Hey,
I'm about to update my Cyanogenmod 7.2 RC1 with patch 4 to the latest build. I don't want to loose any of my apps/settings. Can I just install the new rom over my old one without loosing anything? Or is wiping necessary to have a properly working rom?
Use Titanium backup to backup all your data and after updating restore all apps. There are many tutorials on youtube if you need help.
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If you flash latest build you don't need to flash patch v4
Jyrx said:
Use Titanium backup to backup all your data and after updating restore all apps. There are many tutorials on youtube if you need help.
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I already have CM7.2-RC1 with patch 4 flashed, but I want to patch update-cm-7.2.0-02112012-gio-KANG.zip.
The main thing I was wondering is: Can i just flash it and continue using it _without_ doing backups/full wipes etc.
That patch is for the latest build, flash the latest build and the last patch (not patch v4).
You don't seem to understand my question.
No you can't flash it without doing a wipe.
That's not true, at least for the big update (I didn't install the latest patch).
You can flash the update (the one in my signature) without wipe, at least it works on my Gio without a problem.
You may need to do wipe if you use ext4 partition on SD to store applications and it's managed not by S2E (as phiexz said).
JustVass said:
That's not true, at least for the big update (I didn't install the latest patch).
You can flash the update (the one in my signature) without wipe, at least it works on my Gio without a problem.
You may need to do wipe if you use ext4 partition on SD to store applications and it's managed not by S2E (as phiexz said).
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Thank you JustVass,
I'll try it, but maybe i'll do backups just in case Luckily I am using S2E.
Make backups with Titanium Backup.
Flash the new version without wiping.
Problems? Wipe, restore as needed.
Incremental updates with minor changes often work fine without a wipe in between.
Heck, I flashed an ICS alpha on my Nexus, forgot to wipe, and it booted up with only a few issues (mostly widget/launcher related). Wiped because I didn't want to take any chances, but I think you get the point.
bassically, u dont need wipe data or cache
u need wipe if u want to install as fresh rom or u have problem without doing wipe data
Ok thanks guys, it really wasn't covered in anywhere. At least i didn't find anything about it after searching
You might still need to wipe when upgrading from 7.2RC1 to latest 7.2.
At least I had issues with say alarm notification - went alarm goes off and shows a dialog tapping any button makes the phone completely locked (until you reboot it... long hold and reboot menu still working there). Same with any other notification that turns on the screen after you locked it I think (I had same issues with SMS notification).
So I propose you do the following: update to new 7.2, back up apps (I used Titanium), contacts & SMS, move your apps from SD-ext (or if there's not enough space just delete them) - you need this step to avoid issues with apps reappearing but not working after you re-install S2E, then wipe, then re-install S2E, Titanium and restore everything back.
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Hi all,
Have anyone experienced memory corruption before? (I think that is what is it, or maybe it is mount point failure?)
The symptoms:
1) Every processes in the background force-close: Google Framework services, Titanium Backup etc.
2) Launching a program that saves anything will force-close.
3) Launching a program will ask you to reconfigure its settings again.
The fix is to reboot the phone, and everything will be working again.
I am running the latest custom ROM from cowithgun (w/o OC).
What kind of system log file I can view to see what actually happens?
Any help/clue is appreciated. Thanks.
before thinking your phone is broke I would suggest, take the latest stock Rom ,do a full wipe (also Dalvick cache) flash it and see if your problem is gone.
good luck
AdliHebat, do you have any info for us? Did you solve it? What was the culprit?
No. But i have not yet have a chance to revert stock rom yet. I am living with it right now. Need a reboot every day.
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AdliHebat, do you have any info for us? Did you solve it? What was the culprit?
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It has now become very irritating to me. I suspected corrupted memory card or something like that. The custom ROM is using swapped sdcard, and I guess my sdcard is not very good.
So I have:
1) Create Titanium backup
2) Copy back files i needed to my PC from my sdcard
3) flash back stock 2.3.6 ROM
4) Format Sdcard, format internal usb
5) Root using update.zip method
6) flash CWM
7) Clear cache, clear data, clear dalvik through CWM
8) Remove unnecessary apps and restore my apps/data from Titanium backup.
Seem stable so far.
If you suspect SD card corruption, you can use Mini-Tool to do surface test, it's free and can be used for loads of useful stuff.......
