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Android G2-My video on current Stuff on the G2/Just staying up to date .

Hello all this is my first post so don't burn me so fast ok. Well i got tired of doing YOUTUBE searches on the G2 and clicking this month in search option and still people are still making videos on Unboxing/Temp-Root. But to help some out with flashing issues or anything else I made this.So with that said I just wanted to brush up on a couple of things that are current and going on with the phone. And maybe it will help some people out. For those who already are ahead of the game I tip my hat to you Im not a pro but if I was saying anything wrong Im sure you won't wait to correct me. Hope you like. PS I have the up most respect for XDA and all developers and peoples personal opinions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfOxxntYTos

I honestly can't believe I sat and watched that. Haha. ah.
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I applaud for the time making this video however, REALLY? Information is knowledge and this video lacks information. Unprofessional and very amateur. In my opinion, this video was made just to get hits. Don't mean to burn so hard but let's at least have a script before shooting a video. Improv is not the best when you're lost for words. I would try again. It has potential. Get info, a script and a plan and you could have a very informative video on the "G2 baby"
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Here is my opinion. I understand that this site is for developers and those with some knowledge of android development. Well with the rise of android os in the marketplace there will be an increase of casual mobile phone users who wish to learn more about their phones. For those that have an intrest in rooting their device and flashing custom roms without even knowing what root is, this vid would be great. Xda app is now mainstream. So for those of u who feel superior because of your immense knowledge and hacking skills, just remember that there are those of us on this site that rely on you for our mods. Choppa will improve as he gains more knowledge on basic computing. He should be encouraged. and we need hackers with swagger. G2 all day erry day son. Yeaaaaaaah. Ya gots ta root it before ya boot it. Rooted booted and scoooted g2 baby. Yeaaaaaaaaah. More fiyaaaaaaaaaa.
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Not to be racist or anything but, are you a canadian?
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[REQ] GNexus (SPLASH SCREEN)

I'm wondering if anyone has had any success at cracking the Samsung Galaxy Nexus SPLASH SCREEN? I've read many forums saying its in ram disk, kernel, etc but in my Android experience(13 devices) I've found the the SPLASH SCREEN is usually in the bootloader. It also confirms this theory b/c when you OEM unlock the GN is when you get the "unlocked" icon which is done via bootloader. I'm willing to donate a nice chunk of change to anyone who has the first clue as to how to accomplish this task. I'm no "nOOb" to android or developing so, I CAN be of assistance... just need a general push in the right direction. Again, I'm willing to put the $$ out for this and hope others will join in to create a rather large pot for the achievement of this MOD.
"Just do it"

Try checking out this thread, it might have some hints.

Thanks, but I already went through that thread.
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Clemzon said:
I'm wondering if anyone has had any success at cracking the Samsung Galaxy Nexus SPLASH SCREEN? I've read many forums saying its in ram disk, kernel, etc but in my Android experience(13 devices) I've found the the SPLASH SCREEN is usually in the bootloader. It also confirms this theory b/c when you OEM unlock the GN is when you get the "unlocked" icon which is done via bootloader. I'm willing to donate a nice chunk of change to anyone who has the first clue as to how to accomplish this task. I'm no "nOOb" to android or developing so, I CAN be of assistance... just need a general push in the right direction. Again, I'm willing to put the $$ out for this and hope others will join in to create a rather large pot for the achievement of this MOD.
"Just do it"
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yes it's likely the bootloader. but I personally wouldn't want to risk messing with the bootloader. I kinda like the google logo.
to each his own I guess

