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Am I Nuts?

So... I really love Goog, and I DO like Android, but lately I've had this twitching to switch to a Pre Plus. There's things that I just like better about it.
Pros:
1) It's got a "prettier" UI
2) Multitasking ROCKS on the Pre.... (I feel it's better then Android)
3) Touchstone Charging ( DEF! Nice)
4) It seems a lot more polished in general
Cons:
1) Palm's current financial situation
2) Lack of Apps
What should I do? I know it's been asked before, but I read those threads and still undecided.
Help?
P.S. (I know I'm asking a Baltimore fan what he's favorite team is, but please try to keep fanboyism aside?)

Palm Pre and the WebOS are very pretty. But that's about it. It is now a severely outdated phone and even with Palm Pre Plus has bad hardware specs to current phones, especially the one in your hand (the Dinc). The Dinc and android are certainly customizable phones with an App Market that is growing at a substantial rate, it wouldn't make sense to switch to a phone that simply offers looks over usability. Since HP+Palm are in quite an odd position where they don't even release any new phones as of late, I just don't see the reasonsing to switch to a Palm Pre when you already have one of the best phones on the market right now.

Palm who?
I would wait to see what HP does with the company now that they own it.

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TheWhiteBandito said:
Palm Pre and the WebOS are very pretty. But that's about it. It is now a severely outdated phone and even with Palm Pre Plus has bad hardware specs to current phones, especially the one in your hand (the Dinc). The Dinc and android are certainly customizable phones with an App Market that is growing at a substantial rate, it wouldn't make sense to switch to a phone that simply offers looks over usability. Since HP+Palm are in quite an odd position where they don't even release any new phones as of late, I just don't see the reasonsing to switch to a Palm Pre when you already have one of the best phones on the market right now.
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The thing is, I already know all this (not offense to you at all) but the DINC does not have a cradle (I kid you not I have a LEGO cradle I made), so no easy charging, and the notifications in WebOS KILL androids which lets be honest are a very important part of a mobile system... I really wish multitasking was more intuitive, and finally, I hate having to use two different programs for email (corp and personal). These are really important things for me. If I could get all this in Android, it wouldn't be even a question, but I can't find apps or hacks to accomplish this. Been searching for a while now. I'm PRAYING that Gingerbread fixes all this

Well, ask yourself this.
Is going back to slower, older hardware and arguably lesser built phone worth it?
Can you honestly say that the Pre would make you that much more efficient, or with the CPU it has, get the job done any faster/easier?
Does it have the apps you would want, or are they available?
If HP pulls the plug, are you going to regret your decision?
Is there any app for Android that might make things easier for you to multitask?
TaskOS perhaps?
This is the stuff I would ponder before making the jump.

Mehhh, I'm not a fan of the palm devices at all. All they're doing is collecting dust at the Verizon store I work at.
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You are nuts. Android is so much better than palm. their are apps like quick desk and power control to help you get a better multitasking experience. You know android is moving up and palm is going down. by next year, android will dominate the smartphone industry and have twice as many apps. If you switch to Palm you will be sorry.

dreamersipaq said:
(I feel it's better then Android)
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I'm thinking that questioning the ability of Android vs Palm is a symptom of an underlying problem...
Sent by the Grammar Police from my ADR6300 using the XDA App.

In a word, yes.

We agree: you're nuts.

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The thing is, I already know all this (not offense to you at all) but the DINC does not have a cradle (I kid you not I have a LEGO cradle I made), so no easy charging, and the notifications in WebOS KILL androids which lets be honest are a very important part of a mobile system... I really wish multitasking was more intuitive, and finally, I hate having to use two different programs for email (corp and personal). These are really important things for me. If I could get all this in Android, it wouldn't be even a question, but I can't find apps or hacks to accomplish this. Been searching for a while now. I'm PRAYING that Gingerbread fixes all this
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I'm pretty sure that I hated the notification system when I tried my friend's Pre. The notification system on Android is MUCH better in my opinion. Multitasking in Android also couldn't be easier...all you do is hold the home button and you see your running applications. Also, if you don't want to use two different programs for email, don't! Just turn off Gmail syncing and setup Gmail in HTC Mail, it works fine!

OP, I'm going to be in the minority here but as a former Palm Pre (Sprint) owner, I'll tell you what I liked and disliked most about it.
pro's
-beautiful display, the UI is stunning
-itunes sync (at the time it was the only non-apple device to offer this)
-webOS sync to computer was easy
cons
-got the "oreo" effect after using the phone for 2 weeks, hardware wasn't sturdy
-battery life was treacherous, extended batteries made the phone look like a mix between a penguin and a stone (a stoned penguin )
-while multitasking was efficient, it lacked the on board ram to really do alot at once. The Verizon version doubles the onboard ram and storage.
-the sprint version didn't offer an sd card slot, I'm not sure if the VZW does
I turned my pre in for a HTC Hero (a sprint eris basically) and enjoyed the Hero alot more. Then I dropped Sprint and got the Moto Droid, and now the Dinc.
For a polished product, android even 1.5, pwnd webOS. webOS offered a viable alternative to android, and at least it's not Microsoft.

Berzerker7 said:
Multitasking in Android also couldn't be easier...all you do is hold the home button and you see your running applications.
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This could be better in Android if they let you scroll through more than just the last 8 programs (or whatever it is in 2.2 now). How hard could it be? You'd hit home, and swipe sideways to see more icons. At least they should give us the option of never having somethings show up in this quick launch menu. I hate holding down the home menu and seeing settings, testing, etc.
The Pre does a bit better job with card view, but overall the phone is pretty slow and the screen is too small for my taste.

It is really sad that you couldn't make this decision on your own. I bet your significant other dreads trying to find a restaurant when you go out. It's really a very easy decision, unless you have like a gadget hoarding problem or something. I'd go back to my eris before I'd get a palm device.

Contemplating switching from iPhone to Lumia 900...

I've been on iOS for years. Ever since my first Jailbreak, unlock, and IPA modding experiences I have loved iDevices. I had Windows mobile in the past and couldn't stand it. After reading about people praising the new Windows phone I wonder what people who have experienced both OS's think. I'm deployed right now but read some articles in my free time about the Lumia 900 and thought that maybe it would be a good time to give Windows another shot when I get home.
So if you have a lot of experience with both OS's which do you prefer? I'm not a fan boy of iOS by any means, it's just what I'm used to after so long.
I realize this post is based a bit more on the OS but that's really what will make or break my decision on purchasing the Lumia 900.

well i use an ipad running ios5 and samsung focus. I personally prefer the interface and like the "metro" style for apps over ios. ios is simple but i think it is "stupid" easy interface while windows phone is simple but not "stupid easy". The os seems more dynamic as is the xbox interface is nice. One thing i like is i can choose themes, which are a colors you can choose and most apps and everyone will become that color. I think that is a neat feature. So i say get the nokia lumia 900 as it is one of the only phones that matches the iphones build quality, design and ease of use(all windows phones). With over 65k apps and counting i dont think there is much of an app problem.

I agree, iOS is about as user friendly as an operating system can get. It never fails to amaze me when someone asks me to help them use a feature on their iPhone or look at my phone and ask how I did whatever it is that caught their attention.
Windows mobile, in the past, just did not flow well and from the demos I've seen on recent phones they've taken care of that.
How well do the Lumias hold up with multiple apps running in the background?

Best Bomb Tech said:
I agree, iOS is about as user friendly as an operating system can get. It never fails to amaze me when someone asks me to help them use a feature on their iPhone or look at my phone and ask how I did whatever it is that caught their attention.
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Bull****. Thats what you could sayfor iOS before WP7 came out. And now we can say it for WP7, until something (new)better comes out.
Saying that OS is made the best way possible is stupid and short sighted.
Best Bomb Tech said:
Windows mobile, in the past, just did not flow well and from the demos I've seen on recent phones they've taken care of that.
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Bull****. Talking like WM and WP is the same thing, just fixed, is like saying that OSX is just fixed Ubuntu.
Best Bomb Tech said:
How well do the Lumias hold up with multiple apps running in the background?
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Like any other modern phone OS; they don't.
Windows Phone supports background tasks like push mail, music, social networking etc. Applications are stopped when pushed to the background but they resume in a second or more - depends on the app.

Windows phone 7 disappoints me in these ways.
1. I feel confined. All my apps are not available.
2. multitasking fail(s). Apps close when put in the background. e.g. If you are navigating using Nokia's Drive app, and then check your email - the drive app closes and you lose your navigation.
3. home screen customization. not AS BAD as iOS, but you still are limited in what you can see / do from the homescreen. Live tiles are great, but the whole thing pales in comparison to what you can do with android.
Overall, I love the smoothness, intuitiveness, the look and feel, and especially the hardware of the lumia 800 (900 is likely to be the same), but I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth after using it for a day.
if you are content with using iOS, you may find WP7 to be a very nice change. Coming from Android, I get tired of not being able to control and customize everything my phone does. Just my 2 cents! =)

It handles the backgrounds task just fine, it is just some apps dont suport multitasking ans you have to wait for them to reload but that is it. Also a large majority of apps are mango apps.

lovenokia said:
It handles the backgrounds task just fine, it is just some apps dont suport multitasking ans you have to wait for them to reload but that is it. Also a large majority of apps are mango apps.
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Yeah I think a lot of people don't understand that it is the app which needs to behave correctly in the new fake-multitasking environment. It's not M$'s fault that some apps still haven't implemented it properly.

