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i was juss curious as to how other Rhodium owners have their Android setup. As far as looks go. Ive went thru a lot of different UI's already looking for the most stable one. Im Currently running the: Crazy Home Lite, FreedHome, Home(default), TagHome, and ZEAM. All of those are very customizable. Some let u use the Live wallpapers, and some dont. Some will even let u have up to 9 different screens, if u choose. it goes on and on on the type of mods u can do. |ike my AOSP build looks alot better n slicker thn some of these Sense ones. Its just the way i customized it, thats all.
So what are u using? or what have u done? Screenshots, even better..lol
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Stock vanilla 2.1. home & launcher. I would like to get ADW launcher to work though. Those home replacement apps are lame. I had a phase where I would test every new home replacement app, but I always found that a decent modded launcher and stock home was the best combo. Most modded launchers will let you choose the number of home screens and which to set as the default. So many mods that I haven't been able to get working on this build. Wysie's contacts, ADW Launcher, now pushing Meltus' volume hack as I type.
I'm just waiting for the Evo 4G and Galaxy S to launch to make my decision on what phone to get. I'm not disparaging the TP2, I just obviously need Android on a native device. I need options.
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Stock vanilla 2.1. home & launcher. I would like to get ADW launcher to work though. Those home replacement apps are lame. I had a phase where I would test every new home replacement app, but I always found that a decent modded launcher and stock home was the best combo. Most modded launchers will let you choose the number of home screens and which to set as the default. So many mods that I haven't been able to get working on this build. Wysie's contacts, ADW Launcher, now pushing Meltus' volume hack as I type.
I'm just waiting for the Evo 4G and Galaxy S to launch to make my decision on what phone to get. I'm not disparaging the TP2, I just obviously need Android on a native device. I need options.
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The hottest, most advanced phone coming out is the Dell Streak. It drops this summer or september. Its a fully fledged 5 in Tablet PC with Capacitive touch screen, multitouch, Cam on the front and back(dual cam), 5in screen, Snapdragon processor, has latest bluetooth, wifi, and check this 3G CONNECTIVITY YEAHHHHHHHH....which means i can juss plop my sim in there and im good to go because its also a phone but being marketed as a Fully capable Tablet PC. My pops getting the EVO soon. ive been trying to school him on it and this website.
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Stock vanilla 2.1. home & launcher. I would like to get ADW launcher to work though. Those home replacement apps are lame. I had a phase where I would test every new home replacement app, but I always found that a decent modded launcher and stock home was the best combo. Most modded launchers will let you choose the number of home screens and which to set as the default. So many mods that I haven't been able to get working on this build. Wysie's contacts, ADW Launcher, now pushing Meltus' volume hack as I type.
I'm just waiting for the Evo 4G and Galaxy S to launch to make my decision on what phone to get. I'm not disparaging the TP2, I just obviously need Android on a native device. I need options.
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haved u ever tried to use the MetaMorph? i tried but it says i need busybox. if u look n the system file processes or whatever, we already have busybox or some version of it already installed in our builds. Its just not active or i dont know how to activate it to use it.
Yeah, I used MetaMorph to theme some parts of some former builds. I haven't tried it on the TP2 though.
I'm pretty sure busybox is in AOSP. Try running just "busybox" in terminal, you'll see that it at least is loaded. Whether it works fully or not, I haven't been able to confirm. I actually used some busybox commands when I was pushing the .csv volume hacks earlier today, but again, that didn't work.
yeah, ive seen it in my AOSP. Just havent been able to activate or use it to allow Metamorph to wrk. Metamorph keeps telling me i need busybox..figures..lol
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yeah, ive seen it in my AOSP. Just havent been able to activate or use it to allow Metamorph to wrk. Metamorph keeps telling me i need busybox..figures..lol
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I love AOSP.
Sense is a waste of resource for me--eye candy without significant UI improvement.
