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[Q] Desire Z Bootloader Questions

Hi, I'd like to ask two questions about our Desire Zs.
Firstly, I'd like to know if its possible to boot any kind of Linux from our Desire Zs. From what I know, our bootloader is designed to booting any kind of Linux right?
Secondly, I would also like to know if its possible to compile a pure AOSP build, and run it on our DZ. Again, from what I know, the DZ can run Android, through startup scripts, so it should be able to run a pure AOSP build right?
Anybody able to correct my poor understanding of the DZ, and Android?
Thank You!

Grab one of the aosp roms and find out. Android is the only operating system that comes on dz/g2 so I'm not sure what you mean
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There should be guides if you search for running debian on the g2/dz. And yes you can run AOSP, so long as it's built for the dz/g2. Cyanogenmod is AOSP based, so is the stock g2 rom I think.
-Nipqer
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Spastic909 said:
Grab one of the aosp roms and find out. Android is the only operating system that comes on dz/g2 so I'm not sure what you mean
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Actually what I meant, was whether I could load in any generic android source through CWM, and have it working. But thanks though for your answer.
Nipqer said:
There should be guides if you search for running debian on the g2/dz. And yes you can run AOSP, so long as it's built for the dz/g2. Cyanogenmod is AOSP based, so is the stock g2 rom I think.
-Nipqer
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I see. Thanks for your answer. Though I had the impression that AOSP was a generic android source, suitable for any phone just by downloading a copy, and loading it in through CWM.

xudsa II USERT said:
I see. Thanks for your answer. Though I had the impression that AOSP was a generic android source, suitable for any phone just by downloading a copy, and loading it in through CWM.
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Not really suitable for any phone. If that was the case, we would have 100% working ICS roms by now, or even in the week of release.
From the little i understand, Android needs drivers for each component just like windows does, and those drivers are not in the AOSP

AOSP typically only contains drivers for the Nexus dev phone for each particular release, I think. Though ICS is an exception because soon after initial release they put in drivers for the Nexus S as well as Galaxy Nexus, and the Motorola Xoom tablet too.
As has been said, you need to take AOSP then add hardware-specific drivers.
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fredfb said:
Not really suitable for any phone. If that was the case, we would have 100% working ICS roms by now, or even in the week of release.
From the little i understand, Android needs drivers for each component just like windows does, and those drivers are not in the AOSP
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steviewevie said:
AOSP typically only contains drivers for the Nexus dev phone for each particular release, I think. Though ICS is an exception because soon after initial release they put in drivers for the Nexus S as well as Galaxy Nexus, and the Motorola Xoom tablet too.
As has been said, you need to take AOSP then add hardware-specific drivers.
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I see.. I always had the impression that the drivers were in the Kernel, so, the phone has to interface through drivers in the /system then through the kernel?
So, if this applies to other distros, say Angstrom Linux, i need to port each driver, then it should work when i install it with CWM right? Correct me if i'm wrong, but our bootloaders are designed to boot any linux right?

if you want to install linux on your phone have a look at this app:
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nYWxvdWxhLkxpbnV4SW5zdGFsbCJd
it´s not native, so you do not have to mess up your android system

hoffmas said:
if you want to install linux on your phone have a look at this app:
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nYWxvdWxhLkxpbnV4SW5zdGFsbCJd
it´s not native, so you do not have to mess up your android system
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Interesting concept, i'll give it a go when i'm free. Thanks for recommending!

[For Devs] android 4.1 jellybean

NOTE: DO NOT FLASH THIS TO YOUR PHONE> IT WILL HARD BRICK!
this is for any dev that wants to try and port android jellybean to the s3 Tmobile version. they already ported it to the internationl version so i think that might make it a little easier. here is the OP in the international section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737449

fcortes626 said:
NOTE: DO NOT FLASH THIS TO YOUR PHONE> IT WILL HARD BRICK!
this is for any dev that wants to try and port android jellybean to the s3 Tmobile version. they already ported it to the internationl version so i think that might make it a little easier. here is the OP in the international section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737449
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Hmmm...
Wonder if we could take that ROM, change the updater-script to match our mounting points....then we just need a kernel....

