Hello there I'm looking for a reasonably priced unlocked Android phone to take abroad with me this coming fall. I won't be using data services so that being said, how long would the battery be expected to last with moderate to high usage? (good bit of texting, some calls/pictures, and some wifi Web browsing). Thanks! Searched around and couldn't find this bit of information.
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How are you expecting to make calls? If you literally only have a voice-only SIM when you're there and you'll be using the phone heavily on WiFi, the battery life won't be drastically better than if you were on mobile data. The screen is the largest drain on the phone, and if you're still using data over WiFi you'll maybe get to 2 days of usage on a stock phone.
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martonikaj said:
How are you expecting to make calls? If you literally only have a voice-only SIM when you're there and you'll be using the phone heavily on WiFi, the battery life won't be drastically better than if you were on mobile data. The screen is the largest drain on the phone, and if you're still using data over WiFi you'll maybe get to 2 days of usage on a stock phone.
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There's an option in settings to turn off data. You still get voice, you don't need to turn on airplane mode or get a voice-only sim.
But I agree, battery won't be drastically better, I have data turned off and my batt times have been similar to the average times posted here
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There's an option in settings to turn off data. You still get voice, you don't need to turn on airplane mode or get a voice-only sim.
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Yes I know you can turn off data . I asked how he intends to make calls because if he will actually have a SIM in and connecting to towers for calls, battery life will not be drastically better than if he had data turned on. If, however, he was making VOIP calls over WiFi with airplane mode on, he'd likely see a large improvement in battery life.
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Yeah I realize keeping the antenna on will consume battery...I would probably be surfing the Web on wifi for 30 minutes to an hour max each day. Should I look at getting the extended battery? As long as I can get a full day (18-24 hours) with moderate to high usage I'm fine.
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Hi My Friends ,
when I use mobile data networking ( GSM & HSPA ) it drains so fast , cant i just go for edge , there is function for it in iphone , you can turn off or on 3g , is there any function in nexus ?
Because it drains so fast , it drains one percentile per a min , it means that battery drains in 2 hours
Google are you kidding us ?
Its not the data. Its probably what you're doing all together. Actively using data means that 1) the screen is on, which is the biggest drain and 2) the processor is actively running, which is the 2nd biggest drain.
If you want to switch to EDGE only, go to Settings > More... > Mobile networks > "Use only 2G networks"
You'll still get about the same battery drain because the screen will still be on, and the processor will still be working. Any savings you get from slower data will probably be wasted by keeping the screen on longer to complete the task.
I'm assuming you just got the phone? Use it regularly for a few days and stop watching your battery % and you'll be fine. Checking your battery just drains more battery...
Believe me i have been doing nothing , and it drains so much fast compared to HTC Sensation , my gf has a htc sensation and it also use 4g and we dont use it , and the result is HTC drains 2 % and mine ( galaxy nexus ) drains 17 % , we dont have any app under working , believe me this phone is the worst second thing ive ever had ( first one is Iphone 4s )
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Its not the data. Its probably what you're doing all together. Actively using data means that 1) the screen is on, which is the biggest drain and 2) the processor is actively running, which is the 2nd biggest drain.
If you want to switch to EDGE only, go to Settings > More... > Mobile networks > "Use only 2G networks"
You'll still get about the same battery drain because the screen will still be on, and the processor will still be working. Any savings you get from slower data will probably be wasted by keeping the screen on longer to complete the task.
I'm assuming you just got the phone? Use it regularly for a few days and stop watching your battery % and you'll be fine. Checking your battery just drains more battery...
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Its not the data. Its probably what you're doing all together. Actively using data means that 1) the screen is on, which is the biggest drain and 2) the processor is actively running, which is the 2nd biggest drain.
If you want to switch to EDGE only, go to Settings > More... > Mobile networks > "Use only 2G networks"
You'll still get about the same battery drain because the screen will still be on, and the processor will still be working. Any savings you get from slower data will probably be wasted by keeping the screen on longer to complete the task.
I'm assuming you just got the phone? Use it regularly for a few days and stop watching your battery % and you'll be fine. Checking your battery just drains more battery...
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I feel like this phone is subject to trolls, man. Trolls and people who don't know how to use it...
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my LTE nexus battery drains very fast when im at class, and im assuming that because i have a very very weak data signal, to where it doesnt really work at all
Sell it and get the sensation then
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Why so resigned? maybe you have an app not playing nice and/or draining more on ICS than in a previous phone. I use my phone for heavy use and sometimes drop about 10-15% in an hour.