I have been messing around with the LCD density settings on a few ICS ROMs for a little while now and after a lot of trial and error, I thought i'd share my experiences. I did some digging and I didn't see a formal write-up on this for our phones so I thought I'd give this a shot. (if anyone feels this has common knowledge and unnecessary, please just let me know and i will delete. also, I never tried this back on GB)
General Info for Beginners:
As you may already know, the standard resolution for our screens is 800 x 480 pixels. This is far below that of HD or even qHD screens. What this means in terms of real world use is that icons and text appear very large. Given our devices have a large 4.5 inch screen, it is arguable that this is not taking full advantage of all the extra screen real estate. While you cannot change the native resolution of a screen, you can do a simple build.prop tweak that can "trick" your phone into thinking that the resolution is much higher via a few simple programs.
How-To Change the Density Setting:
There are multiple programs out there for this purpose but I have found the best results with "ROM Toolbox". Feel free to buy the full version to support the dev but if all you are looking to do is change the density setting, the lite version will do just fine.
1. download and install "ROM Toolbox" from the Google Play Store
2. go to the "Performance" tab
3. click "build.prop tweaks"
4. change the "LCD Density" slider to whatever DPI you like
5. reboot
As mentioned, there are multiple programs out there but from my experience, DO NOT USE "LCD DENSITY MODDER" from the play store. This seems to soft-brick our phones as well as other GSII variants based on other reviews I've read and there does not seem to be a resolution at this time. This caused issues for me on TW-based and AOSP ROMS. It's a shame too, it seems perfect for this task, especially considering it can install a hacked Play Store (more on that later)
To see a more detailed thread on LCD Density Modder, go here (thanks kobridge!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1570893
What Setting to Choose:
This is matter of personal opinion, but I personally like 190 dpi (stock setting is 240). Many people swear by using 160 dpi but personally the icons and text are too small for my poor eyesight. I suggest starting from about 200 or so and working your way down. Remember, the lower the number, the smaller your icons/text will appear but will also give you more screen real estate
You may also notice that text and icons appear less sharp when messing with these settings. Keep in mind that because you are not truly changing your screen resolution, the translation will not be perfect. Personally, given the natural sharpness of AMOLED screens, i think most people while not be bothered by this or even notice
Some users like elliwigy have reported FC issues when going below 190 DPI. If you want to go lower than this, I suggest you search for the thread that has a modded phone.apk that can help with this issue
Potential Issues and Workarounds:
You will inevitably run into some compatibility issues so here are few final thoughts
Which ROM to use?
TouchWiz-based Roms: All roms based on stock Samsung TW for the E4GT were written with only the native resolution in mind. This means that certain apps will not scale well with a higher resolution and two particular ones come to mind:
- The Phone Dialer: The dialer looks like small box that fills up only a portion of the screen. To resolve, use an aftermarket dialer app like "exDialer" from the play store (thanks tenazrael!)
- TW E-mail App: The TW e-mail app (not gmail) also doesn't scale well. Instead, delete and install the AOSP e-mail apk.
AOSP ROMs: CM9 and AOKP handle the conversion a bit better. You won't run into the dialer or e-mail issue like with TW ROMs but there are still some bugs.
- Certain pictures of contacts may show up as way too zoomed in, i.e. messaging notification pictures or the favorites tab (thanks locoboi187!)
- Other aspects of the OS may become hard to read when scaled down so much, i.e. lock screen add-on buttons (thanks phpracing!)
The Play Store Doesn't Show All Apps? - This is the biggest pain in the a$$ when you mess with the lcd density settings. There is a bug in the play store that prevents you from seeing certain apps when you change the settings away from default.
I have seen a few "hacked" versions of the vending.apk out there that makes the play store think you are always set to 240 but for some reason, this only works for a little while.
