I posted in another thread about a problem with ICS concerning "Touch Key Light Duration", but feel it needs it's own thread.
My problem is "Touch Key Light Duration". Seems to be a problem with the little bit I googled. I can set it the duration to "Always On, but it has a mind of it's own. Somethings will turn off the light; I have to go back into the settings to reset the light.
I've played with all of the power setting, power saving, display settings I can find, but cannot find a way to keep the lights on the way I want. I've done Factory Reset, I've changed the duration, changed power settings,etc to no avail.
Anybody else having this problem?
Anybody have a solution, or an app to fix this?
Same problem here.....I had to choose 6 seconds option in order to get it to work.
I have exact same thing as droid_ra.
I hope somebody will come up with a fix, it's really annoying.
Are you guys running Stock? If so ICS or GB?
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Are you guys running Stock? If so ICS or GB?
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Didn't have the problem with GB.
Now I'm running stock ICS. I even tried to do a wipe and reinstall with no success. May try it again.
Haven't tried rooting yet, although I've read in another thread that it may fix it.
I'm running stock ICS rooted, but the problem started right after I upgraded from GB to ICS.
So this problem is not ROOT dependent, but rather ICS's fault.
Like a someone else said, if you adjust it to 6 seconds delay, it will work properly.
However, I like to keep it at "Always On".
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
I too have the same problem. I'm running stock ICS that has been rooted. I did not have the problem when I was running stock GB that was rooted. Hmmm....
I was looking for confirmation and a fix when I created this thread.
Looks like a bug and Samsung/T-Mobile needs to fix this one.
Perhaps a dev can look into this?
yeah this is quite annoying. "always on" just simply doesn't work. 6-seconds is what I use now but I really wish I could go back to "always on" and have it work. Again, all since ICS update. Overall pretty please with the update but this and the mobile-life sync thing are annoying...
Same problem here, not rooted but happened going from GB to ICS, will have an Siii this week so hoping it's not an issue there.
Work Around
Hey guys I found a work around.
I used tasker and screen filter together to make the backlights light up whenever I turn the screen on.
I made a new tasker profile with the event Display On then put one screen filter task set to 96% and softkey lights off and another screen filter task right after it at 100% and softkey lights on. It takes a split second after turning the display on but 90% of the time it works every time.
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Hey guys I found a work around.
I used tasker and screen filter together to make the backlights light up whenever I turn the screen on.
I made a new tasker profile with the event Display On then put one screen filter task set to 96% and softkey lights off and another screen filter task right after it at 100% and softkey lights on. It takes a split second after turning the display on but 90% of the time it works every time.
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My apologies in advance for my ignorance, but how does one go about creating a "tasker profile?"
rabilancia said:
My apologies in advance for my ignorance, but how does one go about creating a "tasker profile?"
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You go into your tasker app then hit new. Then after you name it, it will pop up with "first context" and choose event--->display--->display on.
jgbenito7,
Thank you VERY much! I had no idea that there was such an app. It's been a while since I've used anything like tasker so I'm going to go slowly: read, read some more, then experiment. Thank you again,
Rich
rabilancia said:
jgbenito7,
Thank you VERY much! I had no idea that there was such an app. It's been a while since I've used anything like tasker so I'm going to go slowly: read, read some more, then experiment. Thank you again,
Rich
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No problem!
Did you get it to work? The only problem is that tasker is a paid app but its great for little workarounds like these.
I'm still reading how to use the tasker app. I think I understand the event section figured out but having some trouble figuring out the actions (e.g., "filter task set to 96% and softkey lights off....").
LifeHacker has two great articles: here http://lifehacker.com/5599116 and here http://lifehacker.com/5601133. I also downloaded the 14 day trial here: http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html . That way I can decide if I want to spend the money. Right now, it looks like I will.
rabilancia said:
I'm still reading how to use the tasker app. I think I understand the event section figured out but having some trouble figuring out the actions (e.g., "filter task set to 96% and softkey lights off....").
