Poor HDMI performance? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I bought a MHL to HDMI adapter and the first time using it, it worked pretty well. Every use after that has been terrible. Can't even watch a non-HD youtube video without the video being extremely choppy. Emulation is also pretty slow. Everything works good when not outputting to my TV. Is this some ROM/Kernel issue or the adapter or is this phone that weak? Anyone have any different experiences?

The slow performance may be from the hardware. The CPU or GPU may not be powerful enough to mirror a 1080p display. I had the same problem when I ran emulation on my Galaxy S2 using N64Oid and GenSoid the framerate would drop when connected to MHL.
Havnt tried on Galaxy Nexus though.

I been playing a handful of graphic intensive games while using the wiimote and haven't noticed any lag or choppyness,the phone did get really hit though. Im using latest Black Ice with the included kernel.

hypersonicx said:
The slow performance may be from the hardware. The CPU or GPU may not be powerful enough to mirror a 1080p display. I had the same problem when I ran emulation on my Galaxy S2 using N64Oid and GenSoid the framerate would drop when connected to MHL.
Havnt tried on Galaxy Nexus though.
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I think it is outputting to 720p. Everything runs perfect on the phone itself but the moment it's plugged in, it can't perform well at all.
phatmanxxl said:
I been playing a handful of graphic intensive games while using the wiimote and haven't noticed any lag or choppyness,the phone did get really hit though. Im using latest Black Ice with the included kernel.
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I will give that combination a shot. I also purchased a new MHL adapter from Samsung. Seems my issues are not the norm though so that gives me hope.

engagedtosmile said:
I think it is outputting to 720p. Everything runs perfect on the phone itself but the moment it's plugged in, it can't perform well at all.
I will give that combination a shot. I also purchased a new MHL adapter from Samsung. Seems my issues are not the norm though so that gives me hope.
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I agree it more looks like 720p to me. I ment the phone got hot, like EXTREMELY hot during games.

have the same issue here...have a feeling it's from the adapter..what kind of mhl adapter are you using ...I have the menotek brand

alaasagar said:
have the same issue here...have a feeling it's from the adapter..what kind of mhl adapter are you using ...I have the menotek brand
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That is the exact one I have. I ordered the one from Samsung and if any adapter should work it should be that considering the phone is made by Samsung. The reviews are good but I will come back and update this post once I have tried it out.

If your phone gets extremely hot this is where undervolting will make some difference and any kind of passive cooling will help also. I usually take my nexus out of my tpu and lay it perpendicular to the cavity side. And my phone will still charge slightly or not lose any using this method. And i havent had performance issues using snes9x or nes.emu. havent tested fpse though.
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If your phone gets extremely hot this is where undervolting will make some difference and any kind of passive cooling will help also. I usually take my nexus out of my tpu and lay it perpendicular to the cavity side. And my phone will still charge slightly or not lose any using this method. And i havent had performance issues using snes9x or nes.emu. havent tested fpse though.
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Can you explain? Like do you rest it so the lip on the bottom is up? Not sure what you mean, sorry.

Anything to elevate it to give airflow. Just set your tpu down, ready like youre going to insert phone and set phone perpendicular on top. You should get a cross.
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engagedtosmile said:
That is the exact one I have. I ordered the one from Samsung and if any adapter should work it should be that considering the phone is made by Samsung. The reviews are good but I will come back and update this post once I have tried it out.
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any updates? did you get the samsung adapter yet?

alaasagar said:
any updates? did you get the samsung adapter yet?
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I got it last night and played with it for a few hours. Much better performance over the Menotek one. Streaming videos was flawless and even emulators ran pretty well. Pretty weird to think it was the adapter but there you go. I got mine for about 10 dollars off Amazon.

engagedtosmile said:
I got it last night and played with it for a few hours. Much better performance over the Menotek one. Streaming videos was flawless and even emulators ran pretty well. Pretty weird to think it was the adapter but there you go. I got mine for about 10 dollars off Amazon.
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can you send me the link for the one you got

alaasagar said:
can you send me the link for the one you got
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LGUDKK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

I tried a couple of universal MHL adapters and had bad epxperiences on my GNex. I hope the Samsung MHL I just ordered works better.

opc3000 said:
I tried a couple of universal MHL adapters and had bad epxperiences on my GNex. I hope the Samsung MHL I just ordered works better.
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It should! Let me know if it doesn't because I do find it pretty weird that certain adapters cause different performance issues.

