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Saw this on the front page of xda today. Mr.Highway from team inferno (mt4g) created a guide for porting aosp roms from one device to another.
He said his guide should work for almost any device. Figured id post this in our dev section. I am in no way affiliated with this guide or team inferno. All credit goes to Mr.Highway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512319
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This is useful stuff to an extent, but without sources and drivers, it's near impossible to make an AOSP ROM like ICS as you'd figure. We don't have any of the distinguished code to make the ROM "compatible" with our device.
How about an HTC Sense port? Last i heard, HTC was to release the souce code for the Sense UI or something like that for DEVs.
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How about an HTC Sense port? Last i heard, HTC was to release the souce code for the Sense UI or something like that for DEVs.
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What do you like about sense? If you just want the looks like the 3D interactions... There are launchers for that
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Joy2DaWurld said:
This is useful stuff to an extent, but without sources and drivers, it's near impossible to make an AOSP ROM like ICS as you'd figure. We don't have any of the distinguished code to make the ROM "compatible" with our device.
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you guys have source......
you have had it a few days after the phone launched..
The Widgets really. I like the weather widget and the dock where it says phone and whatnot.
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Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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or CM6, CM5 etc...
A better question would be is a rom ever complete? There will always be bugs that are found that do need to be fixed just like Android in general it's never really "done" there are always updates to it that fix things.
What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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Well you do realize that our phone is CDMA, Proprietary code is not available for some of the hardware which greatly increases the time it takes to develop our phones ports.
If you like the idea of a Complete CyanogenMod you should grab an international GSM phone preferably a stock AOSP device. You will have a "complete" rom alot faster than you ever will with a sprint device.
The OG epic only became officially supported not long ago.
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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol
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cidica said:
There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
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I was told that the Alpha 1 wasn't official.?
There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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I think you mean to say there are multiple AOSP-based (original ICS w/o Touchwiz) ROMs for our phone.
Sbrissen and Darchstar are currently working on CM9 for our phone.
T.C.P. has released AOKP, Gummy, and Codename Android for our phone.
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There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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Anyone is free to take the CM code and build their own ROM. That's the beauty of open source. All they ask is that such derivative builds are labeled as kangs or otherwise make note that they are using CM9's codebase.
Anyone can become a member of CM if they do good work such as committing bug fixes to the project and take a role in supporting CM on a particular device
Darchstar's build should be considered the "official" CM9 build for our phone. He's part of the CM team. However, until he or others are able to build a working kernel from source for the E4GT and not use Samsung's we won't have a truly CM9 build.
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Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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No rom is complete without official ice release.. they don't even have source for our phones yet for ics. Therefore it cannot be completed.. plus kudos to the person who said it will never be complete based off of bugs plus there are always ways to improve a rom regardless; of how "complete" it is.. would you want a dev to make a rom then never update it? They can't make it official until everything is working..
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Nothing is ever finished in android
Notice the carriers always pushing fixes. ICS will probably be updated within a month after official drops.
Just the nature of the beast.
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Android has become more and more complex to develop for (both in terms of skill and computing power), and the true developers (not including people who just modify existing roms) have become more spread out across devices.
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I would be willing to run logcats, test installs, and check features for alpha testing, but I am curious to learn more about whether or not HTC has released the source code on the PrimoC yet. If anyone knows...I wud appreciate the help.
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I would be willing to run logcats, test installs, and check features for alpha testing, but I am curious to learn more about whether or not HTC has released the source code on the PrimoC yet. If anyone knows...I wud appreciate the help.
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No, they haven't.
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I am beginning to wonder if this is Virgin Mobile not letting them. If they won't release the source to the cdma but they will for the GSM then perhaps a reverse compile is possible. If the code is similar enough then using the source from the GSM as a base could yield some source.
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I am beginning to wonder if this is Virgin Mobile not letting them. If they won't release the source to the cdma but they will for the GSM then perhaps a reverse compile is possible. If the code is similar enough then using the source from the GSM as a base could yield some source.
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CDMA CM9 needs custom kernel for audio. That's all I known
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Lloir said:
CDMA CM9 needs custom kernel for audio. That's all I known
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So the hardware should be close, but I see that this is true about the audio...will have to keep one eye on HTC for the source...till then I guess its NoN-sEnSe primo-c 1.1.
I don't think it would be Virgin Mobile calling the shots imo. They would lose potential sales whereas HTC will find a different carrier.
Yeah I just checked with a guy I know that works support for htc. He said its scheduled soon. So at least its soon lol. Just wish he cud say when.
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Molikai1988 said:
Yeah I just checked with a guy I know that works support for htc. He said its scheduled soon. So at least its soon lol. Just wish he cud say when.
