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Hey all,
First off, I love my Epic, and I will be sad to have to switch to a new carrier, but Sprint is too darn expensive, and Cincinnati Bell is offering cellphones (and a bunch of internet and landlines for our company) plus massive minutes and data for a tiny fraction of what only a few of us would pay for our personal Sprint bills... so naturally, we are moving.
Did I mention we can pick ANY phone from Cincinnati Bell's current or upcoming line-up to receive..... for FREE?
The two 4g phones they have right now are the HTC Panache and the Huawei Ascend X .
They also have a Samsung Vibrant available, which I understand is a Galaxy S phone nearly identicle to our Epic, but without the 4g or the keyboard.
Currently, I am leaning towards the HTC, from all the nice things I heard about the company's handsets in general, and moreso because I have heard zip about the Huawei and it seems a bit chinsey. ( I should add here that he gave us about 4 of the Huaweis to play around with for a bit to test out coverage and data speeds. ) The Huawei is a bit awkward to hold, as it is sharp and thin, whereas I am used to the brick of the Epic in my pocket.
What I ask of all of you is this: Do you have any suggestions on which handset I should grab from these guys? (Remember: It's being given to us, FREE) If so, why? In general, I am trying to either get as close to my Epic experience as possible, or to exceed it. I will miss the keyboard, but I am OK with loosing it.
For the record, I am rooted on my epic with CWM3 and running the latest Frozen Syndicate Mod (and LOVING it ), so ease of rooting, stability and availabilities of quality mods are certainly factors. ... I've just never heard ANYTHING about Huawei and there seems to be a bunch of different kind of info out there for the Panache (It's also call the Glacier and mytouch... I think?)
There you have it! Any suggestions would be killer.
NOTE: I do have access to the 4g Huawei right now, if anyone would like pictures or reviews of it, impressions etc, and I also have the chance soon to get my hands on literally any of the other handsets in their inventory to test out (the Panache, it seems is coming out on Friday). Hopefully I will be able to get a hand on that a bit early, and if so, I'll def. post some info. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know, and also if anyone wants me to grab a given phone for a test run to review on here, I'm more than happy to try!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Moving from sprint to cincinnati bell, I currently have a epic, whats the best phone I can get from them?
like keyboards? where are those phones. that htc look like a mytouch slide. does it have one?
Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
jbadboy2007 said:
Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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I would appreciate not being called nuts, first off.
Second: Between myself, my fiance and my mother, we have a 1500 minute shared plan + "unlimited" data and the extra 9.99 / month for my epic 4g data. We average between 325 and 400 per month.
The plan they are offering us gives us 5 4g phones, unlimited data and 3000 minutes, all for under 300 dollars.
In terms of service, I've never been a huge fan of sprint, I rarely have anything more than 2 bars of 3g coverage, and in many places less. Their 4g network in this area is abysmal, also.
In any case, I was asking about which of those phones people thought to be equivalent or superior to my current phone, not about whether I should switch. I have been continually disappointed with sprint service for years, this is just the final nail in the coffin.
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Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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Also, in taking the loaner phones around they gave us, comparing relative signal strength and speed as I drive around town, the CinBell phone is consistently the dominate force in terms of signal strength, quality and data speed.
austin420 said:
like keyboards? where are those phones. that htc look like a mytouch slide. does it have one?
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Nah, none of them have the keyboards unfortunately, thats why I'm trying to find the best phone to get given their lineup. Would you go for the HTC over the Huawei?
Get the vibrant. Its a galaxy s and it like the epic with no keyboard. And the vibrant community has a lot of roms including a stable cm7 and miui gingerbread
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The HTC page you linked states it's already on Gingerbread, the other is still Froyo. You should do your research on how often/if that phone gets upgrades. Basically find out which phone is closest to end-of-life.
To the guy who called him nuts for dropping a national carrier for a local: To each their own man. The OP found something that works for his needs. What's the issue? Roaming charges? It's an assumed cost of doing business when jumping to a local carrier.
blueoxide said:
Hey all,
First off, I love my Epic, and I will be sad to have to switch to a new carrier, but Sprint is too darn expensive, and Cincinnati Bell is offering cellphones (and a bunch of internet and landlines for our company) plus massive minutes and data for a tiny fraction of what only a few of us would pay for our personal Sprint bills... so naturally, we are moving.
Did I mention we can pick ANY phone from Cincinnati Bell's current or upcoming line-up to receive..... for FREE?
The two 4g phones they have right now are the HTC Panache and the Huawei Ascend X .
They also have a Samsung Vibrant available, which I understand is a Galaxy S phone nearly identicle to our Epic, but without the 4g or the keyboard.
Currently, I am leaning towards the HTC, from all the nice things I heard about the company's handsets in general, and moreso because I have heard zip about the Huawei and it seems a bit chinsey. ( I should add here that he gave us about 4 of the Huaweis to play around with for a bit to test out coverage and data speeds. ) The Huawei is a bit awkward to hold, as it is sharp and thin, whereas I am used to the brick of the Epic in my pocket.
What I ask of all of you is this: Do you have any suggestions on which handset I should grab from these guys? (Remember: It's being given to us, FREE) If so, why? In general, I am trying to either get as close to my Epic experience as possible, or to exceed it. I will miss the keyboard, but I am OK with loosing it.
For the record, I am rooted on my epic with CWM3 and running the latest Frozen Syndicate Mod (and LOVING it ), so ease of rooting, stability and availabilities of quality mods are certainly factors. ... I've just never heard ANYTHING about Huawei and there seems to be a bunch of different kind of info out there for the Panache (It's also call the Glacier and mytouch... I think?)
There you have it! Any suggestions would be killer.