Problem isn't the adapter
I bought a Monotek MHL to HDMI and immediately had choppy video and audio from my GNex.
I brought it to work to test with the TV's here. I verified the output is 720p.
I also have a co-worker with a GNex, but he has a GSM version with jellybean running (4.1.x). Mine is a Verizon GNex with ICS (4.0.x).
My coworker's GNex worked flawlessly through the Monotek adapter. Mine still sucks.
Could it be the OS version on the phone? Can others verify what OS is running on their phone when it's choppy and when it's good?
Thanks.

Jelly Bean did the trick
smathai said:
I bought a Monotek MHL to HDMI and immediately had choppy video and audio from my GNex.
Could it be the OS version on the phone? Can others verify what OS is running on their phone when it's choppy and when it's good?
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Alrighty! Rooted my Verizon GNex to JB 4.1.1 and now the HDMI out is creamy smooth!
Problem was not with the Monotek connector, but with the OS. :good:

I wanted to report I bought a Skiva brand MHL to hdmi adapter and it works great. I did a lot of research before buying and it is the best out there. Over 4.5/5 stars on Amazon with over 100 reviews. Make sure you select sw decoding because since JB released HW doesn't do well. It's smooth and has almost 0 lag or choppyness.
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Related

MHL / HDMI Mini review.

So, got mine today from mobile fun, link Below.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
Mobile Fun's mini Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnU5F_0TyZI&feature=player_embedded
First of all it works, the most important thing, it works well in fact and my 1080p videos look fantastic, those I have downloaded and those I have recorded myself with this phone, they really do look great and a HD TV. So for the measly price of 15-20 sheets its worth it regardless of the issues below.
The only problem:
For those that didn't know, i.e, didn't do their homework, you cannot just plug this in and it will work, it needs power. Now I knew about this and didn't really see it is an issue as I hadn't really imagined how this would look, work and feel. Well I can say that for me (only my opinion) its a bit of a mess, its far from elegant. Basically you have to plug in a usb cable into the adapter first, this powers it, then plug the adapter into the Phone and then the hdmi into the adapter and TV. This is all easily done but like I say it is far from a more elegant one cable solution that doesn't need power and doesn't need an adapter. For me this was my first real disappointment with this phone, a floating turd in an otherwise lake of glittering gold.
Now it could be argued that I knew about this and that I shouldn't be disappointed but I am, the whole thing in your hand just feels ungainly, something you are not going to know until you put it all together. I really don't like the idea that you have to have a second cable to power it either, again I know this so I don't need this pointing out but people should be aware of this drawback, however minor.
Summary (for those who can be arsed to read)
1. It works really well, HD stuff looks fantastic.
2. Its not an elegant solution as you need a usb cable to power the adapter itself.
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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diehard2222 said:
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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stoolzo said:
marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
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Maybe thats true for you, I'm using and loving MHL on mine.
ripnard said:
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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Dont worry - sorted it. Stoppped overclocking to 1.5ghz and using performance govenor (DOH!) and I can now stream 1080p from youutube over wifi (only works through full fat desktop internet browser mode btw, not via the youtbe app or youtube in mobile broweser page mode) with mobile data off and still charges the phone at the same time!
Wow 1080 video over internet wifi straight to tv. This phone rocks!
my only gripe with this adapter is that it requires power, if this port was just put in place to allow charging when playing this would have been fine, its just the fact you cannot use he adapter at all without an extra the power source.
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
The problem here is that there is no MHL compliant TV yet afaik.
Cause the MHL port in a TV would provide power to the phone without needing another cable.
You'd want it plugged in anyway. I can see the battery lasting an hour playing 1080P video outputting internally and externally at the same time.
Do you still have to have an external power source on the official samsung MHL adapter?
If so, I really doubt I'm buying one
In other words, I need to have a PC or power contact for it to work?
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Hey,
is the output really 1080p (if you have a movie which is 1080p), or is it Android´s/ the phone´s native resolution?
just wondering
bye
Its the phones resolution unless you're in the video player, in which case it outputs it in HD if the source file is HD (does 1080i for compressed video, I've heard it will do 1080p with un-compressed video, but not tried yet to confirm).
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I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
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Probably for the MHL-to-HDMI bridge chip and any support electronics. Note that once MHL-capable TVs enter the market, it may be possible to use a straight-through passive cable, especially if the MHL-capable TV provides charging input to the phone as promised.
can someone tell me what is the cost for a good cable in us dollars?
Wouldnt it make sense for there to be an option to turn the phone screen off when outputting to the TV?
i orderd mine from clove, still waiting for my order..
I ordered this cable just now at mobilefun, but I made an error in my phone number. Wanted to press the escape button so the page wouldn't continue but it was too late. Lol .. anyway I'm sure it'll be fine. Although, I didn't receive a confirmation email yet
"Expected back in stock: 4-8 days" Grrrr
Official Samsung cable is on Amazon UK at the time I'm posting this for £17.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ULZ0IW
Not sure I really need one but a heads-up for those who want it.
Edit: "Usually dispatched within 1 to 4 months"! - oh well maybe I'll order it and see if I need it when it gets here...
i am using the official samsung hdtv adapter/hdmi adapter. just got it today.
the quality of the output video is fantastic...
only gripe is similar to what was mentioned. have to get it powered before it can be used..
sighs..