Unicode Support
Does this version of Windows mobile with Nokia Lumia (I presume it is Windows Mango) support Unicode fonts... I am already fed up with seeing boxes for my Tamil language..

i am not sure

foxfire235 said:
Windows phone 7 disappoints me in these ways.
1. I feel confined. All my apps are not available.
2. multitasking fail(s). Apps close when put in the background. e.g. If you are navigating using Nokia's Drive app, and then check your email - the drive app closes and you lose your navigation.
3. home screen customization. not AS BAD as iOS, but you still are limited in what you can see / do from the homescreen. Live tiles are great, but the whole thing pales in comparison to what you can do with android.
Overall, I love the smoothness, intuitiveness, the look and feel, and especially the hardware of the lumia 800 (900 is likely to be the same), but I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth after using it for a day.
if you are content with using iOS, you may find WP7 to be a very nice change. Coming from Android, I get tired of not being able to control and customize everything my phone does. Just my 2 cents! =)
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I've just spent the better part of 2 years with Android. Though I've also owned the venue pro and hd7, my primary phone was android. I've recently come back to windows phone. I have the lumia 710, waiting for the 900 release. Though I to get the confined feeling, what helps me get by is the windows phone just works. My last 3 androids were plagued by data connection and wifi issues. Rooting and custom rooms introduced their own issues. No matter what anyone said s, there are stability issues when rooting and Modding. Period! My current Droid is the bionic. In all its dual core glory, side by side with the 710, my little low end, cheap ass T-Mobile phone works like a beast beside the bionic. Ive given up my hacking and slashing days, for now. I think the 900 will be just fine.

alodar1 said:
Though I to get the confined feeling, what helps me get by is the windows phone just works. My last 3 androids were plagued by data connection and wifi issues.
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I was just thinking about this this morning, about how I am looking forward to trying a windows phone, and guessing that it probably "just works".
Though I will say, I am trying an android custom ROM right now called "Ligux" - it was developed by Chinese... it has the most reliable wireless connections - Wifi/mobile/even bluetooth - than any other ROM I've tried. It's done right.

jettrue said:
I was just thinking about this this morning, about how I am looking forward to trying a windows phone, and guessing that it probably "just works".
Though I will say, I am trying an android custom ROM right now called "Ligux" - it was developed by Chinese... it has the most reliable wireless connections - Wifi/mobile/even bluetooth - than any other ROM I've tried. It's done right.
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I doubt anyone can say, "it just works", and be able to say its a true statement. All electronics have issues in some way or form. From iPhone antenna gate, to data connections dropping, these forums are filled with issues people come across, in their particular world.
Custom roms are something else. Why custom roms? I suspect someone wanted to see just what open source could do, or rather, what one could do with open source. As problems cropped up, these 'cooks' started to see if they could fix something. And so on. I think now we're at a stage where its, look what I did. Custom rooms don't always mean better. In fact they usually aren't. But some, demonstrate what can be done...and its great to watch and play with. I walked into at&t this morning to pay a bill. It was galaxy note day. Its 5.1" of where will I put it. Its great to look at, but..I can't use it. There is no pocket stuffing this thing. He proceeded to tell me about android. I pulled out my bionic and talked with him. Then I pulled out my 710 and showed him a good alternative.
I'm giving up my bionic for the 900, if, it feels great in my hand. I know there are cool things the bionic can do. There are cool things the 900 can do too. I think the best thing to realize is, find those things you don't like as quickly as possible, and decide if you can live with them. If you can't, send them back. If you can, then, cool. Don't buy any phone based on a future patch, ability to jailbreak or root, or any app that might come out 'soon'. Buy the phone based on what you see and feel in your hand, right now. Take it home to try it out...that's $35 for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, its 2 yrs or $350 to fix the mistake...
The 710 has shown me that nokia, even a low end nokia, with mango, can hang with some of the big boys. My friends at Microsoft tell me, what's on the horizon is even better. I can't wait.

When you go from iphone to Lumia you will lose your proprietary data connection. To some this is not an issue but to others it actually limits the ability of your phone.
You won't be walking in to a retail store and buying "the next coolest dock/speaker" as your phone has no such connector, is limited in design and highly limited in buyers.
I am on WP but everytime I see a new JBL speaker or some cool dock that works on the iphone I get bummed.
Today in the Nokia MWC they showed off their phone with ala a top data connection. So a nice desktop dock means I have to turn the phone upside down or connect some damn wire instead of just clicking in.
TEH LAME

Thresher said:
When you go from iphone to Lumia you will lose your proprietary data connection. To some this is not an issue but to others it actually limits the ability of your phone.
You won't be walking in to a retail store and buying "the next coolest dock/speaker" as your phone has no such connector, is limited in design and highly limited in buyers.
I am on WP but everytime I see a new JBL speaker or some cool dock that works on the iphone I get bummed.
Today in the Nokia MWC they showed off their phone with ala a top data connection. So a nice desktop dock means I have to turn the phone upside down or connect some damn wire instead of just clicking in.
TEH LAME
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Yeah, true. But how many docks or speakers do you connect to during any day? For me, I connect to power and but during commute to the office. Then nothing until the ride home. Just don't have the opportunity to plug in much during a day.
But good thing to think about...

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Yeah, true. But how many docks or speakers do you connect to during any day? For me, I connect to power and but during commute to the office. Then nothing until the ride home. Just don't have the opportunity to plug in much during a day.
But good thing to think about...
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I get in and out of my car a lot in a day and the phone goes with me. Two plug ins every time and it isn't just a 'click n go'. Cry for me!

I love WP7, it's simply beautiful and works as you expect. Tried iOS, Android 4.0 and did not like them, used because I had to.
My only complain is the lack of separatre volume control for the music/system, which I hope is coming with Tango update.

EgoMaximus said:
I love WP7, it's simply beautiful and works as you expect. Tried iOS, Android 4.0 and did not like them, used because I had to.
My only complain is the lack of separatre volume control for the music/system, which I hope is coming with Tango update.
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Don't count on that for Tango. Tango appears to be a side way update for a different hardware set. Should not consider it as any type of upgrade or update for Mango. Though there will be bug fixes introduced first in Tango, before they get to Mango, ie, the MMS bug fix has already been announced as a Tango first release, before it hits others, I would not be looking at Tango to introduce new features on existing and new NON Tango hardware. For medium to Hi End hardware, the next great leap, I think, will be Apollo and beyond.

My thoughts on switching from iOS/3GS to Android/HOX.

Hey xda,
So my last phone was a iPhone 3GS (16GB) that I used from October 2009 - April 2012. The phone did darn well and I've never had a phone that I've used that long, but again I never had a phone that expensive either before the 3GS. So iOS got damn boring, the phone got sluggish and there was something wrong with the sim card tray and the wifi hence I decided to pick up an Android phone which happens to be the HOX.
I've created this thread just to share my opinion on how its going on for me so far, how different it is using Android and the HOX. Keep in mind I am comparing a roughly 3 year old phone with the latest iOS to the HOX.
Honestly there isn't much I miss from iOS, maybe the ability to add more than 10 alarms(out of the box not talking about other apps), but thats all I can think of really. Maybe installous for you know what..
Android is just better than iOS in loads of ways, I'll list a few that strike me now and a few things I miss:
1)Setting a Custom Ringtone
This is a total pain in the ass in iOS. I would rather jailbreak my phone and get ringtones from cydia than make the mp3 I have a ringtone and connect a cable to phone and convert that cut mp3 to a ringtone file. Nonsense.
On the HOX I was able to trim a mp3 I had and make it a ringtone right off the phone, so convenient that is.
2)iTunes
I hate iTunes. I hate making my PC connect to my phone via iTunes and the whole sync bs that I've to go through. I like being able to copy paste songs, images and whatever I have than do all the crap required for an iPhone. I would use iTunes as a music player for my PC but thats about it, I hated dealing with it for my iPhone.
I know lots of people who "can't live" without iTunes, but I aint one of them. The best feature I like about iTunes is probably you installing a iTunes remote app to your iPhone and controlling your PC music off your phone via wifi, thats the best thing maybe.
Android is weird in a way though, I don't know if its now or it has always been this way but getting apps to your phone only via wifi? What if you don't have wifi? Play Store doesn't give me an option to download the app to my computer. iTunes and App store is better that way maybe.
3)Contacts
iCloud or whatever its called came to the iOS much much later than Android had their Google Contacts. Thats just too convenient. Besides who doesn't have a gmail account these days? And all you have to do to get your settings and contacts back is add your google account. Thats just too convenient. Android is a pure winner that way imo.
One thing I hate though is the really crap quality photos that get synced to Google Contacts and sometimes how Contacts isn't smart enough to link contacts properly.
Eg:I have [email protected] in my Gmail and Abc from my contacts. It will show up as [email protected] instead of Abc
4)Play Store
I mentioned not liking the fact I can't get an app on my pc and then transfer it to my phone, but one thing that I like about the play store is being able to start/queue app downloads on my phone without even touching it.
5)Lockscreen
Lockscreen for Android is just more productive. iOS added that camera shortcut recently. I think its sense, but its damn cool to be able to access any four apps I want directly from the lockscreen.
6)Alarms
I need loads of alarms to wake up, and iOS allowed me to put a lot of them. I used to have 30-40 a day. Sense/Android does not allow more than 10 out of the box.
7)Widgets
Its nice to have widgets rather than a whole bunch of apps to scroll through.
8)Music
I could access iPod or music in iOS just by double tapping the home-screen button twice. There's no such thing possible on the HOX.
9)Airplane Mode
Switching to Airplane mode was faster on iOS than Android. But thats something I can live with xD.
10)Hotspot
Creating a hotspot was easy for iPhone 4 or 4S but wasn't possible on the 3GS unless you got an app from cydia called myWI. Thats just ridiculous imo. Setting a iOS restraint on a older device.
11)Keyboard
Even though the screen of the HOX is huge compared to the 3GS, the iOS keyboard has a bigger spacebar to tap on. With the stock keyboard on the HOX I kept missing space and hitting '.'.
But then again Android you can choose amongst so many keyboards without any hassle. I used swiftkey and now I'm using swype, both are awesome imo.
12)Customization
There’s lots of customization possible on Android, with or without rooting.
Things I miss about the 3GS:
1)Silent Button
This was just awesome imo, every "phone" should have this.
2)Battery
It did give me much more battery life than the HOX smaller screen or not.
3)Top-notch Hardware?
I used, fiddled and played with the Silent button on the iPhone a lot for around 800 days and it was still perfect. The lock button was good too.
The home button wasn't responsive after a year or so but still very usable towards the end. The sim card tray was cheap and messed up towards the end.
But I dropped it a LOT of times and even in small puddles of water I remember and it survived all that.
The HOX on the other hand, has this weird buzz/noise after a haptic feedback response. There's a rattling sound if I shake the phone. One corner near the capacitative panel was creaking in the beginning, seems fixed or maybe I don't notice it anymore. I dropped the HOX once and there's this tiny crack in the corner. I really hope it lasts me at least 2 years.
4)Heating or rather Cooling
I played a lot of games on my iPhone, it did get a little heated after gaming for 30 minutes straight or so but thats it.
HOX gets so heated after using a browser on 2G for 20 minutes? Also gets heated while gaming. Gets heated so much that it doesn't charge, thats just a complete annoyance to me.
Besides I have to choose between charging my phone and using my phone, thats damn stupid. I've read that the 2.05 leak fixes this, I'm on ARHD 7.1.0 which is based on the leak and I've still faced the heating problems.
I know its packing a quad-core in such a slim device there isn't much space for cooling but then again if heating problems like those are to be faced then this chip Tegra3 doesn't belong in a phone.
5)Speaker
The speaker on the 3GS was placed at the bottom edge whereas the One X has it’s speaker placed at the back which is quite easy to block. The speaker placement and quality of the 3GS was undoubtedly better.
6)Charging Speed
3GS charged faster than the HOX. I’ve read the 2.05 base it charges faster, have yet to see that.
7)Software Support from Manufacturer
3GS is probably the only iPhone that will get 3 updates it came with 3 and got updates to 4 and 5 and is getting a update to 6 too. I doubt I’ll see that much from HTC.
What I like about the HOX:
It would have been easy to figure from my above statements that I like Android better than iOS, now its time to list a few things that I like about the HOX.
1)Camera
I love the Camera on this thing, I’m not a pro photographer or anything but the camera on this is really awesome. And it has a flash, my 3GS didn’t have a flash but my phones before the 3GS did so that was pretty odd.
2)The Screen
The Screen is just gorgeous on this. Its a pleasure to watch videos or look at pictures or use the internet. Most impressive.
3)Body
I like the matte body of the HOX and how solid it feels. The only gripe regarding the body would be the protruding camera lens that is easy to scratch. I haven’t put on a screen protector yet as I’ve read most of them don’t cover the screen completely because of the curved edges.
4)micro-USB port
This is a really really handy thing because not everyone I hang out with will have a iPhone charger, but most of the phones have a micro-USB port so theres a good change of finding that at a friend or relative’s place.
5)Quad-Core Fast
I love the speed of the HOX, I doubt I will ever feel it becoming sluggish. I plan to underclock/undervolt it to get more battery life once I figure out how.
6)32GB
26GB but yea, its a huge plus to have that much data storage.
7)Dev and Community Support
It feels really really good to have so much support from this awesome xda community and developers. One of the really good parts of getting this phone is the awesome support and multitude of custom roms, tweaks and mods available.
8)THD Games
I’m not a fan of games on touch screen phones anymore unless its an arcade game, but THD powered games are a plus no doubt, just doesn’t matter to me.
Things I wish are fixed with the HOX would be heating problems and better battery life. I’m going to try undervolting to get more battery life once I figure out how. But thats it. I’ve been taking good care of the phone, have ordered a Rock TPU case for it.
Thats it guys. Thank you XDA for all the support and more that will come.