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really? cause im honestly saying close to the end of august or beginning of september. This is their track record....
I also talked to them about the kernel source for CDMA/Virgin Mobile USA HTC ONE V, they do have plans to release the source however it takes longer for CDMA vs GSM, something to do with the more proprietary nature of CDMA, we've seen this cause delays with AOSP build on CDMA Nexus Devices, so it doesn't surprise me that it's taking longer to release. However in the mean time the hardware differences between GSM and CDMA variants should be minuscule (cellular data being the obvious one) so could we continue making the build without data/sound and just add those when the drivers are available so time isn't wasted on waiting for sources to be released? I would be willing to test.
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I also talked to them about the kernel source for CDMA/Virgin Mobile USA HTC ONE V, they do have plans to release the source however it takes longer for CDMA vs GSM, something to do with the more proprietary nature of CDMA, we've seen this cause delays with AOSP build on CDMA Nexus Devices, so it doesn't surprise me that it's taking longer to release. However in the mean time the hardware differences between GSM and CDMA variants should be minuscule (cellular data being the obvious one) so could we continue making the build without data/sound and just add those when the drivers are available so time isn't wasted on waiting for sources to be released? I would be willing to test.
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I already have a thread up for CM9. I am releasing a new one today that has sound working and is on par with the GSM version status.
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I already have a thread up for CM9. I am releasing a new one today that has sound working and is on par with the GSM version status.
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Yup just found it, like I said over there, I'll risk my phone in testing (joking, I don't actually believe your build will destroy my phone, this isn't my first beta testing rodeo) for the benefit of the Greater android community.
So, I was all excited to get a Note 2, but then I heard about CyanogenMod being unlikely to support new Exynos devices: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/
So with that in mind... does anyone have a competing phablet to suggest?
Nothing going on in the stickied thread for whose gonna develop for it. Any ideas?
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That seems awfully silly to drop such an anticipated world wide device. Maybe he can't meat the demand of both SG3, and Note 2?
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Nothing going on in the stickied thread for whose gonna develop for it. Any ideas?
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We are still waiting for us release date to even be announced so some devs may not even be that worried about notifying me until they get to see the device hands on.
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StelardActek said:
So, I was all excited to get a Note 2, but then I heard about CyanogenMod being unlikely to support new Exynos devices: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/
So with that in mind... does anyone have a competing phablet to suggest?
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You do know that codeworkx isn't the only developer for CyanogenMod or for Samsung devices. Him dropping support for Exynos devices isn't the end of the world. So what if he left, that's his personal choice & I understand why & completely support him but not everyone shares his views of dropping support for Exynos devices because devices like the S & Note series are very popular & its just a matter of time before some developer get his hand on the device & CyanogenMod will be developed for it. This is just needless panic.
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The HTC One X5 looks good, but no clue on when it'll come out...
And yes #illidan, I realise that another developer may step up, and I do hope that happens. But from the sounds of things, it's not just codeworkx that is dropping Samsung support:
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Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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The HTC One X5 looks good, but no clue on when it'll come out...
And yes #illidan, I realise that another developer may step up, and I do hope that happens. But from the sounds of things, it's not just codeworkx that is dropping Samsung support:
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Yes I'm well aware of the entire so called Exynos development team giving up because of Samsung's retarded ways but as of now I believe it's a 50-50 gamble for device support. Maybe a new maintainer steps up to the batting plate or an old one does (highly unlikely). It's basically up to you & seeing as the Note is the only choice for now if your looking for a phablet. I still believe that the device will receive support.
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A popular device like the Note II will surely get CM. But a point worth considering is the lack of help being provided by Samsung regarding the Exynos processor. So, in the future , development may slow down or there may be loss of particular functionality due to the lack of code or compatible blobs from Samsung for the Exynos.
Of course, there are many talented devs that gonna work on the Note II, but the Team Hacksung not supporting this is definitely a big blow, as they have shown the awesome work they can do with Samsung devices as well as the fact that they have tremendous experience on Samsung devices.
Hrm, this may not be concerning for the veteran android user,but as I plan(ned?) this to be my first android device, it makes me wonder if I should wait and see if there is support for it. I can't a stock anything, let a lone a phone. And unfortunatly this is the only android device I'm really looking forward to.
I've heard some chit chatter as well, as far as development / support not going to be strong but its not going to sway me from buying this phone.. It's still going to be awesome.. Even if its just stock rooted to get rid of system things you don't need
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I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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The nexus line is the way to go
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adampa1006 said:
I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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Apparently if has more to do with the processor. The Snapdragon, TI OMAP, NVidia etc are more forthcoming with code for CM. Sammy however is not, since exynos is a proprietary chip (aka apple).