NOTE: I do have access to the 4g Huawei right now, if anyone would like pictures or reviews of it, impressions etc, and I also have the chance soon to get my hands on literally any of the other handsets in their inventory to test out (the Panache, it seems is coming out on Friday). Hopefully I will be able to get a hand on that a bit early, and if so, I'll def. post some info. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know, and also if anyone wants me to grab a given phone for a test run to review on here, I'm more than happy to try!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Moving from sprint to cincinnati bell, I currently have a epic, whats the best phone I can get from them?
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Can i have your epic???
blueoxide said:
Nah, none of them have the keyboards unfortunately, thats why I'm trying to find the best phone to get given their lineup. Would you go for the HTC over the Huawei?
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Get the Panache, its the same phone as the Mytouch 4G without the god awful mytouch logo.
I voted for other because nothing was not an option.
I have had a great experience with Sprint and don't plan on leaving when my contract is up.
You shoulda got 3 unlimited everythings for cheaper than your shared plan duh. But if sprint in your area is not as good than that's a different matter. I've been with sprint for 8 years and they are excellent
I suppose I should also mention that along with this we are overhauling all of our business land lines, internet, dedicated internet/phone lines for security and camera etc and cinbell is offering one mega-package for us etc. The plan details are apples to oranges I'd imagine.
Screen size = Huawei (4G)
Hardware = Samsung (no 4G)
Roms = HTC (4G)
Voted "Other" because non of those options are > the Epic all around.
Looked through the phones and I would go with the Panache. It has Gingerbread, more RAM than the Ascend (768MB vs 512MB) and it has 4G, which the Vibrant does not. The Ascend concerns me a bit...it just came out, and it has Froyo on it. Who knows if and when it would get Gingerbread and a few places I see reviews for it refer to it as "low-cost" and "low-end". Not to say it doesn't have a lot of features, but that is how it is referred to (Which on the low-end of the phone market, the phone rates well) If you are getting the phones for free, I would think the HTC would be the winner for you. Cincinnati Bell looks to have good plans and good national coverage... I don't think you will be disappointed. Best of luck to you!
I would really use the loaner you have for awhile.. I myself had cincinnati bell and the signal was horrible all over the west side of town and northern ky.. I have three friends who jumped into cincy bells low rates they advertised.. And really in the end they are still paying more that the sprint bill.. But if you are on a huge corporate deal price will be cheaper.. But those friends are constantly asking me to text so and so or call someone cause they all constantly have signal issues.. So I would def check that the signal is good in the areas you most frequent. just giving some personal experience. But if the signal is there for you jump on that good deal..
Ever consider flashing to a prepaid unlimited plan?
yeah im pretty sure sprint is among the cheapest and has some of the best phones, service, and coverage. only verizon bats spint on the coverage. im am on a family plan with three phones, unlimited everything, 1400 minutes i believe, and 4g for my epic. it totals to about $120 something a month.
my dad on the other hand has verizon. he just bought the new iphone, unlimited everything, and 1400 minutes too. he pays about $75 a month. 4g for verizon is like $20 or $30 (i cant remember). thats outrageous compared to the $10 a month for 4g on sprint.
i really suggest sitting down, working out a budget, working out a reasonable phone plan to work with that budget, compare different phone services, and research phones for each. i think youll find that sprint is among the best and cheapest.
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blueoxide said:
I would appreciate not being called nuts, first off.
Second: Between myself, my fiance and my mother, we have a 1500 minute shared plan + "unlimited" data and the extra 9.99 / month for my epic 4g data. We average between 325 and 400 per month.
The plan they are offering us gives us 5 4g phones, unlimited data and 3000 minutes, all for under 300 dollars.
In terms of service, I've never been a huge fan of sprint, I rarely have anything more than 2 bars of 3g coverage, and in many places less. Their 4g network in this area is abysmal, also.
In any case, I was asking about which of those phones people thought to be equivalent or superior to my current phone, not about whether I should switch. I have been continually disappointed with sprint service for years, this is just the final nail in the coffin.
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i think u r not right about comparing minutes... remember sprint gives unlimited calls to any mobile phones... n plus i have 5 phones n pay under 200 w/ all 4g phones. that includes everything.... not saying that to convince u. but what u said is not right at all about plan... n i love sprint. their C.S is the greatest. peaceee
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my 1500 everything data plan with 3 lines, 2 premium data fees, 2 insurance fees, and an airave, with my meager corperate discount comes to 171.36 per month. i can bundle this with my time warner cable bill for more savings, since they are partners, but i prefer not to have all my eggs in one basket. id hate to get everything cut off at once if i were late. i can do with out cable, or phone. but never both at once!
first i live in kansas city (sprint headquarter's backyard). the constant switching, roaming, searching or whatever it does just makes this phone hard to use. the phone itself for calling is fine but data is becoming a deal killer here. is this indicative of sprint's network or just that this phone needs an update of sorts. my verizon 3g speeds while never stellar always stays connected and i can at least browse the web or do rhapsody both of which it seems almost impossible on this phone since i've gotten it. i, like many others here want to love this phone but this data thing is a problem.
I'm lucky I live in a good area... AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint are all pretty much on-par with one another. And I haven't experienced it yet (just a few days in here), but the back-up to Verizon is a good thing in a pinch. T-Mobile is even decent here.
Every carrier has parts of the country where it's good, and where it's bad.
That's not an issue with "data is simply unusable for this phone".
I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that your data experience would be WORSE with any other Sprint phone in fact. This phone is fast enough to swallow data and turn it around and present it to the user in whatever browser/app quickly enough to create an impression of even faster "data", in my initially-switched-to-Sprint first impression.
Sounds to ME that you have more of a problem with Sprint, in your area. Not the phone.
sadly that may be the case in which no amount of tweaking is going to help. i checked the coverage map and i live in a good to best wimax area. sigh, oh well. i'll give it another week.
Kunji said:
sadly that may be the case in which no amount of tweaking is going to help. i checked the coverage map and i live in a good to best wimax area. sigh, oh well. i'll give it another week.
