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[Q] Questions about HTCDev. can I root or flash ROM?

I have been seeing posts saying that it is still S-ON after unlocked with HTCDev, is that true? And does the version of HBoot maters?
If it is still S-ON, may I ask, can I
Root the device
Flash recovery
Flash kernel
overclock
and Flash ROM
with S-ON?
I really want to help with my friend's Buzz.

#1 yes it does leave S-on but you are allowed to root your phone and from there you can install clockwork rom managar and flash clockwork recover and then you can install roms etc.
#2 Yes you will need to change the hboot, but they will prvide it in the instructions as the wildfire has an asterik for hboot upgrade via ruu.
Acording to heaps of people are using HTC Supertools to get root. Although i have a Desire HD, when i have used this i have not got root, but thats just seems to be me
It should work fine if done correctly.
Hope this helps.

hey, i have just rooted my HTC Wildfire after unlocking the bootloader,but i am having problem in rebooting into recovery ,it restarts and gets stuck ,where it shows white screen with HTC logo .Please help me . I have rooted the phone with unlock root software.

barrielui said:
I have been seeing posts saying that it is still S-ON after unlocked with HTCDev, is that true? And does the version of HBoot maters?
If it is still S-ON, may I ask, can I
Root the device
Flash recovery
Flash kernel
overclock
and Flash ROM
with S-ON?
I really want to help with my friend's Buzz.
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As far as i know, the only thing you can't flash is the radio. I am not sure about kernel though.
dkaushik95 said:
hey, i have just rooted my HTC Wildfire after unlocking the bootloader,but i am having problem in rebooting into recovery ,it restarts and gets stuck ,where it shows white screen with HTC logo .Please help me . I have rooted the phone with unlock root software.
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Have you tried to get into recovery through the bootloader? (Press volume down + power).
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LucidSomnia said:
As far as i know, the only thing you can't flash is the radio. I am not sure about kernel though.
Have you tried to get into recovery through the bootloader? (Press volume down + power).
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yes i have , after i rooted my phone (from unLock Root), i realized that my bootloader was showing locked .So i unlocked it again and installed clockwork mod recovery through fastboot on my PC ,it installed , but again if i go to recovery from bootloader ,it shows the same error

Will flashing the kernal to stock HTC kernal help ?
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dkaushik95 said:
Will flashing the kernal to stock HTC kernal help ?
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i wouldnt mess with the kernal if you dont know what u are doing.
have you flashed a custom ROM or Recovery?

See ,I tried flashing clockwork mod recovery from Rom manager and rebooted into bootloader to go to recovery ,but I get the error ,and according to my friend ,you cannot flash Rom without any recovery.
The problem with my phone is I cannot boot into recovery
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dkaushik95 said:
See ,I tried flashing clockwork mod recovery from Rom manager and rebooted into bootloader to go to recovery ,but I get the error ,and according to my friend ,you cannot flash Rom without any recovery.
The problem with my phone is I cannot boot into recovery
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You can't get into recovery when flashed it from rom manager by the bootloader option. You have to reboot into recovery from rom manager after flashing it from there cause it's not permanent.

I tried doing that too ,but it has the same result.
is there any way I can put cm7 without flashing into recovery ?
Or can I delete the recovery and put it again ?
My friend told me that if you have the image file of the Rom (which can be backed up from another wildfire having cm7), you can boot into that image and install cm7 .
can this happen ?
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You need to install cwm first, Rom manager just gives you a temporary downgrade to flash some older zips which use a different script to newer ones.
I believe you can use fastboot to install it, guide here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
If you follow this guide that will get you cwm 4.x.x and allow you to flash cm7 from recovery, the latest version of cwm is 5.0.2.0 however and the img is knocking about in various places on this forum.
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okay ,now this i my bad .
I tried rooting through a site which was meant for the wildfire s .
so i erased the recovery and put clockworkmod recovery .
After 5 tries , i finally got into the recovery and installed CM7 in minutes
Thanks to all of you for help

Heh nice to hear you made it
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[Q] No ROM,S-ON and just working bootloader

Hi there!
I know there are a lots of questions like this but I'm just so stupid. I tryed to flash with Custom ROM with Clockwork recovery while I have S-ON. (My bootloader is "RELOCKED" if that plays some role).Now I'm stuck on the HTC logo. Can you please help me I'm so despered. Thank you.