That was a nice objective comparison, thanks.
With regards to updates, Apple have produced 5 phones in 5 years, it's easier for them to produce updates for longer. I think HTC are going to be producing fewer phones now, maybe that will help.
You'll find the community here will create updates for a while, I think the One X is going to have a large, active community for quite some time.
Personally I don't have the overheating problems that some do, been using the phone for an hour and it's barely warmer than the back of my hand.

Hi
Just a couple of things I picked up on:
You can add a widget (there a several of them supplied by HTC which are just buttons essentially) which will allow to switch flight mode with one button press. There is also a profile button which will lot you switch to silent or vibrate mode easily as well.
Regards
Phil

You're right, it is easier for Apple to get out updates more than HTC or others but it is something I'll miss i.e Official Support
But then we have awesome devs here so all is good

PhilipL said:
Hi
Just a couple of things I picked up on:
You can add a widget (there a several of them supplied by HTC which are just buttons essentially) which will allow to switch flight mode with one button press. There is also a profile button which will lot you switch to silent or vibrate mode easily as well.
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Phil
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Hey Phil,
I know about those widgets, I'm using them. Still switching to Airplane mode is slower i.e the time it takes for all connections to go off is slower vs airplane mode on iOS (or atleast what iOS shows)
And regarding the widget for silent mode, I'm using that too . Just nothing beats a hardware button to put your phone on silent mode.

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Hey Phil,
I know about those widgets, I'm using them. Still switching to Airplane mode is slower i.e the time it takes for all connections to go off is slower vs airplane mode on iOS (or atleast what iOS shows)
And regarding the widget for silent mode, I'm using that too . Just nothing beats a hardware button to put your phone on silent mode.
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We can using the volume keys I know it's not the same but technically near enough, it is good though I've got the same button on the iPad and although useless for that device pretty cool you can switch quickly.
But plenty of widgets available to achieve the desired result.
Good write up on both OS's. Both have their pros and cons and it's good to see no fanboy bashing of either device.
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thank you for the senseful and nag free comments

Thanks for that honest and fair report.
Just picking up on your comment regarding Google compressing image backups.
I recommend getting dropbox that will automatically backup your photos without any compression or alteration whatsoever.
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You can customise till you drop on Android devices. For example with a custom rom like viperX, you can customise the buttons for example long press home and you can assign an action or even launch an app, or just use apex launcher or nova launcher no root needed for these and you can apply gestures, so swiping up can open the music app. I find these gestures very useful for my commonly used actions, I've got swipe down to show me battery, swipe up to open my music, etc and you can even put gestures on the dock icons.
That will give you back some functionality you had with the double tap home button on iOS.
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I think if a person is kind of more than an casual user - want to study how to root, install custom staff..., would love android more. If he just picks a phone from store, then use it, better to take iphone

Thank guys. I was going for a unbiased opinion.
@nikzdhd
Yea the silent button works as a orientation lock for the iPad so its damn handy.
I'll try to get some gestures running soon, there was a similar thing on iOS after JBing it, called Activator. My Android Journey has just begun haha xD
@hamdir
Anything about the One X has to be 'sense'ful imo
I'm not the type to bash on this device without any reason. I love the One X. Despite the haptic feedback noise and stuck pixel I'm not that keen on getting it exchanged.
@stuart001
Dropbox will backup my pics with the same quality, that I've seen but I was talking about how the Photos I snapped with my phone and assigned to a contact get converted or compressed when synced with Google Contacts.
@1phuong
You're right about picking an iPhone if you're not going to mess around with it and want out of the box functionality. Thats why I even recommend iPhone over Android phones to people who aren't that keen on f***ing around with custom roms and kernels to get more out of their device .i.e if they're not geeks
However there are still loads of people who are geeks but go for iPhones either because of their fanboyism or their ignorance to how cool Android is.
Beyond a point there isn't much you can do in iOS but Android is just awesome. There's loads more of messing around I have yet to do. Undervolting is one of them xD.

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Thank guys. I was going for a unbiased opinion.
@nikzdhd
Yea the silent button works as a orientation lock for the iPad so its damn handy.
I'll try to get some gestures running soon, there was a similar thing on iOS after JBing it, called Activator. My Android Journey has just begun haha xD
@hamdir
Anything about the One X has to be 'sense'ful imo
I'm not the type to bash on this device without any reason. I love the One X. Despite the haptic feedback noise and stuck pixel I'm not that keen on getting it exchanged.
@stuart001
Dropbox will backup my pics with the same quality, that I've seen but I was talking about how the Photos I snapped with my phone and assigned to a contact get converted or compressed when synced with Google Contacts.
@1phuong
You're right about picking an iPhone if you're not going to mess around with it and want out of the box functionality. Thats why I even recommend iPhone over Android phones to people who aren't that keen on f***ing around with custom roms and kernels to get more out of their device .i.e if they're not geeks
However there are still loads of people who are geeks but go for iPhones either because of their fanboyism or their ignorance to how cool Android is.
Beyond a point there isn't much you can do in iOS but Android is just awesome. There's loads more of messing around I have yet to do. Undervolting is one of them xD.
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really awesome given that you dont even use this device for its gaming power even!
i always have trouble with iOS people and that is they fail to see the bright side and just nag about the lack or imperfections of the things they loved the most on iOS
and i tell them if you want it exactly like iOS why did u even switch..

There is a reason behind not being able to download an app to your pc and then sync it to your phone. The compatibility filtering is done by the play store, so if you have one phone with hw keyboard and one without hw keyboard you'll be able to install an app which requires hw keyboard (or specific screen size, or whatever) on both phones regardless of their compatibility. If you have filtering on the pc, then you'll have to have an Android iTunes equivalent and noone wants that, right ?
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hamdir said:
really awesome given that you dont even use this device for its gaming power even!
i always have trouble with iOS people and that is they fail to see the bright side and just nag about the lack or imperfections of the things they loved the most on iOS
and i tell them if you want it exactly like iOS why did u even switch..
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Well the main problem with most 'iOS people' lol xD is that they're the type to believe that Apple cannot make a mistake whatsoever and "It is the best". Wrong that attitude is. Its not only iPhones, its these Apple Fanboys in general. There are these rich pricks who who'll go get a 15" MacBook Pro to do what? Surf the web, make word docs and ppts max.
On the other hand if a person into video/graphics editing comes and asks me if an MBP is good, I give them a go ahead because of the kickass softwares that OSX has for them such as FCP etc.
Coming back to iDevices, 4S was horrible upgrade. Old design with a new camera, processor and a beta voice assistant, no thanks.
They're running out of innovations imo. They shoved a retina display for their new iPad and even the MacBooks. Wtf really? I had no problem whatsoever with the iPad 2 display(used a friends iPad 2 quite a bit). It was gorgeous imo, they didn't need to make it retina. Same goes for the MBP, didn't have a problem with that display either. Maybe its the lack of Steve Jobs but Apple has failed to impress me lately. iOS6 doesn't seem that great to me.
HTC really upped them by coming out with this beautiful design that is the One x . They should have put prettier packaging though xP

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There is a reason behind not being able to download an app to your pc and then sync it to your phone. The compatibility filtering is done by the play store, so if you have one phone with hw keyboard and one without hw keyboard you'll be able to install an app which requires hw keyboard (or specific screen size, or whatever) on both phones regardless of their compatibility. If you have filtering on the pc, then you'll have to have an Android iTunes equivalent and noone wants that, right ?
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That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. But they still should give an option to custom filter out a .apk from the online play store maybe?
I'll tell you why I'm stressing on this. I wanted to download this game which was around 500mb in size and I didn't have wifi then, all I had was a 2G plan on my phone and access to internet via ethernet. Downloading off 2G would have taken ages and 3G consumption would have set me back by quite some money. It made sense to get the .apk from the comp and then transfer it but I couldn't.