Here are the steps to get the market working again:
1. Change LCD Density back to stock (240)
2. Reboot to take effect
3. Clear the data for the Google Play Store AND Google Services Framework
4. Open the Play Store app and you should see everything again
5. Change LCD density back to whatever you like.
6. Reboot
I know this is a bit cumbersome but it's the best solution for now. I haven't quite nailed down what triggers the market to "break" but hopefully you won't have to do this fix too often. In opinion, this annoyance is worth it.
To see a more detailed thread on this topic, go here (thanks kobridge!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1529227
Everything Looks Too "Stretched Out"? - Having an aftermarket launcher will help with this tremendously. I personally use Apex Launcher and there are some settings you can change to make the proportions look better
1. Homescreen Settings: Change the Vertical and Horizontal margins to medium or large
2. Dock Settings: Same as above.
You may also want to mess with different grid configurations now that you have extra room but i prefer to leave mine at the default 4 x 4
And that's it. I hope this will help you out so that you won't have to go through all the trial and error I did. I promise you, after you do this, it will be impossible for you to go back to the stock resolution (everything looks HUGE)
... and for those who care, here are some screen shots and the stock e-mail app
I've found 190-200 to be the sweet spot for me no matter which rom I use. It's nice, but isn't as nice as native 720p.
Tis a pity pentile was chosen for the GN over samoled+ makes it so one must choose between awesome colors or sweet, tight rez.
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Tis a pity pentile was chosen for the GN over samoled+ makes it so one must choose between awesome colors or sweet, tight rez.
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Amen
For those people who are interested - I am currently using LCD Resolution app from the Market store to keep my phone at 200. Anything less bothers me in some way or another.
In regards to the Dialer/Contacts being off center, I use an app called exDialer + exDialer ICS theme which scales perfectly. I then use an app called Holo Launcher which I believe beats Zeam, Go, and Launcher Pro hands down! This also scales perfectly. Finally, I am running the latest Blazer ROM on GB EL29.
The Market bug is very annoying, but I'm continually doing research on how to get past it.
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For those people who are interested - I am currently using LCD Resolution app from the Market store to keep my phone at 200. Anything less bothers me in some way or another.
In regards to the Dialer/Contacts being off center, I use an app called exDialer + exDialer ICS theme which scales perfectly. I then use an app called Holo Launcher which I believe beats Zeam, Go, and Launcher Pro hands down! This also scales perfectly. Finally, I am running the latest Blazer ROM on GB EL29.
The Market bug is very annoying, but I'm continually doing research on how to get past it.
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Thank you for the dialer tip! I will update OP with this info. This is very useful knowledge. I started using AOSP roms to avoid annoying dialer bug so this may lead me to rethink what ROM i use and go back to TW based
At any lower dpi the messaging notification picture icon looks zoomed on CM9. I tried 160, 180, 195, 200
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im running cm9 a4 and this worked for me no problems. everything works the contacts and the dialer. not off center to me. i havent really messed around with the store yet but seemed good to me. the only thing i saw that was a little out of place and i dont think it is the tweak is the favorites icons. i use the favorites alot seeing as i only really call the same 6-7 people. does the contact/dialer app fix this?
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im running cm9 a4 and this worked for me no problems. everything works the contacts and the dialer. not off center to me. i havent really messed around with the store yet but seemed good to me. the only thing i saw that was a little out of place and i dont think it is the tweak is the favorites icons. i use the favorites alot seeing as i only really call the same 6-7 people. does the contact/dialer app fix this?
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i guarantee you that you'll see my problem listed above. Reproduceable.
Thanks for re-editing.
LCD Modder issue -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570893
Market download -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529227
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Is that a galaxy nexus or did you just change the dpi.
Also with the changes. The lock screen add on buttons (top, right, and left options) are very tiny. I didn't even notice them until I took a good look at it. Again don't think this is a problem, just a product of the modification.
