largest battery for satnav motorbike use - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories

hi all i have ordered one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390430333355?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
to use on my motorbike and i now want a huge or multiple batteries so that i can use copilot to navigate the uk with, i dont want to spend huge amounts but also dont want something that is crap and will damage my phone,
so please can someone advice me of big Mah batteries that will last longer than the standard and also be save to use without damaging my phone like some of the super cheep ebay ports will
thankyou

anyone could you advise me on a battery please

I think you might be better off with a power point to continuously charge it. They're just as cheap, even from the likes of Maplins, and easy to install.
I gave up depending on batteries on my bike years ago, if you have several they're fine for a day or two so long as you don't mind having to stop and change them out at random times, but if you're on an extended trip it can sometimes get tricky to find somewhere to recharge at night especially when out foreign or say camping.

FlamingGoat said:
I think you might be better off with a power point to continuously charge it. They're just as cheap, even from the likes of Maplins, and easy to install.
I gave up depending on batteries on my bike years ago, if you have several they're fine for a day or two so long as you don't mind having to stop and change them out at random times, but if you're on an extended trip it can sometimes get tricky to find somewhere to recharge at night especially when out foreign or say camping.
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the waterproof case i got only just fits the note so no room to plug a cable in, to bad as this would have been a great idea

I've got an Aquabox which is pretty much the same as yours and had the same problem, so I just drilled a hole in the thing
It's mounted to the bars and most of the rain is deflected by the screen anyway so not much actually gets to hit it, and it's survived since Christmas right on the Atlantic coast through lots of the wet stuff

you could also get something like this
Them Aquaboxes look alright ... might have to get one of them myself

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Cameron Sino Extended Battery - Review

Thought I would write a quick review of the extended battery I just bought.
Background
I was rather unhappy with my original battery as were most people! It only lasted me a day and as my job requires me to be out and about a lot, plus to call people often, I thought something more robust would be better. My solution = The Cameron Sino 2600mAH Battery!
Initial Impressions
The battery is twice the size of stock. The battery cover did not close on my phone. Total size isnt too bad. It nearly doubles the phone thickness, but when I come onto the testing section later this is a worthwhile sacrifice.
Cover Fit
The cover didnt fit so I decided to buy a 32gb micro sd card (which works fine), and to super glue the cover on. I figured that using a scalpel I could remove the back (I tested and it works fine) if ever required. Hopefully I wont need to access it ever, or until I upgrade in 18 months and decide to sell it.
Performance
After charging to 100%, running down to 0% 3 times, I have now had the phone on for 5 days and it's current charge level is 10%. As you can see this is awesome. My settings:
Helix Launcher
Wifi On about an hour a day
Light phone calls (around 5 hours)
Light texting - 20 odd a day
3g Off
GPS off
I imagine in real life conditions 3 days moderate use would be obtainable.
Conclusion
Overall I am very very happy with this battery. It really brings this phone into the "worthwhile for daily use" category (it should have been here originally ofcourse). Hopefully will be able to use the standard UI rather than Helix when 2.1 comes out. Damn app power leaks.
Rating: 4/5 (Battery door a poor fit)
Edit: Forgot to mention at £16.99 delivered (amazon.co.uk), you can hardly go wrong!!!
Could you post a pic of your phone now please?
Unfortunately my only camera is my phone...... sorry. Maybe someone else can!?
Wow! I assume you like your phone carrier since it is difficult now to remove the sim card.
Well my carrier (Three) used to be terrible. However they appear to have upgraded their cell towers and I now have full signal most places that my friends dont! So yeah I like my carrier!
Why dont you buy the extra thick covers that are all over ebay so that you dont have to glue anything?
Edit: My bad they arent on ebay, but there is a thread in the accessories forum, I'm sure of it.
theres a couple of posts and reviews in a thread on here already and myself and several others paid just £12.99 free postage from ebay
Yeah I rarely buy off ebay - had a lot of problems with sellers before (might just be my luck ). I saw the other reviews, and just wanted to do my own hehe.
any chance to get a pic of your phone? how it looks with the glued cover?
If i ma not wrong, that battery comes with a cover for X10 right? Are u saying that that cover that they provide does not fit properly?
Mine fits properly. You just have to force the sides of the cover into place and thats it. Battery life is much better than the oem one and has a very noticeable difference.
ordered one from http://www.megacapacity.com/26985.html . Lets see how it goes
Just updating this thread for potential cameron sino battery buyers. I got the package 4 days ago. I removed my stock battery, popped this battery in, used the back cover that was provided by them. The phone became almost twice the depth thanx to the battery.
Then the issues started. Even though the green light used to come on when connected to the mains, the phone never used to start. Initially i thought the charge is low, so left it overnight, but then the next morning i saw tht I still had the same issue. After fidgeting with it for sometime, i noticed that there is a 1(or 0.5) mm gap between the battery and contacts because of which the x10 did not start. I used a thin plastic sheet(amost like a sheet of paper) to hold the battery up against the contact and it worked fine. Right now the problem is that if i shake the phone a bit vigorously, it gets disconnected because of the shorter battery.
But i want to see how the battery lasts so am using it for now. It all boils down to the time i have to wait till next charge. If it really gives around 70% more time (as claimed by many in other forums) i will use it despite the bulkiness and the smaller battery issues. Thanx for reading!!!
so this comes with a case as well for £12.99?
Khimera said:
Just updating this thread for potential cameron sino battery buyers. I got the package 4 days ago. I removed my stock battery, popped this battery in, used the back cover that was provided by them. The phone became almost twice the depth thanx to the battery.
Then the issues started. Even though the green light used to come on when connected to the mains, the phone never used to start. Initially i thought the charge is low, so left it overnight, but then the next morning i saw tht I still had the same issue. After fidgeting with it for sometime, i noticed that there is a 1(or 0.5) mm gap between the battery and contacts because of which the x10 did not start. I used a thin plastic sheet(amost like a sheet of paper) to hold the battery up against the contact and it worked fine. Right now the problem is that if i shake the phone a bit vigorously, it gets disconnected because of the shorter battery.
But i want to see how the battery lasts so am using it for now. It all boils down to the time i have to wait till next charge. If it really gives around 70% more time (as claimed by many in other forums) i will use it despite the bulkiness and the smaller battery issues. Thanx for reading!!!
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Thanks for this info! I was having the same issue with this battery. I thought I was having a driver issue for extended batteries but after reading your post, I confirmed that it wasnt the case. Fixed the problem but with a different approach.
What I did was I soldered a small amount of lead onto the contacts on the battery (careful enough not to short the contacts) so that it would give better contact on pins of the x10.. I know the process seems a little bit drastic but it works! I can't make the phone shutdown even when I shook the hell out of this phone.
peedee888 said:
Thanks for this info! I was having the same issue with this battery. I thought I was having a driver issue for extended batteries but after reading your post, I confirmed that it wasnt the case. Fixed the problem but with a different approach.
What I did was I soldered a small amount of lead onto the contacts on the battery (careful enough not to short the contacts) so that it would give better contact on pins of the x10.. I know the process seems a little bit drastic but it works! I can't make the phone shutdown even when I shook the hell out of this phone.
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Thanx man!!! I was doubting if only I had the issue. Your plan of soldering seems a permanent fix Will try that when i get time
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameron-Sin...321O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1302209543&sr=8-5
dont know if its just been discounted but its down to £14.99 (from £16.99 OP) on amazon uk.
rojdag said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameron-Sin...321O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1302209543&sr=8-5
dont know if its just been discounted but its down to £14.99 (from £16.99 OP) on amazon uk.
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still expensive !!
to quote myself
kmaximax said:
theres a couple of posts and reviews in a thread on here already and myself and several others paid just £12.99 free postage from ebay
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still expensive !!
to quote myself
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not really, i stupidly bought a mugen 1800mah for 33usd! at least it fits properly though.
awsome!!!
5 DAYS!!!!!
awsome, I was planning to sell the phone because of the battery, unfourtionatly I live in sudan and there is no way to buy stuff online here!

