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[Q] Questions about HTCDev. can I root or flash ROM?

I have been seeing posts saying that it is still S-ON after unlocked with HTCDev, is that true? And does the version of HBoot maters?
If it is still S-ON, may I ask, can I
Root the device
Flash recovery
Flash kernel
overclock
and Flash ROM
with S-ON?
I really want to help with my friend's Buzz.

#1 yes it does leave S-on but you are allowed to root your phone and from there you can install clockwork rom managar and flash clockwork recover and then you can install roms etc.
#2 Yes you will need to change the hboot, but they will prvide it in the instructions as the wildfire has an asterik for hboot upgrade via ruu.
Acording to heaps of people are using HTC Supertools to get root. Although i have a Desire HD, when i have used this i have not got root, but thats just seems to be me
It should work fine if done correctly.
Hope this helps.

hey, i have just rooted my HTC Wildfire after unlocking the bootloader,but i am having problem in rebooting into recovery ,it restarts and gets stuck ,where it shows white screen with HTC logo .Please help me . I have rooted the phone with unlock root software.

barrielui said:
I have been seeing posts saying that it is still S-ON after unlocked with HTCDev, is that true? And does the version of HBoot maters?
If it is still S-ON, may I ask, can I
Root the device
Flash recovery
Flash kernel
overclock
and Flash ROM
with S-ON?
I really want to help with my friend's Buzz.
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As far as i know, the only thing you can't flash is the radio. I am not sure about kernel though.
dkaushik95 said:
hey, i have just rooted my HTC Wildfire after unlocking the bootloader,but i am having problem in rebooting into recovery ,it restarts and gets stuck ,where it shows white screen with HTC logo .Please help me . I have rooted the phone with unlock root software.
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Have you tried to get into recovery through the bootloader? (Press volume down + power).
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LucidSomnia said:
As far as i know, the only thing you can't flash is the radio. I am not sure about kernel though.
Have you tried to get into recovery through the bootloader? (Press volume down + power).
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yes i have , after i rooted my phone (from unLock Root), i realized that my bootloader was showing locked .So i unlocked it again and installed clockwork mod recovery through fastboot on my PC ,it installed , but again if i go to recovery from bootloader ,it shows the same error

Will flashing the kernal to stock HTC kernal help ?
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dkaushik95 said:
Will flashing the kernal to stock HTC kernal help ?
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i wouldnt mess with the kernal if you dont know what u are doing.
have you flashed a custom ROM or Recovery?

See ,I tried flashing clockwork mod recovery from Rom manager and rebooted into bootloader to go to recovery ,but I get the error ,and according to my friend ,you cannot flash Rom without any recovery.
The problem with my phone is I cannot boot into recovery
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dkaushik95 said:
See ,I tried flashing clockwork mod recovery from Rom manager and rebooted into bootloader to go to recovery ,but I get the error ,and according to my friend ,you cannot flash Rom without any recovery.
The problem with my phone is I cannot boot into recovery
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You can't get into recovery when flashed it from rom manager by the bootloader option. You have to reboot into recovery from rom manager after flashing it from there cause it's not permanent.

I tried doing that too ,but it has the same result.
is there any way I can put cm7 without flashing into recovery ?
Or can I delete the recovery and put it again ?
My friend told me that if you have the image file of the Rom (which can be backed up from another wildfire having cm7), you can boot into that image and install cm7 .
can this happen ?
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You need to install cwm first, Rom manager just gives you a temporary downgrade to flash some older zips which use a different script to newer ones.
I believe you can use fastboot to install it, guide here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
If you follow this guide that will get you cwm 4.x.x and allow you to flash cm7 from recovery, the latest version of cwm is 5.0.2.0 however and the img is knocking about in various places on this forum.
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okay ,now this i my bad .
I tried rooting through a site which was meant for the wildfire s .
so i erased the recovery and put clockworkmod recovery .
After 5 tries , i finally got into the recovery and installed CM7 in minutes
Thanks to all of you for help