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My experience on any rom is phone fc's on any setting below 190 without modded phone.apk.. havent had any issues with market or anything when set to 190 in rom toolbox on any rom.. also if interested in native lcd changing support paranoid android is awesome! Not only does it have tablet mode it also has hybrid mode where you can change global density and even density per app while in hybrid mode
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thanks for the feedback everyone. again, i will update OP with the info
kobridge - thanks for the links to your posts. i didn't see these but will link in the OP for those who want more info.
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Is that a galaxy nexus or did you just change the dpi.
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just changed the DPI (don't own the GN, only E4GT). At the time of the screen shots, i was running CM9a5 with apex launcher set at 190 DPI
I didn't feel like reading the previous post but here's how to fix play store dpi issue. Steps 1 & 2 can be done in either order. Doesn't matter. Just be sure to change dpi before market updates
1) set your dpi
2) uninstall all data and updates to market.
3) reboot phone let play store update.
4) where did my dpi compatability issue go?
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I didn't feel like reading the previous post but here's how to fix play store dpi issue. Steps 1 & 2 can be done in either order. Doesn't matter. Just be sure to change dpi before market updates
1) set your dpi
2) uninstall all data and updates to market.
3) reboot phone let play store update.
4) where did my dpi compatability issue go?
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I've tried both OP's solution and your solution, but neither is working, guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It'll be a pain, but whenever I need to download something from the Play Store, I'll have to sit with 240 dpi for a bit, haha.
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I've tried both OP's solution and your solution, but neither is working, guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It'll be a pain, but whenever I need to download something from the Play Store, I'll have to sit with 240 dpi for a bit, haha.
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What ROM you using?
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lucentflame said:
I've tried both OP's solution and your solution, but neither is working, guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It'll be a pain, but whenever I need to download something from the Play Store, I'll have to sit with 240 dpi for a bit, haha.
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That's odd. I forgot to mention u gotta wipe Google frameworks also. But its how I fix my issue. It works on cm9 and blazer 4.1
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Shoulon said:
That's odd. I forgot to mention u gotta wipe Google frameworks also. But its how I fix my issue. It works on cm9 and blazer 4.1
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Yes, the "trick" doesn't work for me either until i wipe google services framework.
On a side note, wipe the google services framework FIRST, then the play store. If you do the GSF last, you sometimes get a weird "server error" when you open up the play store
Hey everybody
One of the most useful mods I have performed on my Note 2 is a PPI adjustment, which effectively increases the resolution of the screen. I'm not sure why this isn't more commonly discussed, because I think it really takes advantage of the phone's size and tablet-like qualities (especially with the new MultiView update, if that appeals to you). I know many users of the original Note did this mod, which is how I found out about it. I suspect that many other Note 2 users may not be aware of this trick...
WHAT IT DOES
It has the same effect as increasing one's monitor resolution - more content is able to be displayed on screen. If all the icons, text, menus, etc on your Note 2 just seem really BIG to you, this is the antidote.
Look at the two before and after screenshots attached. I would have posted them in line, but as a new user I am prohibited from doing so.
REQUIREMENTS
ROOTED Note 2 - there are other Howto's on XDA that cover this
ROM Toolbox Pro (other apps may work too, possibly including the free version of ROM Toolbox, but this is what I used)
HOW TO DO IT
Root your phone and install ROM Toolbox Pro. Go to the performance tab, and click "build.prop" editor. There will be two entries called "ro.sf.lcd_density"
Within each one, change the property value and the default value to 240. That's four numbers you're replacing. On the last change, go ahead and reboot. Done!
OTHER NOTES
With the original Note, it was common for this mod to break the Market. This is no longer the case. But, there are a few things that break to varying degrees. They're easy to fix though...
TouchWiz: The default launcher will not adapt to the new settings, and you will have a lot of blank space. Fix by installing another launcher. I use Nova.
The Clock app breaks completely. I replaced with Alarm Clock Plus.
The dialer, like TouchWiz, will remain small. You could replace with a custom dialer, but I actually left it as-is because a side effect is that it's really easy to use with one hand.