LifeHacker has two great articles: here http://lifehacker.com/5599116 and here http://lifehacker.com/5601133. I also downloaded the 14 day trial here: http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html . That way I can decide if I want to spend the money. Right now, it looks like I will.
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I guess I could have been a little bit more specific...
There are two apps to download "Tasker" and "Screen Filter."
You open up Tasker then hit "new". After naming your profile hit okay then "First Context" window will appear. Hit "event". Then "Select Event Category" will appear. Hit "Display" then "Display On". The priority box will pop up but just hit "done". That is your event that triggers the actions. You should then be in "Task Edit". Click the "+" sign then "Plugin" then "Screen Filter". You should see "edit" across from "configuration". Click on edit then adjust the brightness to 96.1% (not 100% on the first one because it wont work right) then uncheck the "enable soft-key backlight" box. Hit save. Now add the second action by hitting the "+" sign again and do the same steps except this time have the brightness at 100% and the box checked for "enable soft-key backlight". The second action toggles the backlight therefore enabling it and also gets rid of the notification in the status bar. After you are finished hit "done" and then make sure to hit "apply". Test it out!
Got it! Thanks again. I was missing the "Screen Filter" app. I have the Task (event and action) up and running. It didn't work first try because the "Settings / Display / Touch key light duration" was set at "6 seconds." When I changed it to "always on" it started working. I'm looking forward to really getting into "Tasker!"
Had the same problem on every single rom!!
Posted in general, q&a and the rom threads abt this
A clean stock gb/ics doesnt have the problem i tested it for days
Seems like no dev cares abt the problem so i got used to the 6seconds option, i suggest that u do the same
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Same problem here with rogers Official ICS on the Skyrocket, tried Google & saw lots of posts about the problem, but no real solutions. I don't think that it's carrier related... It's either Samsung or Google's problem. It's a pita!
Sent from, The Eclectic Chair.
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Hi folks,
a quick question: since I am using WM6 my tytn always displays the today screen after comming from the suspend mode or blanc screen. This was definitly not the behaviour it did with WM5. An example:
When I'm listening to music with the built in Windows Media Player I like to turn off the screen (using the built in blanc screen function) to save battery. When I switch on the device again to change music or something the device always displays the today sceeen instead of the media player application and I have to switch back to the media player window manually. That drives me crazy as it is not the way it behaved using WM5.
Is there any possibility to change this behaviour in the way, that WM6 shows the last used application instead of the today screen when resuming from suspend mode or blanc screen?
Thank you!
Check you Today settings.
Go to Start>Settings>Today>Items tab and investigate the "Today Timeout" setting.
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Go to Start>Settings>Today>Items tab and investigate the "Today Timeout" setting.
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I checked this already. The described problem is not related to the Today timeout setting. It appears every time, after a few seconds blanc screen anyway. Try it, you'll see.
i have also experianced this, is really annoying, anyone have any ideas how to resolve it...?
r3d3 said:
Hi folks,
a quick question: since I am using WM6 my tytn always displays the today screen after comming from the suspend mode or blanc screen. This was definitly not the behaviour it did with WM5.
Thank you!
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Hi!
The best prgm I used for this reason is PPcsoft psShutXP u can have it on tray and u gona have 3 alt. Light Off Shut Down and Soft Reset strike on Light Off it works fine
I like this "feature". Problem I have is if I leave outlook open, I don't get a LED notification of new mail. At some point I had a ROM installed that always went back to the today screen and seem to resolve my issue. Is this something that can be changed in the registry?
Cal
nobody knows anything about that? Can't believe that there are not more people out there, who suffer from this issue
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nobody knows anything about that? Can't believe that there are not more people out there, who suffer from this issue
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Hi!
I think if u try the program I mentioned at #5 u gona like it. Here is the link
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
same problem here...
BatteryStatus
I think this might be related to BateryStatus Today Plugin.
There is a check box under "Tools" - "Show Today Screen on WakeUp". If you uncheck this it stops behaving in this way.
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I think this might be related to BateryStatus Today Plugin.
There is a check box under "Tools" - "Show Today Screen on WakeUp". If you uncheck this it stops behaving in this way.