Best advice runn the RUU to go back to stock, then use the AAHK TO ROOT your phone then you can flash a custom Rom.
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Thank you for the answer. Yes,but the RUU uses the adb so it doesn't work when there is no OS. I tryed to mount system,cache and data through the clockwork recovery but the error this time is that the RUU can't get information for the battery and the "Charge Only" mode. So that's not the way.

Did you relock the bootloader manually? How did you unlock it, using AAHK or via www.htcdev.com?
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Yes it was relocked using htcdev.com but that was not so important. The bootloader just need to be locked no matter Locked or Relocked. The problem was that I had CWM Recovery installed and when the Bootloader checked every zip (PD98IMG) it was just going back to the menu with no errors. So I flashed an oryginal "Android system recovery (3e)" and the installation began also with no errors.

Ok, so find the right PD98IMG for your device and flash it from bootloader. Doesn't need recovery. You should be able to find links pretty easily in Google. Which country are you from and which carrier?
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Thank you. I already did it , but my point was that you can't install PD98IMG without the original recovery.

stupidguydhd said:
Thank you. I already did it , but my point was that you can't install PD98IMG without the original recovery.
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That is wrong. You don´t need recovery to install RUU's. Those are flashed in hboot. If the file isn't working then or the RUU you are using is not the correct for u or the file is not renamed ok. But again RUU's don´t need recovery at all.

Help stuck on bootloop!!

Man, Ive really screwed up now... I didn't back up the stock ROM, tried to root her phone using the HTC Sync method described here.
I successfully unlocked the bootloader and rooted, but still have S-ON. I have HBOOT ver 0.98, by the way.
Then after installing a Cyanogenmod 7.2 ROM through ClockworkMod Recovery (no errors there), the phone freezes on boot at the white screen with green HTC letters.
I tried flashing another ROM (several actually), but they all do the same thing. Freeze on the white boot screen, doesn't matter how long I wait.
So in an effort to get it back to stock, I tried flashing a stock RUU through the bootloader, and I get an error "Main version is older!". Checked my version through "fastboot getvar all" and the main version on phone is 6.01.605.05, so apparently I can't flash anything less than that. The latest version RUU that I've been able to find for download is 5.10.605.9.
Im fairly new to this, but I don't think I can use ADB commands without booting into the OS, is that right?
So in short:
-unable to boot to OS
-can't find a custom ROM that will boot
-can't use ADB commands to downgrade HBOOT or get S-OFF (or can I somehow?)
-can't flash an RUU because my phones version registering higher than anything I can find on the net
So does anyone have any ideas?

Calm down, did you flash the boot.img through fast boot?
To me it looks like you didn't, flash your rom open the rom on computer take out the boot.img and but phone in fast boot then enter the following command
Fastboot boot boot.img
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Yes, I tried but it keeps failing. Do you know if my phone has to be unlocked before I flash the boot.img? Also, I am still s-on and don't know how to get s-off from a 6.01.605.05. I am stuck in bootloop and can't get into recovery only hboot/fastboot. Will the Roms you mentioned work with s-on? Should I try flashing the boot.img, system.img, and recovery.img from one of those roms?
GoonAssJuan said:
Calm down, did you flash the boot.img through fast boot?
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mrkmzo said:
Yes, I tried but it keeps failing. Do you know if my phone has to be unlocked before I flash the boot.img? Also, I am still s-on and don't know how to get s-off from a 6.01.605.05. I am stuck in bootloop and can't get into recovery only hboot/fastboot. Will the Roms you mentioned work with s-on? Should I try flashing the boot.img, system.img, and recovery.img from one of those roms?
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Any rom will work as long as you flash the boot.img from that specific rom
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Had the same problem
I had the same problem and flashing the boot.img does work. Make sure your fastboot and boot.img are in the same folder and and you hold shift and open command prompt from there. Also make sure your drivers are working properly. After you flash your boot image to you phone the clear all data/cache/davsik and then instal cyanogenmod!