The Camera app has the same problem. Camera Zoom FX makes a good replacement.
the Samsung keyboard breaks, thus taking down handwriting input with it. Swype works fine, as does s-note.
Aside from those minor issues, everything has worked fine, including all the 3rd party apps I have.
Hope this is helpful to some of you guys.
Seriously, this phone is amazing at 240
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I have been using this since I first got my phone.
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This is great. One other app is the email app only takes half the screen on portrait. Really need to figure out how to install the AOSP JB Email app on here....
Another benefit is Swiftkey Tablet keyboard now does the split keyboard on landscape which is easier to type on.
The only problem is that you can't use the handwriting mode with the stylus with the ppi set to 240 because the Samsung keyboard keeps fc'ing. That's my only complaint so far with this phone is that the handwriting mode is tied to the Samsung keyboard.
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I had problems with apps saying they weren't compatible with my device... cleared data in the market app... still no dice. Any insight?
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I'm not real fond of the way the dialer looks so I'm using Go Contacts which has a pretty good dialer.
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mrush said:
I had problems with apps saying they weren't compatible with my device... cleared data in the market app... still no dice. Any insight?
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The market is probably filtering since at this resolution it is probably now considered an x-large device.
Really like this resolution, will need to use for a while to see which apps decide to crap out.
you can also edit the build.prop with root explorer. If you edit the it to be =160 it switched to tablet mode, but crashes a lot
=170 i think its still tablet and doesn't crash
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The only problem is that you can't use the handwriting mode with the stylus with the ppi set to 240 because the Samsung keyboard keeps fc'ing. That's my only complaint so far with this phone is that the handwriting mode is tied to the Samsung keyboard.
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This is true. I forgot to mention and will update the original post. Hopefully devs will fix at some point.
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The market is probably filtering since at this resolution it is probably now considered an x-large device.
Really like this resolution, will need to use for a while to see which apps decide to crap out.
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To be honest, with jelly bean letting us choose "tiny" text now and the screen size being so big, I'm not as inclined to change the Res on this thing anymore... in the past with my S2 that was the first thing i would do whenever I flashed a new rom.
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installed, set to 170, put on nova launcher, and downloaded a jellybean keyboard. so far so good, but how do I get the "hold home to bring up all running apps back" feature? It looks like Nova doesn't support this...
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installed, set to 170, put on nova launcher, and downloaded a jellybean keyboard. so far so good, but how do I get the "hold home to bring up all running apps back" feature? It looks like Nova doesn't support this...
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Hmm, which rom are you using? I have stock rooted with nova and this feature still works.
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Hmm, which rom are you using? I have stock rooted with nova and this feature still works.
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Fixed the dialer problem for me just got exdialer it work great and looks good too!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..
Technically the Galaxy Note II does have a higher screen res than the Galaxy S III since the Note 2 does not have a pentile display. Paranoid Android in the future will also let you completely customize the size of everything on your phone without messing up the market due to DPI issues.
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Technically the Galaxy Note II does have a higher screen res than the Galaxy S III since the Note 2 does not have a pentile display. Paranoid Android in the future will also let you completely customize the size of everything on your phone without messing up the market due to DPI issues.
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Do you think PA will come to this phone? If so, it will be a great addition and will fit this device perfectly.
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anyone with issues sending MMS? I had taken a pic and tried to send MMS but got a unsupported file type or something like that and wont attach the picture. reverting back to 320dpi works.
hopefully the samsung keyboard will work with this in the future, it looks sooo much better with the dpi change .. specially with multi-view (although the menu and border of it doesnt stretch all the way across the screen).
bala gamer is hopefully going to take a shot at FIXING the bits that don't work right at 240dpi !! I especially hope he can fix the keyboard as I LOVE the keyboard.