You could have always used internet pass through?
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death__machine said:
That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. But they still should give an option to custom filter out a .apk from the online play store maybe?
I'll tell you why I'm stressing on this. I wanted to download this game which was around 500mb in size and I didn't have wifi then, all I had was a 2G plan on my phone and access to internet via ethernet. Downloading off 2G would have taken ages and 3G consumption would have set me back by quite some money. It made sense to get the .apk from the comp and then transfer it but I couldn't.
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No app will ever be 500 MB What you need to do is download that app (around 10-15 MB) and it will download data that goes into SDcard. You can download that data from PC too if you know what to search

death__machine said:
Well the main problem with most 'iOS people' lol xD is that they're the type to believe that Apple cannot make a mistake whatsoever and "It is the best". Wrong that attitude is. Its not only iPhones, its these Apple Fanboys in general. There are these rich pricks who who'll go get a 15" MacBook Pro to do what? Surf the web, make word docs and ppts max.
On the other hand if a person into video/graphics editing comes and asks me if an MBP is good, I give them a go ahead because of the kickass softwares that OSX has for them such as FCP etc.
Coming back to iDevices, 4S was horrible upgrade. Old design with a new camera, processor and a beta voice assistant, no thanks.
They're running out of innovations imo. They shoved a retina display for their new iPad and even the MacBooks. Wtf really? I had no problem whatsoever with the iPad 2 display(used a friends iPad 2 quite a bit). It was gorgeous imo, they didn't need to make it retina. Same goes for the MBP, didn't have a problem with that display either. Maybe its the lack of Steve Jobs but Apple has failed to impress me lately. iOS6 doesn't seem that great to me.
HTC really upped them by coming out with this beautiful design that is the One x . They should have put prettier packaging though xP
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no im a fan of all this retina push but not in the case where they fail to produce the same ipad2 game graphics on ipad3 due to the massive amount of pixels, like one reviewer said if this happens in ps/xbox land where the new machine fails to run the game of the previous gen in the same quality, it would be a disaster
everything you said about apple people is true and its really sickening and tiring, in life you have tons of choice in every consumer thing you purchase
every product has its ups and down, yet iPeople they gather in the corner all holding the exact same thing and giggle at everyone else
its insulting, spoiled and ignorant
apple products their presnesation and videos, have some sort of psychological effect or something, the elite thing
believe me i have no problem in trying iPhone 5 if it was worth it but i wouldn't simply because i hate to be part of that group and accept the monopoly Apple is aggressively pursuing, its almost like dictatorship
mac book pro, same old same old since ages now, the lack of "change" is seriously boring, and why is originality and "change" something that the critics consider in their review, a perfect game might get a bad score for not being new or original and yet in the apple land, its not an issue

@CoSaWa What do you mean by internet pass through?
@realunited123 yes the app was small, but the download that the app had to do was 500mb or so .. I tried looking for .apks, but it was too much work or maybe I didn't look in the right places.

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@CoSaWa What do you mean by internet pass through?
@realunited123 yes the app was small, but the download that the app had to do was 500mb or so .. I tried looking for .apks, but it was too much work or maybe I didn't look in the right places.
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Internet pass through : Connect your phone to PC, select internet pass through from notification bar. Lets you transfer data through PC network.

Long time iOS User Switch Experience

Coming from a iPhone 4S, Android will definitely take some time getting used. I come from highly technical background so the adjustment will come pretty easy.
First impression. I love it. Love the screen real estate, love the customization options. I used to be a big iPhone/iOS advocate, and I still believe it's a great platform (but must be jailbroken). But I couldn't stand all the patent trolling and anti-competitive nature of Apple any more so I jumped ship. So all my friends around me make fun of me for defecting. The first day I had my GN2, I had an iPhone5 owner come up to me and say "Can your phone do this." And each time he asked me, mine did it a little better than his. For instance, we compared video quality. Retina is nice and all, but watching the same Youtube clip I noticed the colors were definitely more vivid on the GN2 compared to his 5. Secondly, he was like "Well I have Siri." And I told him I had S-Voice. I showed him how S-voice allows for hotword detection so I do not have to press another button ask S-voice another question. Whereas Siri, you need to press the mic button again to ask it question. Lastly, he asked "do you have an app like find my iPhone". I showed him what AndroidLost could do. I've known people to lose their iphones and find my iphone does very little to help recover the phone. All my friend could do is see that the person was in some apartment building. What good is that? Now with androidlost I could take a pictures of the thief, record sounds, do so much more. Basically each time he came over to my office and asked me, can your phone do this, I always one uped him and he walked back to his desk disappointed. Felt great. I felt justified. lol.
And lastly, one of the biggest knocks on the GN2 is it's size and how one handed operation is difficult to impossible. But after owning the GN2 for the past couple days I realized, that I don't one hand operate my mobile devices that often. The only time I noticed the enormity of the phone was while driving. I mean if I had been one hand operating my iPhone all these years, I should notice it more often on the GN2. But it turns out the only time I noticed was while driving. To me that only tells me I two hand operated my iPhone the majority of the time except for while driving. And technically we shouldn't really be operating our mobile devices while driving anways. So I just don't bother to operate my phone while driving. Unless it's to answer a call or hang up. So the size of this phone is saving lives . One of my friends said, well one handed operations is crucial to him so that's why I went with the iPhone5. But I question how crucial it really is. I bet if he picked up a GN2, he wouldn't notice much of a difference as one handed operation rarely occurs (just my opinion).

Welcome to the family. For one-handed operation try using a FlyGrip with your new toy. That Makes it so much easier.
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I am in the same position you are in. Switched from iPhone 5 to GN2, because that phone surely grabbed my attention. Right off the bat it was very confusing indeed, being new to the android platform.
Losing facetime and iMessage really did bother me, since it made it way easy for me to communicate with friends and family or video or text when I have no cellular signal. Skype is a great replacement, but many of my friends and family members don't have it unless I specifically tell them to do so. I really hope they bring
I love the huge screen of GN2 and I really think that's the reason I like it better than my iPhone 5, but as far as image quality and color accuracy. I'm 100% sure image details are sharper on the iPhone 5 as well as colors are more accurate. The GN2 screen is a bit saturate, which would make it more vivid I guess.
As far as integration and ecosystem, the iPhone 5 fit really well with my Macbook Air I own and the flow of information from one to the other is promoted and seamless. The GN2 connects to my PC desktop and macbook air basically the same way... through google and that's fine too.
GN2 gives me a lot more information at a glance with widgets, which I definitely love more than iOS. Even if you jailbreak iOS you can't really get the same homescreen layouts you could have with the GN2.
As far as apps go, I noticed immediately that the iPhone apps are more polished and smoother than on the android fence. I noticed scroll lagging and game lags on android apps that the same apps on iOS doesn't show. It's probably because developers didn't make the ports to well.
I still don't know the limits to what the GN2 phone can do. Rooting will definitely open a whole new door that as of right now, I'm too afraid to open.
One thing is for sure, I can't tell you which phone is better than the other. As for now, I will continue to use the GN2, because its the "new" thing and new things excite me.
Hello Google Maps and goodbye Apple Maps!

doctorandrew said:
I am in the same position you are in. Switched from iPhone 5 to GN2, because that phone surely grabbed my attention. Right off the bat it was very confusing indeed, being new to the android platform.
Losing facetime and iMessage really did bother me, since it made it way easy for me to communicate with friends and family or video or text when I have no cellular signal. Skype is a great replacement, but many of my friends and family members don't have it unless I specifically tell them to do so. I really hope they bring
I love the huge screen of GN2 and I really think that's the reason I like it better than my iPhone 5, but as far as image quality and color accuracy. I'm 100% sure image details are sharper on the iPhone 5 as well as colors are more accurate. The GN2 screen is a bit saturate, which would make it more vivid I guess.
As far as integration and ecosystem, the iPhone 5 fit really well with my Macbook Air I own and the flow of information from one to the other is promoted and seamless. The GN2 connects to my PC desktop and macbook air basically the same way... through google and that's fine too.
GN2 gives me a lot more information at a glance with widgets, which I definitely love more than iOS. Even if you jailbreak iOS you can't really get the same homescreen layouts you could have with the GN2.
As far as apps go, I noticed immediately that the iPhone apps are more polished and smoother than on the android fence. I noticed scroll lagging and game lags on android apps that the same apps on iOS doesn't show. It's probably because developers didn't make the ports to well.
I still don't know the limits to what the GN2 phone can do. Rooting will definitely open a whole new door that as of right now, I'm too afraid to open.
One thing is for sure, I can't tell you which phone is better than the other. As for now, I will continue to use the GN2, because its the "new" thing and new things excite me.
Hello Google Maps and goodbye Apple Maps!
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This test finds that the GN2 has better color accuracy, you just have to change the setting from the default saturated values that Samsung uses.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57540240-85/screens-test-part-2-galaxy-note-2-vs-apple-iphone-5/