Zaggfolio Keyboard Charging Problem

I have only had my Zaggfolio keyboard/case for a few days now, and by and large I am quite happy with it (other than the shift-space language change, anyway to turn that off?). Had my tab since a few days after launch, but hadn't bought a case for it until now as I hadn't had a need to take it anywhere for an extended period of time, but this Christmas I am visiting the in-laws, and well...'nuff said.
Anyway, I was letting the keyboard charge earlier, but upon removing the cord from it I heard a snapping noise, like something broke. The charger seems fine, and plugs into my phone still with no issues. However, when I plug it into the Zaggfolio keyboard, it only will charge if I hold it at a certain angle. I think something inside the keyboard that holds the micro-usb port may have broken. Has anyone else experienced this? Should I try and exchange it (bought locally at Best Buy), or what do you guys think?
If it were me, I would go take it back and exchange it for another one. I just bought mine today and so far I like it. Though the keyboard gets in the way for me sometimes.
Its possible that the board broke or a connection broke near the charge port which is a pain.
I just got mine last week and this case/keyboard is the best ive come across. If i were you i would take it back and next time be a little more careful removing the usb plug from the keyboard. The only thing i would change and it maybe not even be app licapable but i would leave a space open to charge the keyboard while you have your tab connected to it. But im not sure if you can actually do it while it is connected so ill have to test it out and post on how it works out. thanks for the heads up ill make sure im extra careful plugging in and removing the usb cord.
I ended up exchanging it on the 20th for another case, since I was going out of town for a few days. I used it a lot the first few days I was out of town, and the keyboard worked pretty well overall, no lag or anything, and I was careful with the charging and it had no issues either. The last few days I was out of town I didn't use my Tab much, busy with holiday crap, so it just sat in the case. When I got back home I was taking everything out, and found that my Tab had those Newton rings on it. I took it out of the case and just let it sit overnight, they were mostly gone by the next day (about 4 inches wide by 1.5 inches tall starting out), and totally gone by the next. In any case, I'm now leery about the case doing that, since I read that some people also had similar issues (though I did see that there's some debate over whether or not it's the Tab itself or cases that do it), so I took the case and returned it today. I'm probably gonna get one of the Pyro cases, the clip probably from what I've read so far, but we'll see. I've looked at various cases on here and on Amazon and whatnot, my main need is the lower angle (often referred to as the "typing angle"), as opposed to the "viewing angle" that the Zagg has, so I think the Pyro would be good. I dunno, I have yet to see what I would call the "perfect" case for the 10.1, I need to keep looking around.
ive gone thru about 7 cases and this case+keyboard is THE BEST i have come by so far. im so glad i listened to task650's advise on this one! But to each there own.