[Q] Emulator Optimizations

I just got an OEM MHL to HDMI adapter and eagerly began to play GBC games on my plasma. Problem is that I get a lot more audio lag when I am playing on the big screen so I was wondering of there is anything I can do to make the emulators run a bit faster. Also is there a way to make the emulator hide the soft keys (trying to avoid burn-in)?
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i believe the latest versions of the "oids" (gameboid, n64oid) will hide them automatically after a minute or two without touching the screen. I bought an adapter as well but mine was junk and was not working. can you send me a link with the adapter?
hope this helped!
Hydera5 said:
i believe the latest versions of the "oids" (gameboid, n64oid) will hide them automatically after a minute or two without touching the screen. I bought an adapter as well but mine was junk and was not working. can you send me a link with the adapter?
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My version of GBCoid does not, nor my version of Gensoid. I am getting them from the SlideME marketplace so I am not sure if there is somewhere else I should be going.
As for the MHL to HDMI adapter, I picked up the OEM one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LGUDKK/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Its working nicely so far. Sometimes the AV hiccups and then rehooks up again in a second so I don't really mind. Ive played through an entire game of Toejam & Earl without any major problems so I would recommend it. It says it is for the SGS2 but I can confirm it works fine with the Nexus.
Playing a genesis ROM on my big plasma with bluetooth on really drains the battery (even if it is charging!) So one thing to have in mind. 4 hours took it down to 40%

MHL problem?

Finally bought the expensive mhl adapter for the s3 and after hooking up my phone to my samsung px2370 1080p monitor, I don't like what I'm seeing. The picture looks really fuzzy and reminds me of interlaced output. Plus my monitor is reporting a resolution of 1920x1079. Anyone experiencing the same problem?
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georaldc said:
Finally bought the expensive mhl adapter for the s3 and after hooking up my phone to my samsung px2370 1080p monitor, I don't like what I'm seeing. The picture looks really fuzzy and reminds me of interlaced output. Plus my monitor is reporting a resolution of 1920x1079. Anyone experiencing the same problem?
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I couldnt get it to work at all. I think they're just another gimmick not well made but who knows.
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Have you contacted Samsung? Just asking as it might be a simple setup tweak required.
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Have you contacted Samsung? Just asking as it might be a simple setup tweak required.
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Im thinking its because I'm rooted to be honest, it works by shutting off the device first then plugging everything in then turning it on and it's supposed to pick up from there but nothing happens. The same with my One S.
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You're saying it works, but it doesn't work?? Are you using the official s3 mhl adapter?
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is this the hdmi cable converter? if so yes i have plugged it into my 37inch LG HD TV in the bedroom. and its perfect, I even connected my ps3 controller and played NOVA which surprised me as it was better then PS2. Color is brilliant
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is this the hdmi cable converter? if so yes i have plugged it into my 37inch LG HD TV in the bedroom. and its perfect, I even connected my ps3 controller and played NOVA which surprised me as it was better then PS2. Color is brilliant
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+1 mine is perfect full HD 1920x1080 says on screen .. worked when stock, now rooted and even after mod .. bet it's not an original do a search model # and compare
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It might just be my pc monitor. I can't even get it to work with my computer via hdmi (dvi works though, as well as with my 360 and ps3). The adapter looks legit to me. I'll be trying it on a different tv and/monitor in a bit
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I bought the new MHL adapter as soon as it was available from Samsung. Output from applications like Netflix is reduced quality, this is intentional by the Netflix app. If you play a HD movie, you will see the quality is very good.
My only problem was lag. It looked good, but it was the equivalent of playing a video game with a framerate of around 20 FPS, it made gaming impossible and movies frustrating. I was told it may be my MHL adapter, but I haven't gotten a new one yet.
Saying it's the adapter is the easy answer. I have one that works perfectly on almost any LCD TV I have tried, but on LCD monitors, I have issues usually. I have used it with an HDMI to DVI cable, and got the exact result you described. I think it has something to do with the monitor not recognizing the native output. I haven't used it on an HDMI monitor.
I can confirm it works quite well on almost all TV's.
Ok I think I know what the problem is now. Seems like the s3 only outputs tp 1080i, that explains the flickering and fuzziness on my Led monitor. Is there no mod or hack to at least make it output at 720p instead (since 1080p would probably be to demanding)? Why would samsung stick to just 1080i? Was it the same with previous phones like the s2?
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Now that I'm on the puter it's gonna be easier to explain, I bought a T-Mobile MHL kit when
I got the HTC One S and rooted the device but for some reason it wouldn't work with it so
about a month after I had the One S I bought the GS3 and rooted it (still have both) and
tried it with this one and still nothing.
I was told by a few that it might not work on a rooted device but after doing the research it
seems that I'm the only one having this problem but I figured trying it on a different device
should show something, I'm at the point now that I'm sure it's the MHL kit and not a root
problem.
AFAIK only 1 cable/adapter exists that works with the s3 and its an official samsung product. Previous mhl adapters won't work due to a change in pin layout to the connector so if you bought one that isn't marked for the s3, the most likely isn't compatible and won't work. Even official s2 mhl adapters won't work
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AFAIK only 1 cable/adapter exists that works with the s3 and its an official samsung product. Previous mhl adapters won't work due to a change in pin layout to the connector so if you bought one that isn't marked for the s3, the most likely isn't compatible and won't work. Even official s2 mhl adapters won't work
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It figures, I should just restore the One S to stock or sell it but on another note I just posted a tutorial for anyone interested on how to use the GS3 and the PS3 as a media server, connections and settings if you have a PS3 already. In the T-mobile general section.
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Slimport performance?