doctorandrew said:
I am in the same position you are in. Switched from iPhone 5 to GN2, because that phone surely grabbed my attention. Right off the bat it was very confusing indeed, being new to the android platform.
Losing facetime and iMessage really did bother me, since it made it way easy for me to communicate with friends and family or video or text when I have no cellular signal. Skype is a great replacement, but many of my friends and family members don't have it unless I specifically tell them to do so. I really hope they bring
I love the huge screen of GN2 and I really think that's the reason I like it better than my iPhone 5, but as far as image quality and color accuracy. I'm 100% sure image details are sharper on the iPhone 5 as well as colors are more accurate. The GN2 screen is a bit saturate, which would make it more vivid I guess.
As far as integration and ecosystem, the iPhone 5 fit really well with my Macbook Air I own and the flow of information from one to the other is promoted and seamless. The GN2 connects to my PC desktop and macbook air basically the same way... through google and that's fine too.
GN2 gives me a lot more information at a glance with widgets, which I definitely love more than iOS. Even if you jailbreak iOS you can't really get the same homescreen layouts you could have with the GN2.
As far as apps go, I noticed immediately that the iPhone apps are more polished and smoother than on the android fence. I noticed scroll lagging and game lags on android apps that the same apps on iOS doesn't show. It's probably because developers didn't make the ports to well.
I still don't know the limits to what the GN2 phone can do. Rooting will definitely open a whole new door that as of right now, I'm too afraid to open.
One thing is for sure, I can't tell you which phone is better than the other. As for now, I will continue to use the GN2, because its the "new" thing and new things excite me.
Hello Google Maps and goodbye Apple Maps!
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Losing facetime didn't bother me at all as I never used it. Also I do have an iPad so I am not completely off the Apple ecosystem. Losing iMessage did bother me a little bit. It would be nice to have delivery and read receipts. Besides that I am on an unlimited text plan, so really iMessage really was no benefit to me. Most of my friends are all about privacy and only a handful enabled read receipts, which is actually far more useful than delivery receipts anyway. So I am not really missing much.
Color accuracy. I have many friends that are in the Graphic Design field and have stressed the importance of color reproduction. So much so that a friend got me convinced that I absolutely must get an IPS or PVA panel for my computer instead of a TN. And I listened to him. I'm glad I did, but only because I like the view angles of IPS over TN. The color reproduction I really didn't care about as much. At first I didn't even know what he meant by it, but the way a friend described it was, does the color on the screen match what you see in real life. I guess that's important to people in that field, but to me a slight deviation doesn't matter to me. Just like the CNET article that Jrockttu referenced. Some may prefer the over-saturation of the standard mode and others may will like the more accurate colors of movie mode. But at least with Sammy, you have the choice.
The apple ecosystem was definitely nice. Airplay was nice. However I won't miss itunes one bit.
Apps. I had all these wonderful apps downloaded to iphone and ipads. All great. But I realized about 99% of the time I used my iPhone for a select number of functions. And almost all of it, android had as well. And did it as well as iOS and if not better than iOS. There are only 2 things so far that I miss from the Apple App store. One of them being Logmein. I actually bought Ignition when it was on sale for the iPhone. They now have a free version, which Android lacks. And I don't want to spend 29.99 for another copy of Logmein ignition on Android. I know android advocates will say Logmein is stupid, just use something else like VNC. But I absolute must have Logmein. It's convenient and I have many computers setup on it. Especially friends and family that require tech support from me from time to time. The other thing I miss is a good Streamtome or AirVideo replacement. Emit just doesn't cut it. I have yet to fool around with Plex, but I guess that may be a good alternative. But I liked the simplicity of Streamtome and all the features.
With all that said. I have no regrets making the switch and couldn't be happier. Infinitely expandable memory via microsd card support, the ability to carry multiple batteries if need be, screen size, no longer tied to itunes, no more need for converting videos, greater customization, no proprietary overprice lightning connector, and a bunch of other stuff I can't think of right now, definitely outweighs what I loss from iOS. And I do have my ipad if I really need it. But I don't see myself going back to iOS any time soon.

Glad to see you make the transition. I've converted a few iPhone users myself and once they got used to Android, they love it and thank me all the time for getting them off of the Apple bandwagon.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II (SGH-I317) on the infamous AT&T Network.

The Note 2 is my first android smartphone (came from iPhone 4/4S).
As for a facetime replacement, before I jailbroke my devices I would use Tango for video calls over 3G. Tango works well on android too and seems to have better quality video than Skype. Give it a try.
Also, I absolutely despise S-Voice. It is slow, clunky, and the voice sounds like Siri with a cold. But that's OK since we have Google Now! I downloaded an app called Home2 Shortcut, and now when I double tap the home button it launches Google Now's voice search.

UCLAKoolman said:
The Note 2 is my first android smartphone (came from iPhone 4/4S).
As for a facetime replacement, before I jailbroke my devices I would use Tango for video calls over 3G. Tango works well on android too and seems to have better quality video than Skype. Give it a try.
Also, I absolutely despise S-Voice. It is slow, clunky, and the voice sounds like Siri with a cold. But that's OK since we have Google Now! I downloaded an app called Home2 Shortcut, and now when I double tap the home button it launches Google Now's voice search.
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Long press menu for Google Now, or there is a button in the task switcher with long press home. I disabled the double tap home within S Voice. Probably the first and last time I will open S Voice, but now the home button doesn't delay as it waits to see if you are going to double press.
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Welcome to android! I am also a iphone convert...though this is my third android phone. Never looked back
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iPhone 4 -> Note 1 -> Note 2
Its not even really fair to compare them to a non-jailbroken iPhone. You can do so much on android without rooting etc compared to what you can do to an iPhone stock. The Note 2 is an easy winner everywhere. Battery life kills any iphone I used....just got 2 days on a single charge with 3.5 hours on screen time.
The big thing missed from iPhone days is Lockinfo. Yes there are sort of comparable things as far as getting the data I liked on the lockscreen in android but I loved the simplicity and layout of Lockinfo. Android smokes iPhone though on the lockscreen notification area. With Elixir 2 I can get all kinds of stuff on there....without root, custom rom jailbreaking etc.
One small thing is also location spoofer so I can trick the NBA package that I am in London so I can watch/torture myself watching Golden State Warrior games due to local blackout rules. It would be great to watch the games on my larger screen Note 2 but oh well I can deal.
BiteSMS was also solid...but they make chomp for android which is close but to me not as smooth on the lockscreen side. Most of the times it pops up but sometimes it doesnt.
Group messaging is good on iPhone but its not something that happens to me more than twice a month so pfffft.

jbeef86 said:
iPhone 4 -> Note 1 -> Note 2
Its not even really fair to compare them to a non-jailbroken iPhone. You can do so much on android without rooting etc compared to what you can do to an iPhone stock. The Note 2 is an easy winner everywhere. Battery life kills any iphone I used....just got 2 days on a single charge with 3.5 hours on screen time.
The big thing missed from iPhone days is Lockinfo. Yes there are sort of comparable things as far as getting the data I liked on the lockscreen in android but I loved the simplicity and layout of Lockinfo. Android smokes iPhone though on the lockscreen notification area. With Elixir 2 I can get all kinds of stuff on there....without root, custom rom jailbreaking etc.
One small thing is also location spoofer so I can trick the NBA package that I am in London so I can watch/torture myself watching Golden State Warrior games due to local blackout rules. It would be great to watch the games on my larger screen Note 2 but oh well I can deal.
BiteSMS was also solid...but they make chomp for android which is close but to me not as smooth on the lockscreen side. Most of the times it pops up but sometimes it doesnt.
Group messaging is good on iPhone but its not something that happens to me more than twice a month so pfffft.
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GoSMS isa kickass sms app that has more customization than you can imagine and some KILLER themes to boot. Check it out of you get a chance, it's free and fast with lots of eye candy.
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quarlow said:
Long press menu for Google Now, or there is a button in the task switcher with long press home. I disabled the double tap home within S Voice. Probably the first and last time I will open S Voice, but now the home button doesn't delay as it waits to see if you are going to double press.
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Yes I know these shortcuts however those require an additional step to make the app listen to your command. With my setup I double tap the home button and Google search is listening immediately.

quarlow said:
Long press menu for Google Now, or there is a button in the task switcher with long press home. I disabled the double tap home within S Voice. Probably the first and last time I will open S Voice, but now the home button doesn't delay as it waits to see if you are going to double press.
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Thanks for the tip, I be waiting for that.
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In short, our Note 2 can do anything and everything iCraps can, but only better, more of it, and at a fraction of the price with ten times the support community. Crapple is coasting, Samsung innovates.

I'm in the same position. My first smart phone was the 3g then moved to the 4. It was awesome but it was all I knew. With every new update I was chasing jailbreaks and it was fun. But just like what was stated I got sick of the bs lawsuits and being locked down and that giant pos itunes wanting to constantly wipe all my data. I finally made the jump and wonder what the hell took me so long. I'm so used to having to chase the jailbreak my first instinct with this was to root. So after 2 days, a ton of reading, and scared I was going to brick my new baby I did it and I will never look back. Never liked crapple but the hw was good and I was comfortable with the whole jailbreak process but am extremely happy I took the dive and glad to be here.
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One thing I miss from iphone is the spell checker and underlining of misspelled words with predictions in no matter what you were in. Not a fan of the predictions over the keyboard.
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Bodoct said:
One thing I miss from iphone is the spell checker and underlining of misspelled words with predictions in no matter what you were in. Not a fan of the predictions over the keyboard.
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Check this one out on the Play Store...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.comet.android.TypeSmart&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jb21ldC5hbmRyb2lkLlR5cGVTbWFydCJd
I'm downloading it now to see how it works...hopefully it will do as good as the reviews say...
I'm still learning this phone...and I had been using a 4s for a few months...and can honestly say this phone blows it and the I phone 5 out of the water. I have several friends and co-workers that have the 5 and have used them a-lot There really is no comparison for any of them.Sure some apps are more polished...they have to be..but...I have found most of my replacement apps to be fully functional..Everything on this phone works perfectly...and with Google Now...well...that just is another nail in the coffin for IOS if they don't do an about face and start really changing it for the better...funny thing...many apple fans don't want to...
I really get a kick out of watching peoples face when they see what this phone can do...If your really want to impress someone..down load a full 1080P movie to it and play it back for them...I-phone fanatics will do 1 of 3 things...get PO'd...either ***** or complain it's too big...or show their impressed by their jaws dropping and then say nothing or very little...Those that are dissatisfied will ask a ton of questions and want to see more...
I got to say this phone amazes me every time I open it up to use it...and that is something no Apple phone could ever do..There is no WoW factor...and the egg heads at Cupertino don't get it...Sure...the I phones can do a lot...they are safe and secure...and they generally work as promised...but Android just snuck up on them and bit them in the buttocks real hard and passed them by...
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I have one question too. I'm stuck with my iPhone 4S for now but I'm desperately trying to switch to the Note II. My biggest (and perhaps even only) concern is the camera quality. Judging from this thread it seems that the camera (at least using stock conditions) is inferior to the 4S's. However, without a direct comparison it's hard to tell. Does anyone here have any direct comparison between the two cameras?