Becoming more involved

I'm inspired. I'm inspired by all the great work that is done here. I'm going to teach myself how to theme; starting with creating a skin for sense. I have no idea if this is easier or harder than creating an aosp theme, but I'm gonna jump in head first and hope I don't get too bloody.
Can I get some advice from some of you guys on the direction I should take? What to avoid, etc.
Thanks in advance.
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I personally think the skins are easier than the theme chooser apks to an extent. The trickiest to get at times can be the .9's. Once you get them it's not bad at all. Finding things in the xmls can be a challenge at times too. Each one has its own challenges though (sense and aosp) ... It's just a matter of seeing where everything is and goes. Feel free to pm me if I can be of any help.
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CondemnedSoul said:
I personally think the skins are easier than the theme chooser apks to an extent. The trickiest to get at times can be the .9's. Once you get them it's not bad at all. Finding things in the xmls can be a challenge at times too. Each one has its own challenges though (sense and aosp) ... It's just a matter of seeing where everything is and goes. Feel free to pm me if I can be of any help.
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I sent you a pm, its not showing up in my sent messages though.
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thenaut said:
I sent you a pm, its not showing up in my sent messages though.
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that's the default i believe you have to turn on a setting to make them appear in sent. btw if you do decide to make a cm9 theme can you make a blue glassy transparent one? thanks

kevdliu said:
that's the default i believe you have to turn on a setting to make them appear in sent. btw if you do decide to make a cm9 theme can you make a blue glassy transparent one? thanks
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Since I don't know what I'm doing yet, you'll be waiting awhile.
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I might be adventuring into the theming world to start myself off as well. I am in the middle of changing jobs and I have two whole weeks to chillax starting Monday. :beer:
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Here's the the thing, I know how to do it now. It takes a whole lot of time though. Knowing myself like I do; I can picture giving up out of frustration.
Anyway, I still want to do it.
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thenaut said:
Here's the the thing, I know how to do it now. It takes a whole lot of time though. Knowing myself like I do; I can picture giving up out of frustration.
Anyway, I still want to do it.
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The end result makes it all worth it

Final update on this. I've resigned to the fact that this stuff is too time consuming for me to get into. I can however take comfort in knowing that I am good at other things.
I will remain a constant lurker to this forum, and an answerer of questions that have already been answered for noobs who can't read.
Thanks, everyone, for your time.
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Has anyone looked at this guide? I bookmarked it a while ago and haven't had the time to sit down and go through it...but it seems like a good place to start.
[Guide]Complete Android ROM development and essential tutorials ~~ By Nero Young ~~

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Has anyone looked at this guide? I bookmarked it a while ago and haven't had the time to sit down and go through it...but it seems like a good place to start.
[Guide]Complete Android ROM development and essential tutorials ~~ By Nero Young ~~
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I read that one, and many others. It's not a lack of knowledge that is keeping me from this, however i know nothing about code, it is really just a lack of motivation, time, and energy. and being a dev is a somewhat thankless position. for as many thanks as they get they get just many F U 's, why does GSM no work, blah blah blah. i have a ton of respect for them, they get **** on constantly.

thenaut said:
I read that one, and many others. It's not a lack of knowledge that is keeping me from this, however i know nothing about code, it is really just a lack of motivation, time, and energy. and being a dev is a somewhat thankless position. for as many thanks as they get they get just many F U 's, why does GSM no work, blah blah blah. i have a ton of respect for them, they get **** on constantly.
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Agreed. It would be nice to give back a little more than "this works/doesn't work", sometimes I feel like I am a p.i.t.a.
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thenaut said:
I read that one, and many others. It's not a lack of knowledge that is keeping me from this, however i know nothing about code, it is really just a lack of motivation, time, and energy. and being a dev is a somewhat thankless position. for as many thanks as they get they get just many F U 's, why does GSM no work, blah blah blah. i have a ton of respect for them, they get **** on constantly.
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lol, it does seem that way at times
when releasing work (be it roms/themes/kernels/mods) except to get **** on by a small handful of people via posts or pm's...and have people ignore your previous posts and answers (or in my case a faq section) and ask the same question 9000 times in a thread
most of us do it cuz we like it and have the time for it...there are those clearly in it for the donation$ and glory (i can think of a handful of them off the top of my head....and it would probably surprise you) but thats crap imo
its always nice to see people want to get involved or try to do so...but usually the most prohibitive factor is time...it takes awhile to get familiar with this stuff, and even longer to work on it

