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Hi guys,
New to xda.. I own a defy with 2.2.2 official SEA. I want to update to CM7 RC0, without losing the downgrade ability. After reading a lot in xda, I've got a fair amount of knowledge to flash my phone. Just have a couple of queries..
6) Can I restore my phone to send it to warranty after flashing CM7?
- You can in these two situations
1 - You have a full SBF of your original ROM (for carriers that already released 2.2 is very easy to find one)
2 - You have a nandroid backup AND a fixed SBF of the version you need.
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Quick question:
Considering option 1, I have the official ROM (full sbf, 2.2.2 for India) downloaded here. If I flash to CM7, can I re-flash it with the official full sbf to claim warranty? Considering the scenario that I only have contacts and sms to restore and I don't want to restore settings, apps and all. I like to do them anew (even if it takes time).
Technically, that would be like formatting the drive which has the operating system, instead of restoring an image.. Is that possible? Is Nandroid Backup + fixed sbf is the only way to go back to the stock OS to claim warranty?
P.S. - I still don't get what fixed sbf is. Can anyone help?
Just create a backup of your current OS if anything happens restore it.
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ATXiceman512 said:
Just create a backup of your current OS if anything happens restore it.
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You mean Nandroid backup? Can i restore just that file (and not the sbf) in case anything goes wrong?
If your device is rooted download the 1.4.2 version of 2ndinit go into custom recovery and create a backup, then boot back up normally and connect device to the computer and copy the backup to a safe place on your computer, so if you ever need to back it up, you will have the file.
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I mean do I always need an sbf file to restore an image?
No you only need sbf. file to flash a image, to restore and image all you need is a copy of a backup.
Hmm.. okay... Consider this scenario:
1. I'm having official 2.2.2 SEA ROM
2. I just want to root, install a custom recovery (take a backup in Nandroid), make changes to the current ROM and I'm NOT flashing a new ROM ie like CM7.
3. Can I just restore the backup from recovery if something goes wrong (without any sbf of course)?
4. Do I still have to install 2nd init in that case?
P.S. - Thanks to your patient replies bro.. Much appreciated
Yes you can downgrade back to sea version using sbf file
Just make a nandroid backup if anything goes wrong restore the nandroid you made plus flash it with the fixed or full sbf file of sea and it will bring everything back the way it was that's what i did anyway and it worked
Let me know how cm7 is on the SEA version if it works stable ill install it
Cheers
WolVish said:
Hmm.. okay... Consider this scenario:
1. I'm having official 2.2.2 SEA ROM
2. I just want to root, install a custom recovery (take a backup in Nandroid), make changes to the current ROM and I'm NOT flashing a new ROM ie like CM7.
3. Can I just restore the backup from recovery if something goes wrong (without any sbf of course)?
4. Do I still have to install 2nd init in that case?
P.S. - Thanks to your patient replies bro.. Much appreciated
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Yes 2ndinit is a custom recovery program as long as you have that you wont need sbf. Files. Sbf. Files are used with RSD lite in order to install custom roms. You can use any recovery program you want, best I have found to use on the defy is 1.4.2 version of 2ndinit.
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memz180 said:
Yes you can downgrade back to sea version using sbf file
Just make a nandroid backup if anything goes wrong restore the nandroid you made plus flash it with the fixed or full sbf file of sea and it will bring everything back the way it was that's what i did anyway and it worked
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Why should i use Nandroid, If I want to flash with full sbf of my SEA official ROM?It'll be factory fresh right?
Let me know how cm7 is on the SEA version if it works stable ill install it
Cheers
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Sure.. But in Quarx's thread, It was advised to flash Nordic ROM first before installing CM7.
WolVish said:
Why should i use Nandroid, If I want to flash with full sbf of my SEA official ROM?It'll be factory fresh right?
I just restored my old nandroid and flashed with the fixed sbf but i believe if you do a full sbf it will result in the same thing both ways should work
Sure.. But in Quarx's thread, It was advised to flash Nordic ROM first before installing CM7.
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Yes thats correct some people have installed over the SEA version and its full working im yet to test this i have however tested the NORDIC II version and flashed cm7 beta 6 and that did work nicely but i went back to SEA15 until cm7 releases a more bug free version.
memz180 said:
Yes thats correct some people have installed over the SEA version and its full working im yet to test this i have however tested the NORDIC II version and flashed cm7 beta 6 and that did work nicely but i went back to SEA15 until cm7 releases a more bug free version.
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What i found in the Official SEA 2.2.2 ROM's thread
ok make sure you do not install CM7 directly on this rom, else boot looping.
Please follow the cyanogenmod7 FAQ point 7. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1065798
i tried and was stuck on boot loop.
Again FLASHED this sea15 sbf via rsd lite back to square1 now need to start the process all again.
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Nordic is the way to go it seems..
Nice find because i just got my sea15 back i listened to someone from here like a idiot they said they were running SEA15 with cm7 which is a lie because it when i installed cm7 i got a never ending boot loop so id like to say it does not work with sea15 it took me an 1hr to restore all my stuff back to the way it was so yes NORDIC I or II is the way to go thanks for the info
You're welcome mate.. Heard review that RC0 is way better than Beta6..