HTC desire HD bootloop

I was helping out a friend to flash a custom rom , to update his device to a newer version , as a former LG optimus 3d owner i figured nothing can be more problematic , so we went on to unlock the device with easyunlocker tool , then flashed the latest twrp recovery from fastboot. We first tried Legacycarbon , it was stuck in a bootloop with htc logo without the quietly brilliant bit. Then we tried pac-man 4.2.2 bootloop again , lastly we tried cyanogenmod 10.1 again bootloop... First i thought maybe it's the recovery , i flashed the latest clockwork non-touch and flashed all these roms , still bootloop... My friend accidentally wiped the backup we made of the stock rom. Now the device is soft bricked. I've heard people talk about 4ext recovery , so i thought maybe i should give it a try but as it turns out , the only way to install it is with the play store app. As the device is soft bricked i need a fastboot image.
So my question is , what could be the problem ?
If you think the the problem is with the recovery can you export your recovery partition so i can use it through fastboot?
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You can flash the. .img file from fastboot, but recovery is not the problem. Try wiping all partitions (/data /cache and /system), and flashing a rom
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totalnoob34 said:
You can flash the. .img file from fastboot, but recovery is not the problem. Try wiping all partitions (/data /cache and /system), and flashing a rom
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Yeah , i left that out. As a nexus owner i have a habit of wiping my system , data , cache and dalvik-cache partitions. I've managed to get a recovery backup from another friend who owns the same device , and flashed it to the phone , now it's working.
Although i'm very curious as to why it gets stuck in a bootloop...
I think it may be because of the partition size difference , then the ROMs that i downloaded didn't contain partition images , still it was through teamviewer , i couldn't really extract his partition table to take a look at it , i'll do that when i get my hands on the device.

Hi! It seems to be the same problem I met since friday. My HTC DESIRE HD doesn't want to start, it goes on a bootloop at the logo cyanogenmod.. I had the CM 10.1, so I have now tested to make a new installation by replacing it with a newer version of CM 10.1 but it's always the same problem.. bootloop again and again.
Moreover I have flashed the boot.img which was in the folder off CM 10.1 but no result.. I've tried to do it with MIUANDROID rom and it seems to be the same bootlooping again..
Please can someone help me?
Thanks

sosointello said:
Hi! It seems to be the same problem I met since friday. My HTC DESIRE HD doesn't want to start, it goes on a bootloop at the logo cyanogenmod.. I had the CM 10.1, so I have now tested to make a new installation by replacing it with a newer version of CM 10.1 but it's always the same problem.. bootloop again and again.
Moreover I have flashed the boot.img which was in the folder off CM 10.1 but no result.. I've tried to do it with MIUANDROID rom and it seems to be the same bootlooping again..
Please can someone help me?
Thanks
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Try flashing a RUU. If that is not working and you are still on a bootloop then it might be a motherboard issue.

glevitan said:
Try flashing a RUU. If that is not working and you are still on a bootloop then it might be a motherboard issue.
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be careful as re installing RUU might not let you re rooting it ...

zinedzine said:
be careful as re installing RUU might not let you re rooting it ...
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How come?
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zinedzine said:
be careful as re installing RUU might not let you re rooting it ...
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He should be able to unlock with HTCDev and root, or use the AAHK2 to s-off and root. I'm not sure if OP had already unlocked the bootloader, but there's a chance that the ruu won't update it (newer/same version as included in the ruu) meaning he'd keep his BL unlock
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from what i've read here on the forum, and if my understanding is correct, ruu are like "original" roms. files that we don't flash from recovry.
it's a différent method and in the end we obtain a stock phone with an "untouched" os like an original one.
if it is the case then you should install a ruu with android 2.3.5 on it, as if you update up to a ruu with android 2.3.7, again from what i've read, it won't be possible to root back the phone then.
i might be wrong but just thought i'll point it out to you so you can research on that.
it's possible that by now there is a way, but i havn't read or heard about it.