nitsuj17 said:
lol, it does seem that way at times
when releasing work (be it roms/themes/kernels/mods) except to get **** on by a small handful of people via posts or pm's...and have people ignore your previous posts and answers (or in my case a faq section) and ask the same question 9000 times in a thread
most of us do it cuz we like it and have the time for it...there are those clearly in it for the donation$ and glory (i can think of a handful of them off the top of my head....and it would probably surprise you) but thats crap imo
its always nice to see people want to get involved or try to do so...but usually the most prohibitive factor is time...it takes awhile to get familiar with this stuff, and even longer to work on it
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Exactly my friend. I am super lazy at stuff like this, but this time around I really have no time, with my grad work and all. And, for whatever reason, I ALWAYS take forever to do the simplest things in coding... So, something that may take an hour for you, may easily take me 5-8 hours and it is NOT because of me being new to this. Even in projects where I knew what I was doing, I am very slow at coding and I don't know why... So, given the severe lack of time, now is not a good time for an android project. I wish I had an android phone a few years back, when I was much more free and really searching for things to do... I ended up making a toy app for my iPod Touch... That was really fun! But, I could tell that I was bad at it too! :/

Help start DEVing

Hey guys. Now that the SGIII is out, I fear we will loose great developers to the bigger and better devices. This is the reason I want to start developing for our SGH-T989's. There's only one problem... I'M A NOOB! Well I've been rooting my phones since I got my first Andriod device, the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. Although that's just because I've trolled around just reading threads. So I'd like a little guidance in the right direction. Remeber I'm completely new at this. The only thing I know I need is that I need Linux. Besides that I know nothing else. Thanks guys for all the time and effort you put into providing us with awesome roms, kernels, etc.

tyoder87 said:
Hey guys. Now that the SGIII is out, I fear we will loose great developers to the bigger and better devices. This is the reason I want to start developing for our SGH-T989's. There's only one problem... I'M A NOOB! Well I've been rooting my phones since I got my first Andriod device, the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. Although that's just because I've trolled around just reading threads. So I'd like a little guidance in the right direction. Remeber I'm completely new at this. The only thing I know I need is that I need Linux. Besides that I know nothing else. Thanks guys for all the time and effort you put into providing us with awesome roms, kernels, etc.
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GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!! I too am a noob but I started at Google I know c language, I just don't have the bandwidth to download the some 10 gigs of source code.
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I'm in the same boat. Unless you have a formal education in programming, expect a tough road. I know some c/c++ but most of my knowledge is in web development languages like PHP, JavaScript, etc.
I successfully built and flashed my own CM9 a few days ago but have yet to get into the customization. Baby steps I guess. Good luck to you though.
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But seriously check out Google there are oodles of tutorials for people who are just starting out to get their computer set up .
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Well I'll say I would like to start myself. I keep looking around have all the bottom end fundamentals but have no clue as to what to do. I can read on Google til wee hrs of the night but it makes no sense being the word NOOB is carried on my back.
Either way, all I've done so far is download all the req software that dsixda recommends to do. Kitchen, cygwin, jdk, and sdk. Now after all of that I'm stuck in limbo. All the research I've done gives terminology that I don't understand. Everyone says its super easy but yet we have maybe 30 devs packed up doing roms for us. I know for a fact there's more than 3000 T-Mobile users for this device and that's not to include the very alike SR, telus, and what not.
So I agree, we need things simplified in order for us to understand (even) basics. That being said as I asked a few ppl in this forum already, I don't mind getting my feet wet but I sure in hell dont wanna drown at the 3 foot section of the pool either
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Go to the android and android dev forums. You will find nice Rom and kernel tutorials to mess with. The rest comes with trying out others hacks and mods and seeing what those do. Then down to log cats and so forth to see how an application or module plays. And if you want to try your own mod, it's too what others have done or code Google to see what a lib,api, or module can do for you.