Finnaly the thread i've been looking for.
I'm currently on official German 2.2.2. I really want to try out CM7 but the tutorials keep telling me I need a sbf (wich is not available at this moment) of my version if I want to downgrade again.
So just to be sure:
Having a sbf is not an absolute must?
And in the case anything goes awry (eg. boot loop) I just have to restore it via my nandroid backup, unroot, deinstall 2ndInit, wipe and I'm practically back were I started, right?
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I'm currently on official German 2.2.2. I really want to try out CM7 but the tutorials keep telling me I need a sbf (which is not available at this moment) of my version if I want to downgrade again.
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That's correct. Even if you can't find a full sbf (carrier released version of your OS, usually a large file, 200-300 MB), make sure you have one nandroid backup of your data/settings and a fixed sbf (usually stripped down version, less size <50 MB) of your current OS. This would enable you to re-flash in case you have to claim warranty.
So just to be sure:
Having a sbf is not an absolute must?
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I don't think so. You MUST have one if you want to claim warranty. Even if you don't need warranty, still you need either Nordic ROM or UK ROM (sbf files, mind you )to be flashed first to install CM7.. Other ROMs are not recommended.
And in the case anything goes awry (eg. boot loop) I just have to restore it via my nandroid backup, unroot, deinstall 2ndInit, wipe and I'm practically back were I started, right?
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This only works If you flashed with nandroid + fixed sbf of the Nordic/UK ROM.
OR
You have the full sbf of your current ROM, which you can flash from RSD lite.
Hope this helps...
P.S. - Can anyone confirm these answers?
Aww, well i guess i'll be waiting for the sbf files then
Well, thank you anyway for the info.
Who releases this sbf files anyway? Are they somehow extracted out of offical update packages or are they leaked from service contractors?
I am also confused. I thought a nandroid was a complete image of the phone and didn't require an SBF?
Putting it in PC terms I considered a nandroid the equivilent to a ghost image of a HDD? So if I had a PC with XP on it and took a ghost image of that it would be a complete copy of the drive. I could then install Vista on that drive and when / if I wanted to restore the ghost image and it would restore XP onto that system?
I understood an SBF to be a system image as such, but not including the very base level stuff that a nandroid backup would have and hence why you can flash a 2.2.2 rom but need a 2.2 SBF flashed on the phone?
Or am i getting confused?
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Aww, well i guess i'll be waiting for the sbf files then
Well, thank you anyway for the info.
Who releases this sbf files anyway? Are they somehow extracted out of offical update packages or are they leaked from service contractors?
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I think your German 2.2.2 ROM has been added only yesterday. Go to www.motorola.com/update, select your region - Select MOTODEFY - Follow instructions.. (Don't forget to do a hard reset after updating )
Full sbf s are released by the Manufacturers/Carriers. It's like untouched windows XP cd. You can directly update via MSU or use RSDlite to flash it..
Fixed sbf s can be made by anyone, maybe you or me, by making some tweaks, just like we do to Windows XP using nlite (which i'm still not that familiar with )
Hey,
I'm about to update my Cyanogenmod 7.2 RC1 with patch 4 to the latest build. I don't want to loose any of my apps/settings. Can I just install the new rom over my old one without loosing anything? Or is wiping necessary to have a properly working rom?
Use Titanium backup to backup all your data and after updating restore all apps. There are many tutorials on youtube if you need help.
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If you flash latest build you don't need to flash patch v4
Jyrx said:
Use Titanium backup to backup all your data and after updating restore all apps. There are many tutorials on youtube if you need help.
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I already have CM7.2-RC1 with patch 4 flashed, but I want to patch update-cm-7.2.0-02112012-gio-KANG.zip.
The main thing I was wondering is: Can i just flash it and continue using it _without_ doing backups/full wipes etc.
That patch is for the latest build, flash the latest build and the last patch (not patch v4).
You don't seem to understand my question.
No you can't flash it without doing a wipe.
That's not true, at least for the big update (I didn't install the latest patch).
You can flash the update (the one in my signature) without wipe, at least it works on my Gio without a problem.
You may need to do wipe if you use ext4 partition on SD to store applications and it's managed not by S2E (as phiexz said).
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That's not true, at least for the big update (I didn't install the latest patch).
You can flash the update (the one in my signature) without wipe, at least it works on my Gio without a problem.
You may need to do wipe if you use ext4 partition on SD to store applications and it's managed not by S2E (as phiexz said).
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Thank you JustVass,
I'll try it, but maybe i'll do backups just in case Luckily I am using S2E.
Make backups with Titanium Backup.
Flash the new version without wiping.
Problems? Wipe, restore as needed.
Incremental updates with minor changes often work fine without a wipe in between.
Heck, I flashed an ICS alpha on my Nexus, forgot to wipe, and it booted up with only a few issues (mostly widget/launcher related). Wiped because I didn't want to take any chances, but I think you get the point.
bassically, u dont need wipe data or cache
u need wipe if u want to install as fresh rom or u have problem without doing wipe data
Ok thanks guys, it really wasn't covered in anywhere. At least i didn't find anything about it after searching
You might still need to wipe when upgrading from 7.2RC1 to latest 7.2.