Heh nice to hear you made it
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[Q] My Desire HD refues to boot with custom ROM

So, hi there.
I have a very strange issue with my DHD.
Let me start saying that I've read and tried all these guides:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_HD:_Firmware_Downgrade_(Gingerbread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424023
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
But... they don't work.
I bought my DHD with Froyo and updated the stock rom everytime, last time with the new Sense 3 stock.
I unlocked the bootloader with the RUU from htcdev.
Fre3vo doesn't work, tacoroot doesn't work, the ace kit (and the lovely effen manual) doesn't work.
I have succesfully flashed clockwork img to recovery (fastboot flash recovery clockwork.img is OK).
I had made a backup of the stock rom with clockwork, and that backup rom is the only one which starts succesfully.
Every other rom i tried (cyanogen, miui, virtuous ics) is succesfully flashed but at the boot it seems freezed at the HTC logo (yes, I waited for about 30 minutes).
The weird thing, is what I did for having miui running on my DHD.
I downloaded the miui rom ZIP,
I copied the zip to the SD,
I copied the boot.img from the zip to my desktop,
flashed the zip with clockwork (after i wiped all the data),
reboot the DHD into fastboot
fastboot the boot.img I've extracted to the phone (c:\> fastboot boot boot.img)
then the phone boots to the boot image I've sideloaded via USB.
And this is working really fine without any problems...
Unless I had to reboot the phone on the road or the battery dies...
Isn't that a bit weird? What shall I do now?

I'm assuming you did re-lock the bootloader before trying acehack kit?
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ghostofcain said:
I'm assuming you did re-lock the bootloader before trying acehack kit?
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No, not really.
The bootloader is still unlocked at this moment.
Should I relock it? (why?)

You need to flash the boot.img for every rom, since you used the HTC dev method. Like above stated relock your boot loader and try the kit. As to why relock it, because the kit tells you too
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marsdta said:
You need to flash the boot.img for every rom, since you used the HTC dev method. Like above stated relock your boot loader and try the kit. As to why relock it, because the kit tells you too
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Hey! That worked! Thank you so much!
I thought it was Clockwork's job to flash the boot (which is inside the zip), but after I installed the zip from Clockwork's recovery boot, I also flashed the boot.img with fastboot and now it works!
Thank you again!

If your soff then yes cwr will flash the boot. But because your son cwr currently can't. 4ext recovery does have a new option that will flash it for you, not sure how it works but you might want totake a look into it, as to avoid needing a computer to flash roms .
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ARHD 3.0xxx Why flash boot.img and why?

Hi.. Big noob here. But after having flashed the latest ARHD, i can see that they recommend to flash boot.img.. Is this the stock bootloader? and why is it a good idea to flash it when my phone seems to work fine?
i've rooted my phone the "fastboot way" from OSX, so what would i write i the terminal to flash this boot.img?
still not able to post in the dev forum, so hope im not way of, posting it here
thanks!

it contain tweaks

The boot.IMG has nothing to do with the bootloader ,it is the kernel and the ramdidsk which developers change to add tweaks and features. This boot image would normally be flashed automatically as you install the rom in recovery but for now the recovery is incapable of flashing this image so we should do it manually
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bagofcrap24 said:
The boot.IMG has nothing to do with the bootloader ,it is the kernel and the ramdidsk which developers change to add tweaks and features. This boot image would normally be flashed automatically as you install the rom in recovery but for now the recovery is incapable of flashing this image so we should do it manually
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How do u flash stock boot.img when returning the handset back to.full stock ROM? Would a cwm restore fix it or would the same problem occur? If so where could the stock boot.img be found to keep as a backup for if fully stock ROM is wanted again?
Sorry for all the questions.
I'm new to the HTC way, had Samsung before and I knew what I was doing lol.
Drew071
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drew071 said:
How do u flash stock boot.img when returning the handset back to.full stock ROM? Would a cwm restore fix it or would the same problem occur? If so where could the stock boot.img be found to keep as a backup for if fully stock ROM is wanted again?
Sorry for all the questions.
I'm new to the HTC way, had Samsung before and I knew what I was doing lol.
Drew071
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flashing the RUU will replace the boot.img
also your backup you made in clockworkmod will have the boot.img in there. it just wont be able to flash it when restoring. so just pull the boot.img from your /sdcard/cwm to your pc then you will have the stock boot.img which if you do restore can be flashed through fastboot
so your 2x options are
1. download the full RUU file for factory reset
2. copy your CWM backup to PC.
do a restore from CWM then goto fastboot and flash the backed up boot.img