Which we have one kernel already made. Not sure if it would work though.
If anyone would help set up a build environment that would work for our kernels and roms then I will gladly help and start learning.
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brfield said:
Which we have one kernel already made. Not sure if it would work though.
If anyone would help set up a build environment that would work for our kernels and roms then I will gladly help and start learning.
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I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.

uoY_redruM said:
I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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Well, it shouldn't take too long. It may be possible to build a CM9 Kernel for our phones using parts of the stock kernel that we have access to.

Once the JB source is released, an S3 port might actually be viable. Otherwise it's essentially just flashing a gnex image and praying something/anything works.

uoY_redruM said:
I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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a CM9 kernel shouldn't be needed, just a modded kernel for our specific phone from what i believe.

We know this, but it's more of an experiment. Also, it helps work out anything we may need to do early on with the modules and drivers
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Why not take this ROM, change the updater-script for our mount points, remove the flashing of the boot.img, flash ROM then flash the kernel Roman release?
Think that would work?

uoY_redruM said:
Why not take this ROM, change the updater-script for our mount points, remove the flashing of the boot.img, flash ROM then flash the kernel Roman release?
Think that would work?
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It could, in theory. But we would need to work on the modules for anything to work. Could you post our mount points?

why does it have to be a cm9 kernel?

to be completely honest, as soon as we get a cm9 alpha, we will see some worth while stuff! but until then. TouchWiz it iz. We will have team kang's AOKP in no time im sure. i cant wait to see wuts to come. especially since this phone is at all the major carriers and they are all basically exactly the same! should be epic.

Radsolutionz said:
to be completely honest, as soon as we get a cm9 alpha, we will see some worth while stuff! but until then. TouchWiz it iz. We will have team kang's AOKP in no time im sure. i cant wait to see wuts to come. especially since this phone is at all the major carriers and they are all basically exactly the same! should be epic.
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yea i think once one of the other major carriers (or ares) get cm9 then we will see some awesome stuff for everyones phone!
I think that the only thing that makes them different is the radios in the phone

uoY_redruM said:
Hmmm...
Wonder if we could take that ROM, change the updater-script to match our mounting points....then we just need a kernel....
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uoY_redruM said:
I think we'd need a stock CM9 based kernel though. If I understand correctly.
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uoY_redruM said:
Why not take this ROM, change the updater-script for our mount points, remove the flashing of the boot.img, flash ROM then flash the kernel Roman release?
Think that would work?
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If aosp was that easy we would all be doing it but no... way more complex than that....
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.

howtomen said:
If aosp was that easy we would all be doing it but no... way more complex than that....
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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Wishful thinking I suppose

in another note i found a mini tutorial on how to port it to other devices if anyone wants to try it here is the guide. it is an SDK port. note: i did not write this guide i am just posting a link to the authors op. you can thank him and/or donate to him. here isorum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36 the link:

fcortes626 said:
in another note i found a mini tutorial on how to port it to other devices if anyone wants to try it here is the guide. it is an SDK port. note: i did not write this guide i am just posting a link to the authors op. you can thank him and/or donate to him. here isorum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36 the link:
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Link is broken, im not meaning to be a lazy pest.

sswb27 said:
Link is broken, im not meaning to be a lazy pest.
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sorry about that :silly:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36

fcortes626 said:
sorry about that :silly:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
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i also have a deodexed system dump of jb if you want it let me know.

Source is out
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New Jelly Bean Binaries

Hello all.
I saw that the binaries have been updated for the Galaxy Nexus on this page:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers
Does anyone know how to actually pull and install the binaries? I tried running the script but I get an error saying that it couldn't display the license.
Thanks.
EDIT: I thought it was as simple as extracting and replacing an object file. According to this, it looks like you need to source to extract and then build.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/android-building/2fXGtHA98CI/wxGnntR7Za8J

I use those binaries just fine with the script.
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Are you extracting within the source tree?