datrapstar said:
Well I'll say I would like to start myself. I keep looking around have all the bottom end fundamentals but have no clue as to what to do. I can read on Google til wee hrs of the night but it makes no sense being the word NOOB is carried on my back.
Either way, all I've done so far is download all the req software that dsixda recommends to do. Kitchen, cygwin, jdk, and sdk. Now after all of that I'm stuck in limbo. All the research I've done gives terminology that I don't understand. Everyone says its super easy but yet we have maybe 30 devs packed up doing roms for us. I know for a fact there's more than 3000 T-Mobile users for this device and that's not to include the very alike SR, telus, and what not.
So I agree, we need things simplified in order for us to understand (even) basics. That being said as I asked a few ppl in this forum already, I don't mind getting my feet wet but I sure in hell dont wanna drown at the 3 foot section of the pool either
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Well it's pretty much setting up all the requirements like computer paths and folders. I use Ubuntu, then after getting all of it setup, you repo sync the source and wait a couple days there are simplified English friendly tutorials. Using a search engine is a skill. ^-^ choose search terms wisely. And use quotes.
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datrapstar said:
Well I'll say I would like to start myself. I keep looking around have all the bottom end fundamentals but have no clue as to what to do. I can read on Google til wee hrs of the night but it makes no sense being the word NOOB is carried on my back.
Either way, all I've done so far is download all the req software that dsixda recommends to do. Kitchen, cygwin, jdk, and sdk. Now after all of that I'm stuck in limbo. All the research I've done gives terminology that I don't understand. Everyone says its super easy but yet we have maybe 30 devs packed up doing roms for us. I know for a fact there's more than 3000 T-Mobile users for this device and that's not to include the very alike SR, telus, and what not.
So I agree, we need things simplified in order for us to understand (even) basics. That being said as I asked a few ppl in this forum already, I don't mind getting my feet wet but I sure in hell don't wanna drown at the 3 foot section of the pool either
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I tried the dsixda kitchen route. It's more of a "look what I did" kind of thing. I quickly jumped that ship and set up Ubuntu so I could get my repo on. I have complete AOKP and CM9 source but I have no idea where to start with it. I'm sort of treading water at this point until I find the right information to get this train rolling.
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bobpantsspongesquare said:
I tried the dsixda kitchen route. It's more of a "look what I did" kind of thing. I quickly jumped that ship and set up Ubuntu so I could get my repo on. I have complete AOKP and CM9 source but I have no idea where to start with it. I'm sort of treading water at this point until I find the right information to get this train rolling.
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I also have a partition set up for Ubuntu. Issue is I can't get it to connect to the internet. Then again I'm on a modded dell studio. Like I said, I got all the start up software. All I need is someone yo guide of how to set up. I cant do it if I'm on Ubuntu due to lack of connection. So if anything , let's make a thread to help each other out. ( not that I would be much help) but once I learn something I can pass along info to the next person. We all learn and want to share
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datrapstar said:
I also have a partition set up for Ubuntu. Issue is I can't get it to connect to the internet. Then again I'm on a modded dell studio. Like I said, I got all the start up software. All I need is someone yo guide of how to set up. I cant do it if I'm on Ubuntu due to lack of connection. So if anything , let's make a thread to help each other out. ( not that I would be much help) but once I learn something I can pass along info to the next person. We all learn and want to share
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I run Ubuntu through Virtualbox. It works great and you don't have to deal with boot loaders and such. I've had no internet connection issues either. After that, following one of the guides for setting Ubuntu up for Android is advisable. I've been through the Android Developers Guide, the AOKP ICS Guide ( Jelly Bean Guide ) and the CM9 Guide. Any of these will get you the source code and a working, flashable zip. Beyond that, at least for now, I'm not much help.

bobpantsspongesquare said:
I run Ubuntu through Virtualbox. It works great and you don't have to deal with boot loaders and such. I've had no internet connection issues either. After that, following one of the guides for setting Ubuntu up for Android is advisable. I've been through the Android Developers Guide, the AOKP ICS Guide ( Jelly Bean Guide ) and the CM9 Guide. Any of these will get you the source code and a working, flashable zip. Beyond that, at least for now, I'm not much help.
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Thats a start tho... so here we got it started, let's lend a hand to each other and let's start doing this. Myself, I'm jealous of the SR forum cuz it seems they are helping each other build amongst themselves which is what I think we should be doing here as well. So to get virtual box and get sum research on it. Will come back here after I get all situated. Once again thanks for opening this up
edit: as I make any progress I will post up and let you guys know how Im coming along. on my laptop now about to get this rolling.
reedit: well cant do much, my set up doesnt support it. i will find a way tho. best believe it. even if it cost me to get another laptop
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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Stop the insanity