External Battery Power Pack

So I just purchased this power pack: Amazon Link
Price: $19.99
I've tried it all, from carrying spare batteries to the power packs that you plug directly into your micro-USB on your phone. And I think eventually I found exactly what I needed. And for cheap too.
This thing is listed at 5000mAH...dont know how accurate it is, but compared to the other ones listed on the market (name brand ones are around $50-60), I don't really care if it was like 4000mAH.
If you're on airplanes / trips alot, let me tell you that this is ALOT more convenient than carrying around a spare battery, waiting for your phone to die, and then turning it off, taking off the case and swapping it out. And you don't have to worry about getting a third party battery that holds a crappy charge, you get to use your OEM battery for everything. Not only that, but this thing comes with TWO USB ports, so you can charge yours and a friends. Even if they have an iphone or something.
It's the only thing that ensures you can keep using your devices for hours and hours without having to worry about running out or having to stop what you're doing to make a battery swap or something.
Good find. I will be ordering one n trying it out. Thanks!!
I bought one of those probably a year ago just thinking it would be a handy thing to have & I've never used it once LOL
be sure to check out the new trent offerings. Absolutely excellent.
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I bought one of those probably a year ago just thinking it would be a handy thing to have & I've never used it once LOL
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haha yeah like i said it depends on your situation. I always wanted something like this but couldn't justify spending $60 dollars. But considering spare batteries are $10. And you're getting enough juice to charge your phone 2.5 times over, i think a $20 price point sounds amazing. Even if you will only use it 3 times a year when you travel.
...its kind of like the tablet dilemma most people have. Most people don't use tablets enough to justify $500. But make a $200 tablet (hello nexus), and all of a sudden you wouldn't mind having it even if it sits on your end table most of the time and you have it when you want it.