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Call sprint and have them refresh your settings. If that doesn't work maybe you got a bad unit
That's why you stick with network with the better coverage in your area, not just buy the phone and expect similar results. Sometimes you just can't have both.
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Kunji said:
sadly that may be the case in which no amount of tweaking is going to help. i checked the coverage map and i live in a good to best wimax area. sigh, oh well. i'll give it another week.
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That sucks, at least SPRINT has a trial period, didn't hurt to try it out.
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Before i did anything with the phone after purchasing the phone from Sprint, I did a Profile, then PRL, then Firmware.
I didn't have any data isssues, nor do i have any what so ever, and im inside a building ( casino ) In fact, and this people block everything!
Even called Sprint and was adviced to do Profile first before PRL ect.. any reason why?
This does not seem like it is the network issue it is an issue with the phone. I live in a full coverage area and I am having issues right next to my other line which has the evo
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eyecon82 said:
This does not seem like it is the network issue it is an issue with the phone. I live in a full coverage area and I am having issues right next to my other line which has the evo
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It's most definitely the phone. My EVO performs well, and just for sh*ts and giggles, I scrounged up my old Sanyo flip phone (model PM-8200...before Sprint was with Nextel)....no issues. Even the crappy Sanyo mobile browser works well for its level.
This has been discussed in several other threads - people are having issues with dropped data and slow data. You should probably let Samsung know as they are unaware of any issues (as not enough people have contacted them). My EVO 3D got much better data - same network, same location.
You can call, email or Twitter -
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SPH-D710ZKASPR
The more people that let them know, the sooner they patch this thing and get it fixed. Posting here isn't going to get Samsung's attention as much as direct emails, calls or twitters.
I've already contacted them - they are unaware of data issues with this phone because not enough people are letting them know. If people are willing to post here it would be great if they were willing to drop an email to Samsung.
boe said:
This has been discussed in several other threads - people are having issues with dropped data and slow data. You should probably let Samsung know as they are unaware of any issues (as not enough people have contacted them). My EVO 3D got much better data - same network, same location.
You can call, email or Twitter -
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SPH-D710ZKASPR
The more people that let them know, the sooner they patch this thing and get it fixed. Posting here isn't going to get Samsung's attention as much as direct emails, calls or twitters.
I've already contacted them - they are unaware of data issues with this phone because not enough people are letting them know. If people are willing to post here it would be great if they were willing to drop an email to Samsung.
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Make sure you speak with level 2 support since level 1 is pretty much clueless
samsung is not listing this model...so i can't use the email option to let them know...strange
Kunji said:
samsung is not listing this model...so i can't use the email option to let them know...strange
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I used the drop down and selected the SPHd700- and then clarified in my email which model I have.
The modding community will come up with a fix before Samsung even admits to it. They built in sleep to conserve battery, but the data chip keeps using the snooze button instead of getting out of bed.
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Pro's for T-Mobile Galaxy S2:
Generally better data speeds
Generally cheaper plan
GSM, so can use internationally
True Android-native infrastructure tethering after root
No Loss of Service (LOS), a problem afflicting Sprint GS2
No Sound Pool bug, a problem that crashes games afflicting all Exynos GS2
NFC
Wifi calling
USB Host (USB on the go)
Noise cancellation microphone
Con's for T-Mobile Galaxy S2:
Generally less coverage around the country (especially on non-roaming prepaid plans)
Screen suffers from blotches on low-brightness
Slightly slower CPU/GPU
Worse front-facing camera
Runs hotter
Less dev support
No notification LED
Capped data that throttles after plan limits
Edit: This thread was originally about me considering switching from a Sprint GS2 to a T-Mobile GS2. I've now done so, but figured since I drew up such a comprehensive list of differences, might as well keep it around for anyone else that might be curious
read thought this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
talltexan said:
read thought this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
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Yup, I saw that, weird and disappointing. That's why I have "slightly worse screen" in my list of cons.
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GSM, so can use internationally, but only at EDGE speeds
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that's not correct
it can get 3G/4G at any GSM internationally
that's the beauty of this version of SGS2 Hercules
manekineko said:
No LOS, a problem afflicting Sprint GS2
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What is LOS? Line of Sight? Left over soup?
I just switched over from Sprint as well. Their 3G has been totally pathetic and borderline unusable for the last 6 months. My T-Mobile speeds are 10+ times faster. I don't know what the SERO plan is, but T-Mobile doesn't have free mobile to mobile calling like Sprint. They only give you free calling from T-Mobile to T-Mobile and their nights and weekends are more restrictive than Sprint.
AllGamer said:
that's not correct
it can get 3G/4G at any GSM internationally
that's the beauty of this version of SGS2 Hercules
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Wow, that is big for me. Thanks for the tip, I hadn't heard the Hercules also has the AT&T bands.
Splaktar said:
What is LOS? Line of Sight? Left over soup?
I just switched over from Sprint as well. Their 3G has been totally pathetic and borderline unusable for the last 6 months. My T-Mobile speeds are 10+ times faster. I don't know what the SERO plan is, but T-Mobile doesn't have free mobile to mobile calling like Sprint. They only give you free calling from T-Mobile to T-Mobile and their nights and weekends are more restrictive than Sprint.
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Loss of Service. It's a problem that comes from the fact that Samsung kind of sucks at making CDMA modems. Sometimes the Sprint GS2 will just lose cell service, and it won't come back until you reboot. I haven't gotten bit by it yet, but it's widespread enough that I feel it's just a matter of time.
The Sprint speeds drive me nuts. In the middle of Manhattan, I see download speeds on 3G of as low as 100kbps on Speedtest.
I'd be going to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid 5GB 100 minute plan, so I wouldn't get any nights and weekends or mobile to mobile I think. The plan's a big downgrade from the numbers I had on Sprint, but the speed improvements and lower monthly fee would balance it out for me. Plus, talking is probably the feature I use least on my phone.
manekineko said:
Loss of Service. It's a problem that comes from the fact that Samsung kind of sucks at making CDMA modems. Sometimes the Sprint GS2 will just lose cell service, and it won't come back until you reboot. I haven't gotten bit by it yet, but it's widespread enough that I feel it's just a matter of time.