So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.

couldn't agree more. what the devs do has taken a lot of work to make stable(ish) for everyone but it can STILL screw your **** up. so people need to be careful.
http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...9-basic-commands-newcomers-adb.html#post28883
theres a link that was useful for me, hopefully useful for others. further reading material, is what i guess i can say about it.

^ Can't believe I posted one of "those" threads. Lame.
Edit: just tried to thank you, but I'm thanked out for the day apparently.

If they can't read the original thread, you expect them to read this one?

its a nice thought, but roots back to RTFM, those that should never do

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So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.
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I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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akira02rex said:
I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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Yeah, not even sure why I wasted time posting that. I'm the sucker. Was somewhat entertaining in a way to see the lemmings jump off the cliff though.
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Flashing has become so easy anyone can do it. That's a problem because once they run into a problem they don't know what to do.
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Well... From this, they will learn eventually, from to 0 to 1. So they know about the technology of their device rather than just using it. People need to learn...
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this is the reason why i always tell ppl not to spoon-feed noobs answers, cuz they wont learn anything and will only mess up their phones and then beg for help by creating useless threads or post in dev threads..on the other hand if ppl didnt answer their question they will be forced to read and learn thus no more useless threads/posts

After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Haha that's why I stopped helping people in Q+A. I used to help with the whole "Help I'm bricked" topics. Not anymore. My opinion is don't mess with root system files than CAN brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing or at least how to recover from it manually should a problem arise. Let em sweat it before they finally search and figure out ADB. Which they will. Their first instinct is to come and just ask for help. After an hour of 0 replies and the need to use their phone now, they will search and they will find what they need. Not that it matters because you have people here saying just use the toolkit to fix it. Almost every single thread in Q+A has at least one use a toolkit reply.
Idk to be honest I just stopped giving a damn about anyone but me lol. If I tried to help every single person boot looping I'll be on XDA 24/7. I got a nexus, I jumped the gun & used a toolkit. I boot looped. I searched and I figured out what I needed to do to get back up & running. As far as I'm concerned let them do the same. That's the way it is today. Everyone wants to be spoonfed. They only want the end result, but don't wanna work for it.
Apple - Innovating new ways to take your money

Well if they brick their own phone, because what they do to it. They will be learn their lesson,...
Once i brick my tab... Then i learn from that to understand the process... About ask for help in web? ... That's out of question.. The only one left is... You and you brick phone.. Since that,i always looking many source of knowledge before do something to my phone..
Anyway android is open source isn't it? If people want to learn.. Why not..? Or it's just change like corporate, monopoly only for certain people...
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Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.

Uhm. I think this is just another proof of the tiny minded humanity. Doing stuff without knowing a single bit or without thinking about consequences. Just like war. Making it without having a single idea.
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woody296 said:
Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.
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I for one was thinking of instances where I knew what was in the OP :cyclops:
My Android knowledge is debatable and it goes without saying that my intelligence is highly debatable.

swimdude1120 said:
After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.

fish1552 said:
Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.
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I agree they're not bad at all. People just shouldn't be so fearful of, or think that learning, terminal commands is hard. Posts like the one that was linked are a great starting point, thanks for taking the time to author that post. They can pick up where the toolkits leave off when someone's in trouble.

It kinda frustrates me too. The only reason why I have a low post count is because I know how to search and I can get my self out of pretty much any sticky situation with experience/searching. I don't understand why people automatically blame the dev for something they didn't know what was going on in the first place. I have maybe a 1/10 of the issues everyone else posts because I do the proper steps before hand or I go into it knowing what is already broke. If it is an unstable ROM then why bother complaining, you should know that not everything is going to be perfect.

Same here on the posting count. I read about what I'm going to do, can't afford to brick and buy a new phone.
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