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I do not use BatterySTatus but I'll try it for solving my issue
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Hi!
I think if u try the program I mentioned at #5 u gona like it. Here is the link
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Thanks for sharing the link but I think, this will not solve the problem for me: as far as I can see you have to go to the today screen anyway to reach the buttons this tool provides. So I haven't got anything....
Great stuff! Batterystatus really solved the problem...just set the tool to not show today screen and it works. Thanks for the hint!
(though I really don't understand that MS doesn't support this feature?!)
Hi, its not that MS doesn't support it, its that its enabled on some roms, and others not, mine always returns to whatever app it was on, after suspend, If you wanted to help figure out the cause, I suggest you install sktracker, and do a before and after the battery status install, and see what key that option in battery status is changing, I don't much care for battery status myself.
Start > Settings > Today > Items Tab
UNCHECK the Today Timeout
Today Timeout means that if the device is left unchecked for say, the Default "4 Hours" than after 4 hours, no matter what program window was running, it defaults back to the today screen when the device is reawakened
pssibly a bug in your OS or some program you are running makes it so every time you turn it back on
but uncheck that and maybe youll have some luck??
i had a similar problem with my iPaq hx4700 where if i was at the today screen, it would keep flickering, refreshing it every 1 second
i disabled the today timeout, and viola, its worked fine since
I have this issue too.
lonwas said:
I think this might be related to BateryStatus Today Plugin.
There is a check box under "Tools" - "Show Today Screen on WakeUp". If you uncheck this it stops behaving in this way.
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Unrelated. I have BS installed and that option is NOT checked, yet it still does it.
This is very annoying, I like mine to sleep after 2 mins (to save power and lock the keyboard). then back to the today screen and have to switch to what I was doing..
Related to the Lock setting?
I have the same problem, and I think it is related to the lock settings. When I enable a simple PIN, my phone always returns to the Today screen after leaving suspend, regardless of the settings in the Today aplet.
If I disable the simple pin in the Lock settings applet, the pone returns to the last used application (unless the today timeout has been exceeded, as one would expect).
Hopefully that will help someone discover a fix. This problem did not occur in WM 5.
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I have the same problem, and I think it is related to the lock settings. When I enable a simple PIN, my phone always returns to the Today screen after leaving suspend, regardless of the settings in the Today aplet.
If I disable the simple pin in the Lock settings applet, the pone returns to the last used application (unless the today timeout has been exceeded, as one would expect).
Hopefully that will help someone discover a fix. This problem did not occur in WM 5.
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Hey, you are absolutely right. The problem won't be fixed by Batterystatus. I just mad a hardreset and didn't set a password, so I thought batterystatus fixed it.
It is a bug with the built in password function. So, is there anybody out there, who is able to fix that?
As said before, the Today showing after power-on the device is "another" problem caused by the WM6 Password Lock System. It's necessary to disable the password that locks the device to fix it.
And it's not the only problem. Be warned, don't try this at home!!!; if you got a password active and then you change the Owner Name without changing the password, you will find after the next reboot that your machine is unreachable because the password isn't recognized at all.
Incredible but true!
Hi,
I have a Tilt 2 with stock ROM. The only two enhancements I use is "S2U2" and "Advanced Configuration Tool" ! I changed someting and now have a little problem :
When I get an incoming call and the caller id with the pic pops up, I can't pickup the call, using the green on-sceen button. This button does NOT pickup the phone call. I have to use the green hardware button to pickup the incoming call. However, I can use the RED on-screen button to end the call.
I soft reset the phone a few times and tried some settings with the "S2U2 and Advanced Config. Tool", but I can't get it to work.
Any ideas ?
I'd appreciate any help and suggestions.
Thanks,
JCE
same thing is happening to me, neither the onscreen slide, or the hard button work..
can't wait for an answer -_-
i lurk this forum here and there, and i still don't understand anything...at all -_-
jerzey_devil said:
same thing is happening to me, neither the onscreen slide, or the hard button work..
can't wait for an answer -_-
i lurk this forum here and there, and i still don't understand anything...at all -_-
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Haha, it takes time to understand all the jargon and such that takes place around here. Just do some reading and searching, don't be afraid to ask questions if you can't find a thread explaining it. Eventually I would suggest flashing to a good rom like one of the Energy Rom's or a Cell Rom. The two best Rom Cooks on the Rhodium (Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2) side of xda.