The Sprint speeds drive me nuts. In the middle of Manhattan, I see download speeds on 3G of as low as 100kbps on Speedtest.
I'd be going to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid 5GB 100 minute plan, so I wouldn't get any nights and weekends or mobile to mobile I think. The plan's a big downgrade from the numbers I had on Sprint, but the speed improvements and lower monthly fee would balance it out for me. Plus, talking is probably the feature I use least on my phone.
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If your paying $79.99 for sprint tmobile has the same plan for $79.99 with contract 2 gig cab though. if you want 5 gig cap its $89.99. 10 gig cap is $99.99
All those plans have unlimted minutes and texting.
Killbynature said:
If your paying $79.99 for sprint tmobile has the same plan for $79.99 with contract 2 gig cab though. if you want 5 gig cap its $89.99. 10 gig cap is $99.99
All those plans have unlimted minutes and texting.
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I pay 49 for unlimited talk/text and 2 gigs data. Not sure about 79.
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my wife works for tmobile and ill tell you that if you live in a good area then tmobile is definitely worth it and is the best bargain out there , if you travel alot then i dont recommend them,all depends on your lifestyle, most major cities get pretty good tmobile service
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I pay 49 for unlimited talk/text and 2 gigs data. Not sure about 79.
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Classic or Value if you don't get subsidize it is much cheaper.
For me:
1. Sprint Galaxy S II phones do suffer from loss of signal. I have noticed this on both Sprint Galaxy S II phone I have. Very very annoying.
2. T-Mobile's version suffers from poor display.
3. T-Mobile's version suffers from poor front facing camera.
Maybe all of these problems can be fixed with a software update. And Samsung will take the time to make this happen. There are no assurances however.
For its part, Sprint has acknowledged the loss of signal problem and has promised a fix. T-Mobile has not yet acknowledged problems with their unit.
Walmart piggybacks off Tmobil.towers
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I dunno what everyone is talking about with the front camera, it's the same resolution as sprint's.
kabuk1 said:
I dunno what everyone is talking about with the front camera, it's the same resolution as sprint's.
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You might have missed this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326314
Yes, I definitely missed that post. Damn :/
Hopefully it's just a software issue.
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Classic or Value if you don't get subsidize it is much cheaper.
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I'm on a value plan. 99 a month for 2 lines. And I'm in an excellent coverage area. But, 2 gigs is definitely not enough. I blew through half of that on Friday listening to Google music beta
First time I missed sprint since I switched a few months back.
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Has anyone tried USB on the go to plug in a USB stick on the T-Mobile GS2?
They disabled it on the Sprint version for some reason, and am wondering if this is another pro I could add to the list.
Another question that I thought of.
Has anyone experienced lots of random crashing to home screen while playing games? Both the Sprint and international Galaxy S2 suffer from a bug in their sound system that causes certain games to crash all the time. If the T-Mobile one doesn't do that, it'd be a huge advantage.
Former sprint to tmo customer.
as a former sprint customer recently switched over to T Mobile in the NorCal area...
SWITCH TO TMOBILE.
holy ****. i ing hate sprint. i got the evo 3d from them, and right out of the box the first unit was bunk. started power cycling directly AFTER i set everything up and linked my contacts. The 3vo being my first android phone, i didn't know that a randomly restarting phone meant LEMONLEMONLEMON so i hung onto it for a couple days, hoping the issue would fix itself or something.
Called IN ADVANCE when the phone first began having issues to talk to the guy who sold me the phone. Brought it in a week after, after trying everything someone rational would, i.e. battery pull, factory reset, etc. and when i brought the device in i was told by the associate, (yes this is a quote) that he couldn't exchange it but that he could do a "hard hard reset" for me, (after i explained to him it had already been reset every way possible) and send me on my way.
Bear in mind sprint store is 35 minutes away in the next town over, and so this is now taken 2 hours of driving, and still no fully functional phone.
i get home, set everything up again, and boom. Literally as i drag the last icon into place it starts power cycling again.
i call corporate at this point to see if i can ensure an actual replacement on my next trip. i get a vague "probably-ish." sorta answer from them.
when i arrive the next day, there's an associate who was obviously told to expect me as he becomes instantly friendly when i tell him my name and he reads some memo on his screen. I give him my phone, and he hands me the power cord and charger, winking at me and goes "this is for your wasted time. keep it, as a thirty dollar value"
now, like all of you, i'm aware a usb cord and adapter is not worth 30 dollars. However, i was appreciative of the gesture, and i know that sprint really will try to charge you 30 bucks for one of those cords.
After a little wait i'm told the technician got my phone in front of him, and it power cycled in his face. so they replaced it. (finally)
as i'm checking out, back with the original associate who i got the dude phone from 2 weeks before, he's being SUPER surly. Won't look me in the eyes or answer any of the questions i have with more than a grunt or mumble. As he's switching out the new phone with the old, he takes the new charger cable and tosses it in the old box and slides it away from me.
i interrupt him and say "hey, the guy i checked in with said i could keep that."
not even bothering to look up, he shrugs, PULLS IT OUT OF MY HAND, tosses it into the box and closes it and says "nope."
i'm a bit taken aback at this point. incredulously i say, "i was told i would be given that for my wasted time. i was already told that i could have that."
to which he says, still not looking up "htc policy we return em."
at this pont, i'm just ing done dealing with this dude. So i just ask him where the other associate is, so i can work it out with him instead, to which he replies "he went to lunch."
