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Hello,
I have a galaxy SL, and my brother is going to get a galaxy W.
In SL there is a non removable internal sd card(small), and I can add external sd card.
The main problem with this configuration is that with normal phone without rooting, I can only move the applications to internal sd card(small) using different apps or from settings screen, but I can not move the applications to the external sd card.
Does galaxy w has the same problematic configuration?
Best Regards,
Abdalla
Hi there..
In my experience, the opposite is the case.
Apps can be moved, using Android native manual Apps2SD or the Auto GUI App2SD, free from Market.
Apps can only be moved to External SD card......Internal USB/Storage is for Data, Music, Pics, etc.
Phone Memory for Apps is quite big, 1G, so it will take a while to fill this with Apps.
However, some ROMs have utilized a memory mount point swap, which can be useful if you want to use Internal USB/SD for apps!!!
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nihongasukidesu said:
Hello,
I have a galaxy SL, and my brother is going to get a galaxy W.
In SL there is a non removable internal sd card(small), and I can add external sd card.
The main problem with this configuration is that with normal phone without rooting, I can only move the applications to internal sd card(small) using different apps or from settings screen, but I can not move the applications to the external sd card.
Does galaxy w has the same problematic configuration?
Best Regards,
Abdalla
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I use link2sd but first you have to make partition using minitool partition..
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stpdkid said:
I use link2sd but first you have to make partition using minitool partition..
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That's a good app OK....you can use FAT32 partition AFAIK
but I remember it was used before Froyo gave the ability to move Apps to SD....which is improved now with GB.....and when ICS comes there will be moving to any Storage..
It has the ability to force move Apps which are not designed to be moved....sometimes for good reasons!!
When I had a ZTE Blade I also used Dark Tremors A2SD.....which moved Apps and Dalvik, etc to sd-ext 1G. partition.....
but I don't think it works on this phone.
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irishpancake said:
That's a good app OK....you can use FAT32 partition AFAIK
but I remember it was used before Froyo gave the ability to move Apps to SD....which is improved now with GB.....and when ICS comes there will be moving to any Storage..
It has the ability to force move Apps which are not designed to be moved....sometimes for good reasons!!
When I had a ZTE Blade I also used Dark Tremors A2SD.....which moved Apps and Dalvik, etc to sd-ext 1G. partition.....
but I don't think it works on this phone.
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yepp..use fat32.
last time I use it, it works but everytime I restart my wonder some apps can't open(apps that.i link), but it will be opened only if you reboot from link2sd..
yes it will force move apps but we can uncheck the re-link or unlink so the apps still in the internal,..for me, I used to install apps that not designed to be move first, and then install link2sd..
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Thank you for your replies
From my understanding from irishpancake reply, there is no need of swapping storages or external apps to move the application (that support move2sd feature) to the external sd card, which is great.
I had to swap mount points for my galaxy SL to do the same thing, but my brother is not into rooting/hacking stuff.
Thanks very much, and please correct me if I am wrong.
Don't forget App2SD App free from Market will notify you when movable App downloaded.....
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.app2sd
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I use link2sd but first you have to make partition using minitool partition..
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Hi there..
I'm confused.. Can anyone show the way how to do the partition step-by-step..
Besides, I'm glad to join ya'll..
nalee said:
Hi there..
I'm confused.. Can anyone show the way how to do the partition step-by-step..
Besides, I'm glad to join ya'll..
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Hey there "confused" nalee!!
First question: you wanna partition ur External SD for why??
Have you run out of space on phone Internal Memory for Apps??
Second question: Have you tried moving Apps to External SD using the native Apps2SD which we have??
It is easy peezy.....and you don't need to create partition on ur External SD. If you wanna make it easier again, why not try App2SD, free from Market, which will notify you when Apps can be moved.
Or Gemini App Manager, which has the same function, plus a whole lot more!!!!
But, if you just wanna try out partitioning your SD, take a look at Link2SD web page.....
http://www.link2sd.info/description
You will need to D/L Minitool Partition Manager, if you got Windoze, or GParted tool for Linux.
You take responsibility for your own phone, so if you Brick or damage, no blame to me or Link2SD..