I was extremely disappointed in the nexus 10's laggy HDMI out. Anyone know the performance on the nexus 7 now? I hope to play emulators on the television.
I'm hoping for lag under 500ms. Really under 100 preferred.
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Good question, although personally I would want lag to be under 30ms for gaming.
Well really as low as possible. But I don't want to be greedy.
If it has good performance, I'll be playing my favorite old SNES games : D
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
Thanks!
Locklear308 said:
Well really as low as possible. But I don't want to be greedy.
If it has good performance, I'll be playing my favorite old SNES games : D
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
Thanks!
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Are you using a slimport adapter or something generic?
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Are you using a slimport adapter or something generic?
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This one!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
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I suggested the lag might be because the slimport adapter (according to reviews) is always sending HDCP (encrypted content) even for content that doesn't need to be copy protected.
I don't know for sure if that is the cause, but HDCP can introduce slight delays depending on the equipment.
Some people claim to use HDFury to strip the HDCP and use VGA input on their displays. I presume they feel HDFury can process HDCP faster than their TV can. However, if the issue is on the nexus or slimport adapter side, then HDFury really wouldn't help because the lag already happened.
I don't know if this is the case, just providing info for you to look into.
I suppose one could buy the VGA slimport adapter and test that theory out as VGA doesn't have HDCP.
BTW does anyone know how the always-on HDCP protection is working on these slimport adapters?
Is it
N7(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)SlimPort(HDCP2)---->(HDCP2)TV
where HDCP1 and HDCP2 are 2 separate encryption/decryption cycles.
or is it
N7(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)SlimPort(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)TV
Where HDCP1 is more of a pass-through across the slimport adapter.
I looked at the specs for the slimport transmitter and receiver chips here:
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/ANX7805_PB.pdf
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/ANX7730_PB.pdf
and it seems both transmitter and receiver have HDCP capabilities, so it seems like the first option is a possibility.
Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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Thanks a lot mate! Going to order my slimport adapter now that I know for sure threre's no significant lag and its suitable for game playing
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Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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I would like to know which Slimport adapter you are using and also your HDMI cable. I just received my analogical Slimport adapter and there is definitely a lag when playing games. Works fine for viewing videos showing pictures, but I have a logitech revue that I can use for that.
I Tried to play some SNES games and the lag made them almost unplayable. Killer instinct and super Mario world were the games I tried. I really hope it's my HDMI cable, but since it works fine with my PS3, then I think it might be the slimport adapter. If that's the case, it really sucks that I wasted $30.
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I would like to know which Slimport adapter you are using and also your HDMI cable. I just received my analogical Slimport adapter and there is definitely a lag when playing games. Works fine for viewing videos showing pictures, but I have a logitech revue that I can use for that.
I Tried to play some SNES games and the lag made them almost unplayable. Killer instinct and super Mario world were the games I tried. I really hope it's my HDMI cable, but since it works fine with my PS3, then I think it might be the slimport adapter. If that's the case, it really sucks that I wasted $30.
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Really? I've been playing ocarina of time! Hmmm...HDMI cable is a 3 dollar one and cable is the official slimport brand
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Really? I've been playing ocarina of time! Hmmm...HDMI cable is a 3 dollar one and cable is the official slimport brand
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So it appears the TV you use plays a factor. I was originally testing the Slimport adapter with my 32 Inch Phillips LCD TV, model # 32PFL3504D/F7. I went to my bed room and plugged it into my Walmart brand 26 inch ILO TV and to my surprise, I was a able to initiate combos on Killer Instinct with no lag at all.
Not only was it an older seemingly lower grade TV, I was using the lowest grade HDMI cable I had, one I paid $2 for on Amazon. So I took the cable from the ILO TV and went back to the living room to test it with the Philips TV. It produced the same crappy results as my other two High quality HDMI cables.
What I did notice though, is that it wasn't a lag from the nexus 7 2nd gen to the TV but a complete tablet lag. Everything was delayed by a half a second even while looking at the tablet vs looking at the TV. I have no idea why but I have no lag on one TV using my ps3 controller wireless and I have noticeable lag using the same set up on another TV. Also the lag shows on the tablet as well...
Guess it's time for a new living room TV. I wanted to get a bigger screen TV anyway but couldn't justify a reason. Could you tell me what TV you are using?
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So it appears the TV you use plays a factor. I was originally testing the Slimport adapter with my 32 Inch Phillips LCD TV, model # 32PFL3504D/F7. I went to my bed room and plugged it into my Walmart brand 26 inch ILO TV and to my surprise, I was a able to initiate combos on Killer Instinct with no lag at all.
Not only was it an older seemingly lower grade TV, I was using the lowest grade HDMI cable I had, one I paid $2 for on Amazon. So I took the cable from the ILO TV and went back to the living room to test it with the Philips TV. It produced the same crappy results as my other two High quality HDMI cables.
What I did notice though, is that it wasn't a lag from the nexus 7 2nd gen to the TV but a complete tablet lag. Everything was delayed by a half a second even while looking at the tablet vs looking at the TV. I have no idea why but I have no lag on one TV using my ps3 controller wireless and I have noticeable lag using the same set up on another TV. Also the lag shows on the tablet as well...
Guess it's time for a new living room TV. I wanted to get a bigger screen TV anyway but couldn't justify a reason. Could you tell me what TV you are using?
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A samsung, 40 inch, 120hz 1920x1080.
Althought I am going to try it on my asus, 21.5 inch 1920x1080 IPS display. :3
Locklear308 said:
A samsung, 40 inch, 120hz 1920x1080.
Althought I am going to try it on my asus, 21.5 inch 1920x1080 IPS display. :3
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Thanks man. I was definitely thinking Samsung since they are the leader in electronics right now. I wonder if best buy will allow me to plug my Nexus seven in via slimport adapter to test HDMI performance?