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fear not
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Apparently if has more to do with the processor. The Snapdragon, TI OMAP, NVidia etc are more forthcoming with code for CM. Sammy however is not, since exynos is a proprietary chip (aka apple).
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I believe that the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy Note 2 is exactly the same as the CPU in the Galaxy S III, Just higher Clocked. And the International Galaxy S III has Cyanogenmod Already, So fear not it will be a easier port. Correct me if I'm wrong
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I believe that the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy Note 2 is exactly the same as the CPU in the Galaxy S III, Just higher Clocked. And the International Galaxy S III has Cyanogenmod Already, So fear not it will be a easier port. Correct me if I'm wrong
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I would assume so, but not sure. Personally, I won't stray away from a stock base. I want those features touted by Samsung. That's why I'm upgrading.
I'm not sure however, how well CM10 runs on the SGS3...and according to what I've read, its not a very good port.
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why dont u people try to build an AOSP rom instead ofa CM....coz probably cm is sumthing that is modifications made to AOSP....and even the touchwiz ui is modified AOSP so if we can have a AOSP build itll probably be easier for us to build these roms..
...if sum one is ready to help me learn about building roms from source ill sure try making CM's and AOKP and paranoid and what not
is better but its based on AOSP.....its like imagine AOSP as a stock rom and CM as a custom rom...wait why imagine..its actually like that....so the basic idea is to improve performance...where CM show up...but whats the base CM uses??...its AOSP....so if we have a perfect AOSP which is obv possible...coz Samsung wouldn't be able to build TouchWiz withouta base...for obv reasons...so why not try building an AOSP first and then continuing with CM
do u even know whatcha sayin?
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Here's some math:
No sources = no base
No base = no sources
No sources = no cm
No cm = no aosp
So unless you try to find a way to make those proprietary sources available then I'd suggest doing some research.
Also even if you tried you'll fail, we have the best devs for sgy working hard for that goal and we're honestly not making good progress. Well except for percy and his cm9 and psycho's cm7 but still a long way from "stable as stock".
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Naman...we haven't tried making AOSP yet so we cant just confirm this and it cant be that it was made for nexus only coz its an open source project so they must have probably kept in mind that many dev's will try to have it on different devices ..... the Gingerbread that our SGY uses is nothing but a custom rom of the aosp which we call as stock....
for obv reasons...samsung would not have made their own android os right...they have used google sources....the point is...the time dev's have spent on making CM if would have been focused on AOSP we might just have a build close enough to psycho's work!
and what ive learned or i might be wrong in this that psycho used aosp's sources for the fixes....Maybe wrong about this...i just read it somewhere here!.....and as our device has the largest community of awesome dev's why not we try the AOSP thing out??
we cant just conclude without trying...can we??......some months back people were like we wont have a CM....we have a working CM7 and CM9 which are working pretty fine except for the driver bugs....same way,we might just end up having an AOSP...
another hope to Young GT-S6310. need a great developers to make it true
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Maybe you should see this. www.cyanogenmod.org/about
And also about android opensource project. Google gives aosp source to all manufacturers as part of aosp allience/programme which they further modify. And first phone running android was not nexus to say that they don't give damn about other devices. And the number of devices running CM is still very low.
Like I said, a friend told me about it.
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If we get a set of experienced Devs who want to help out we might get aosp
Also if stock is like a custom aosp
That means our phone must support AOSP!!
Only need some experience Devs :sly:
As i said its all about aosp....just need sum1 to teach me these sources and setup stuff....i would like to start working on it as soon as possible!
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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i know...thats the reason ive been looking around google for sumthing that could get me some help .........its hard i guess ill have to take percy's help :?
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Veru funny dude! ( --..-- )
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Reynaldi said:
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Really bro?._.
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I am new here.......
Don't be rude and hit thanks
Device : Samsung Galaxy Y
ROM : Hyperion 8 pre gm alsa build 0.2
KERNEL : Savie's
I say start saving money for a new phone.
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I say start saving money for a new phone.
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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man.. they are just stock based roms.. everyone is upgrading these days, android 4.3 has been released and you are still on 2.3.6. Which makes you guys really outdated..
Kernel? yeah there are huge number of kernels here but if you notice that most of em have same features See other phones like nexus 4. They have whats called "real" kernel development.
Pico which is 1k more expensive is 100 times better than this phone and you also know it. Why not buy that? I sold my Y for 3.5k and another 3k can buy you a arm7 phone. Which wont get outdated for another year atleast..