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[Q] Root Desire

Can someone explain me please what is a root Desire?What is the different between root desire and non root desire?why must someone root his desire?
thank you for your time

http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/07/rooting-a-glossary-of-terms/#more-395
Rooting
This is the process of applying root to your phone. Basically think of it as unlocking all the options of your phone. By default you are a user, and you have limited privilages to do things on your phone. You cannot really modify any internal aspects of the phone. Rooting gives you a super user access, effectively giving you extra permissions and more freedom to play around with your phone. Things such as taking screenshots, backing up all data to do with an app or overclocking your phones processor.

Thank you for your quick answer.can you please tell me how can i root my desire?i am using android 2.2.
also if i root my desire,can i go back to the oficial?
thank you

You can't at the moment. You'll have to wait until someone finds a way to root 2.2

sbdags said:
You can't at the moment. You'll have to wait until someone finds a way to root 2.2
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can i still install the OTA_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8-1.21.405.2_release4dua3bcrut4wrv30.zip
on my unbranded,unlocked and just rooted 2.1 Desire manually by put it on my SDcard and flashing?

Root is not a great advantage to the average user and tbh if you need to ask then the advantages of rooting will be extreamly minor. The backup is probably the best feature of being rooted. The OTA updates will need to be done via the SD Card Manually if you root but its very easy and should not put you off rooting.

jamesmcuk said:
Root is not a great advantage to the average user and tbh if you need to ask then the advantages of rooting will be extreamly minor. The backup is probably the best feature of being rooted. The OTA updates will need to be done via the SD Card Manually if you root but its very easy and should not put you off rooting.
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Cheers for the fast answer.Im ok with rooting i just wanted to be sure if the OTA froyo from HTC with Sense can still be uploaded manually via SDcard and from your reply,it seems like it's possible.

yeah it is I was wondering the same thing 2 days ago here is my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748105

Agreed you can pretty much live without root if you don't want to customise, but I use it for:
1) Moving / removing apps from system in recovery
2) Flashing fixes like wake on menu button or an updated hosts files so no ads appear on phone, or custom icons / frameworks
3) Allows flashing of custom Roms with many features not found on stock Roms
4) Allows Nandroid backups and recoveries to roll back easily
5) Allows apps to be run that require root; Titanium Backup, Cache Manager, Rom Manager, Root Explorer, Terminal Emulator, etc

jamesmcuk said:
yeah it is I was wondering the same thing 2 days ago here is my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748105
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How's the froyo experience for you?Encountering any signal bar/radio issues or any wifi signal drops?How about laggings generally?

nasimdejai said:
How's the froyo experience for you?Encountering any signal bar/radio issues or any wifi signal drops?How about laggings generally?
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Depends which Rom you use. The OTA ones suck imo as there are too many bugs. Try Neophyte 1.6 first as it is very stable and quick.

sbdags said:
Depends which Rom you use. The OTA ones suck imo as there are too many bugs. Try Neophyte 1.6 first as it is very stable and quick.
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Can I use the same method as the OTA to install Neophyte 1.6 or is it some other method?Cheers

You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium
This assumes you used revoke to root the phone in the first place.

Actually you need some things to:
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
some basics.
IS IT Possible to use ROM MANAGER and not RECOVERY MODE?

nasimdejai said:
How's the froyo experience for you?Encountering any signal bar/radio issues or any wifi signal drops?How about laggings generally?
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only been using it a day or so but its all good right now. I wouldn't say the speed improvements are massive because although in technical terms they maybe e.g 1 sec becomes 1/4 sec its not massively noticeable. it does feel snappy though! my wifi is spot on as is my mobile network using the roms i detailed on my thread posted above on my virgin mobile uk handset. I didn't try and find a virgin mobile rom btw so i assume this will work on all desires. Only thing so far with Froyo is my Phonelogger app wants to force close all the time but i guess there will be an update for it soon enough.

kmetek said:
Actually you need some things to:
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
some basics.
IS IT Possible to use ROM MANAGER and not RECOVERY MODE?
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Great guide BTW!

sbdags said:
You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium
This assumes you used revoke to root the phone in the first place.
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I used revoked3 and how do i go about repartitioning,is it via PC or directly on the phone?

how to repartition your sd card?

forget all that partitioning nonsense after all the reasons for sending it back are liekly to be broken screen, wont charge, buttons faulty, or touch screen defective all of which will probably result in you not being able to restore to factory anyway!
If you are going to root then grab the bull and hold on lol

kmetek said:
how to repartition your sd card?
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yes,would love to know how to do that

New SD Card - stuck on white screen

HI,
I have a rooted Desire running Pinky Rom
I recently bought a new 16GB card and am having problems with i. I formatted it throught the recovery menu and have copied over all the files from the old SD card.
However, now when I put in the new card the phone gets stick on the White HTC initial screen.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
(The old SD card was partitioned but I was going to do that through ROM manager and restore my apps through Titanium)
Thanks

That'll be the problem, old data needed by the ROM will be on the old SD card. You'll need to wipe and start again (or partition it using Amon RA/GParted)

EddyOS said:
That'll be the problem, old data needed by the ROM will be on the old SD card. You'll need to wipe and start again (or partition it using Amon RA/GParted)
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So basically go into Recovery, and wipe everything, and then try and re-install the ROM using the new card?