for the multi window just drag the menu to the TOP OR BOTTOM edge and it displays correctly at 240dpi (the separator is not wide enough but thats not an issue)
Zoom FX is no good since it uses "smaller" images (really small) in burst mode NOT 8mp. I found that out the hard way after I shot some really nice shots and later discovered the res was so small it was useless to me
I am new to the whole flashing roms thing but managed to get cm10 on my phone. I have a few questions and also would like to know if there is a better rom. First question is why when I hold the home button there is no task manager just where I can switch to different apps? Second are these apps all running and draining my battery? Third is there a rom with a better camera app? I really liked the stock camera app that came with the phone but I know I can't get that? Another question is why can't I set the double home tap in cm10? I'd like that for voice search if there's a way. Last question I have is, is there a rom that is like the stock one that came with my phone but runs jelly bean? I know touchwiz has a lot of bloadware but I liked the overall options it had (camera app, task manager built into app switcher, etc). Thanks for all the help and sorry if I've posted in the wrong place I'm just looking for help.
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1) The task manager is part of TouchWiz (samsung twist on Android) and not part of the original android os. As far as I can tell, cyanogenmod tries to get close to clean android as possible.
2) When you hold the home button and see a list of apps, like ios, those are list of recently opened apps. They may or may not be running. In most cases its best to just leave it. Task managers, clearing ram, etc all of those don't really work. You can read/search why it doesn't. In short, you kill it, you either need to load it, or it loads by it self again (services)
3) Try looking for a better replacement for camera in the play store? Not really sure what you mean by better.
4) that's one thing I don't like about android; it doesn't have the ios activator identical. You can hold the menu button and it opens search. You can set another action with the menu button in CM10 by going to settings>system>hardware keys
5) I have personally tried a note ii and Galaxy S3 sprint port by the same dev. I'm on mobile so I won't be able to link you. Search for it
Best of luck
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I am new to the whole flashing roms thing but managed to get cm10 on my phone. I have a few questions and also would like to know if there is a better rom. First question is why when I hold the home button there is no task manager just where I can switch to different apps? Second are these apps all running and draining my battery? Third is there a rom with a better camera app? I really liked the stock camera app that came with the phone but I know I can't get that? Another question is why can't I set the double home tap in cm10? I'd like that for voice search if there's a way. Last question I have is, is there a rom that is like the stock one that came with my phone but runs jelly bean? I know touchwiz has a lot of bloadware but I liked the overall options it had (camera app, task manager built into app switcher, etc). Thanks for all the help and sorry if I've posted in the wrong place I'm just looking for help.
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Nooby to nooby lol...I was just going to try that cm10 rom but seeing what you wrote not sure I want too at this time but I think the current Rom I am using may be something you will like an enjoy..it's pretty much how the phone was stock.
All the options you asked about are still there, it's is just a bit more cleaned up and seems to run faster over stock, as of now I don't see any issues yet.
The link for the rom is below, make sure you back up and follow the op installation instruction, as this stuff is very confusing lol
Hope this helps
Serenity 1.2 gnote port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951115&goto=newpost
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Is it possible without needing to install a ROM? What I basically want is the ability to have the dockbar move to the bottom of the screen when I rotate it to landscape instead of staying on the short side like it currently does. I want my dockbar always along the bottom edge of the screen no matter what position I'm holding the tablet. Currently no launchers that I know of allow this as an option. Any ideas that don't involve ROMs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418867
This should do that until a new mods gets released .
You have to be rooted for this mod to work.
Hope that helps.
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I don't think real tablet UI has a dock. And a launcher like apex would give you the option to disable the dock like in larger tablets.
if you want true tablet ui, buy an iPad mini
What exactly do you mean with real tablet UI - the failed UI experiment from google in the past?
The N7 has the current tablet UI.
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What exactly do you mean with real tablet UI - the failed UI experiment from google in the past?
The N7 has the current tablet UI.
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The current N7 uses the phablet ui. He means the honeycomb like ui. Whether you consider it failed or not does not matter some (me included) prefer it.