Looking for large Battery/Battery-Case for OP7P

I am looking to swap from an LG V20 (H910) to the OnePlus 7 Pro... The main thing holding me back is a good extended battery for the new phone... With the LG V20, it apparently was one of the last phones that offered a removable battery, and this let it exchange the original 3,200 mAh for a 10,800 mAh battery, and just put on a replacement rear cover... While I know that this will not work on the OnePlus, they do have similar cases available for the iPhones that plug into the normal port and charge them through that port from an extended battery life battery-case...
My searches have so far come up negative, and this is the main issue preventing me getting the phone... I have very large hands, so I actually prefer the phone to be physically large anyway, makes me feel less like I am going to break it...
You help is appreciated
Surely Zerolemon will make one before long, but no word yet. They did one for the last few OnePlus phones, so it would reason the 7 Pro is on the list. Might try a DASH ready power bank, or wait for a WARP ready one to come out but having it built into a case is optimal for some.
I am genuinely interested in the use scenarios for these in modern phones. Do you travel a lot, need multi day use, play a lot of games, use it as a primary work device or actually talk on your phone a lot? I use my phone an embarrassing amount every day, probably more than I should but would not need something like this. Intrigued by demographic of accessories like this.
I have personally used them in the past but when phones were different.
I, too, am hoping zero lemon releases a battery case for the oneplus 7 pro. It's mainly for my prolonged usage of playing pokemon go.
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I am genuinely interested in the use scenarios for these in modern phones. Do you travel a lot, need multi day use, play a lot of games, use it as a primary work device or actually talk on your phone a lot? I use my phone an embarrassing amount every day, probably more than I should but would not need something like this. Intrigued by demographic of accessories like this.
I have personally used them in the past but when phones were different.
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@thetonyclifton I'll give you a good one.
I road ride, quite a bit (for a 50-something guy), I used to race, not that many years ago, so I still ride as far as my darn foot/nerve issue will let me, which can be 75+ (mi), on some weekends.
Here in the PNW, it's very easy to get into areas, even on a road bike where my service (ATT) "wanes" or just is completely gone (this is particularly bad when I go on a long MTB, which is less often).
Same for hiking around here, although I mostly just turn my cell off when I'm hiking, or leave it at home, just depends.
Anyway, if I'm out all day, say 6-8+ hours, on a ride/lunch-stop/ride, along those lines, and going in/out of coverage, it REALLY eats up my battery, FAST. I like to be able to rely on it, to check the weather six times, when it starts to look "threatening" later on, send a few texts, whatever, without wondering if I'm going to run out of juice, towards the end, that kind of stuff. This case would "fit the need", pretty much perfectly", as "one unit", rather than carrying a separate extra battery cable, etc (jersey pockets will only hold so much ;-]).
All that said though, I like using Qi receivers, having come from a LONG line of WinPhones that had the built-in, WAY back, so all my Android phones (Nexus 6, OP5T, OP6, now OP7Pro, the rest "trickled down into our family") have had a Qi receiver on them, behind a basic TPU case.
Occasionally, I carry slim-ish battery pack, with a Qi charging coil built into it, but that's also a bit much for a jersey-pocket.
If I had this type of pack, I'd install it, before long rides/hikes/etc, and and it'd solve my issue, of low-coverage being so darn tough on ANY phone battery, in one, nice, modular package. Not saying I'd buy one of these, 100%, but I'd definitely be a good candidate.
I do hear what you're saying, the "use case" for these having changed a LOT, say from 10 years back, there's no question about the overall advancement making these somewhat less "necessary".
On the other hand, I do like only having to charge my sports-activity watch every 3 days or so, that kind of "appliance-like" dependability is pretty cool; perhaps not necessary in a phone these days, but still pretty cool! I don't think anyone would "turn away" a 2-3 day phone, (say with 4-6hrs screen-on-time/day), if battery-tech evolved, in some rapid way, anytime soon
If this case had an Qi-coil built into it, then I bet it WOULD REALLY SELL, given the lack of Qi coil on the OP7-series, if anyone from ZeroLemon is listening...
So yeah, there's my diatribe, and perhaps some light on an "interesting subject", I suppose...
pgrey2 said:
@thetonyclifton I'll give you a good one.
I road ride, quite a bit (for a 50-something guy), I used to race, not that many years ago, so I still ride as far as my darn foot/nerve issue will let me, which can be 75+ (mi), on some weekends.
Here in the PNW, it's very easy to get into areas, even on a road bike where my service (ATT) "wanes" or just is completely gone (this is particularly bad when I go on a long MTB, which is less often).
Same for hiking around here, although I mostly just turn my cell off when I'm hiking, or leave it at home, just depends.
Anyway, if I'm out all day, say 6-8+ hours, on a ride/lunch-stop/ride, along those lines, and going in/out of coverage, it REALLY eats up my battery, FAST. I like to be able to rely on it, to check the weather six times, when it starts to look "threatening" later on, send a few texts, whatever, without wondering if I'm going to run out of juice, towards the end, that kind of stuff. This case would "fit the need", pretty much perfectly", as "one unit", rather than carrying a separate extra battery cable, etc (jersey pockets will only hold so much ;-]).
All that said though, I like using Qi receivers, having come from a LONG line of WinPhones that had the built-in, WAY back, so all my Android phones (Nexus 6, OP5T, OP6, now OP7Pro, the rest "trickled down into our family") have had a Qi receiver on them, behind a basic TPU case.
Occasionally, I carry slim-ish battery pack, with a Qi charging coil built into it, but that's also a bit much for a jersey-pocket.
If I had this type of pack, I'd install it, before long rides/hikes/etc, and and it'd solve my issue, of low-coverage being so darn tough on ANY phone battery, in one, nice, modular package. Not saying I'd buy one of these, 100%, but I'd definitely be a good candidate.
I do hear what you're saying, the "use case" for these having changed a LOT, say from 10 years back, there's no question about the overall advancement making these somewhat less "necessary".