At least I had issues with say alarm notification - went alarm goes off and shows a dialog tapping any button makes the phone completely locked (until you reboot it... long hold and reboot menu still working there). Same with any other notification that turns on the screen after you locked it I think (I had same issues with SMS notification).
So I propose you do the following: update to new 7.2, back up apps (I used Titanium), contacts & SMS, move your apps from SD-ext (or if there's not enough space just delete them) - you need this step to avoid issues with apps reappearing but not working after you re-install S2E, then wipe, then re-install S2E, Titanium and restore everything back.
Hi, I am using a desire HD with the sabsa prime 6.0 rom installed. Version 7.0 is already out and I want to know how to update my rom from 6.0 to 7.0 without deleting anything and with everything to stay the same just like stock rom updates. Is this possible? Please reply.
Sure it's easy. Just flash the new version in recovery without wiping anything and you're good to go.
I have done this many times before with no problems.
Muikkuman said:
Sure it's easy. Just flash the new version in recovery without wiping anything and you're good to go.
I have done this many times before with no problems.
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Thanks bro
I know its a pain in the ass to restore everything and it always seems more easier to flash ROMs without wiping anything. But I'd still suggest wiping before flashing for stability reasons. You might encounter some FC's or even crashes.. say if you lose your data because of a crash.. then you'll have no way to recover because you were lazy and never backed up anything.
There are ways to backup almost everything : sms, call logs, apps, etc.. Use them. Or at the very least take a nandroid backup before you flash a new version without wiping.
Yes Do that. Make a Nandroid backup before flashing without full wipe. Some crash can happen so you can come back to 6.0 version. If there's no crash and no lags it would be cool for you.
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Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom
thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?
Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?
u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock
I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?
Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid
I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.
you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224
If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
Thaenor said:
ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.
ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it
Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
mosta_9741 said:
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.
Hi
I have been using the stock HTC Sense Android releases since I bought my phone about 1.5 years ago. Now that HTC, according the rumors, are no longer updating the HTC One X, I have decided to use CyanogenMod instead. For now I am using the stable 10.2 release, but I am planning on installing the 11.0 nighly, just to try it out. If the current nightly is working great for me I might keep it.
The only thing that I am concerned about is my apps and data. According to the posts in the ROM-section I can just flash a new release on top of an old one, but what will have happen to my data, settings and apps? Will the stay on the phone just like with the OTA-updates from HTC?
CTSRP said:
Hi
I have been using the stock HTC Sense Android releases since I bought my phone about 1.5 years ago. Now that HTC, according the rumors, are no longer updating the HTC One X, I have decided to use CyanogenMod instead. For now I am using the stable 10.2 release, but I am planning on installing the 11.0 nighly, just to try it out. If the current nightly is working great for me I might keep it.
The only thing that I am concerned about is my apps and data. According to the posts in the ROM-section I can just flash a new release on top of an old one, but what will have happen to my data, settings and apps? Will the stay on the phone just like with the OTA-updates from HTC?
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Yes All the data on the "sdcard" is still gonna be there.
Images, music, or something you downloaded is still going to be there.
However you will lose apps, and their data.
Usually we back them up using Titanium Backup. (Requires Root)
Restoring System apps' Data isn't recommanded for CM 11.0
If you got more questions, I'll answer them.
I wish you good luck
teamomivida said:
Yes All the data on the "sdcard" is still gonna be there.
Images, music, or something you downloaded is still going to be there.
However you will lose apps, and their data.
Usually we back them up using Titanium Backup. (Requires Root)
Restoring System apps' Data isn't recommanded for CM 11.0
If you got more questions, I'll answer them.
I wish you good luck
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Hi
Thanks for the quick response.
I know that the data that is on my "sdcard" will stay as they are, but all apps that I download from Google Play are installed in the NAND-memory and normally when I change the ROM I do a wipe data/factory reset from CWM recovery.
But as stated in this post I can do the following when switching between CM11.0 releases:
Upgrading from earlier version of CyanogenMod 11.0:
Copy the CM 11.0 zip to your SD card
Boot into Recovery
DO A BACKUP
Flash the CM 11.0 zip from SD card
Flash the boot.img included in the CM 11.0 zip via Fastboot if necessary. If in doubt, flash it.
Reboot
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By just looking at these steps it doesn't seem like it will remove any of my existing apps or settings.
CTSRP said:
Hi
Thanks for the quick response.
I know that the data that is on my "sdcard" will stay as they are, but all apps that I download from Google Play are installed in the NAND-memory and normally when I change the ROM I do a wipe data/factory reset from CWM recovery.
But as stated in this post I can do the following when switching between CM11.0 releases:
By just looking at these steps it doesn't seem like it will remove any of my existing apps or settings.
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I believe it's better to wipe data, and cache.
I am not sure if it works without wiping data and cache,and also not sure if it doesn't remove your apps.
So again, if you're rooted, just install Titanium backup. and follow the usual steps to flash the rom.