I say the same thing as doublen1, use a non-stock ROM because these come with features already installed and you will be able to use S2U2 and all that stuff. and about the actual issue, I have had problems picking up calls with the screen, so I just started using the hardware keys.
Make sure you didn't mess around with any of the touch screen settings in Adv. Configr or BSB tweaks or something like that. This usually causes the problem with the dialer.
Hi AllTheWay,
well, I don't remember changing anything in the "Advanced Config. Tools" which would cause the touch screen settings to be different. However, I might have done or changed something...... Is there a way to get the "Touch Screen" settings to a default level without hard resetting the device ?
Thank you.
JCE
jce2005 said:
Hi AllTheWay,
well, I don't remember changing anything in the "Advanced Config. Tools" which would cause the touch screen settings to be different. However, I might have done or changed something...... Is there a way to get the "Touch Screen" settings to a default level without hard resetting the device ?
Thank you.
JCE
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Not that I know of off the top of my head. There might be a setting inside of Adv Config that would allow you to restore to default. Also the S2U2 has a setting to take control as the dialer screen when somebody calls. You can try messing around with the settings in S2U2 as well.
PM me if you don't find an answer soon.
I have the setting checked to keep screen on while on AC, but it still auto dims to about 10% after 30 seconds or so. I want to stop it from doing this and just keep the screen at 90% all the time. Auto-brightness is already off, and that didn't change anything.
I'm trying to setup a tasker profile to turn the brightness to 90% during the day when in the car. Everything works fine, I can see the screen get brighter, BUT it still dims after 30 seconds and I can't see the display when it's bright out unless I touch the screen, then it comes back to full brightness again.
Help please?
settings - display - screen timeout - never turn off
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settings - display - screen timeout - never turn off
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I don't have that option. Only goes to 30 min. I'm running CM6.
bigmoogle said:
settings - display - screen timeout - never turn off
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But the screen still dims to about 10% (even with Sense and even while plugged in).
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But the screen still dims to about 10% (even with Sense and even while plugged in).
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Exactly.
I've temporarily resolved this by having tasker open car home, then opening pandora.
When car home is running, it won't dim the screen.
Now I have to figure out how to make it do this without car home open.
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Did anyone ever find a solution?
Settings > Applications > Development > Stay Awake (Screen will never sleep while charging)
This is true but the screen still dims.
Still searching for an answer.
I had the same problem. After some searching I found this over on android forums and it's working like a champ for me. Hope this helps! (I don't think there's any system setting that will change this, unfortunately)
Download the app "Setting Profiles Lite". Lite is free and only lets you create 1 rule at a time, but multiple profiles (Actions you want it to do when the rule is happening)
1. Create a profile that simply changes the screen time out to "Screen Never Times out" Save it as whatever name you want.
2. Create a rule. Under conditions add a condition for Battery that when "plugged into any charger", hit OK. Now add an action to Activate Profile, and choose the profile you made above.
Bam! When plugged into the charger, the screen timeout goes to never, and the screen stays bright, unplug it and time out goes back to whatever you had it set at!
I have been using this for about 10 min now so I'm a rookie but it seems to be working! Make sure if you screw around in it that you don't accidentally disable the rule (I did that because I tried to make another and the Lite won't let you make 2 rules, and it disabled the first one. Just had to long press to enable it again)
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I had the same problem. After some searching I found this over on android forums and it's working like a champ for me. Hope this helps! (I don't think there's any system setting that will change this, unfortunately)
Download the app "Setting Profiles Lite". Lite is free and only lets you create 1 rule at a time, but multiple profiles (Actions you want it to do when the rule is happening)
1. Create a profile that simply changes the screen time out to "Screen Never Times out" Save it as whatever name you want.