On the other hand, I do like only having to charge my sports-activity watch every 3 days or so, that kind of "appliance-like" dependability is pretty cool; perhaps not necessary in a phone these days, but still pretty cool! I don't think anyone would "turn away" a 2-3 day phone, (say with 4-6hrs screen-on-time/day), if battery-tech evolved, in some rapid way, anytime soon
If this case had an Qi-coil built into it, then I bet it WOULD REALLY SELL, given the lack of Qi coil on the OP7-series, if anyone from ZeroLemon is listening...
So yeah, there's my diatribe, and perhaps some light on an "interesting subject", I suppose...
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Thanks. Yes that is interesting. I can see a use for people regularly away from a charger with very heavy use. People who work in the field etc too I guess. Though I think a good power bank would be better in quite a few of those cases too.
Enjoy the bike, great hobby.
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Thanks. Yes that is interesting. I can see a use for people regularly away from a charger with very heavy use. People who work in the field etc too I guess. Though I think a good power bank would be better in quite a few of those cases too.
Enjoy the bike, great hobby.
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@thetonyclifton Yep, no question, I could "work around" the issue, with a small/slim power bank type of deal, but the added-battery case, particularly IF it added Qi charging, would be an awesome option to have.
Thanks for the cycling comment, I enjoy it, immensely, riding-fast/skiing-fast (I used to race here, too) are sort of my Zen-moments ;-]
I've also traveled by bike (i.e. loaded touring bike), pretty extensively, which is another (albeit adjunct) use-case for topic at-hand.
Hobbies are a good thing, it's hard to have too many (although my wife might disagree ;-0)...
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@thetonyclifton Yep, no question, I could "work around" the issue, with a small/slim power bank type of deal, but the added-battery case, particularly IF it added Qi charging, would be an awesome option to have.
Thanks for the cycling comment, I enjoy it, immensely, riding-fast/skiing-fast (I used to race here, too) are sort of my Zen-moments ;-]
I've also traveled by bike (i.e. loaded touring bike), pretty extensively, which is another (albeit adjunct) use-case for topic at-hand.
Hobbies are a good thing, it's hard to have too many (although my wife might disagree ;-0)...
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A good Garmin or similar specific accessory for the bike might cut down on your need for phone use while out there...and be another thing to annoy your wife ?
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A good Garmin or similar specific accessory for the bike might cut down on your need for phone use while out there...and be another thing to annoy your wife
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Yeah, I've considered it, I have an old "Oregon XXX" unit I use, with good base-maps, for loaded touring, but I mostly just pull it out when I'm confused about something on a map, or similar, or I'm looking for someplace to buy groceries ;-]
If the Garmin or another bike GPS ever gets to a "decent enough battery life" (hmm, interesting that this is a cell-battery thread...), say a couple weeks worth, like 30-40 hours of riding, I'd be a lot more interested.
I like the fact that my "good old altimeter bike computer" runs for a solid 12-18 months, on a single coin-cell (wish it were a rechargeable, but that's tough with coin-cells), and just "counts my miles and climbing, basic stats", without fail.
I get a hard-time, in my fast riding group, for being a s/w-h/w engineering guy, but eschewing a "real GPS cycling computer", when darn near everyone else has their fancy Garmin's, or whatever ;-]
I do use an old Suunto Ambit 3 watch, for tracking my weekly riding, but it runs a good 30-40 hours, in "high GPS mode", and 100-120, in "low GPS mode", which is handy for touring, I can easily go a week without having to charge it.
For touring though, it'd have to be a step-up, still (from current GPS units-battery), maybe an ultra-low-GPS-screen-off-mostly "mode", or something like that, so it'd go for at least 5-7 days, without a charge. I'm often camped, and carrying an extra battery for my phone is enough, already, I don't want to carrying more, or even having to charge the GPS every or every-other day, that'd just be annoying, I'm a little more "back to basics" when I'm touring ;-]
I have a decent "general sense of direction", in most cases, and a pretty solid "visual route memory", so unless I'm exploring someplace new, I don't use maps when out riding, much anyway (solo exploring new streets/routes, perhaps), probably comes from years of backpacking and climbing, often off-route stuff, you sort of get a "feel" for how to dead-reckon stuff, or how to pick out a few landmarks, and keep yourself going the "general right way", I guess...
Or I'm a complete weirdo, which is possible, although my daughter seems to have the same sense, when we're bike touring (my wife could get lost in a subdivision though, and would admit to that;-]), she and I are the ones pouring over the map, and pointing at stuff, it's kinda' comical ;-]
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Yeah, I've considered it, I have an old "Oregon XXX" unit I use, with good base-maps, for loaded touring, but I mostly just pull it out when I'm confused about something on a map, or similar, or I'm looking for someplace to buy groceries ;-]
If the Garmin or another bike GPS ever gets to a "decent enough battery life" (hmm, interesting that this is a cell-battery thread...), say a couple weeks worth, like 30-40 hours of riding, I'd be a lot more interested.
I like the fact that my "good old altimeter bike computer" runs for a solid 12-18 months, on a single coin-cell (wish it were a rechargeable, but that's tough with coin-cells), and just "counts my miles and climbing, basic stats", without fail.
I get a hard-time, in my fast riding group, for being a s/w-h/w engineering guy, but eschewing a "real GPS cycling computer", when darn near everyone else has their fancy Garmin's, or whatever ;-]
I do use an old Suunto Ambit 3 watch, for tracking my weekly riding, but it runs a good 30-40 hours, in "high GPS mode", and 100-120, in "low GPS mode", which is handy for touring, I can easily go a week without having to charge it.
For touring though, it'd have to be a step-up, still (from current GPS units-battery), maybe an ultra-low-GPS-screen-off-mostly "mode", or something like that, so it'd go for at least 5-7 days, without a charge. I'm often camped, and carrying an extra battery for my phone is enough, already, I don't want to carrying more, or even having to charge the GPS every or every-other day, that'd just be annoying, I'm a little more "back to basics" when I'm touring ;-]