OK...
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Well Irishpancake, that was helpful enough.. but does it mean that there's no way to link any file to apps which is save in External Sd..? You know how huge the games file are... It's Like every I wanna play the games, I have to move the file to Usb-Storage, then play the game.. Do I have to do this all the time...?
I'm sorry if I'm too not understand since I changed Smsg W from Smsg Ace..
Bytheway, thanks alot...
nalee said:
Well Irishpancake, that was helpful enough.. but does it mean that there's no way to link any file to apps which is save in External Sd..? You know how huge the games file are... It's Like every I wanna play the games, I have to move the file to Usb-Storage, then play the game.. Do I have to do this all the time...?
I'm sorry if I'm too not understand since I changed Smsg W from Smsg Ace..
Bytheway, thanks alot...
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There is a manual way on rooted phone~
if you can run "Terminal Emulator" app on the phone and rooted:
1) su <-- run command as root
2) mount -o bind /sdcard/external_sd/<your directory with data files> /sdcard/<empty directory that will be used by your app>
or you can try this app "Directory Bind"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=directory+bind
which actually do the same thing.
AdliHebat said:
There is a manual way on rooted phone~
if you can run "Terminal Emulator" app on the phone and rooted:
1) su <-- run command as root
2) mount -o bind /sdcard/external_sd/<your directory with data files> /sdcard/<empty directory that will be used by your app>
or you can try this app "Directory Bind"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=directory+bind
which actually do the same thing.
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I am do glad you answer that question!!!!
Coz I have no idea.....
that App looks very good.
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irishpancake said:
Don't forget App2SD App free from Market will notify you when movable App downloaded.....
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We have the phone now, but it is not like what I understood at all.
That is really a problem.
The app2sd has 3 tabs (on phone, on sd card, phone only)
The on sd card tab shows the small total 1.7 GB internal card, and there is no tab for the external 16 GB card.
Does it mean there is no easy way to move the applications to the big 16GB memory?
nihongasukidesu said:
We have the phone now, but it is not like what I understood at all.
That is really a problem.
The app2sd has 3 tabs (on phone, on sd card, phone only)
The on sd card tab shows the small total 1.7 GB internal card, and there is no tab for the external 16 GB card.
Does it mean there is no easy way to move the applications to the big 16GB memory?
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Abdalla friend......
The App2SD app is misreporting.....
It assumes /mnt/sdcard is the external SD.....
and reports what it finds!!!!
But, if you select any App shown in the "On Phone" tab.....
and then select "Move to SD card" Option......
Your App will go to External SD in the
/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure folder!!!!
App2SD is simply executing the native Android GB Apps to SD.....
The only useful function this app has is to Notify when Downloaded App can be moved......ensure you enable this in settings.
The actual moving is done by the native system move Apps function!!!
So, I would advise if you are manually moving all Apps, there is a "Move All' function!!!!
Also, can I recommend Storage Analyzer app, free from Market....
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
It is the only app I know of which allows you to see what is on the .android_secure folder from your phone, without needing to mount on your PC or Laptop.
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irishpancake said:
Also, can I recommend Storage Analyzer app, free from Market....
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
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Thank you for this tip, it is very nice app, really, but too much FC in the latest version
_jis_ said:
Thank you for this tip, it is very nice app, really, but too much FC in the latest version
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Never had a FC with Storage Analyzer.....
but perhaps it happens
I agree, it is a nice App.....
and very informative....
Thanx for ur thanx!!!!!
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Apps2sd is just moving the apps on SD card, but this SD card is just the usb storage only not the external sd card
irishpancake said:
Never had a FC with Storage Analyzer...
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For example use the three pattern button in the top right corner and try to show latest changes or about repeately.
_jis_ said:
For example use the three pattern button in the top right corner and try to show latest changes or about repeately.
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You have found a bug.....
It will FC after display of "What's new" page......V 0.9.1.
It does happen, but normal app usage is OK, it does what it says it does......
I would report that bug to the Dev!!
I'd say it is easily fixed.