"well...when will he be back"
"dunno."
at that point i walked out. I called about the issue and was given a run around.
anyways. thats ONE of my stories with sprint, in the ing 3 months i was with them. i have MANY MANY more. and their corporate branch is just as bad as the stores, i've been told so many contradicting things by sprint associates on the phone that i have literally found myself saying to them in barely hidden anger "HOW CAN ONE OF YOU TELL ME ONE THING AND THEN THE NEXT GUY AFTER THE TRANSFER SAYS THE OPPOSITE?! are you people even working for the same company?!"
anyways, i've had t-mobile since the release of the galaxy s2, and called in several times to change my features and they have been nothing but friendly informative and helpful. I've heard a bunch of **** talked about how the Tmo version of the GS2 is inferior to the others, but i have faith in the good people on these forums to correct most of those inferiorities which i believe are mostly software issues arising from the Tmo version having a different processor than the other versions.
so yeah sorry for the ungodly long post, but i am another sprint customer recently gone to tmobile and just wanted to share a little bit of my experience. here's a short list of ADDITIONAL pros, and the cons.
PROS.
1. WAY faster data, at least in my area. Went from CRAWLING 3g, and no 4g to being able to torrent via my tether when my cable went out. Achieving 9mbps according to speedtest app, never tested on sprint, but it was browsing speeds, AT BEST. took youtube videos AGES to load. Tmo 4g is about half the speed of my home wifi connection, which is impressive.
2. PRO/CON: better service in populated areas, but service does cut out earlier whenever you drive out into middle of nowhere parts. Also, much more continuity between service and data connection. With sprint, lots of service. Mobile data cuts out LOTS. Tmo data pretty much works until you have no service whatsoever, or at least close to that point.
CONS.
1. QUALCOMM processor instead of the one samsung meant for this device. LOTS of info about what this means as far as detrimental effects on device performance ALL OVER this particular forum.
2. Screen Issues...also, look in this forum.
3. No truly unlimited data plan (best you can get is 5 gb then down to EDGE speeds...which suck.)
I moved from Verizon to Sprint because of
1) price
2) unlimited data, talk...
3) Samsung Galaxy SII
1) Well, let's say price is ok, unlimited usage is good, but the internet is not as good as Verizon, so I don't use it too much
2) I don't care if I have unlimited everything if the connection is not reliable.
It's BETTER than T-Mobile though (T-Mobile sucks so bad), but it's nowhere NEAR as good as Verizon
3) Phone SUCKS. Today is the first day I FINALLY was able to
a) root phone
b) Fix the signal issue
I went to Sprint and they offered me $100 credit so I can stay with them, and now my phone is fixed, so in theory I feel like giving them another try
With Verizon, the bill was expensive, I do remember in my family, we paid $260 for 1 smartphone and two simple phones, that's ridiculous
Anyway, if I move by myself to Verizon in order to have the Ice Cream Sandwich phone,
1) Is the 2X data offer from Verizon a good offer to come back to the big red?
2) Any chance I can root the phone and not pay for tethering on Verizon?
3) Is that phone a SUPER PHONE that really deserves all the hassle
To be honest, I really like my Samsung, and now that I fixed the loss of signal error (hopefully, first day after I upgraded), I kind of want to use my phone for a while
I really like the phone itself, but again, I have no idea if the other phone is better than mine, and if it is, how much better?
If Verizon still had unlimited data plans and you have the money for that bill, I would say go to Verizon. LTE is awesome! If I ever went to Verizon now, it would be for a non smartphone and I just wanted good phone service/signal. You'll definitely get faster data speeds on Verizon but having a 2GB cap is painful. And with LTE, you're bound to reach the cap faster unless your consistently on wi-fi. Tethering would just hit your data cap even faster. Unless you plan to get a more expensive plan than 2GB ($30 per month). I mean if money isn't an issue I would choose Verizon. But I got a family to feed and I'm good with Epic Touch on Sprint's unlimited data. I happen to get 4G at home and at work. The 3G isn't slow on my phone but it's not special either.
I read that Sprint is planning LTE in the future. We'll just have to see! If they do switch to LTE and KEEP their UNLIMITED DATA & don't jack up prices on the plans, they will get more people coming to Sprint over other carriers.
What phone sucks? If you are referring to the et4g then yeah go get bent by Verizon. This RIG rocks. Also the G nex only has 16GB internal no sd card slot. Wtf I would fill that in about ten minutes. Geesh is ICS that important.
Noo the galaxy nexus has 32g. If u live in a 4g area I say go for it. But then again how much is 4gigs when ur blazing 4g speeds good thing the galaxy nexus has that data limiter! !
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I also read that Sprint will begin rolling out a TD-LTE network next year...supposedly it should be faster than standard LTE so i will be sicking around for It
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If Verizon still had unlimited data plans and you have the money for that bill, I would say go to Verizon. LTE is awesome! If I ever went to Verizon now, it would be for a non smartphone and I just wanted good phone service/signal. You'll definitely get faster data speeds on Verizon but having a 2GB cap is painful. And with LTE, you're bound to reach the cap faster unless your consistently on wi-fi. Tethering would just hit your data cap even faster. Unless you plan to get a more expensive plan than 2GB ($30 per month). I mean if money isn't an issue I would choose Verizon. But I got a family to feed and I'm good with Epic Touch on Sprint's unlimited data. I happen to get 4G at home and at work. The 3G isn't slow on my phone but it's not special either.
I read that Sprint is planning LTE in the future. We'll just have to see! If they do switch to LTE and KEEP their UNLIMITED DATA & don't jack up prices on the plans, they will get more people coming to Sprint over other carriers.