I have a decent "general sense of direction", in most cases, and a pretty solid "visual route memory", so unless I'm exploring someplace new, I don't use maps when out riding, much anyway (solo exploring new streets/routes, perhaps), probably comes from years of backpacking and climbing, often off-route stuff, you sort of get a "feel" for how to dead-reckon stuff, or how to pick out a few landmarks, and keep yourself going the "general right way", I guess...
Or I'm a complete weirdo, which is possible, although my daughter seems to have the same sense, when we're bike touring (my wife could get lost in a subdivision though, and would admit to that;-]), she and I are the ones pouring over the map, and pointing at stuff, it's kinda' comical ;-]
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Don't think you are a weirdo but think you are destined to be in the niche of a niche for these products ?
You have very unique use scenarios. Basically you need the stuff they give the military ? or for people who live off grid.
thetonyclifton said:
I am genuinely interested in the use scenarios for these in modern phones. Do you travel a lot, need multi day use, play a lot of games, use it as a primary work device or actually talk on your phone a lot? I use my phone an embarrassing amount every day, probably more than I should but would not need something like this. Intrigued by demographic of accessories like this.
I have personally used them in the past but when phones were different.
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I currently have an LG V20, which at this point looks like it is going to be the last phone to ever have a removable battery, and switched it to have an 10,800 mAh battery instead (I even ebay'ed a replacement back cover, and man hacked it to have a hole for the new battery, this let the NFC continue working)
I have found that at first I can get about 2 days of normal use out of them when new, but after just a few months, I am getting down to just 20% or so at the end of the day... I prefer to just plug when I go to sleep rather than constantly topping off during the day... I think the original phone would only get me through about 1/3 of my day after just a few months, so I think phones should ship with 10,000 mAh batteries from the factory... I think that Energizer phone has the right idea, just a terrible implementation
Also as I mentioned, I have giant hands, and prefer to have a phone that doesn't feel like it could give me a papercut if I hold it too tight... I like my brick phone
Looks like Zero Lemon has no ETA for producing a case for the 7 Pro, lets hope that changes soon.
https://twitter.com/zero_lemon/status/1137919555760640000
thetonyclifton said:
A good Garmin or similar specific accessory for the bike might cut down on your need for phone use while out there...and be another thing to annoy your wife
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graycatgrayhat said:
Looks like Zero Lemon has no ETA for producing a case for the 7 Pro, lets hope that changes soon.
https://twitter.com/zero_lemon/status/1137919555760640000
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@graycatgrayhat Send them a "customer contact message", I did. The more they get, the more likely it is they'll produce one, particularly if they're "teetering" on their decision to make one for the OP7 Pro. Worst, case, you spent 60 seconds filling out a short-form...
Oh yeah, and ask for it to have a Qi coil, in the ZeroLemon pack, I REALLY think that would make this thing sell like hotcakes, given that it adds a LOT more than just a bigger battery runtime (wireless charging, while still having access to the USB port, something that is not really do-able with the current phone, my USB plugged with my cheesy, low-current-but-effective Qi coil, already, and I'd love to have it back...).
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Don't think you are a weirdo but think you are destined to be in the niche of a niche for these products
You have very unique use scenarios. Basically you need the stuff they give the military or for people who live off grid.
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Yeah, most of my friends would agree with you, I've been a niche cyclist/explorer, most of my life. My Dad is a geologist, and we spent many times in "odd spots" in various places in Alaska, checking out old mines, surveying new sites, driving HUGE heavy equipment (I drove a D9 Cat when I was 10, across a big river too, and could drive a loader and operate it, by the same age, along with other stuff, backhoes, forklifts and such, I'm definitely "odd").
I would say though, even though my use-cases might be viewed as sort of "fringe", I bet a LOT of people would like to get 2-3+ days, from any of the aforementioned devices, right?
I will say, too, that when I started bike-touring, in the early 90's, I had a little solar-grid, that would recharge AA or AAA batteries, very effectively. It was "ahead of its' time, fully-sealed and all, I still have it somewhere, although I haven't used it for a few years now. It kept my headlamp and the few other batteries I had, back then, charged along my first 5.5 week tour, just bumping along on the back of a pannier...
I sure wish they used AAA and AA (rechargeable) batteries for more devices, these days, you can get REALLY energy-dense models, that last for a LONG time, charges-wise, and then you can simply replace them, eh? Plus, you'd have less problems with a "cheap cell replacement battery from who-knows-where, hoping that it wasn't going to catch fire, the first few times you charge it).
I get that a AAA has a pretty big diameter, for most modern mobiles, but I think it would be close, really close, say in my OnePlus 7 phone, in terms of being able to "just slide in" a set, on one end or something, and still have room for a full rubber seal around the compartment...
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I get that a AAA has a pretty big diameter, for most modern mobiles, but I think it would be close, really close, say in my OnePlus 7 phone, in terms of being able to "just slide in" a set, on one end or something, and still have room for a full rubber seal around the compartment...
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Your uses are interesting, bit unusual, not odd just niche which make product development unlikely.
The disposal batteries in a phone are never going to happen. It's not the size of the battery it's the totally empty space needed to fit them in. Phone companies, not even 3rd party accessory manufacturers are also not going to trust degradable batteries with so much room for user error, poor contact connections and poor user practice to hook up to phones with heat and high voltage chargers.
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Your uses are interesting, bit unusual, not odd just niche which make product development unlikely.