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I feel like this phone is subject to trolls, man. Trolls and people who don't know how to use it...
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u know what , ive been using android for two years ( htc , samsung , lg ) and dont judge me as using this phone efficient , I have knowladge about computer and smartphone almost your age
uninstall all your apps.
check all settings of apps still on the phone.
and see if the battery is better.
often its an app that is using a lot of CPU or Data in the background causing it to never really sleep.
Maybe use CPUSpy to see if its the cpu which is causing the drain.
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u know what , ive been using android for two years ( htc , samsung , lg ) and dont judge me as using this phone efficient , I have knowladge about computer and smartphone almost your age
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So with all that knowledge, you wrote this?
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Hi My Friends ,
when I use mobile data networking ( GSM & HSPA ) it drains so fast , cant i just go for edge , there is function for it in iphone , you can turn off or on 3g , is there any function in nexus ?
Because it drains so fast , it drains one percentile per a min , it means that battery drains in 2 hours
Google are you kidding us ?
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Is that even possible?
Tone down the attitude, especially the you know more than his age stuff... it ain't doing you any favours.
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Its not the data. Its probably what you're doing all together. Actively using data means that 1) the screen is on, which is the biggest drain and 2) the processor is actively running, which is the 2nd biggest drain.
If you want to switch to EDGE only, go to Settings > More... > Mobile networks > "Use only 2G networks"
You'll still get about the same battery drain because the screen will still be on, and the processor will still be working. Any savings you get from slower data will probably be wasted by keeping the screen on longer to complete the task.
I'm assuming you just got the phone? Use it regularly for a few days and stop watching your battery % and you'll be fine. Checking your battery just drains more battery...
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I have the same problem as therollingstone - I get about 6hrs of screen-on time on Wifi and 2-2.5 hours on data, nothing showing up in Battery stats tho, must have something to do with the network...
Usually its some rouge app running in the background. Management people!
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Use wifi whenever possible guys. It's a lot more stable and battery efficient than using mobile data.
Therollingstone said:
u know what , ive been using android for two years ( htc , samsung , lg ) and dont judge me as using this phone efficient , I have knowladge about computer and smartphone almost your age
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Looks like you might want to go back to the drawing board and spend another 2 years trying to learn Android. Surely with your vast knowledge of smartphones and computers you would have figured out the problem by now. Hint: It's you. Damn, well I gave you the answer.
In all seriousness, you are the reason for the problem. You control the apps installed. You control the permissions these apps are allowed to have. It is your job to monitor activity and make sure none are misbehaving. Don't blame Samsung, Google, or anyone else.
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Antennas
Wifi
Consumes more energy per time when trasmitting than mobile data, BUT...
Takes less time to transmit data, espescially large files, so it consumes overall less energy.
Wifi scans for a connection and pings the router less often than mobile data, thus consuming less energy at idle
Bluetooth
Consumes a small amount of power at idle to connect to new devices
Scanning for deveices consumes more energy
While connected, very little energy is consumed unless data is transmitted.
GPS
Unless an application specifically invokes the GPS antenna, it will not consume power
Using constant GPS updates (as in Navigation apps) will consume a large amount of power
Some apps will have bugs in them which will keep GPS on indefinitely. Try reinstalling those applications first, then remove if necessary.
Mobile Data
2G antennas consume the LEAST amount of energy at idle, but because they take so long to trasmit data, they can kill your battery.
3G antennas are Ok at idle, but take less time to transmit data, so are the best all around for traveling around metropilitan areas.
4G Antennas are FAST, but consume the most power. Best to leave these off when in transit, and used for stationary, stable connections
All Antennas consume much more power idling in areas of bad reception. So if you know you're going somewhere with poor reception, and don't need data, turn it off until needed (Settings->Wireless&Networks ->More ->Mobile Networks-> "Data Enabled"; "Data Roming" OFF; "Use Only 2G Networks"
This is from the guide to galaxy nexus battery life
waiaung1 said:
Use wifi whenever possible guys. It's a lot more stable and battery efficient than using mobile data.
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Of course, but should I just use my phone only at home? -.-
3ddyz said:
Of course, but should I just use my phone only at home? -.-
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Poor troll attempt..... He said whenever possible, not all the time....
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Therollingstone said:
Hi My Friends ,
when I use mobile data networking ( GSM & HSPA ) it drains so fast , cant i just go for edge , there is function for it in iphone , you can turn off or on 3g , is there any function in nexus ?
Because it drains so fast , it drains one percentile per a min , it means that battery drains in 2 hours
Google are you kidding us ?