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I love it, sprint is rolling out faster LTE. lol when I hear fanboy comments. That's not a good justification that sprint "will" have LTE. I USED to be a sprint customer, I used it along with my Verizon, then after about 10 days I realized what a mistake I made. At least in my area, 3G was painfully slow, no 4G in sight, and just a bad experience. Idk why sprint went with wimax and how they failed so badly. At the time it was a decent move as it is SOMEWHAT faster than 3G, but still not even as fast as T-Mobile's synthetic 4G. With that said if u want to be able to see INSANE speeds I would make the move back to VZW. I know ill get the whole "pics or it didn't happen" but Verizon can pull 40+MB/s down and up to 50 at time ls and I've seen 20 up. These aren't flukes, it can be replicated. Several times over. I know the argument that sprint has unlimited 4G, but what good is that when its on a network(WiMax) that will be useless in the next 18 months? Agreeing with and above poster it will be insanely easy to blow thru 4GB(assuming vzw still has double the data promo) on VZW bc it downloads stuff so fast that u won't hesitate to download that 1GB or larger file. If u have no regards for money, by all means Verizon is your best bet. By the end of 2013 vzw will have 4G in places that sprint, tmo l, or att have rarely had 3G. I have traveled across the entire US, several times from the east coast to the west and it does happen, but is very rare that vzw loses service. Rarely is 3G even lost. I was a bit harsh earlier on sprint, as they are a solid wireless provider but the term in this particular place "u get what u pay for" applies. At least in the case of Verizon. As I stated earlier in my post. If u have the Money, search the forums BC there are still a few loopholes to find unlimited on vzw, it is worth every penny u can throw at it.
With that said, I'm about 20 miles outside of a 4G area so I don't use it daily. However, I use it enough to know how good it is. Obviously I'm typing this from the dinc2, which isn't 4g. But the bionic is.
Before I commit to leaving 4G on all the time they are gonna have to finish the next Gen of lte radios BC the battery life on all 4G phones(vzw or not) leaves something to be desired.
Lastly, I do not agree that the E4GT sucks. IMHO its the best out of the entire GS2 line.
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Obviously I'm typing this from the dinc2, which isn't 4g. But the bionic is.
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You must not have heard all the complaints about the Bionic.
Never change companies for a phone or OS. What's hot today is next weeks crap. You change because a company serves your area better.
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What I'm kind of wondering is why are you posting in the Sprint Epic 4g Touch forum when you're so biased against Sprint while also using an Incredible 2 on Verizon? Regardless, your prerogative.
Anyways, one of my techs has been asking me this exact question for days now as he wants the Galaxy Nexus. I'll tell you exactly what I told him.
First off, you're going to be spending a lot more money per month on Verizon's plan to begin with, that's less money down the road for a better device when the one you're currently using becomes outdated. Yes, I've used LTE, and dear god it is fast and nice. Through all appropriate channels, though, you can only get a maximum of 4GB cap at the standard $30 data price. This cap can be blasted past within minutes, not weeks, not days, not even hours. While the rebuttal may be "Well I'm always within WiFi range anyways, so I wouldn't need to use my LTE," that's fine and dandy. If that's the case, then why are you switching? Use the WiFi now and boost the data speeds you continue to complain about. These times are getting to be the "I want" and no longer the "I need" generation as everything we might "need" can be done without issue on the 3G network, we just want to do it faster. Patience is a virtue, and it will pay off. Sprint, regardless of what the haters say, is rolling out an LTE network. It will serve its purpose. Staying with it will secure you your unlimited data, 20 month upgrades and build you tenure with the carrier. They are much more likely to assist you in the future if they see you stuck with them through rough times instead of bouncing around carriers with every new gadget that hits the market. The devices on Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile really do not even justify making the switch. Our Epic 4G Touch matches and/or blows their specs away, including the Galaxy Nexus. Its camera is a slight bit improved, screen has a little bit better contrast and DPI (which we have workarounds to compare with it), but everything else is on par with one another. Keep in mind we have a wonderful group of developers supporting this phone that will be providing us with ICS quickly while adding in their unique flavors to enhance an already spectacular experience on our phones. This is the way of XDA.
If things are absolutely terrible and you have no Sprint coverage where you are, then making the move might be a good option. Otherwise, you're more likely to benefit from riding it out for another year.
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This was 1 helluva ****in answer!!!! I could'nt have said it any better. Besides, while they're chasin that Galaxy Nexus, Sprint will have it too soon enough.
Verizon will never get love from me. 10-20 dollar text messaging plans are a scam... period
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What I'm kind of wondering is why are you posting in the Sprint Epic 4g Touch forum when you're so biased against Sprint while also using an Incredible 2 on Verizon? Regardless, your prerogative.
Anyways, one of my techs has been asking me this exact question for days now as he wants the Galaxy Nexus. I'll tell you exactly what I told him.
First off, you're going to be spending a lot more money per month on Verizon's plan to begin with, that's less money down the road for a better device when the one you're currently using becomes outdated. Yes, I've used LTE, and dear god it is fast and nice. Through all appropriate channels, though, you can only get a maximum of 4GB cap at the standard $30 data price. This cap can be blasted past within minutes, not weeks, not days, not even hours. While the rebuttal may be "Well I'm always within WiFi range anyways, so I wouldn't need to use my LTE," that's fine and dandy. If that's the case, then why are you switching? Use the WiFi now and boost the data speeds you continue to complain about. These times are getting to be the "I want" and no longer the "I need" generation as everything we might "need" can be done without issue on the 3G network, we just want to do it faster. Patience is a virtue, and it will pay off. Sprint, regardless of what the haters say, is rolling out an LTE network. It will serve its purpose. Staying with it will secure you your unlimited data, 20 month upgrades and build you tenure with the carrier. They are much more likely to assist you in the future if they see you stuck with them through rough times instead of bouncing around carriers with every new gadget that hits the market. The devices on Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile really do not even justify making the switch. Our Epic 4G Touch matches and/or blows their specs away, including the Galaxy Nexus. Its camera is a slight bit improved, screen has a little bit better contrast and DPI (which we have workarounds to compare with it), but everything else is on par with one another. Keep in mind we have a wonderful group of developers supporting this phone that will be providing us with ICS quickly while adding in their unique flavors to enhance an already spectacular experience on our phones. This is the way of XDA.
If things are absolutely terrible and you have no Sprint coverage where you are, then making the move might be a good option. Otherwise, you're more likely to benefit from riding it out for another year.