The disposal batteries in a phone are never going to happen. It's not the size of the battery it's the totally empty space needed to fit them in. Phone companies, not even 3rd party accessory manufacturers are also not going to trust degradable batteries with so much room for user error, poor contact connections and poor user practice to hook up to phones with heat and high voltage chargers.
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Yeah, maybe. There are phones with >5000 mAh batteries now, although most of those aren't very optimized, to really take advantage of the extra longevity, the ones I've seen anyway.
I still think that people would be "elated", to be able to use their mobiles, full-tilt, for 2-3 days, and still have "enough juice left" to not stress...
I don't mean "disposable batteries", for the AAA, and AA, suggestions, I mean "rechargeable" ones.
It's pretty easy to buy high-quality, 3000+ mAH AA's, and similar AAA's, upwards of 1200 mAH now.
On the other hand, if I order a "random replacement LiIon cell", for my mobile, it's VERY hard to find one, aftermarket, that's of "known good quality", all the battery "re-packagers" have learned to put OEM-looking stamps on them, and even things like the "UL logo"...
Even IF you do manage to find a decent replacement, it's generally a HUGE pain to replace it, involving a lot of very precise cutting (glue around edges), sketchy prying, tugging, pulling, and swearing, trying to get a phone apart "enough", to slot the new battery in...
LiIon is a MUCH more dangerous tech to "get wrong" too, in terms of the line/signal that reports the temperature and charging-state, back to the input line, than NiMH.
Even so, there are also high-quality rechargeable AAA LiIon's out there, too, with even (obviously) higher energy-density, than their NiMH precursors, if you will.
I get that the era of "replaceable LiIon brick-batteries" has probably come/gone, but I think that a "standardized" battery, perhaps the newer AAAA (in NiMH or LiIon), with high-quality cells, at only 8.3mm diameter is "the candidate".
Or, maybe I'm just looking for "a solution without a problem", but I doubt it.
How many people pay some "random cell repair store" say $40-80, plus the cost of an "unknown LiIon brick battery", on a regular basis. I bet almost ALL of those people would be elated, if they could just undo a few screws, buy some decent (Panasonic, Sanyo, etc.) AAA or AAAA cells, pop-them-in, and go back to "full capacity", after 1.5 years of a mobile devices' life, for only say $10-15?
That "seems" like a pretty good, real-world scenario (well beyond my "niche" stuff), IMHO...
Good banter, BTW!
It's always "refreshing" to come over to XDA, from things like the ATT and OnePlus forums. There are some sharp people, who know the industry, on those boards, too, but "less so", on average ;-]
If I were writing much code anymore, I'd probably spend a lot more time on XDA, but I've moved over to the "evil Tech-PM" type of roles, although I am "that PM" who often jumps in and starts debugging stuff, or signs off on a code-review for check-in, which is sometimes appreciated, and sometimes just annoys people, it depends on the team(s) I'm working with...
What I"m really aiming for, is to find a tech-PM role that's mostly remote; I have a bad nerve injury, that prevents me from sitting or standing for any length of continuous time (although I can still put in a 2-3 hour ride, it's a "nerve neutral" position, for me, for about that length of time), so it's a "weird deal" to be a PM who's always "pacing around" meetings, even if I'm not presenting (presenting can make it easier, to stand-up/sit-down). I'm perfectly eligible for disability, although I just don't ever see that happening, I'm way too driven ;-]
I could probably be a moderator, in many places, but I like to "bring teams together" on tech-issues, even down to the individual-interface level (API, whatever), I find that much more satisfying, professionally, than doing "policing" ;-]
@pgrey2
I think the answer is actually in your narrative. Exactly because people will make ropey versions of replaceable batteries and in so doing make them more dangerous. Because the phone manufacturers lose the control over their phones exploding when that is someone else fault. And because replacing batteries even with great, safe after market versions will prolong the life of a device which they want you to replace every couple of years. It won't happen. People will love to have 2-3 day battery life and it might happen but so far the new features of a phone have been draining batteries at the same rate as their capacity, size and cost improvements have been made.
Good luck with the job. Sounds like you know what you want and what will work for you. I assume you live in the US. I don't. We have a welfare state and laws which (relatively speaking) protect people with disabilities a bit better. You should be able to work the amount you can and be helped to do so for as long as possible.
I bought the OnePlus 7 pro then realized there was no battery case. The current battery won't last. I hope zero ? will make one but not too bulky. This phone is great but the down size is it's battery size.
Newdery perhaps???????
Newdery. A brand I no almost nothing about. While searching for Oneplus 7 Pro battery case this brand popped up on amazon. I'd really love to give you the link but as a new person I cannot. Search Newdery Oneplus 7 Pro. Or just Oneplus 7 Pro battery case. You'll run into a few, but no lemon.
I came across the Newdery brand one over the weekend on ebay really cheap in new condition. Still haven't received it yet. Well I'll try and report back. If anyone still cares that is.....
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Newdery. A brand I no almost nothing about. While searching for Oneplus 7 Pro battery case this brand popped up on amazon. I'd really love to give you the link but as a new person I cannot. Search Newdery Oneplus 7 Pro. Or just Oneplus 7 Pro battery case. You'll run into a few, but no lemon.
I came across the Newdery brand one over the weekend on ebay really cheap in new condition. Still haven't received it yet. Well I'll try and report back. If anyone still cares that is.....
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There actually is a shimmer of hope. That hope comes in the form of the Oneplus 7T Pro. That and the 7 Pro have the exact same body style and fit like a glove. Maybe all this added attention might bring about a style battery case that will fit them both.
One thing to note is the (IR) laser autofocus rangefinder on the 7T is on the left of the lenses, on the rear of the phone. So you won't have any problem getting a 7T case fitting the 7 Pro. But if you have a 7T you can't use a 7 Pro case properly. Unless your willing to cut a whole I suppose.