There isn't that much of a differene between them to worry over. Both do a good job and if you need more get a real dslr for serious picture taking.
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Mac11700 said:
There isn't that much of a differene between them to worry over. Both do a good job and if you need more get a real dslr for serious picture taking.
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Problem with dedicated camera is that I know I'd never have it with me when I need it! :silly:

[Q] Went from iPhone 4 to Note 2 - Interesting feeling

After using the iPhone for the part 5+ years, I finally got tired of the same old OS. I jumped ship and went to the Galaxy Note 2, and I absolutely love it....amazing device. All my coworkers that I show it too and amazed at the display size and the overall great looks of the phone.
What I find interesting is when I look at the iPhone's tiny display, I don't know how I survived all this time with such a small display. I feel that I can never go back to a small display now that I'm used to the Galaxy Note. The iPhone display just feels way too tiny...lol. The big brillant display of the Note 2 is very good, and I can't really tell the ppi difference between the iphone 4 and Galaxy Note 2. The past wqeek has been extremely busy at work with lots of phone use (for actual calls) and I find holding the Galaxy 2 fairly comfortable...not as awkward as I thought it would be.
That being said...I do have one question....my microSD card will sometimes unmount on it's own, and the only way to recover is to physically remove and reinsert the card again. I have a Class 10 PNY 32GB card. Has anyone else had this issue. I've reformatted the card on the phone, but have not yet tried reformatting on a windows 7 computer yet, so that is my next step. Seems to happen once or twice every few days.
Thanks for any advice regard the microSD card.

mikefly562 said:
After using the iPhone for the part 5+ years, I finally got tired of the same old OS. I jumped ship and went to the Galaxy Note 2, and I absolutely love it....amazing device. All my coworkers that I show it too and amazed at the display size and the overall great looks of the phone.
What I find interesting is when I look at the iPhone's tiny display, I don't know how I survived all this time with such a small display. I feel that I can never go back to a small display now that I'm used to the Galaxy Note. The iPhone display just feels way too tiny...lol. The big brillant display of the Note 2 is very good, and I can't really tell the ppi difference between the iphone 4 and Galaxy Note 2. The past wqeek has been extremely busy at work with lots of phone use (for actual calls) and I find holding the Galaxy 2 fairly comfortable...not as awkward as I thought it would be.
That being said...I do have one question....my microSD card will sometimes unmount on it's own, and the only way to recover is to physically remove and reinsert the card again. I have a Class 10 PNY 32GB card. Has anyone else had this issue. I've reformatted the card on the phone, but have not yet tried reformatting on a windows 7 computer yet, so that is my next step. Seems to happen once or twice every few days.
Thanks for any advice regard the microSD card.
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Welcome to the other side. Regarding the sd card...I have a samsung 32gb class 10 and have had no problems with unmounting. Although I have not really had enough time with my note to notice (only a few days). Are you stock? If not what is your rom/kernel?

Welcome to Android! excellent device choice f,sure
Its more then likely a defective SD card.

xavier6303 said:
Welcome to the other side. Regarding the sd card...I have a samsung 32gb class 10 and have had no problems with unmounting. Although I have not really had enough time with my note to notice (only a few days). Are you stock? If not what is your rom/kernel?
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Yes..I'm running stock right from the AT&T store...no root and I made no changes to kernal, etc. Since I'm fairly new to Android, and I use this phone for work and personal use, I don't want to experiment with it yet, so I plan to keep it stock for a long time.
If reformatting does not work, I'll go back to Staples and return/exchange the microSD card since they have a fairly good return policy.

I was also an iOS user since iPhone4, and before switch to Note 2, I was using iphone5. I do love the Noteii's size, battery life, s-pen ... But in term of overall smoothness, I think IP5 still has the edge. I am not sure if there something I can do in NoteII to improve it.

eelnoraa said:
I was also an iOS user since iPhone4, and before switch to Note 2, I was using iphone5. I do love the Noteii's size, battery life, s-pen ... But in term of overall smoothness, I think IP5 still has the edge. I am not sure if there something I can do in NoteII to improve it.
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I hate to second guess you, but I can't think of what you could possibly be doing with your Note, that you really can see any difference between the smoothness of iOS 6 and JB. The vast majority of professional reviewers from the biggest tech sites, have all gone out of their way to say that the difference in fluidity between iOS 6 + JB is negligible and no longer a valid argument when comparing Android to Apple... at least not when comparing JB.

Theres soooo much more you can do on Android. Here is a few great apps for stock Android thats not available for stock IOS. Handcent (a texting app with tons of features), Perfect App Protector (let people/kids see your phone without worrying about them looking a your email or what ever app you choose to lock up), Keep Safe (lock up your naughty pictures), and Apex Launcher (easily customize your Home UI, makes IOS users envy with a cool looking UI).

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I hate to second guess you, but I can't think of what you could possibly be doing with your Note, that you really can see any difference between the smoothness of iOS 6 and JB. The vast majority of professional reviewers from the biggest tech sites, have all gone out of their way to say that the difference in fluidity between iOS 6 + JB is negligible and no longer a valid argument when comparing Android to Apple... at least not when comparing JB.
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Don't get me wrong. I am not complaining the overall performance of Note II. And I have no doubt it has more processing power. Regardless what the so called professional reviews say, in day to day use, the smoothness of IP5 does have edge. it is small but noticeable. Not that Note II is bad in anyway, just doesn't feel as smooth. While this doesnt mean IP5 is faster, it just mean, at least from user interface/graphic point of view, iOS optimizes it better
IP4 is my first iOS device, before that I was a Window mobile user. So I don't considered myself iOS fan. And between IP4 and IP5, I have used WindowPhone7 (HTC Titan II) for a while. I was actually quite impressed with the smoothness of WP7 but I hated how restricted it is (more so than iOS, which I am not so happy with). Note II is my first Andriod device, so far I love Andriod's flexiblity. Moving away from iTune is just priceless. But the smoothness of iOS's user interface shouldn't be desputed.

I was surprised at how quickly I got used to the size of the Note II, I laughed at my brother in law when he said he wanted the OG Note. Now when I pickup an iPhone it feels like the phone from Zoolander, a child's play thing.
I have the cheapest microSD card I could find. I believe its class 4. Had it about a year. Used it on my Galaxy S II with no issues, and still no issues on the Note II. Unless you count the glacial file transferring (planning on getting one of those 64GB sdxc cards soon). No issues mounting or unmounting. I would make sure the card slot is clean of debris, and check the card for dirty contacts. Try an eraser to clean the contacts. Do you have any other cards to try? Cameras, old phones, etc that have a card you can use to eliminate the phone. I would guess bad card before I blamed the phone. But, if other cards do it too, call AT&T and get the phone swapped.
Sent from my Note II

eelnoraa said:
Regardless what the so called professional reviews say, in day to day use, the smoothness of IP5 does have edge. it is small but noticeable. Not that Note II is bad in anyway, just doesn't feel as smooth. While this doesnt mean IP5 is faster, it just mean, at least from user interface/graphic point of view, iOS optimizes it better.
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I hope I'm not starting a religious debate here, but I had the same discussion with my coworker earlier in the week. Far be it from me to say whether iPhone is better than Android or vice versa, and I'm not going to debate with you as to which is smoother or not. I have iOS 6 on my iPod Touch, and it's really smooth, but does that help me in my day to day?
Here's my phone experience.
This is my fourth Android phone (one was borrowed) and at every change, I thought about getting the iPhone. The first time I didn't because I had just finished with 2 consecutive Blackberry Pearls. Compact QWERTY/SureType spoiled me so much I couldn't type on the iPhone. I text around 2000-3000 messages a month so I need to type. iOS' lack of 3rd party keyboard haunt me to this day, especially when I need Chinese/Japanese/Korean handwriting recognition. I think that's probably the biggest deciding factor for me, and still is.
Here are the awesome things that iOS has brought me: iTunes store, FaceTime, Siri ... Passbook? Getting smartphones to the mainstream, and pushing developers to consider the mobile platform? Apps are more or less the same except in some really niche areas. I need an app for music notation, and unfortunately, most of the usable ones are on iPad.
Here are the awesome things that my current Andriod (Samsung Note II) does for me: screenshot + annotation, CJK handwriting recognition (3rd party, alas), not turning off while I'm still reading, keeping orientation when I lie down ... window in window/popup window (being able to watch videos while reading emails), OTG usb support so I can hook up card readers, usb memory sticks and external hard drives, access to the file system, quick notetaking/hurried scribbles, offline voice to text (which was also a biggie for me).
When you press space while typing an email address in Blackberry, it knows there are now spaces in email addresses, so the first space is always the "@" symbol, and the second space is always the "." ... so "me you com" turns into "[email protected]", and I thought, WOW, Rim seriously had people sitting around going, hey. what would make things easier for people.
That's the feeling I got from the Samsung Note II.
I guess in the end, maybe I'm just too function over form. I'd rather have things that work over things that look nice. This, of course, has no bearing whatsoever as to the "iPhone 5 vs Samsung Note II" debate, because that's just my opinion. I think Apple's done a fine job, but I also think they need to innovate the pudding out of their products.
Anyways, welcome to Android, and I hope you enjoy your stay!