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pao9195 said:
Apps2sd is just moving the apps on SD card, but this SD card is just the usb storage only not the external sd card
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You are incorrect if you are talking about app App2SD.....
or even if you are talking about Android native Apps2SD.......
and you have normal memory Mount Points.....
not modified "vold.fstab" as in some custom ROM's....
If you can show otherwise It would be helpful!!!
BTW.....you should not give out information unless you know it is correct.....
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I got a 16GB class, 10 memory card. I made a partition if 1gb and 0mb swap. Is that correct? What does the swap really help with?
I tried Google but couldn't really understand it properly. Someone can explain it to me in layman's terms? ^_^
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That's a good size. Now install data2sd by jikanturu and you have more internal memory.
good enough?
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I tried link2sd. It says no space left on the phone. :S
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Royal King said:
I tried link2sd. It says no space left on the phone. :S
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then reinstall it or try data2sd.
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Link?
Can you provide the link to Data2SD? All the ones I found were deleted off of mediafire D:
Search Data2SDInstallerNXE2.zip and you'd get your desired thing on androidforums.com
Else pm me your email and I'd send you the zips....
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Swap is fake ram. With class 10 SD card you had to use at least 128mb-256mb because wfs have only 512mb ram
Don't bother with swap, you don't need it. Swap is just using disk space as RAM. But since the SD card is significantly slower than RAM (even if it is a class 10), you won't be having a good time. I've got like 120 apps installed on my phone and I still have 100+MB of RAM available. You don't need swap. As for sd-ext, don't bother with all the many different scripts, the easiest way is just to download S2E from the Play Store, it does it all for you
do we need swap? http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Swap_and_Compcache
It's up to your choice.
my sdcard has 128mb swap.
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dudeman1996 said:
Don't bother with swap, you don't need it. Swap is just using disk space as RAM. But since the SD card is significantly slower than RAM (even if it is a class 10), you won't be having a good time. I've got like 120 apps installed on my phone and I still have 100+MB of RAM available. You don't need swap. As for sd-ext, don't bother with all the many different scripts, the easiest way is just to download S2E from the Play Store, it does it all for you
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Hi, I have a 4GB (Class 10) memory card. (872 MB -Ext4 Partition, 700 MB -Linux Swap and 2300 MB on Standard Partition) and using Link2SD. I have installed 30 apps and got only 45MB internal memory left.
But I see you got more internal memory.
1. How is this possible?
2. Can I now move on to S2E? If yes then how?
Thanks.
Senthamil said:
Hi, I have a 4GB (Class 10) memory card. (872 MB -Ext4 Partition, 700 MB -Linux Swap and 2300 MB on Standard Partition) and using Link2SD. I have installed 30 apps and got only 45MB internal memory left.
But I see you got more internal memory.
1. How is this possible?
2. Can I now move on to S2E? If yes then how?
Thanks.
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The best way to do it would be to backup all your apps and data with titanium backup, then reinstall your rom from scratch. Make your sd-ext partition bigger if you wish, then install S2E, let it mount your sd-ext and then restore everything with titanium backup.
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Hey guys I have been asking everywhere but no one has replied me so I have no choice but to post a new thread. I have cm9 and when I connect my phone to the com, I can only access my external sd. Is there a way to access the internal storage as well?
Thanks
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iDelta said:
Hey guys I have been asking everywhere but no one has replied me so I have no choice but to post a new thread. I have cm9 and when I connect my phone to the com, I can only access my external sd. Is there a way to access the internal storage as well?
Thanks
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When you attach it you're going to see your external sd card. If you browse inside it you should see a folder called "external_sd" or something like it, inside it you should get access to your internal storage.
I may be wrong though. Try it and let me know if it works.
iDelta said:
Hey guys I have been asking everywhere but no one has replied me so I have no choice but to post a new thread. I have cm9 and when I connect my phone to the com, I can only access my external sd. Is there a way to access the internal storage as well?
Thanks
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Try changing usb connection to mtp. Im able to see internal and external sd card when connecting to pc, but the prob is, i cant copy files from pc to phone and vice versa. When connecting to PC using mass storage im able to see external sd but no internal sd,but i can copy files from pc to phone and vice versa. So my advice, if you want to see your internal using usb nass storage, try removing your external sd and connect phone to pc again and see if youre able to see your internal. I think this is known bug in cm9 since external card is mounted as emmc and not as external_sd anymore.