2. Create a rule. Under conditions add a condition for Battery that when "plugged into any charger", hit OK. Now add an action to Activate Profile, and choose the profile you made above.
Bam! When plugged into the charger, the screen timeout goes to never, and the screen stays bright, unplug it and time out goes back to whatever you had it set at!
I have been using this for about 10 min now so I'm a rookie but it seems to be working! Make sure if you screw around in it that you don't accidentally disable the rule (I did that because I tried to make another and the Lite won't let you make 2 rules, and it disabled the first one. Just had to long press to enable it again)
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Nice find Going to try it now....
SOLVED
spalding1028 said:
I had the same problem. After some searching I found this over on android forums and it's working like a champ for me. Hope this helps! (I don't think there's any system setting that will change this, unfortunately)
Download the app "Setting Profiles Lite". Lite is free and only lets you create 1 rule at a time, but multiple profiles (Actions you want it to do when the rule is happening)
1. Create a profile that simply changes the screen time out to "Screen Never Times out" Save it as whatever name you want.
2. Create a rule. Under conditions add a condition for Battery that when "plugged into any charger", hit OK. Now add an action to Activate Profile, and choose the profile you made above.
Bam! When plugged into the charger, the screen timeout goes to never, and the screen stays bright, unplug it and time out goes back to whatever you had it set at!
I have been using this for about 10 min now so I'm a rookie but it seems to be working! Make sure if you screw around in it that you don't accidentally disable the rule (I did that because I tried to make another and the Lite won't let you make 2 rules, and it disabled the first one. Just had to long press to enable it again)
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Works great! Thank you for coming up with a fix!
spalding1028 said:
I had the same problem. After some searching I found this over on android forums and it's working like a champ for me. Hope this helps! (I don't think there's any system setting that will change this, unfortunately)
Download the app "Setting Profiles Lite". Lite is free and only lets you create 1 rule at a time, but multiple profiles (Actions you want it to do when the rule is happening)
1. Create a profile that simply changes the screen time out to "Screen Never Times out" Save it as whatever name you want.
2. Create a rule. Under conditions add a condition for Battery that when "plugged into any charger", hit OK. Now add an action to Activate Profile, and choose the profile you made above.
Bam! When plugged into the charger, the screen timeout goes to never, and the screen stays bright, unplug it and time out goes back to whatever you had it set at!
I have been using this for about 10 min now so I'm a rookie but it seems to be working! Make sure if you screw around in it that you don't accidentally disable the rule (I did that because I tried to make another and the Lite won't let you make 2 rules, and it disabled the first one. Just had to long press to enable it again)
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THANK YOU!
From time to time I've searched for a solution to this annoying problem, but came up dry. For months I've been using the built-in Power Control widget to manually toggle between Auto-bright when on battery, and Full-bright when on the charger, but NEVER AGAIN
I mean, if your phone's on the charger, why wouldn't you want to take advantage of the plentiful juice pouring out of the charger to power the screen? (Maybe, and I don't know if this is true, but maybe the battery will charge slightly slower with the display sucking a bit more of the available 0.5 max amps over USB.)
IMO, this problem is really worthy of being solved by a standalone app, apart from the more general Settings Profile Lite (but now that it's solved... I don't feel the urge to code it anymore.)
ChargeBright app
FWIW, I did finally end up writing my own app to solve this problem. Check out the ChargeBright app @ market.android.com if interested.
Settings Profile Lite was overkill since I only needed to tweak one setting: display brightness when charging. ChargeBright saves resources and is better tailored to the specific task in any case.
spalding1028 said:
I had the same problem. After some searching I found this over on android forums and it's working like a champ for me. Hope this helps! (I don't think there's any system setting that will change this, unfortunately)
Download the app "Setting Profiles Lite". Lite is free and only lets you create 1 rule at a time, but multiple profiles (Actions you want it to do when the rule is happening)
1. Create a profile that simply changes the screen time out to "Screen Never Times out" Save it as whatever name you want.
2. Create a rule. Under conditions add a condition for Battery that when "plugged into any charger", hit OK. Now add an action to Activate Profile, and choose the profile you made above.