Hmm... how should I start...
Note 2/Android deals terribly with missed calls, texts and emails. Icon badges which are extremely useful are almost non existent or simply don't work. You have to "configure" just about EVERYTHING on this system to get it to work, where as with iOS it works... simply.... It does push as Android doesn't and its smooth as silk ON ANY APPLICATION...
Anyone tried flipboard on both? Why is it that on the iPhone its so much smoother than Android? Its the same developer with the same app and goal. There has to be an underlining from the OS that dictates or does this... How does that help me on the day to day? How good looking is your car? How does the ergonomics feel? That is how it helps.... For the first time the note 2 made it "passable" or "acceptable" the smoothness or lack of.. It still stutters even after 5 years... something the iPhone got right on day one! Anyone remember the G1?
Widgets without a capacity for push/seamless push they are pretty much useless, same thing as opening an application. If things would push correctly to your phone, android would have been so much more useful than iOS that it would have brought back Apple to the drawing board.
There are no programs like LockInfo/Intelliscreen X.
pictures MMS on Android have a play button..WTF? Even ChompSMS (makers of bitesms for iPhone) can't compare to bitesms functionality and usefulness. A quick reply on Android with Chomp will leave the badge on the icon and marked as unread, when you specifically want it read... you have to open the app to clear it. That should have worked flawlessly. If it works on the iPhone, why can't they make it work on Android... Its just coded differently and has bad coding or handling of data (whatever, I don't know).
In a general sense... iOS looks so much better... Android feels like pixels on a screen where as iPhone feels totally different... Then again... w/o a jailbreak it gets boring fast... and Android has a lot more to fiddle around.
The lack of jailbreak is the second time it has pushed me to Android... And this Big Screen is such a nice addition that I feel like I couldn't go back to the tiny i5. But then again, if a Jailbreak appeared I would be returning it...
I want to like Android... The geek in me likes it, but when simple things like notifications badges and push email don't work correctly makes me see all the huge flaws android still has...
For instance.....
I have lockinfo on my iPhone.... I go to my GOOGLE calendar.... add an Appointment.... pick up my iPhone and its RIGHT THERE... RIGHT THAT VERY SECOND that I turn on the screen... Try that SIMPLE thing with Android and let me know... that is the kind of things that should have worked flawlessly from DAY 1.
Try this... Google Now... "remember me when I get home to call my aunt." See what happens... Even spanish language works so much better on Siri than on Google... Even S-voice does a better job than google :facepalm: And the ousted Forstall... What a joke.
Updates.............. Oh god.. try getting an Android update... You need to buy a new phone (nice business from ATT and such? You mean to tell me that Google can't have the same "power" over carriers?, yeah yeah yeah... Get the nexus.. Nexus is and always will be a second class/Cheap product. LTE anyone?)
Music and iTunes... for much that I hated iTunes, the fact that I can organize stuff with one simple program, no matter the iPhone (1,3g,3gs,4,4s,5,iPads bla bla bla) is killer....
The list goes on and on...
Why am I still here? No Jailbreak for iPhone = boring iPhone and no lockscreen and tethering. And the Note 2 Screen is gorgeous..
I went to the ATT store... all androids there.. test them out... ALL OF THEM LAGGED... ALL OF THEM WITH 4.1 jelly bean... Picked up the note.. NO LAG! ok.. we can try this one out..
The S-pen is really useful and wonderful and that alone could make such a difference that would put the iPhone to shame... and I really want that to happen, but I wish that android would get its act together and made it possible to upgrade the OS and work on the simple things first... Its like if Google never ever used an iPhone.
Sorry.. I had to vent this. I wish android fixed this issues and it would become a huge progress and would destroy the iPhone... In the meantime... it will still feel like a second class product.

Sounds like you really haven't put any time into customizing your phone. All of what you are talking about is very easily achieved. And who needs factory updates when Samsung actively encourages you to get roms. Unlike apple who will crucify you for even saying the word jailbreak
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R1deTheLight said:
Sounds like you really haven't put any time into customizing your phone. All of what you are talking about is very easily achieved. And who needs factory updates when Samsung actively encourages you to get roms. Unlike apple who will crucify you for even saying the word jailbreak
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LOL he said all the android devices lagged, i doubt the optimius g lagged the gs3 or the htc one x+ lagged

Andrew149 said:
LOL he said all the android devices lagged, i doubt the optimius g lagged the gs3 or the htc one x+ lagged
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Also never base anything on the display models. Those things have weird custom display software that att makes for them. And they go through hell every day with hundreds of people ****ing with them
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I can't believe you are comparing an iphone which is JAILBROKEN to a stock Android device. Do you really think that's a fair comparison?
I loved BiteSMS on the iphone, but I was the only person I knew who had it. Why? Because it's not in the appstore! How come you don't blame Apple for not including all those awesome features you refer to in the stock firmware? The funny thing is you can't even say "there's an app for that" because none of the stuff you mentioned can be bought through legitimate means.
The iphone does a lot of things well, even when it's stock. The "features" you miss though 95% of iphone users never had or have to begin with. Your complaint list is completely unfair and I'm surprised you didn't realize that as you were typing all that out.
There are some legitimate gripes, don't get me wrong. The one that really bothers me is carrier control over devices. ATT should be slapped down as well as the rest of the carriers. Google has the power to do so and they should exercise it.

Go SMS pro is free and has the pop up in line reply for texts. I tried to break the logic for when a text is read and unread, couldn't get it to break. (No root required)
One thing HTC did good was lock screen support. I used a "productivity" lock screen that showed calendar notices on the lock screen. It also showed missed text, email, calls etc. It worked great. (No root required on Sense)
I use Nova Prime (was $0.25 not that long ago), the badges work great, and for more apps than TouchWiz launcher. (No root required)
I don't care for the voice control of Google Now. What I like is knowing traffic is bad before I leave. Other cards that give me info I will need, but don't have to ask for.
Widget locker lets you do all sorts of lock screen customization, without root.
Then there is CM/AOKP. Lock screen calendar built in, pop up text reply built in with correct logic, all sorts of customization.
When I think about my time with iPhone, the only jailbreak thing that was easier than unrooted stock android was pirating apps. (Something I don't advocate or miss). Far more apps are legitimately free on android. And with every jailbreak tweak the system became more unstable, and slow. Any iPhone upgrades to the next version of iOS was slow enough, when adding jailbreak on too of that it was unusable to me. For me jailbrake still had a big component of trial and error to find a good mix of what I want. Android is the same, you get out what you put in. It will take some work, and Googling into all hours of the night to find the right set of apps to do what you want, but you have much more power over your experience in Android. Then, with custom ROMs its even more.
All that said ... if you want an iPhone get one. Don't mistake this for "don't let the door hit you on the way out." I've been on xda for a while, and seen a lot of people come and go. Generally I have seen the people that come in saying how much android is harder to customize, and easier jailbreak was, go back to the iPhone. You only get 14 days (instead of the old 30) to make a choice that may haunt you for 18 months. Make the right one for you. Its better to be happy with your choice and device than to be stuck on a platform you don't like because others tell you its better. Android is the right choice for ME. TouchWiz is the right choice for ME. The Note II is the right device for ME. Ultimately you need to make that choice for you, its your phone, and you will be the one using it every day.
Sent from my Note ][

highlanderx said:
Hmm... how should I start...
Note 2/Android deals terribly with missed calls, texts and emails
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Sorry.. I had to vent this. I wish android fixed this issues and it would become a huge progress and would destroy the iPhone... In the meantime... it will still feel like a second class product.
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Not sure what planet you live on but I disagree with everything you state.
I am familiar with the apps/features you mention on the iPhone since I owned the iPhone, iPhone 3g, and Iphone 4s which I used extensively at work, traveling, backpacking, motorcycling, etc., etc.
Also I've been comparing my Note2 with my wife's new iPhone 5 her work purchased for her...and there really is no comparison.
Her prior phone was the BB Curve 2 and I thought she is going to be blown away as a new iphone user...I about died when she said "I'm not impressed...thought the screen would be more useable/bigger".
Apple has lost their creativity which saddens me because I actually used the original MAC in the '80s to develop manufacturing software AND I own a ton of AAPL stock.
I certainly understand and agree the iPhone may be better suited for certain types of people and obviously MANY like it...that's fine but your rant is over the top and based on old, wornout statements.
Just my opinion.

quarlow said:
Go SMS pro is free and has the pop up in line reply for texts. I tried to break the logic for when a text is read and unread, couldn't get it to break. (No root required)
One thing HTC did good was lock screen support. I used a "productivity" lock screen that showed calendar notices on the lock screen. It also showed missed text, email, calls etc. It worked great. (No root required on Sense)
I use Nova Prime (was $0.25 not that long ago), the badges work great, and for more apps than TouchWiz launcher. (No root required)
I don't care for the voice control of Google Now. What I like is knowing traffic is bad before I leave. Other cards that give me info I will need, but don't have to ask for.
Widget locker lets you do all sorts of lock screen customization, without root.
Then there is CM/AOKP. Lock screen calendar built in, pop up text reply built in with correct logic, all sorts of customization.
When I think about my time with iPhone, the only jailbreak thing that was easier than unrooted stock android was pirating apps. (Something I don't advocate or miss). Far more apps are legitimately free on android. And with every jailbreak tweak the system became more unstable, and slow. Any iPhone upgrades to the next version of iOS was slow enough, when adding jailbreak on too of that it was unusable to me. For me jailbrake still had a big component of trial and error to find a good mix of what I want. Android is the same, you get out what you put in. It will take some work, and Googling into all hours of the night to find the right set of apps to do what you want, but you have much more power over your experience in Android. Then, with custom ROMs its even more.
All that said ... if you want an iPhone get one. Don't mistake this for "don't let the door hit you on the way out." I've been on xda for a while, and seen a lot of people come and go. Generally I have seen the people that come in saying how much android is harder to customize, and easier jailbreak was, go back to the iPhone. You only get 14 days (instead of the old 30) to make a choice that may haunt you for 18 months. Make the right one for you. Its better to be happy with your choice and device than to be stuck on a platform you don't like because others tell you its better. Android is the right choice for ME. TouchWiz is the right choice for ME. The Note II is the right device for ME. Ultimately you need to make that choice for you, its your phone, and you will be the one using it every day.
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1000 times this