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
Just some update.
I have tried
1) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard swap -- problem still there. USB Storage unexpectedly removed.
2) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard not swapped -- no longer USB Storage unexpectedly removed, but apps will start force close, and in some apps it is telling you database read-only.
3) Go back to stock ROM -- rooted of course. Stable for 2 days.
4) Flash only oc-kernel from latest COW ROM to my stock ROM. Starts to have apps force close after 2 hours.
5) Restore back my nandroid backup of step 4, so supped to be the same like step 4. Hopefully this will last..
So no luck for me on running custom ROM so far. (I did make my own custom ROM without tweaks--remove and add apps and seems stable, but what the point)
Waiting for my class 10 micro-SDcard...
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Just some update.
I have tried
1) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard swap -- problem still there. USB Storage unexpectedly removed.
2) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard not swapped -- no longer USB Storage unexpectedly removed, but apps will start force close, and in some apps it is telling you database read-only.
3) Go back to stock ROM -- rooted of course. Stable for 2 days.
4) Flash only oc-kernel from latest COW ROM to my stock ROM. Starts to have apps force close after 2 hours.
5) Restore back my nandroid backup of step 4, so supped to be the same like step 4. Hopefully this will last..
So no luck for me on running custom ROM so far. (I did make my own custom ROM without tweaks--remove and add apps and seems stable, but what the point)
Waiting for my class 10 micro-SDcard...
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Hi Dude..
I'm not going to make you afraid but i want you aware this issue
Did your phone doing force close to for only STOCK ROM ?
My friend phone have same characteristic as you..
Suddenly the phone had brick
It's not cause by flashing but by hardware also
I post in this thread
Regards
Rio Saputro said:
Hi Dude..
I'm not going to make you afraid but i want you aware this issue
Did your phone doing force close to for only STOCK ROM ?
My friend phone have same characteristic as you..
Suddenly the phone had brick
It's not cause by flashing but by hardware also
I post in this thread
Regards
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No, mine only happens on custom ROM. Stock ROM is stable.
And it never restart.
I restart myself after those apps force close.
AdliHebat said:
No, mine only happens on custom ROM. Stock ROM is stable.
And it never restart.
I restart myself after those apps force close.
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Ok that fine..
You use Titanium back up after flashing custom ROM right..
Probably it cause by not complete back up before
If you wanna try,
Just do factory reset after you flashing Custom ROM and install all apps without titanium backup..*homework
Regards
Rio Saputro said:
Ok that fine..
You use Titanium back up after flashing custom ROM right..
Probably it cause by not complete back up before
If you wanna try,
Just do factory reset after you flashing Custom ROM and install all apps without titanium backup..*homework
Regards
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No, I full wipe from recovery (I use CWM recovery) and install everything fresh on every flash session nowadays. I don't trust Titanium backup anymore.
Yeah n in recovery wipe every single folder...system...data....under mount n storage (CWM)
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Yeah n in recovery wipe every single folder...system...data....under mount n storage (CWM)
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Now that you mentioned it, i never use the format/wipe menu under the mount and storage option.
Maybe next week...i want to convince myself the phone is stable.
happy to see arhd got an update the other day,,,
Just trying to make up my mind if I should flash it.
anyone tried it and noticed any improvement ?
also I understand I don't need to superwipe going from 7.0.4 to 7.1 ,,
my question is can I just place the new update on my sd card and flash it straight away or do I need to do anything like clear caches etc etc ?
also should I make a titanium backup or will flashing it over the old version keep all my old settings, apps etc etc.
Thanks for any help.
I usually put the update on the sdcard and flash it over. Apps and setting are intact except for some eventually system settings included in the update. But if you want to be safe make a backup before flashing the update.
Thank you
michaelopolis said:
happy to see arhd got an update the other day,,,
Just trying to make up my mind if I should flash it.
anyone tried it and noticed any improvement ?
also I understand I don't need to superwipe going from 7.0.4 to 7.1 ,,
my question is can I just place the new update on my sd card and flash it straight away or do I need to do anything like clear caches etc etc ?
also should I make a titanium backup or will flashing it over the old version keep all my old settings, apps etc etc.
Thanks for any help.
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theres something problem with the aroma.......mike fixed it and will be releasing 7.2 tom............
so just do the dirty flash with 7.2.....................:good: :good:
Always wipe dalvik and cache at least. Doing just this is a "dirty flash". As long as data isn't wiped you won't lose anything.