Just a wipe should be fine - the ROM should then start and you can then partition it. I'd, personally, change to Amon RA and partition it before the first boot of the ROM but that's just me...
I say this in that it should work after a wipe BUT I'd wait for confirmation first. I assume if you put your old card in it works fine?

Yeah old card works as normal.
Will try the wipes (left the new card at home so will have to wait until after work!)
Never heard of Amon RA so will google that now and try and figure out what it is!

It's another custom recovery, like Clockwork Mod...I use it now as it has more options than Clockwork Mod - search for it on here, it's in the Developers forum

Amon-ra is arguably the best recovery around and on many android devices is the only option (or the only option everyone uses).

Excuse my ignorance, but it is an app that I download?

No, its a custom recovery like Clockwork Mod

EddyOS said:
Just a wipe should be fine - the ROM should then start and you can then partition it.
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Right,
I wiped it, and then the phone got by the white screen. I had to reset my APN settings as they were blank but managed that.
But I am now getting an Error manage when I try and connect to WIFI.
I have searched around here and all the problems seem to relate to updates to 2.2 and gold cards.
My phone was already on 2.2 and I have never used a goldcard in my life....not even sure what one is.
Anyone any ideas how to fix this??
Thanks guys

[Q] Can't boot my Desire with any ROM

Hi,
I am having some real problems with my Desire. I was using T-Mod (Leedroid) but thought I'd try out the RCMix ROM this arvo so I did all my backups and a Nandroid backup. I was using CWM 2.5.0.7 and this was fine before but I tried to flash RCMix on and it didn't work. I then tried to upgrade CWM to 3.2.0.8 unsuccessfully. I even tried upgrading from ext3 to ext4 and I formatted my 16GB SD card but that didn't help either.
I have not been able to upgrade anything yet and my phone will not even boot up stock. It is not letting me do any installs of zips, it says no files found and it won't let me do any Nandroid restores either.
So I am stuck with a useless phone that I can't even temporarily use because it won't boot past the Telstra boot screen. I can only get into bootloader and recovery. I have wiped everything but can't get anything to work. I am S-ON.
Can anybody help me? I'm at a loss and have been googling and trying things for hours upon hours tonight. It would be great just to even get back to stock....

Format your SD card (copy content to PC first!), go to fastboot and then try RUU from Telstra...
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk

The Telstra RUU didn't work because it's too old. I'm downloading the downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1 right now, so I'll try that and see what happens.
Any ideas why CWM can't see the zip files on my sd card?

Corrupted data perhaps...? Try formating your sd (all partitions - if any ext3/4) and rebuild your partitions... It should work...by your intel, it must be an sd card problem, have you tried another one...?
Sent from my cool Desire

I tried formatting it a few times. I tried both ext3 and also ext4 but it still couldn't see the zip files. I also formatted the FAT32 part. I used Gparted to do it with the FAT32 partition at the left and ext3/4 on the right. I tried it at 2GB but it didn't like it so I tried 1.8GB and then it recognised the ext3/4 part but still can't see the zip files.
Just finished downloading the downgrade so will try that now.
Perhaps something is wrong with my sdcard..?

The downgrade failed but I've managed to flash RCMix on with a different 2GB sdcard. I have tried to use the other card again but CWM still can't find any files on it for some reason. Gparted is also not loading it anymore so perhaps that 16GB sdcard is dead. Looks like I'm going to need to buy a new 16GB sdcard so I can store my music on there again as 1GB is being used for the ext3 partition.
Does this sound about right, that the sdcard is dead?
I can still use and access it in windows, it just won't work on the phone.

I found that if the cards file system is on the way out cwm nicely wipes it for me. If after several formats its the same, it may well be a dead card
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yeah ok, I've formatted it numerous times and it still won't read any zips. I wasted so much time when all I had to do was use another sdcard....sucks so much.
Also how do I permanently upgrade CWM from 2.5.0.7? I have to keep fake flashing 3.2.0.8 at the moment.
I was thinking when I get my new sdcard that I'll try and do S-OFF. Is it worth it? Should I bother?

Oh god yeah. Fake flash has so many flaws. S-off and fastboot flash recovery.img. see fastboot faq in my signature
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ok thanks, I'll try S-OFF and flash a new recovery.img when I get a new sdcard.
Which version of CWM is best to use? I was going to use 3.2.0.8 because that's what was said to use with RCMix.

I use 5.0.2.0 for some time now and I haven't had any problems at all.
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Avilis said:
I use 5.0.2.0 for some time now and I haven't had any problems at all.
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/
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ok thanks, I'll try that version then.
Do I need to download recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.zip or recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.img ??

.img to fastboot flash it. I prefer 2.5.0.7 myself
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Cool thanks. I can't use 2.5.0.7 though as apparently it won't work well with the ROM I'm using.