Noob question... will these binaries improve the existing roms that are around? I was looking to flash a new rom on my vzw nexus, but is it worth waiting for developers to integrate these binaries?
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andytseng said:
Noob question... will these binaries improve the existing roms that are around? I was looking to flash a new rom on my vzw nexus, but is it worth waiting for developers to integrate these binaries?
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In theory, they should.

The JRO03C aosp binaries for maguro and toro have been released for a few days now, and those scripts are to be run in a linux terminal. They work fine. They are also needed to build a rom for those devices from (aosp) source code (we dont have the source for those components, thats why we use the binaries provided by Google).
skinien said:
Are you extracting within the source tree?
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This as well, thanks.
Sent from my i9250

bk201doesntexist said:
The JRO03C aosp binaries for maguro and toro have been released for a few days now, and those scripts are to be run in a linux terminal. They work fine. They are also needed to build a rom for those devices from (aosp) source code.
This as well, thanks.
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These are JRO03H and were released yesterday.

skinien said:
These are JRO03H and were released yesterday.
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I've been busy as hell at work. Thanks for the heads up. make clobber. no hard feelings huh mate?
Edit: perhaps you could place JRO03H in the thread title.
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Can you install them to any 0H rom? If so, how?

Deving on a Mac

Hey guys I have been getting into a lot of modding and such I was wondering what programs you guys recommend using to develop apps, roms, mods and stuff like that on a mac. I just have one request; please don't tell me to get a windows computer. I can't afford it or I would.
Thanks for any help

For apps, you can easily install Eclipse and download all of the Android SDK bits.
You can also partition your hard drive and run Linux .

It's actually better to use a Mac than a PC. You don't really need any special apps or tools besides what comes in the SDK. And on a Mac, you can build android from source. You can't on a PC.
I have a Mac and I've used it for developing

Thanks for the quick replies. Can the SDK tools be used to tweak apks?

AshtonTS said:
It's actually better to use Mac OSX than Windows. You don't really need any special apps or tools besides what comes in the SDK. And on a Mac OSX, you can build android from source. You can't on a Windows.
I have a Mac and I've used it for developing
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Fixed that for you.
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ÜBER™ said:
Fixed that for you.
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You know what I meant

not to start a war... but linux is way better supported.
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bk201doesntexist said:
not to start a war... but linux is way better supported.
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You're right. For deving it goes Linux>OS X>>>>>Windows

[REQUEST] Sailfish OS

Maybe we'll try to port Sailfish OS to our device?..

I would prefer first build cm 10.1 and so on and then we could talk about ubuntu Sailfish and so on

do you build success ubuntu? I remember as you build it

cocon1609 said:
do you build success ubuntu? I remember as you build it
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not yet...very little time...

what about AOSP 4.3?
Shadowcareful said:
I would prefer first build cm 10.1
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need a source of S3 Mini but they are closed

good luck!

they seem nearly the same, gestures.. this looks better than ubuntu touch

DEMONVoz said:
what about AOSP 4.3?
need a source of S3 Mini but they are closed
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we dont need sources from s3 mini to build 10.1 -.-'

DEMONVoz said:
what about AOSP 4.3?
need a source of S3 Mini but they are closed
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well, we have too many ideas and little realisation!)) We may start from one, then move to another and so on...

little realisation ? do you see how many roms we have???

...and this thread belong to dev section?

doesn't -.-
dont know why to create any thread, we have dev thread on general section for discussions

Rox said:
little realisation ? do you see how many roms we have???
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I mean we (I) suggest many but do very little, that's the problem...

Before porting Sailfish, better idea to devs is start compiling 4.3. Or wait for KitKat.
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