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I am kind of stuck and have searched endlessly...
I am rooted and running AOKP - d2att (4.2.1 JOP40D) Build 1.17.2013
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747
I am trying to update the Rom - Everytime I have updated, I get the "unfortunately, android keyboard (aosp) has stopped" error. I just restore a backup and go to my older version again.
I was preparing to make another backup and noticed I'm out of space, my System Data is taking up 7,938MB!!! I have no idea why or how it got so out of control. I attempted to just do a Factory Reset, it looked as if it worked... however nothing was wiped.
Right now I'm just at a crossroads. I like the custom Rom (minus some serious flaws) but want to be able to update and have some free space. But I'm starting to think returning it to the stock firmware and just settling might be easier?
Any ideas on where I can clear up some space or what I can do to battle the AOSP error? Is there another Rom that may be a better choice, iI know they aren't "better" but an equal alternative maybe. I'm fairly new to all of this but have a decent understanding, I made a switch to Android after owning purely Iphones since the 3G.
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I am kind of stuck and have searched endlessly...
I am rooted and running AOKP - d2att (4.2.1 JOP40D) Build 1.17.2013
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747
I am trying to update the Rom - Everytime I have updated, I get the "unfortunately, android keyboard (aosp) has stopped" error. I just restore a backup and go to my older version again.
I was preparing to make another backup and noticed I'm out of space, my System Data is taking up 7,938MB!!! I have no idea why or how it got so out of control. I attempted to just do a Factory Reset, it looked as if it worked... however nothing was wiped.
Right now I'm just at a crossroads. I like the custom Rom (minus some serious flaws) but want to be able to update and have some free space. But I'm starting to think returning it to the stock firmware and just settling might be easier?
Any ideas on where I can clear up some space or what I can do to battle the AOSP error? Is there another Rom that may be a better choice, iI know they aren't "better" but an equal alternative maybe. I'm fairly new to all of this but have a decent understanding, I made a switch to Android after owning purely Iphones since the 3G.
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Have you tried reflashing the ROM completely again from scratch with a full wipe ?
HOw are you installing the ROM ? When people say update I wonder if they mena a full wipe and flash of the ROM or are you using an updater
hednik said:
Have you tried reflashing the ROM completely again from scratch with a full wipe ?
HOw are you installing the ROM ? When people say update I wonder if they mena a full wipe and flash of the ROM or are you using an updater
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Once I download the update I reboot into recovery. wipe cache and dalvik cache. I make a backup and then..
-install zip from sdcard
-choose zip from sdcard
then pick the downloaded update and then repeat the process with the gapps.
Once it loads, all my contacts and things appear there.. with the AOSP error.
I think after explaining this and reading your post, I should do a full wipe and install the newest version of the ROM. I hate to be a pest, what would be the best way to do this. I have Titanium Backup Pro. I really only care about my contacts and text messages and some apps.
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Once I download the update I reboot into recovery. wipe cache and dalvik cache. I make a backup and then..
-install zip from sdcard
-choose zip from sdcard
then pick the downloaded update and then repeat the process with the gapps.
Once it loads, all my contacts and things appear there.. with the AOSP error.
I think after explaining this and reading your post, I should do a full wipe and install the newest version of the ROM. I hate to be a pest, what would be the best way to do this. I have Titanium Backup Pro. I really only care about my contacts and text messages and some apps.
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You have have to flash the updated gapps if you aren't. They are made for 4.2.2 and nothing earlier. If you flash the same gapps as you flashed earlier you'll get loads of issues.
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You have have to flash the updated gapps if you aren't. They are made for 4.2.2 and nothing earlier. If you flash the same gapps as you flashed earlier you'll get loads of issues.
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Ok, so I have ran the update gapps as well previously. A current status update. I backed up all my pictures, contacts and ran backup of system data with Titanium Pro. I wiped cache, cleared the Delvik cache, wiped data.. just realized I wasn't going into Mounts and Storage and not doing a format /system. That might explain why it was getting so massive. After doing those in the correct order, I flashed the ROM and Gapps and new Kernal. Its currently booting...