R1deTheLight said:
Sounds like you really haven't put any time into customizing your phone. All of what you are talking about is very easily achieved. And who needs factory updates when Samsung actively encourages you to get roms. Unlike apple who will crucify you for even saying the word jailbreak
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By all means... I wish to solve all of those issues and be happy with my Android!... Why do you think I am here?
ROMs usually do NOT have all the features unless they are based on the stock roms.. Ports like CM10 and the such will loose most of the S-pen features if not all.
I don't get why people can't get criticism from the things they like... all it will do in the future is make a better product... If you think its all mighty and perfect, there is nothing to fix... Nothing new to add... it will be stale.
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Andrew149 said:
LOL he said all the android devices lagged, i doubt the optimius g lagged the gs3 or the htc one x+ lagged
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HTC One X+ was the one that lagged the most...
S3 that comes here with the crap dragon lagged to hell
Note 2... not a single hiccup... hence why I got it... Besides I wanted the biggest one I could find... I really wanted a phablet.
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andrawer said:
Not sure what planet you live on but I disagree with everything you state.
I am familiar with the apps/features you mention on the iPhone since I owned the iPhone, iPhone 3g, and Iphone 4s which I used extensively at work, traveling, backpacking, motorcycling, etc., etc.
Also I've been comparing my Note2 with my wife's new iPhone 5 her work purchased for her...and there really is no comparison.
Her prior phone was the BB Curve 2 and I thought she is going to be blown away as a new iphone user...I about died when she said "I'm not impressed...thought the screen would be more useable/bigger".
Apple has lost their creativity which saddens me because I actually used the original MAC in the '80s to develop manufacturing software AND I own a ton of AAPL stock.
I certainly understand and agree the iPhone may be better suited for certain types of people and obviously MANY like it...that's fine but your rant is over the top and based on old, wornout statements.
Just my opinion.
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To quote Steve Jobs:
This phone is 5 years ahead of any phone in the market....
Its been 5 years and phones are catching up... but... until the simplicities aren't take care off.... You will see more iPhones on the road than Notes or S3s.
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quarlow said:
Go SMS pro is free and has the pop up in line reply for texts. I tried to break the logic for when a text is read and unread, couldn't get it to break. (No root required)
One thing HTC did good was lock screen support. I used a "productivity" lock screen that showed calendar notices on the lock screen. It also showed missed text, email, calls etc. It worked great. (No root required on Sense)
I use Nova Prime (was $0.25 not that long ago), the badges work great, and for more apps than TouchWiz launcher. (No root required)
I don't care for the voice control of Google Now. What I like is knowing traffic is bad before I leave. Other cards that give me info I will need, but don't have to ask for.
Widget locker lets you do all sorts of lock screen customization, without root.
Then there is CM/AOKP. Lock screen calendar built in, pop up text reply built in with correct logic, all sorts of customization.
When I think about my time with iPhone, the only jailbreak thing that was easier than unrooted stock android was pirating apps. (Something I don't advocate or miss). Far more apps are legitimately free on android. And with every jailbreak tweak the system became more unstable, and slow. Any iPhone upgrades to the next version of iOS was slow enough, when adding jailbreak on too of that it was unusable to me. For me jailbrake still had a big component of trial and error to find a good mix of what I want. Android is the same, you get out what you put in. It will take some work, and Googling into all hours of the night to find the right set of apps to do what you want, but you have much more power over your experience in Android. Then, with custom ROMs its even more.
All that said ... if you want an iPhone get one. Don't mistake this for "don't let the door hit you on the way out." I've been on xda for a while, and seen a lot of people come and go. Generally I have seen the people that come in saying how much android is harder to customize, and easier jailbreak was, go back to the iPhone. You only get 14 days (instead of the old 30) to make a choice that may haunt you for 18 months. Make the right one for you. Its better to be happy with your choice and device than to be stuck on a platform you don't like because others tell you its better. Android is the right choice for ME. TouchWiz is the right choice for ME. The Note II is the right device for ME. Ultimately you need to make that choice for you, its your phone, and you will be the one using it every day.
Sent from my Note ][
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Widget locker is a program and is not a lockscreen... The program disables the lockscreen and the program activates itself...
First in lower mem (not applicable here) phones it LAGS to hell... you will always see the desktop THEN widget locker. Same goes with Executive Assistant...it got to the point where it wouldn't unlock.
I haven't tried the latest ones and this was a year ago with a craprocket that I bought and I hated it. Went to the 4S when the jailbreak came out and I was a happy camper... Again.. as I have said before.. I got tired of the same thing... of the lack of new interesting things to do with a new phone... Specially without jailbreak. I do play around with the phone and this is one of the things that I like about Android.
XDA Community for android doesn't exist for any other platform...and that simply is a bonus...
Why do I want updates?
4.2 brings some good lockscreen features and I want to try those... There might be a port... but... it might not have all the functions it would have if it where stock.
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quarlow said:
Go SMS pro is free and has the pop up in line reply for texts. I tried to break the logic for when a text is read and unread, couldn't get it to break. (No root required)
One thing HTC did good was lock screen support. I used a "productivity" lock screen that showed calendar notices on the lock screen. It also showed missed text, email, calls etc. It worked great. (No root required on Sense)
I use Nova Prime (was $0.25 not that long ago), the badges work great, and for more apps than TouchWiz launcher. (No root required)
I don't care for the voice control of Google Now. What I like is knowing traffic is bad before I leave. Other cards that give me info I will need, but don't have to ask for.
Widget locker lets you do all sorts of lock screen customization, without root.
Then there is CM/AOKP. Lock screen calendar built in, pop up text reply built in with correct logic, all sorts of customization.
When I think about my time with iPhone, the only jailbreak thing that was easier than unrooted stock android was pirating apps. (Something I don't advocate or miss). Far more apps are legitimately free on android. And with every jailbreak tweak the system became more unstable, and slow. Any iPhone upgrades to the next version of iOS was slow enough, when adding jailbreak on too of that it was unusable to me. For me jailbrake still had a big component of trial and error to find a good mix of what I want. Android is the same, you get out what you put in. It will take some work, and Googling into all hours of the night to find the right set of apps to do what you want, but you have much more power over your experience in Android. Then, with custom ROMs its even more.
All that said ... if you want an iPhone get one. Don't mistake this for "don't let the door hit you on the way out." I've been on xda for a while, and seen a lot of people come and go. Generally I have seen the people that come in saying how much android is harder to customize, and easier jailbreak was, go back to the iPhone. You only get 14 days (instead of the old 30) to make a choice that may haunt you for 18 months. Make the right one for you. Its better to be happy with your choice and device than to be stuck on a platform you don't like because others tell you its better. Android is the right choice for ME. TouchWiz is the right choice for ME. The Note II is the right device for ME. Ultimately you need to make that choice for you, its your phone, and you will be the one using it every day.
Sent from my Note ][
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This is a post of don't let the door hit you on the way out...
Which is ridiculous... if you don't admit to your flaws you will not really know how to fix them...
I really dislike apple's wall garden and the tight grip they have on everything... I really find it annoying that they are suing everyone and the only way to make a real statement is not buy another product of theirs.. but if the community CAN'T take a simple critic about simplicities that DON'T work and you can argue it does... out of the box it doesn't and modded at best it partially works, we will never get the product we wish for.
If lag was never an issue, why does project butter exist and why do people welcomed the update? I am sure that if all the things that I have stated where fixed, everyone would be happier with their android.
I wanted more a 5.5" phone than an iPhone, hence why I got this one... I also wanted a fast phone that didn't lag. I got this one which is decent.
Right now I am using the Jedi Rom which is very nice and Apex Launcher which solves somewhat most of my issues with the badges... But there are still hiccups and there are still unread message counts that are read from time to time and only a reboot fixes the issue. Does anyone think that is ACCEPTABLE?
GOSMS is freaking ugly and laggy... sorry...
Fluidity was one of the things I really liked about launcher pro but that program hasn't been updated in years. Badges had huge hiccups. Badges is one of the things that once you get used to it, specially after 5 years, its hard to get unused to it.
What about visual voicemail on the STOCK Phone app? its nice to be able to deal with all your call's needs right on the phone app. No, we need to go to a separate app to just deal with voicemails...
You people should use an iPhone for a good while to see how simply it works on everyday stuff...
Don't get me started on Tap economy. Android requires too many more taps than iPhone to do just about the same thing.
All of the things that I have said... can be fixed... I had a LOT more complaints about android that were fixed with ICS and Jellybean, hence why I am back.
Things CAN be fixed and I bet they are fixing them.. but post like these is what makes their todo list bigger with newer updates.
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andrawer said:
Not sure what planet you live on but I disagree with everything you state.
I am familiar with the apps/features you mention on the iPhone since I owned the iPhone, iPhone 3g, and Iphone 4s which I used extensively at work, traveling, backpacking, motorcycling, etc., etc.
Also I've been comparing my Note2 with my wife's new iPhone 5 her work purchased for her...and there really is no comparison.
Her prior phone was the BB Curve 2 and I thought she is going to be blown away as a new iphone user...I about died when she said "I'm not impressed...thought the screen would be more useable/bigger".
Apple has lost their creativity which saddens me because I actually used the original MAC in the '80s to develop manufacturing software AND I own a ton of AAPL stock.
I certainly understand and agree the iPhone may be better suited for certain types of people and obviously MANY like it...that's fine but your rant is over the top and based on old, wornout statements.
Just my opinion.
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If you don't agree with them... prove me wrong... we are all here to debate... If I am wrong, it means that my issue can be solved... which is what I want... I am not here to just complain, its also a way of looking for solutions... but this is also a perspective on why iphone lovers hate android. Wasn't samsung mocking android owners? Isn't Samsung trying to Snitch iPhone users? This is the way... fixing stuff. If an iPhone owner comes to all this broken OS, they will really go back. I have the opportunity to fix them and I don't mind fiddling with code and decoding and coding APKs if need be. I like to do all that.

Dude, its not android users not taking criticism, youre just *****ing about things you can fix easily. Like I said, you have not spent any REAL time trying to figure things out. Besides this phone just came out. Give the dev community a minute and I guarantee things you never even knew you wanted will become a reality.