 1.4b, and I have alrederor of 250 mb of free ram with facebook, and browser active player reaches 200 mb!!

Where is my free ram?

Ok, i get it. I know how android control ram, free ram is wasted ram and if app needs ram then system will end some apps but seriously?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/40ax2lgrrmfofqf/2013-02-26 23.08.02.png
19 MB free? Is it normal? Apex launcher reload too often. There isn't any super consuming app on neither list nor in "cached app".
I just checked on SystemPanel Lite and there is "Interface 110MB"
I am using Paranoid Android 3+ with AK Purity kernel.
After reboot and I got 150-200 MB (Interface - 38 MB). Just wondering for how long.
How much free ram have you got just right now? How often your launcher reload?
Thanks
43 available ram at the moment. Launcher doesn't redraw often. Running aokp mr1 build 4.
271mb free. Launcher never redraws, system overall very snappy. Only leave Messaging, Phone and Chrome in recent apps.
My phones currently at just over a week uptime with 265mb free, and I never clear recent apps. Also no launcher redraws using nova prime.
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166mb free..
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342 free...
What apps do you have installed? And I'm betting that pie or lmt or whatever it is is going to end up being responsible for a lot it memory usage too.
Also, your rom could just be heavy on theory usage. The more tweaks/customizations/options, the memory used.
Edit: also, how many widgets do you have?
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While we're all throwing out our stats: 10 days, 9 hours uptime; 100MB free. I have no launcher redraws.
200+ free ram
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geoffcorey said:
342 free...
What apps do you have installed? And I'm betting that pie or lmt or whatever it is is going to end up being responsible for a lot it memory usage too.
Also, your rom could just be heavy on theory usage. The more tweaks/customizations/options, the memory used.
Edit: also, how many widgets do you have?
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So much free ram~Which ROM have you flashed?
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brantzlee said:
So much free ram~Which ROM have you flashed?
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Cm10.1. I have around 80 apps.
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Are you using tibu to restore apps. I had the same problem until I did a clean install and let market auto restore. Then reboot phone and you should be good to go.
Thanks for posts guys.
It had to be memory leak or something. After restart it is quite better but still. I track memory usage from that moment and I think I have just too many apps. Many of them start their services and not end it. Right now I have cleared recent apps and 170mb free.
According to Play Store I have 107 apps installed

Maximum RAM memory is used

Hi
It may be stupid question, Although all apps are closed maximum ram is used. System uses the ram for backend running applications but how can I get free up some RAM memory?
Rom: AOKP
Thanks in advance
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Kill unnecessary services running in the bg. Recent apps is just a list of recent apps not running ones.
And since RAM is random access memory saying RAM memory is like calling an ATM an ATM machine.
How do I kill bg services?
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Settings\apps\running.
I stopped the running apps & clear end cache processes but it didn't free only few MB
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ipskang said:
I stopped the running apps & clear end cache processes but it didn't free only few MB
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try to update to build 5 i understand that they fix ram leaking error
Build 5 improved it a lot
Thank you for the help
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Or saying vin number God that drives me nuts
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Noob question

If you root and rom your phone will it get rid of the 9gig of bloat? Like if the rom takes up 3 gigs will it free up 6 gigs that Samsung stock takes up or just add to it and make it 12 gigs used?
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re: free space
phantasybm said:
If you root and rom your phone will it get rid of the 9gig of bloat? Like if the rom takes up 3 gigs will it free up 6 gigs that Samsung stock takes up or just add to it and make it 12 gigs used?
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Rooting has nothing to do with bloatware or bloat, before and after rooting the free space will basically remain the same.
Rooting never affected the free or used space of any android phones.
With the stock or rooted stock rom the free space will not change.
Also your math about free and used space just don't seem to compute.
But in any case I wish you the best of luck.
(you will need it).............
Thanks. I wasn't using exact math just random numbers to get a point across. I just know our phone comes with 8gigs of free space and the other 8 gigs are being used by Samsung. My question was if we rooted are we able to take back some of that space Samsung uses or does the rom just take away from the space allocated to use by Samsung
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After you root use a program called titanium backup to freeze or uninstall bloat.
Or once rooted flash a bloat free Rom.
Yes, you get the space back
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phantasybm said:
Thanks. I wasn't using exact math just random numbers to get a point across. I just know our phone comes with 8gigs of free space and the other 8 gigs are being used by Samsung. My question was if we rooted are we able to take back some of that space Samsung uses or does the rom just take away from the space allocated to use by Samsung
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That's where you are wrong, our phones come with 16gb and the free space is almost 10GB before you add any apps or anything else in it.
As soon as you root the phone and flash a good custom rom the free space will go up at least 500MB
because when the devs create these custom roms they usually remove a lot of bloatware.
A good custom rom after being debloated and deoxedized and whatever else the devs do to it takes up approx 1.2GB or less, usually less.
Thats what i wanted to know thank you.
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Another way to improve battery life.

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but. One thing I have done is remove all the clutter and sweep it under the rug. I never realized how much useless crap I actually install. Could be 150 to 200 apps. Recently what I did was rely on titanium backup for app storage. Basicly all I do on a fresh install is restore the bare minimum. For example, only the apps on my home screen. Anything more than that is too much. All the rest of the crap I leave it in the closet and if I really do need it I can quickly install it in seconds with titanium. By only having 6 or 10 apps vs. 200 apps for some reason my battery last much longer. You will be surprised at how many of those apps never get instaled after a week or two.
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I never have that many apps I stick with around 10-30 apps
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I have 141 apps (including blaotware) and I don't think uninstalling them will make a difference since most apps behave them selves and the other apps I just greenify them
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Oh, now. im talking about downloaded.
XxKINGxX2580 said:
Oh, now. im talking about downloaded.
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Yeah I know, there's only a
Like 20 bloatware apps, so over a 100 downloaded apps
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kevinrubio1 said:
I have 141 apps (including blaotware) and I don't think uninstalling them will make a difference since most apps behave them selves and the other apps I just greenify them
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Yes, this is the same idea. However not installing them from the get go leaves so much more space for the phone to do it's job. Just saying I noticed an improvement and it worth a try. With how many times we flash from one rom to another and then restore. You all got nothing to loose.
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With that many apps I can see how it would help, but damn I struggle to find 25 apps I would even want lol.
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All of my 30 apps which is few amount are more less root related resource apps that actually come in handy on a phon3 like titanium...zedge..setcpu...cpuspy...xda
..wikipedia... and maybe a game or two.
People that have more than 50 apps probably never even use them.. the most widely used part of any phone is sms txt messaging even over phone calls... and then the camera
Every other one of the million apps on android are mostly corny and useless.
Im sure there are a wide number of kool and use full ones but really think about the average app u run across.Its likely dumb!
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I think the goal is to improve battery life without ultimately sacrificing user experience.
Less apps does mean less things consuming ram and activating GPS, data etc which does consumes battery tho.
Every once in a while try just enabling power saver and closing apps when you don't need them.
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