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I prefer that tablet ui too... would love some insight if tablet ui is possible at all in a CarbonRom.
I like the Honeycomb look better as well. My biggest issue is that all of the apps from the play store are downloaded as the phone version, not the tablet version. I bought a tablet to have tablet apps, not phone apps - I don't care that the screen is only 7".
Honeycomb ui works fine for a tablet all operations takes place below the screen. Unlike this new ui were you always have to reach the notification area
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
stealthj said:
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
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Also a lot of wasted screen real estate on the N7 between the forced search bar and top & bottom bar.
stealthj said:
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
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You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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RyanTX said:
You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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Email the devs of the apps you buy and state your want to get a tablet version. easy peezy.
Revieww apps on the play store, state your opinion.
When people don't buy apps that devs spent lots of effort on, its discouraging.
stealthj said:
Email the devs of the apps you buy and state your want to get a tablet version. easy peezy.
Revieww apps on the play store, state your opinion.
When people don't buy apps that devs spent lots of effort on, its discouraging.
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It's nothing to do with the devs. It's the way the play store sees the nexus 7. USA today has a tablet version of their app. Directv has a tablet version. On the galaxy tab 8.9 for instance, I could get those. Maybe it's something to do with build.prop?
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RyanTX said:
It's nothing to do with the devs. It's the way the play store sees the nexus 7. USA today has a tablet version of their app. Directv has a tablet version. On the galaxy tab 8.9 for instance, I could get those. Maybe it's something to do with build.prop?
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OOoohhh I see I'm so sorry I misunderstood.
I saw that the USA app though says its for both phones and tablets. the direcTV one though , says not compatible with my device... of course we can always download the APK from somewhere but i think this calls for a petition to google to make sure we are getting the maximum experience on our devices.
the Wallet app I can understand, with the security thing and whatever but this? this is recidulous. and Now that You've mentioned it, I actally had a few apps on my nexus 10 which i cannot install on my nexus 7 (tablet apps)
weird right?
stealthj said:
OOoohhh I see I'm so sorry I misunderstood.
I saw that the USA app though says its for both phones and tablets. the direcTV one though , says not compatible with my device... of course we can always download the APK from somewhere but i think this calls for a petition to google to make sure we are getting the maximum experience on our devices.
the Wallet app I can understand, with the security thing and whatever but this? this is recidulous. and Now that You've mentioned it, I actally had a few apps on my nexus 10 which i cannot install on my nexus 7 (tablet apps)
weird right?
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Do you think we can edit the build prop or something to fool the play store into thinking we are using a nexus 10?
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tomarsenal said:
I don't think real tablet UI has a dock. And a launcher like apex would give you the option to disable the dock like in larger tablets.
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He's not talking about the launcher tablet ui. He's talking about the honeycomb style combines bar.
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RyanTX said:
You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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You DO get tablet apps if you want. Changes in DPI determine app layout. PA lets you choose DPI on an app to app basis without trashing your market. Meaning modifications to build.prop are broad and make your market think you are a tablet which for some apps is bad, so they don't do that.
Mandelbrot.Benoit said:
You DO get tablet apps if you want. Changes in DPI determine app layout.
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In most cases yes. However (for whatever reason) some companies/developers choose to publish two separate apps to the Play Store - one for phones and one for tablets, and unless your device is identified as a tablet the tablet version of the app is marked as incompatible (and the phone version doesn't include the tablet layout so it isn't available by dpi/layout changes).
Again, however, this is something that the app devs should be sorting - provide one apk that contains all layouts and the problem is solved (because then you can use PA or whatever to use whichever layout you like).
RyanTX said:
Do you think we can edit the build prop or something to fool the play store into thinking we are using a nexus 10?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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I think there was a patched playstore apk that removes country/device restrictrions.... I don't remember if it needed Xposed or not.... I forgetbut im pretty sure i used it before on one of my old phones