Success.. Its up and running the new Rom, however.. I have a new question. I have no apps and everything is back to how it all started. I know I can run titanium backup and restore things. But google is automatically installing my apps back one by one. There has to be a correct way to do this? I'm patiently waiting for it to install titanium so I can restore my texts and settings.
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Knew I was missing something.. I'm stuck now, I don't have enough free space for the new Rom, Gapps and a backup.
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you dont have to make a backup every single time you want to update. thats whats taking up all your internal memory. i have 1 stock backup that i made the day i flashed aokp 4.1.2 and then 1 backup of my current setup. if i ever want/need to restore, i'm all set. if you want to make a backup every single time, move the older files to your PC and keep your most recent 1 or 2 on the phone. that'll give you enough space to move forward
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But google is automatically installing my apps back one by one. There has to be a correct way to do this? I'm patiently waiting for it to install titanium so I can restore my texts and settings.
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Google restoring apps is an option you set during the one time initial setup.
you shouldn't be restoring system data, and it sounds like you're doing that. there are apps to restore texts easily. one that I use is sms backup and restore, which works well and takes maybe a minute.
it's cumbersome to remember every setting so I'd suggest writing them down or something similar.
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Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom
thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?
Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
lafactorial said:
No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?
u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock
I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?
Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid
I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.
you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224
If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
Thaenor said:
ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.
ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it
Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.
Hi
I have been using the stock HTC Sense Android releases since I bought my phone about 1.5 years ago. Now that HTC, according the rumors, are no longer updating the HTC One X, I have decided to use CyanogenMod instead. For now I am using the stable 10.2 release, but I am planning on installing the 11.0 nighly, just to try it out. If the current nightly is working great for me I might keep it.
The only thing that I am concerned about is my apps and data. According to the posts in the ROM-section I can just flash a new release on top of an old one, but what will have happen to my data, settings and apps? Will the stay on the phone just like with the OTA-updates from HTC?
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Hi
I have been using the stock HTC Sense Android releases since I bought my phone about 1.5 years ago. Now that HTC, according the rumors, are no longer updating the HTC One X, I have decided to use CyanogenMod instead. For now I am using the stable 10.2 release, but I am planning on installing the 11.0 nighly, just to try it out. If the current nightly is working great for me I might keep it.
The only thing that I am concerned about is my apps and data. According to the posts in the ROM-section I can just flash a new release on top of an old one, but what will have happen to my data, settings and apps? Will the stay on the phone just like with the OTA-updates from HTC?
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Yes All the data on the "sdcard" is still gonna be there.
Images, music, or something you downloaded is still going to be there.
However you will lose apps, and their data.
Usually we back them up using Titanium Backup. (Requires Root)
Restoring System apps' Data isn't recommanded for CM 11.0
If you got more questions, I'll answer them.
I wish you good luck
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Yes All the data on the "sdcard" is still gonna be there.
Images, music, or something you downloaded is still going to be there.
However you will lose apps, and their data.
Usually we back them up using Titanium Backup. (Requires Root)
Restoring System apps' Data isn't recommanded for CM 11.0
If you got more questions, I'll answer them.
I wish you good luck
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Hi
Thanks for the quick response.
I know that the data that is on my "sdcard" will stay as they are, but all apps that I download from Google Play are installed in the NAND-memory and normally when I change the ROM I do a wipe data/factory reset from CWM recovery.
But as stated in this post I can do the following when switching between CM11.0 releases:
Upgrading from earlier version of CyanogenMod 11.0:
Copy the CM 11.0 zip to your SD card
Boot into Recovery
DO A BACKUP
Flash the CM 11.0 zip from SD card
Flash the boot.img included in the CM 11.0 zip via Fastboot if necessary. If in doubt, flash it.
Reboot
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By just looking at these steps it doesn't seem like it will remove any of my existing apps or settings.
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Hi
Thanks for the quick response.
I know that the data that is on my "sdcard" will stay as they are, but all apps that I download from Google Play are installed in the NAND-memory and normally when I change the ROM I do a wipe data/factory reset from CWM recovery.
But as stated in this post I can do the following when switching between CM11.0 releases:
By just looking at these steps it doesn't seem like it will remove any of my existing apps or settings.
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I believe it's better to wipe data, and cache.
I am not sure if it works without wiping data and cache,and also not sure if it doesn't remove your apps.
So again, if you're rooted, just install Titanium backup. and follow the usual steps to flash the rom.