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Well said, I left Verizon for Sprint, because of the amazingly piss poor customer service (curiously when I was porting my number they finally treated me pretty well).
Their data speeds were fast but I never got anywhere near 40 MB/s down, for me it was always still faster to use wifi whenever possible. And, the phones I had (Droid X, Thunderbolt) generally sucked.
When you factor all that in with the higher prices my decision was an easy one. However, only you can make the decision that is right for you, best of luck either way.
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What phone sucks? If you are referring to the et4g then yeah go get bent by Verizon. This RIG rocks. Also the G nex only has 16GB internal no sd card slot. Wtf I would fill that in about ten minutes. Geesh is ICS that important.
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dude it rocks now, December 15th
it's been a sucky phone for the last two months, EVERY SINGLE DAY I have to reboot it
Loss of signal
Ok, here are a few things I have in mind
1) Nobody mentioned if I can have free tethering at Verizon
2) what about LCD Root?
I have that program in my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch and man the screen in my phone is the best screen I've EVER had EVER
I love my phone, now with the loss of service fixed, FINALLY I have a nice Samsung Galaxy S II
But part of me thinks, man, I've been waiting for SG II since April 2011.
Maybe this month I can go to Verizon and get a nice phone that will serve me well for 2012?
I already waited way way way too much for SGII
I am going to see how much it costs to go back to Verizon, I suppose that if I can tether for free, with root, hack, whatever, then that would make me change in no time
What I don't like about Verizon is the plans.
WIth Sprint I can talk 10 hours per day, no problem
with Verizon I think unlimited costs $79 and data costs $30, insurance $10, txt $20... keep adding and adding you're talking about $130-$150 for unlimited everything (and still it's not unlimited because of 4GB Data Cap)
With Sprint I do like the fact that it's really unlimited, and it's cheap
But I just feel that SGII was a phone for 2011
Samsung Nexus is the phone for 2012
So I might as well switch now that the device is ready
Anyone agrees?
Edit: here's a detailed break down I read about the text plan, smh.
You can spend $25 for 2GB of mobile data which they claim ends up being about 80MB per dollar which then translates to 500,000 text messages each 160 characters long. We’ll bet you seldom hit the 160 character mark which makes this even worse. Now take that dollar and divide it by the number of texts and each one probably costs $0.000002 or two ten thousandths of a cent. That isn’t very much. If you send 5,000 texts in month then those texts cost about $0.01 – a penny.
Point proven...
PLUS a 30 dollar data plan?
Go ahead, go on down that road...
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Don't use too much of that fast lte or you will go over your data cap.
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How fast would 2GB go if you wanted to flash Cyanogen nightlies right to your phone?
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Noo the galaxy nexus has 32g. If u live in a 4g area I say go for it. But then again how much is 4gigs when ur blazing 4g speeds good thing the galaxy nexus has that data limiter! !
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Lol, where did you hear it has 32gb?? I hope you're not getting it because you will only walk away said with only 16gb.
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How fast would 2GB go if you wanted to flash Cyanogen nightlies right to your phone?
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I couldn't even download all of my google music library
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Ok, here are a few things I have in mind
But I just feel that SGII was a phone for 2011
Samsung Nexus is the phone for 2012
So I might as well switch now that the device is ready
Anyone agrees?
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I disagree. Honestly? There isn't that much difference in performance between the SGS II and the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest difference really is ICS, and, hopefully, it won't be too terribly long before we with the E4GT have ICS. That, and a higher DPI screen, which is marginally larger (0.15").
I know that I have never been doing something on my E4GT and been cursing my phone for being slow and laggy. The only thing that is slow is the network, and that's mostly because I live in an area where about half the time, I only have 1x, and not 3g. Granted, the 3g isn't as fast as verizon, but for me, it's acceptable. Even when it's clocked down to 800 mHz (which mine does below 50% battery) it still flies. I changed to the E4GT because it was a big step up from the OG Epic. That big step simply does not exist from the E4GT to the Galaxy Nexus.
No i disagree.
1.The phone will come to other carriers.
2. $50 dollars more a month really worth it for the new "phone" Thats 600 the first year.
I'm thinking about doing the same jumping ship to Verizon to get the Galaxy Nexus. I have no kids and a good job. Also I can get a 22% monthly corporate discount and 25% of accessories too. I was thinking about the 10gb(don't even use 3gb a month) for $50. I can get rid of my home internet and tether off that phone. If y'all had the opportunity to do this switch, would you do it?
hey guys i have been on the gnex previously gs3 for about 4 days and just now noticing horrible data speeds on sprint had to revert to flashing vzw prl's. they continue to send me refurb gnex's and they all the same issue and the only option they give me for a device is a lg viper which is still running gb so i consider this a downgrade. what can be done for sprint to offer me a better more reasonable device, i continue to call with the same outcome called account services aka "the retention department" contact tech support with no luck they tell me to take it to a service center in which case i don't have time with my current schedule to physically bring it in to the store does anyone going thought something similar have a positive outcome in the situation.
Get some screen shots of your data speeds over the course of a day so you have some supporting information. Speedtest.net is the app I use. If you have a different device that you can show comparison with, do that as well. Get in touch with Sprint's retention department and let them know that you are still having problems with data speeds and can document it. If they still refuse to provide a new device, tell them that you would like to be released from your contract due to failure to provide the specified speeds. They are obligated to provide at least the specified lowest speed. Two things you should keep in mind. 1) Your data speeds are going to have to be below Sprint's minimum specs consistently for this to work. 2) Stay calm and polite with the people you are talking with. They are usually willing to try and help, especially when a customer is considering leaving due to dissatisfaction. Even if they aren't willing to do what's necessary to keep your business, at least you'll be free to take it elsewhere. They will request that the phone be returned, but if it's defective anyway, no big deal. Hope this helps and you can get it sorted out soon.