bagofcrap24 said:
flashing the RUU will replace the boot.img
also your backup you made in clockworkmod will have the boot.img in there. it just wont be able to flash it when restoring. so just pull the boot.img from your /sdcard/cwm to your pc then you will have the stock boot.img which if you do restore can be flashed through fastboot
so your 2x options are
1. download the full RUU file for factory reset
2. copy your CWM backup to PC.
do a restore from CWM then goto fastboot and flash the backed up boot.img
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Makes perfect sense. One other quick question. Like with Samsung handsets Odin can be used to flash stock Roms, is there any such software than can do the same for htc devices?
Thanks again
Drew071
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drew071 said:
Makes perfect sense. One other quick question. Like with Samsung handsets Odin can be used to flash stock Roms, is there any such software than can do the same for htc devices?
Thanks again
Drew071
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The RUU is what HTC uses instead of Odin.

joshnichols189 said:
The RUU is what HTC uses instead of Odin.
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Thanks. I know it noobish but it seems like a new world compared to flashing Samsung. Even rooting was harder lol. I'll get there soon enough. Just got to learn. Thanks for ya help
Drew071
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drew071 said:
Thanks. I know it noobish but it seems like a new world compared to flashing Samsung. Even rooting was harder lol. I'll get there soon enough. Just got to learn. Thanks for ya help
Drew071
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No worries

ok, so as far as i can tell i should boot to fastboot, and in terminal " ./fastboot flash boot boot.img" or something like this? im a bit confused about the guide in the ARHD thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25100933&postcount=3741

HTC Desire HD boot.img

Hi,
I have a HTC Desire HD that i have inherited from a guy at work ...and i need a little help ...after speaking to him he was trying install CM on this and tried to do it without rooting it first !
Basically he flashed the boot.img using fastboot and now it doesn't boot up at all ...surprisingly.
I wondered if anyone can help me with this it boots to recovery but doesn't have root access so i can't install another ROM ...what i figure i need is the stock boot.img so i can reflash this using fastboot to the device then i should at least be able to boot this up. But i can't seem to find this.
Can anyone help..?
Thanks
Rick

Jigjags said:
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire HD that i have inherited from a guy at work ...and i need a little help ...after speaking to him he was trying install CM on this and tried to do it without rooting it first !
Basically he flashed the boot.img using fastboot and now it doesn't boot up at all ...surprisingly.
I wondered if anyone can help me with this it boots to recovery but doesn't have root access so i can't install another ROM ...what i figure i need is the stock boot.img so i can reflash this using fastboot to the device then i should at least be able to boot this up. But i can't seem to find this.
Can anyone help..?
Thanks
Rick
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This shoud belong in the general section, but...
Just plug your phone into your computer and run a coresponding RUU from windows.
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Or copy ruu to sd and go to hboot menu, (power on & vol-)
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Jigjags said:
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire HD that i have inherited from a guy at work ...and i need a little help ...after speaking to him he was trying install CM on this and tried to do it without rooting it first !
Basically he flashed the boot.img using fastboot and now it doesn't boot up at all ...surprisingly.
I wondered if anyone can help me with this it boots to recovery but doesn't have root access so i can't install another ROM ...what i figure i need is the stock boot.img so i can reflash this using fastboot to the device then i should at least be able to boot this up. But i can't seem to find this.
Can anyone help..?
Thanks
Rick
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Is the bootloader unlocked? if not is impossible even to try to flash a custom rom. Get a RUU for your phone and revert to a working phone. Then if you want just root it and then flash any rom you want. Follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30020025&postcount=7
If you need further help, just let me know. :good:

[Q] Flashed a new rom with out root..!! Made a blunder mistake.. Is there a Way??

hello guys, I have a serious problem with my device and need your help to sort out the issue.
I have some previous experience in rooting, changing various ROM's in Motorola devices but i am a noob in HTC devices.
I unlocked my boot loader from HTC Dev.
Installed CMW recovery,
took a back up,
and flashed a new ROM.
After flashing my device, it is struck at the boot screen.
I tried to flash another ROM and the same thing repeats,
after that i tried to trouble shoot and then discovered that i did not root the device before flashing and just followed the steps to flash the ROM.
I want to know ,
1. Did i hard brick my device? the Phone boots up, i am able to enter in to recovery mode, flash a new ROM etc.. But that also stops at the boot screen.
2. I tried to recover from the CMW backup, but it shows some error message and unable to recover. i tried all the ways by clearing cache, dalvik memory and every thing, but could not recover.
This is my problem guys,
I know that i made a big mistake, but still i want to know whether there is a way for me to get my device back..:victory:
Please help me regarding this.:good:
I have found many threads that decribe the process for a rooted mobile. But could not find any problem similar to me. Please excuse me if i posted a repeated question.
Please find me a way out..!!!!
Thanks in advance for your valuable suggestions and your valuable time that you have spent on me. :good::victory::victory::highfive::highfive:

Hi
I think there is a way to install a rom with without root. Thats the one u are doing.
It does involves unlocking bootloader,getting cwm recovery, flashing new rom but it seems u have made a mistake somewhere.
Heavy_Metal_man is expert in these situations. Hope he might help you.
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running a ruu might take you out of this situation. As said above heavy_metal_man is the one you can count on.

Actually the thing you did wrong is that you didn't flash boot.img after flashing the ROM. That's a vital step if tyou have unlocked through HTCdev. Nothing related to root. Even if you flash an unrooted ROM, you can always go back to recovery and flash another one. You've just forgotten to flash boot.img. You need to do the same thing if you restore a backup also.
Follow my guide for the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31211732
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sashank said:
Actually the thing you did wrong is that you didn't flash boot.img after flashing the ROM. That's a vital step if tyou have unlocked through HTCdev. Nothing related to root. Even if you flash an unrooted ROM, you can always go back to recovery and flash another one. You've just forgotten to flash boot.img. You need to do the same thing if you restore a backup also.
Follow my guide for the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31211732
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Exactly right this phone since it had already gained s-off for most of its users before htcdev was even out we never saw a recovery with htcdum-lock or smartflash like more modern phones got. all you have got to do is flash the boot.img from whatever rom or back up your using via fastboot and your off
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7

By this way, is it possible to overclock ?
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Make a flashable zip containing su binary and superuser.apk and flash it. Then flash it and then flash the rom.

gobz said:
Make a flashable zip containing su binary and superuser.apk and flash it. Then flash it and then flash the rom.
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If you do that then first the Superuser.apk and su binary will be flashed to /system, then when you flash the ROM, /system is wiped and the ROM is flashed. So that doesn't achieve anything. To root an unrooted ROM, you have to first flash the ROM and then the Superuser zip.
In any case, the OP's problem has nothing to do with root access.
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Odp: [Q] Flashed a new rom with out root..!! Made a blunder mistake.. Is there a Way
flash ruu, you will get stock, then root ur phone and flash other phones.
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Just to clear something up here, once you have s-off or htcdev unlocked bootloaders you do of need root to flash roms. You only need a working recovery. The roms you flash may have root. But it is not a requirement these days for rom flashing. A root exploit is usually needed to flash a recovery on an otherwise locked device, but not for us
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