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I never turn off Wifi, H+, 3G or GPS. Sometimes I forget to turn off Bluetooth after I get out of my car and just leave it on for the heck of it, that while a blue LED is blinking on all the time to notify me Bluetooth is on. It would still last me the 6-8 hours i'm away from home with regular usage of browsing, checking mail, messaging and stuff until I get back, and even then it would still have some power in it. Lasting only two hours means something is wrong and I doubt it's the data networking. Check background services and widgets refresh intervals.
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Poor troll attempt..... He said whenever possible, not all the time....
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Wasn't trolling, only saying that I think that the data connection is draining battery as I'm getting 6hrs screen time browsing with 50% brightness against 2-2.5hours of data browsing with 25% brightness. So, I think there IS a problem other than the screen that maybe someone has the answer to...
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Wasn't trolling, only saying that I think that the data connection is draining battery as I'm getting 6hrs screen time browsing with 50% brightness against 2-2.5hours of data browsing with 25% brightness. So, I think there IS a problem other than the screen that maybe someone has the answer to...
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You're getting 6 hours of screen time? I'm calling bull****.
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When I'm at school (5 days a week) most of my classes are in a building where I do not get a lot of reception, aka, my battery gets killed by the phone to keep up the signal. I do get reception, around 1-2 bars, but that still drains the battery extremely fast. Is there any app or something that I can do to help reduce the amount of battery drain?
I don't want to put the phone into air plane mode because I can still send and receive text messages, but it's just very slow.
Have you tried putting it in cdma only mode?
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You could save a lot of battery life by either connecting to a wifi hotspot (if available) or by turning off background data. The problem your phones having is that it has to turn the gain way up on its cellular radio in order to transmit and receive data. By reducing the amount of background data usage (or off loading it to another network with better signal--i.e. wifi) you'll save a lot of juice.
If you can't do either, there are some things you can do with Tasker to reduce data usage to windows of time instead of always on. May be something to consider.
- chris
isinisterx said:
When I'm at school (5 days a week) most of my classes are in a building where I do not get a lot of reception, aka, my battery gets killed by the phone to keep up the signal. I do get reception, around 1-2 bars, but that still drains the battery extremely fast. Is there any app or something that I can do to help reduce the amount of battery drain?
I don't want to put the phone into air plane mode because I can still send and receive text messages, but it's just very slow.
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Drop it into 2G only or connect to WiFi.
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Have you tried putting it in cdma only mode?
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He's in Canada, so using the GSM model.
Give juice defender a try. It used to almost double the battery life on my old X10 when I worked in a building that I could only get 1 bar at best.
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Give juice defender a try. It used to almost double the battery life on my old X10 when I worked in a building that I could only get 1 bar at best.
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JD sucks on the Nexus, unless it has gotten an update since last month.. WiFi doesn't want to reconnect. I've seen others say the same thing.
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JD sucks on the Nexus, unless it has gotten an update since last month.. WiFi doesn't want to reconnect. I've seen others say the same thing.
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yessss someone else with the wifi problem.when in like a perfect wifi signal zone, my friends gnex connect oerfectly and mine just says saved, wont connect to the networj
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So my stock JB 4.1.1 GSM Nexus is having some issues regarding the wifi, specifically the sleep policy. I have it set to turn off when the phone is sleeping but whenever I go to look at my battery consumption, it shows the wifi as being active all day long. Has anyone else experienced this/ can you reccomend a fix? Thanks!
Same problem here; wifi is always on for me on stock 4.1.1. Anyone have advice?
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Not sure why you'd want to turn WiFi off when the screen is off?
But yes, the "advanced" settings on WiFi are a bit finnicky for people. I've noticed that they don't always stick. Just gotta try toggling it a few times over and over.
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Not sure why you'd want to turn WiFi off when the screen is off?
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To save battery.
martonikaj said:
But yes, the "advanced" settings on WiFi are a bit finnicky for people. I've noticed that they don't always stick. Just gotta try toggling it a few times over and over.
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Thanks, I'll try this
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To save battery.
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You think wifi consumes more juice than cellular radios do? or do you shut those down as well?
animal24 said:
You think wifi consumes more juice than cellular radios do? or do you shut those down as well?
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I know it does because my battery lasts longer when I manually shut off wifi.
Wifi will never consume more battery than the cellular radio.
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Wifi consumes more battery idling. 3g consumes more battery surfing.
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I know it does because my battery lasts longer when I manually shut off wifi.