Question about hooking up to my TV via hdmi and not getting full screen.

Has anyone found a way to hook up their tablet to their TV with full display? I bought an hdmi adapter but it has a black bar on each side not covering the whole TV display. My note 10.1 2013 version didn't have this problem.
I have the same issue and haven't found a solution so far. What makes it worse, it defaults to a 1080i 24hz signal which is very noticeably laggy especially when gaming. And the colors are bad. Makes no sense, the note 10.1 should have 0 issue pushing 1080p/60hz when it does usually alot more than that.
what we need is hdmi options. I also want to be able to turn off the screen of my tablet when it's outputting to the TV.
Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
clouds5 said:
I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
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Its extremely frustrating... I don't know if it will ever get fixed... That's one of the main uses for my tablet too.
RussellEstridge25 said:
Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
BarryH_GEG said:
AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
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ok... so whats the conclusion here...
RussellEstridge25 said:
ok... so whats the conclusion here...
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I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
BarryH_GEG said:
I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
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Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
RussellEstridge25 said:
Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
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The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
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Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
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The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
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So, can I mirror onto my 60inch vizio with the all share wireless hub?
clouds5 said:
I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
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I agree that's a lot more money for something other cheaper devices already do. You go on a still keep your tablet?
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RussellEstridge25 said:
Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
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EDIT: Never mind. I got it all to work. So I guess thats my work around for now. Im just going to use my ps3 to view the videos I want. Not the ideal solution but it beats spending more money! Hopefully something gets figured out in the mean time. I shouldn't have to rely on a ps3 for this type of thing on such an awesome device.

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