Bam! When plugged into the charger, the screen timeout goes to never, and the screen stays bright, unplug it and time out goes back to whatever you had it set at!
I have been using this for about 10 min now so I'm a rookie but it seems to be working! Make sure if you screw around in it that you don't accidentally disable the rule (I did that because I tried to make another and the Lite won't let you make 2 rules, and it disabled the first one. Just had to long press to enable it again)
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Worked like a charm! Thanks!
spalding1028 said:
I had the same problem. After some searching I found this over on android forums and it's working like a champ for me. Hope this helps! (I don't think there's any system setting that will change this, unfortunately)
Download the app "Setting Profiles Lite". Lite is free and only lets you create 1 rule at a time, but multiple profiles (Actions you want it to do when the rule is happening)
1. Create a profile that simply changes the screen time out to "Screen Never Times out" Save it as whatever name you want.
2. Create a rule. Under conditions add a condition for Battery that when "plugged into any charger", hit OK. Now add an action to Activate Profile, and choose the profile you made above.
Bam! When plugged into the charger, the screen timeout goes to never, and the screen stays bright, unplug it and time out goes back to whatever you had it set at!
I have been using this for about 10 min now so I'm a rookie but it seems to be working! Make sure if you screw around in it that you don't accidentally disable the rule (I did that because I tried to make another and the Lite won't let you make 2 rules, and it disabled the first one. Just had to long press to enable it again)
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2 years later and this still works like a charm. THANKS.
Is there a permanent fix to kill the ongoing wifi notification that shows up from time to time?
Go to settings, tap WiFi, tap the 3 dots in the upper right corner, select "advanced," and uncheck "notify me."
that doesnt do it. I've got it unchecked but that notification is still there. unchecking it does, however, stop apps from telling you there's wifi around
That's what I figured they were talking about. If you don't want any wifi notifications at all then you will have to flash custom roms that have it disabled, if you are unlocked.
No permanent fix yet, but long press the notification, then select app info, then force close will prevent it until the next reboot. Works well enough for me.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Thank y'all for your response.
@Thefireballkid: That's what I have been doing. Since One is still being played around, its rebooted (at least once a day) and that wifi-notification pop-up is very annoying. Anyway, thanks for confirming.
P.S. am on bonestock ROM, so I guess I should request @andybones to take care of this Verizon's bug/feature However, being a new member, am not allowed to post/request in the VHO Android Development thread.
I have seen in other threads that people use tasker to turn of their tablet when there is no power, for example when you turn of ignition in cars etc.
I want to do the same, since it will be getting cold here in a couple of months. This together with fastboot, will be good. But i see no option in tasker to turn off the tablet completely when there is no power present?
Anyone want to help me out?
edit; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657308
Here you can see someone used tasker to turn off tablet completely
henrikrox said:
I have seen in other threads that people use tasker to turn of their tablet when there is no power, for example when you turn of ignition in cars etc.
I want to do the same, since it will be getting cold here in a couple of months. This together with fastboot, will be good. But i see no option in tasker to turn off the tablet completely when there is no power present?
Anyone want to help me out?
edit; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657308
Here you can see someone used tasker to turn off tablet completely
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I hope you're familiar with how Tasker works. If not, please read some basic tutorials.
Create a new profile State->Power->Power
On the State edit leave the Source as Any and tick the Invert box, so this works when it is not charging.
Create a new task and add a new action System->Reboot
On the Action edit view there is a Type selector, when you tap it you're presented with a list of different options, one of those is shutdown, select it and that's it.
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I hope you're familiar with how Tasker works. If not, please read some basic tutorials.
Create a new profile State->Power->Power
On the State edit leave the Source as Any and tick the Invert box, so this works when it is not charging.
Create a new task and add a new action System->Reboot
On the Action edit view there is a Type selector, when you tap it you're presented with a list of different options, one of those is shutdown, select it and that's it.
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Thank you, only problem is system reboot is red here and says unavailable for me, i already rooted using geohots method, do i need to do more?
nvm, i haven't installed superuser
im so stupid
Thank you so much for answering me Really appreciate it