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Over a whole day's use, if you're on WiFi the whole time you'll use less battery then if you're on the mobile network. The idle battery use is higher but your time connected to transfer data (and therefore battery used) is much much lower.
idling in 2g saves allot more battery than Wi-Fi
Turning off the phone is the best battery saver. But everyone knows wifi is the best option if you have it. 3g runs your battery down way faster. Even though most people have known this for yrs, its even in the tips section when you go into your sprint account. "Wifi to save battery" or something like that.
I use juice defender to turn off all radios when the screen is off. WiFi and 3g will pop back on within seconds of the screen being back on. I know not everyone finds juice defender useful, but I love it
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I have noticed that when I am on 3G, my battery drains very rapidly. Usually like 3% a minute. Is there anyway to fix this, if this is abnormal?
ra9b said:
I have noticed that when I am on 3G, my battery drains very rapidly. Usually like 3% a minute. Is there anyway to fix this, if this is abnormal?
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There's no fix to signal related drain. There are only two things that can be fixed really:
1. drain related to apps including unwanted prevention of deep sleep - wakelocks are normal
2. drain related to screen - lower brightness
3g drain is related to signal strength which there is no fix and 3g drains faster than wifi. Also, the older the battery, the less of a charge it can handle. If you're in an exceptionally poor signal area sometimes Verizon can get a signal extender. I haven't dealt with that but I've heard that sometimes happens if signal is bad.
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I have noticed that when I am on 3G, my battery drains very rapidly. Usually like 3% a minute. Is there anyway to fix this, if this is abnormal?
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More than likley means that the phone isnt getting a good signal, and is using more battery trying to stay connected. You can try updating to the latest radio, and prl. Has it always done this, or did it just start recently?
Though 3% a minute is really fast. I usually am closer to 1% every minute of two of screen on time depending on signal. Keep in mind battery drain is not linear meaning it may seem to drop off faster at different percentages. I don't know the details of this but this may help:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Thanks tiny and cmlusco. And no cmlusco, it has always done this. I did update my radio to yours (I don't remember which one exactly) and that helped. I'll search how to update prl. And thanks tiny. I'll look into that link.
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And yeah, I have weak signal where I live (-92 dB usually) but I experience this multiple places.
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ra9b said:
Thanks tiny and cmlusco. And no cmlusco, it has always done this. I did update my radio to yours (I don't remember which one exactly) and that helped. I'll search how to update prl. And thanks tiny. I'll look into that link.
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To update the prl just dial *228 and select option 2.
I feel your pain. I work in an area of Tampa that has zero service and I mean ZERO. My phone tries desperately to cling to a signal and the battery drain is mind blowing. I usually have my phone in airplane mode and switch it off now and then to check for missed calls and what not. One of the roms I was using completely lost 3G and this was while I was at work. I had to change to a different rom after messing around with **778* I couldn't get it back.
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I feel your pain. I work in an area of Tampa that has zero service and I mean ZERO. My phone tries desperately to cling to a signal and the battery drain is mind blowing. I usually have my phone in airplane mode and switch it off now and then to check for missed calls and what not. One of the roms I was using completely lost 3G and this was while I was at work. I had to change to a different rom after messing around with **778* I couldn't get it back.
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That sucks. You need to switch carriers.
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tiny4579 said:
That sucks. You need to switch carriers.
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It certainly sucks. But i dont really think its Verizons fault. I work on an AirForce Base. Cell phone service is scarce within the whole base. It does seem to be worse for Verizon and Sprint users from the people i had asked about it
Alot of the times my weather app will show totally different locations then where i am, I will pickup the weather forecast for Apollo Beach or Gibsonton(i dont even know where this is)
might be my imagination but i noticed this battery drain using 3G more when i switched to CM10.1(4.21) versus CM10(4.12).
but when on Wifi, my battery usage seems adequate to very good
It is your imagination. ROM has no bearing on 3g drain.
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So I have not been getting that great of battery life at all...I've had the phone for 2 weeks so I'm sure it's broken in. Seems like cell standby is eating my battery life , is there any fix for this ?
Edit: seems like the longer my phone is on for the cell standby percentage increases
Cell standby happens when connected to wifi dont think there is a fix
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raw2000j said:
Cell standby happens when connected to wifi dont think there is a fix
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ahh thats what i figured .. i have a 5gb data plan so im on wifi whenever im around it
Ya
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Not wifi
Wifi doesn't affect the cell stanby on my phone. If I turn it to airplane mode and turn the wifi back on cell standby doesn't even show up in my list. It must be some kind of data connection.