MU7L3Y said:
Cool thanks. I can't use 2.5.0.7 though as apparently it won't work well with the ROM I'm using.
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And why not? You get errors?

I did have some issues but never mind all that now. I bought a new 16gb card today and am now S-OFF thanks to the revolutionary method and have flashed cwm 5.0.2.0, a new splash img and boot animation. Now to set up the rest of my phone. I'm a happy chappy!

Installing ICS rom on HTC Desire.

Hi,
I have rooted my HTC desire and have S-OFF enabled.
Now I wanted to installed sandvold's ICS rom, but I dont have a clue where to start and I am not attempting to do anything in fear of brick.
I have backuped my phone using titanium backup. Installed Rom Manager.
Now I'm just unsure about installing the rom. I read you needed to install a radio.zip, but I cant see anything like that in the ICS rom.
Also not sure about the micro SD situation, as I'm sure you need a partition for it, so not sure where to start with that.
Basically, I just need a guide to help me with installing this rom and taking all the precautions along the way.
Thanks!

By guide, I dont neccessarily mean for you to make a guide, just a link to one if there is one you know of.
Thanks again.

Okay... umm ditch rom manager would be my first suggestion.
Then check my sig and install 4ext recovery. There is an app on page1 of thread to install it. Its better than rom manager.
Then use 4ext recovery to create a new nandbackup of your current rom.
Then copy ALL contents of your sd card to your computer.
Then use 4ext recovery to create an EXT partition on your sdcard. This will wipe everything on the SD.
Put all your files back to the sd card and the zip file of the rom you wish to flash. And flash the ROM.
About the radio, don't touch the radio for now. Unless you are running froyo you don't need to mess with it yet. But if needed my sig would point you to where the radio files are.
Whats your current radio version anyway?
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[Q] No space for apps - SD-ext on stock 2.2 ROM?

Hi - this is an old topic but I've not been able to find an answer to this question...
My wife has a stock Desire GSM locked to T-Mobile UK with their stock 2.2 ROM. It's not rooted and there's no custom recovery. She's always running into the 15MB 'low storage' warning even with as much automated 'App2SD' as possible.
As a result *I* get a lot of earache about 'this bloody phone' and I'd like it to stop.
I don't want to flash a custom ROM, but if I root the phone with unrevoked, will I be able to take advantage of an 'sd-ext' partition on the MicroSD card so she can have a gig of apps rather than the ****ty 140MB on the internal storage?
What other apps / scripts / packages would be needed? The current ROM works fine - I would rather not replace it if possible since the settings / apps restore will be slow and painful.
Cheers,
Gavin.

Check Supernova rom. It's the stock Gingerbread update from HTC plus the space. I understand that you don't wanna flash a different rom but it's worth considering.

stankyou said:
Check Supernova rom. It's the stock Gingerbread update from HTC plus the space. I understand that you don't wanna flash a different rom but it's worth considering.
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Hm, interesting... so for that I'd just run unrevoked and assuming that installs ClockworkMod recovery OK, I'd copy the Flashable ZIP from http://supernova.droidzone.in/?page_id=24 to the SD card and flash that from recovery?
But yeh, keeping the existing ROM would be gold

Yeah in a nutshell. But first check what hboot version you have. You may need to run Revolutionary instead of Unrevoked. Also once you got that part done, instead of using clockworkmod recovery search for 4ext recovery touch its a lot better. Then with that recovery you can partition your sd card. Yeah its a lot of work.
Read the supernova thread or the website where you can download the rom. If I am not mistaken you can actually flash the rom without losing data. Just read the instructions carefully as its a little bit different from the usual process if I can remember correctly.
That's the closest rom where you can get the stock goods from htc. Check the everything desire thread on the dev section there might be some other roms there that is stock plus apps2sd.
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If you just don't want to change your rom, you can use Link2SD. It is found on the market, with it you can control which apps are moved and what is moved (app, dalvik, libs). It also has an "auto-move" feature, so your wife won't need to move everything manually. But of course you'll first have to create the ext4 partition.

Teppics stock rooted GB Rom is also worth a look, and you might also get away with not wiping data. Once rooted recommend download Titanium Backup from market and use it to backup user apps, then do a full nandroid backup before doing anything else. Any problems restoring nandroid will get you back to where you were. Also, 4Ext recovery is good but this requires S-OFF and is a separate process if you root via Unrevoked. Read up and read it again before starting, will stand you in good stead.
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Ahh "Link2SD" - that looks like a winner - I knew there would be a solution but no amount of Google-fu opened it for me... Link2SD - that's the magic incantation )
I'll give that a shot =)
As for the Unrevoked part - I can't do a full Nandroid backup until I get past that part.. so fingers crossed

Solved - SD-ext on stock 2.2 ROM?
Just wanted to follow up on this to say that I successfully ran Revolutionary against the T-Mobile locked phone (HBOOT 0.93.0001), applied the Superuser-3.0.3-efgh.zip as linked from the Revolutionary FAQ.
Finally I made a second FAT32 partition on the SD card since the phone doesn't seem to have ext2/3/4 support built in... and now we've been using Link2SD quite successfully =)
Thanks for the pointers + help, peeps