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Karmalot said:
Try changing usb connection to mtp. Im able to see internal and external sd card when connecting to pc, but the prob is, i cant copy files from pc to phone and vice versa. When connecting to PC using mass storage im able to see external sd but no internal sd,but i can copy files from pc to phone and vice versa. So my advice, if you want to see your internal using usb nass storage, try removing your external sd and connect phone to pc again and see if youre able to see your internal. I think this is known bug in cm9 since external card is mounted as emmc and not as external_sd anymore.
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I need to transfer files from the pc to mobile
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If you need to transfer files urgently into your internal memory, my suggestion is that you transfer the file to your external memory, then you use your phone to transfer files internally from Ext.sd to Int.sd
imadiu said:
If you need to transfer files urgently into your internal memory, my suggestion is that you transfer the file to your external memory, then you use your phone to transfer files internally from Ext.sd to Int.sd
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What if it's 1.4 gig
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iDelta said:
What if it's 1.4 gig
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LOL... Got to have a bigger ext.sd then...
imadiu said:
LOL... Got to have a bigger ext.sd then...
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As in to transfer to ext sd. Anyway, to not make a new thread, do you know how to transfer game loft games' data to the ext sd? I have gt racing on my phone and it's filling up the only 1.7 gig internal of my phone.
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iDelta said:
As in to transfer to ext sd. Anyway, to not make a new thread, do you know how to transfer game loft games' data to the ext sd? I have gt racing on my phone and it's filling up the only 1.7 gig internal of my phone.
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Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328053
ishis99 said:
Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328053
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My good friend, I have tried. I try transferring gt racing to the external sd but Idk how to use it. I already installed it so is that a problem for transferring? Please help!
Alrighty got it to work...
Anyone can spare a link to a flash able Bravia Engine
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iDelta said:
As in to transfer to ext sd. Anyway, to not make a new thread, do you know how to transfer game loft games' data to the ext sd? I have gt racing on my phone and it's filling up the only 1.7 gig internal of my phone.
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If your phone is rooted, you can use Link2SD. You will first have to split your MICROSD into 2 partitions and format the 2nd partition as ext2.
There are *lots* of tutorials on this; use your favorite search engine to find one.
Alternatively, use a custom ROM that supports external/internal SD swap, and reinstall everything.
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pepoluan said:
If your phone is rooted, you can use Link2SD. You will first have to split your MICROSD into 2 partitions and format the 2nd partition as ext2.
There are *lots* of tutorials on this; use your favorite search engine to find one.
Alternatively, use a custom ROM that supports external/internal SD swap, and reinstall everything.
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Anyway, I saw this guy mentioning that there was this app on play store (free and paid) which allow both internal and external SD to appear on the PC. It something multi sd thing. Try and search it.
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Any help me..how to make swap ram..i'm using rom slimbean.
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what swap ram? using swap partition?
fixero said:
Any help me..how to make swap ram..i'm using rom slimbean.
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Don't do it. You risk burning your SD card for using it as a RAM.
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can anyone tell me how big is the risk?im using class 10 sdcard.n already did the ram swap for 512mb
What swap ram = swap sd card???? Or difference??
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fixero said:
What swap ram = swap sd card???? Or difference??
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what i understand is it swap the free memory from the sd card and use it as a RAM.si more multitasking can be done.u can search RAM expander from play store and read the app description
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as a result the performance of the sd card decrease.they said this happen mostly for sdcard below class8..ram manager apps also have the RAM swap function
afif_7070 said:
what i understand is it swap the free memory from the sd card and use it as a RAM.si more multitasking can be done.u can search RAM expander from play store and read the app description
edit:
as a result the performance of the sd card decrease.they said this happen mostly for sdcard below class8..ram manager apps also have the RAM swap function
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the bad effect of swapping with low class sd card is your system performance will decrease due to slow speed of sd card. not to mention sd card has limit of read and write capability. this swap ram need huge amount of read and write. so it's not adviseable to swap from internal storage as it can't be repaired while a bad sd card can be simply replaced
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simply a couple of people tried to swap thr RAM and both got hard brick thr phones and had to go back to their SSC
SO DON'T TRY IT or ull risk breaking ur phone as well
mosta_9741 said:
simply a couple of people tried to swap thr RAM and both got hard brick thr phones and had to go back to their SSC
SO DON'T TRY IT or ull risk breaking ur phone as well
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To be precise: DON'T USE ANY APP TO CREATE SWAP MEMORY.