Question Z Fold 3 'Too Cold To Charge' after water damage

Okay, hello XDA Forums peoples! Ive been lurking here for like a decade. I feel bad for bothering you nice people, but now I'm at my wits end with this phone.
Okay, so, long story short:
Z Fold 3, let it run the One U.I. 4 update, bricked the whole phone, wouldnt come back on. This happens a week away from being out of warranty. So i get samsung to agree to let Asurion/uBreakiFix repair it (I almost always fix my own electronics, I hate Asurion, I've had problems dealing with them before, but its free so whatever). Well they get it working, i asked what they did and they were basically like 'uhhh idk'. I assume it was just an 'unplug the battery and plug it back in' kind of thing.
Anyways fast forward to a couple months ago. Im walking along the creek, i always keep my phone in my backpack for safety. Zipper on my backpack comes open some, phone falls out and directly into the water for about 3-5 seconds. Goes black within 15 minutes. Alright, so it seems like maybe the boys who worked on this didnt seal it back properly. Whatever.
I let it dry for about 4 or 5 days. Comes back on, everything works except the front screen's digitizer(which is cool for me, because the inside screen still works fine) and its reporting too cold to charge, so now once the battery runs out i have a new foldable brick! Yay! I check the battery temperature thats reported in settings and its completely fine. I hit it with a hair dryer for like 5 minutes to try and trip the thermometer, and nothing happens.
I tried some cheap shots in the dark, i replace the USB charging board, i replace the wireless charging coil, both of which have thermistors on other older samsung phones, so i figured it was a decent guess. Still too cold to charge.
So I find a schematic, or not exactly a schematic, but like a boardview, i guess. So at least i know where the thermistors are to check them. Theres about 10 thermistors on the main and sub boards. 5 of which are covered by metal shielding which i am just terrified of trying to remove, mainly because i havent done it before. So i check the other half.
The thermistors used in these phones are like inverse, so they have less resistance for higher temps and more resistance for lower temps. If one of them is dead, it will have like "maximum resistance", right? Which would report the coldest possible temperature, right? So that all makes sense, to me at least.
The 5 i can get to with my meter to check, they seem to work completely fine. From what research ive done they seem to be like 100k resistors when measured at ~70 degrees f, and i can watch the resistance go up and down when its cooled or heated past that temperature. Okay, perfect. That all checks out.
Because the other ones are under some metal shielding, i assume theyre most likely fine because any water would have a harder time getting in there. So i skip to the most expensive option so far: i buy two replacement batteries. The schematics do not include the battery, so i dont know where the thermistors are on my current batteries to check them, if that was the problem.
Well, batteries came yesterday, i pop them in, still too cold to charge. I've already ran the phone dead checking it, so i cant do any further diagnostics with the phone on. And now the most i get is a Yield sign with a thermometer in it when i plug it in.
Okay, so... Idk?? This problem is starting to get over my head. What do y'all think? It seems like my options are becoming more limited and expensive.
I can try and put a big blob of solder on the top of the shielding and pull it off to check the remaining thermistors, which seems to be how people remove those things. I also have have hot air at my disposal, which is always risky with tiny things because too high airspeed might blow components away on the board and then i'll probably cry.
It could just be a connector somewhere on some flex cable? Maybe? I mean like maybe what if one of them is for reporting temperature, and water corrosion is stopping it from sending a signal through???
Im fine with doing whatever, but i just want a charged battery first so i can recover my data before i do anything that drastic. I mean, back in the day they had 4 big pads on a removable battery. You could buy a universal samsung battery charger or rig a USB cable to charge it, but I have literally no idea what to do here. Does anyone know of some specialized battery charger that will connect to these flex cables?? That would be a gigantic help right now. Or if i knew where to get a Z Fold 3 just to pop it open and charge my battery with? Or maybe just sit there for 2 hours holding two wires to the positive and negative pins?!??!?? I dont know. Someone throw ideas at me, please!
Might be worth buying a bench power supply and either injecting voltage through the phone or connecting it to the cells to trickle charge them back up? Im not an expert it these just throwing ideas

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