Justice™ said:
He should be able to unlock with HTCDev and root, or use the AAHK2 to s-off and root. I'm not sure if OP had already unlocked the bootloader, but there's a chance that the ruu won't update it (newer/same version as included in the ruu) meaning he'd keep his BL unlock
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Well you are definitely wrong. All versions are rootable. Ruu stands for remote update utility and it is the stock firmware of the device.
You cannot flash a ruu in recovery but have to do it in fastboot. From there you can unlock the bootloader and root.
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glevitan said:
Well you are definitely wrong. All versions are rootable. Ruu stands for remote update utility and it is the stock firmware of the device.
You cannot flash a ruu in recovery but have to do it in fastboot. From there you can unlock the bootloader and root.
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I think I might've completely screwed up what I was trying to say or you may have misunderstood what I was saying. So I'm just going to refer back to what I was trying to explain in context of an older HTC device (Wildfire, in this case).
In some scenarios with the Wildfire, we were able to run an RUU and successfully roll back to a stock rom whilst retaining a S-OFF bootloader (Meaning the ability to use fastboot to flash a recovery and root using a su zip was possible). I think I was trying to say this may be possible/may occur with the DHD. Meaning that OP would just have to use fastboot to flash a recovery and an appropriate superuser zip to get root, and therefore any version would be rootable (even if he rolled back). However at this point I'm not sure if the DHD RUU's overwrite the hboot/bootloader. (I've never really felt like flashing one and I don't feel like getting another sim unlock code at this point)

Justice™ said:
I think I might've completely screwed up what I was trying to say or you may have misunderstood what I was saying. So I'm just going to refer back to what I was trying to explain in context of an older HTC device (Wildfire, in this case).
In some scenarios with the Wildfire, we were able to run an RUU and successfully roll back to a stock rom whilst retaining a S-OFF bootloader (Meaning the ability to use fastboot to flash a recovery and root using a su zip was possible). I think I was trying to say this may be possible/may occur with the DHD. Meaning that OP would just have to use fastboot to flash a recovery and an appropriate superuser zip to get root, and therefore any version would be rootable (even if he rolled back). However at this point I'm not sure if the DHD RUU's overwrite the hboot/bootloader. (I've never really felt like flashing one and I don't feel like getting another sim unlock code at this point)
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No problem man, but Hboot and S-OFF are not the same. All RUU's have partitions in them including bootloader, however nand partition is not reverted to S-ON by flashing an stock rom, unless you specifically do that. There is no risk to lose the S-OFF state by flashing a RUU.

glevitan said:
Well you are definitely wrong. All versions are rootable. Ruu stands for remote update utility and it is the stock firmware of the device.
You cannot flash a ruu in recovery but have to do it in fastboot. From there you can unlock the bootloader and root.
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I stand corrected Monsieur :highfive:

??
i dont now .......:cyclops:

I didn't see mention of s-off in your question. If you are not s-off, you have to extract the rom's boot.IMG and fastboot flash it after rom installation.
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You can install with RUU, then u can downgrade, root, s-off it with AAHK2. So it's possible to root it

Stuck in Recovery & can't start any ROM

Hi!
I just HTCdev unlocked the bootloader and rooted the HTC Desire HD and everything was fine. I was in the stock ROM rooted, so I flashed the recovery and then I tried to install some ROMs and everything failed, I was stucked in the HTC loading screen...
I tried to flash several ROMs but the result was always the same: stuck in the loading screen. I did a full wipe everytime of course, but it didn´t solve anything.
At the end I tried to flash this:
[ROM][DEC 8] Official RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1 STOCK ROOTED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382235
And it worked!
But if I tried to flash another ROM like SlimBean but again, stucked...
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks!

This rom is old school. U need an old recovery..what rom are u interested in...cm.. or sense?
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I actually realised that I was in S-ON so I had to flash the boot.img separately. It worked then!
Thanks!

frozst said:
I actually realised that I was in S-ON so I had to flash the boot.img separately. It worked then!
Thanks!
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How exactly did you falsh the boot.img
I've been struggling with this all day.

just extract the boot.img and then flash it:
fastboot flash boot boot.img