Create one yourself from terminal. Perfectly safe.
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pepoluan said:
To be precise: DON'T USE ANY APP TO CREATE SWAP MEMORY.
Create one yourself from terminal. Perfectly safe.
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How to do it? Please teach us
To create a swap RAM:
Code:
su
targ=/mnt/sdcard/.swapfile
dd if=/dev/zero of=$targ bs=$((1024*1024)) count=64
mkswap $targ
Do the above just once.
To activate the swap memory:
Code:
su
swapon /mnt/sdcard/.swapfile
Activate on every boot.
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this will use internal memory or external?
in case external, should i make a partition of the external card for it? or is just rigth?
Imaeda said:
this will use internal memory or external?
in case external, should i make a partition of the external card for it? or is just rigth?
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The actual location depends on whether you've swapped SD Cards. With a swap, the above points to the external SD Card. If you haven't swapped SD Cards, then you need to change /mnt/sdcard to /mnt/external_sd
You don't need to create a separate swap partition; the method above creates a swap *file* instead.
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pepoluan said:
The actual location depends on whether you've swapped SD Cards. With a swap, the above points to the external SD Card. If you haven't swapped SD Cards, then you need to change /mnt/sdcard to /mnt/external_sd
You don't need to create a separate swap partition; the method above creates a swap *file* instead.
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the file he creates is 64Mb not 1gb, is that normal?
the not normal is when i active the file he say she dont exist???
should i reboot and activate it or i did somethingg wrong?
Imaeda said:
the file he creates is 64Mb not 1gb, is that normal?
the not normal is when i active the file he say she dont exist???
should i reboot and activate it or i did somethingg wrong?
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I have experimented *a lot* with swap memory, and I can tell you with absolute confidence:
Swap files larger than 64 MiB *will* result in additional lags. Larger than 128 MiB, your phone will be very slow.
To activate, you don't need to reboot.
Go to the Terminal and enter the command:
cd /mnt/sdcard
ls .*
(replace "sdcard" with the actual location of where you created the swap file, of course)
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just to put all together, sorry ask so much :angel:
first: create the file: check
second: activate with ( swapon /mnt/external_sd/.swapfile) on the boot
third: then swap with (cd /mnt/sdcard ls .*)
is only those the 3 steps?
it will broke my Sd card on a short time?
Imaeda said:
just to put all together, sorry ask so much :angel:
first: create the file: check
second: activate with ( swapon /mnt/external_sd/.swapfile) on the boot
third: then swap with (cd /mnt/sdcard ls .*)
is only those the 3 steps?
it will broke my Sd card on a short time?
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The 3rd command is only to verify that the file .swapfile is there.
Remember that during all steps use the same path; either /mnt/sdcard or /mnt/external_sd. DO NOT mix them.
@pepoluan how to check if its working or not?
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free -m ?
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eryzerz said:
free -m ?
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Yup.
The last line will show that your swap file has been pressed into duty.
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i have
386MB free internal storage
11 GB free on sd-card
why it said (out of space ) wen i try to instal new app ?????
the problem is only with T B
kilouhm said:
i have
386MB internal storage
11 GB on sd-card
why it said (out of space ) wen i try to instal new app ?????
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Because apps are automatically installed into internal memory.
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kilouhm said:
i have
386MB free internal storage
11 GB free on sd-card
why it said (out of space ) wen i try to instal new app ?????
the problem is only with T B
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solved
How did you solve it?
What was root cause of problem?
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vr5411 said:
How did you solve it?
What was root cause of problem?
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He probably used link2sd or something similar or just copied apps to sdcard manually.