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Get some screen shots of your data speeds over the course of a day so you have some supporting information. Speedtest.net is the app I use. If you have a different device that you can show comparison with, do that as well. Get in touch with Sprint's retention department and let them know that you are still having problems with data speeds and can document it. If they still refuse to provide a new device, tell them that you would like to be released from your contract due to failure to provide the specified speeds. They are obligated to provide at least the specified lowest speed. Two things you should keep in mind. 1) Your data speeds are going to have to be below Sprint's minimum specs consistently for this to work. 2) Stay calm and polite with the people you are talking with. They are usually willing to try and help, especially when a customer is considering leaving due to dissatisfaction. Even if they aren't willing to do what's necessary to keep your business, at least you'll be free to take it elsewhere. They will request that the phone be returned, but if it's defective anyway, no big deal. Hope this helps and you can get it sorted out soon.
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thanks buddy i have called retention several times but look for a way out of contract seems like the best option my d.l speeds are consistantly below 100 kb/s however my uploads are about 400 so that part i am worried about and what do they say i am supposed to get on 3g? i will save some s.s. on computer once they are needed.
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thanks buddy i have called retention several times but look for a way out of contract seems like the best option my d.l speeds are consistantly below 100 kb/s however my uploads are about 400 so that part i am worried about and what do they say i am supposed to get on 3g? i will save some s.s. on computer once they are needed.
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Not sure what Sprint is guaranteeing for minimum on 3G, but if you check out your contract details online, they should be specified. My strong suspicion is that 100kb/s will be short of that minimum by a pretty significant amount. Good luck, and keep us posted.
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Not sure what Sprint is guaranteeing for minimum on 3G, but if you check out your contract details online, they should be specified. My strong suspicion is that 100kb/s will be short of that minimum by a pretty significant amount. Good luck, and keep us posted.
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i will keep you posted. i have asked several time that i can have a copy of my contact mailed to me or email or what not and all they have is a brief over view of contract policies not the full blown contract and that i should have it however i never recieved anything in the first place or anything mailed to me for that matter, isn't this technically a way out of contract even though i started my contract over the phone.seems like a resonable conplain if they can't provide me with a contract as any contract i have ever had the "supplier" of services should have a copy of the "terms"
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i will keep you posted. i have asked several time that i can have a copy of my contact mailed to me or email or what not and all they have is a brief over view of contract policies not the full blown contract and that i should have it however i never recieved anything in the first place or anything mailed to me for that matter, isn't this technically a way out of contract even though i started my contract over the phone.seems like a resonable conplain if they can't provide me with a contract as any contract i have ever had the "supplier" of services should have a copy of the "terms"
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Before you go that route, try logging in to your Sprint account and see if your contract is in there in a digital format. I agree that they should be able to send you a copy of the complete contract, rather than an abbreviated one, but I think you'll be coming from a stronger position with the data speed issue.
You're on Sprint, whatever it is, it's normal. I'm serious, no bars where Verizon gets full 4G, normal.
With friends' phones I've never really gotten anything better than 100kbps down, especially away from a window.
So I may just argue for a contract release....
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jimmyco2008 said:
You're on Sprint, whatever it is, it's normal. I'm serious, no bars where Verizon gets full 4G, normal.
With friends' phones I've never really gotten anything better than 100kbps down, especially away from a window.
So I may just argue for a contract release....
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been trying to argue and they keep telling me to take it to a service center and have it "fixed" which isn't going to solve the problem they are going to factory reset my phone and say ok it works fine now. and back to square one.
And people wonder why they're the only major carrier with unlimited, unthrottled data. Any other way and they'd go bankrupt.
Throw in words like "lawsuit" if you can finally get your hands on the contract and prove that 100kbps down is basically illegal. You'll be set loose faster than...something fast lol
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And people wonder why they're the only major carrier with unlimited, unthrottled data. Any other way and they'd go bankrupt.
Throw in words like "lawsuit" if you can finally get your hands on the contract and prove that 100kbps down is basically illegal. You'll be set loose faster than...something fast lol
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Their not the only unlimited, unthrottled data carrier. T-mobile has unlimited, unthrottled data as well. I get 6 to 9mpbs down on my GNEX on t-mobile. I know that isn't as fast and Verizon, or maybe not as fast as some people with T-Mobile, but day to day stuff it is fast enough.
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Their not the only unlimited, unthrottled data carrier. T-mobile has unlimited, unthrottled data as well. I get 6 to 9mpbs down on my GNEX on t-mobile. I know that isn't as fast and Verizon, or maybe not as fast as some people with T-Mobile, but day to day stuff it is fast enough.
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they were the one of the only "unlimited" for a long time until recently tmobile, but in my opinion i would much rather have a decent internet connection than have unlimited bull**** where i am waiting for years for one freaking web page to load it is a never ending battle with these guys i just want out, hell i have been with sprint for over 7 years and nothing will budge wtf!!
T-Mobile's only "unlimited" until you hit your cap, at which time they throw you into EDGE jail.
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T-Mobile's only "unlimited" until you hit your cap, at which time they throw you into EDGE jail.
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They just introduced the truly unlimited plan, a couple of months ago. I hit 20 gigs thanks to to YouTube in 720.
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thanks buddy i have called retention several times but look for a way out of contract seems like the best option my d.l speeds are consistantly below 100 kb/s however my uploads are about 400 so that part i am worried about and what do they say i am supposed to get on 3g? i will save some s.s. on computer once they are needed.
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Sounds about right for Sprint 3G speeds in a non-network vision upgraded area. Sprint does not guarantee speeds unfortunately. There is nothing wrong with your phone. Your best chance for faster speeds on Sprint will be if you are in an area that will be upgraded to Network Vision soon. I can consistently get over 1Mbps on 3G where I had less than 100kbps before...that is of course if I choose to turn off 4G.
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They allegedly got rid of throttling, but I still see "5GB of full speed data" on their site.
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