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Considering a switch from the GNexus

Heya guys,
I've got the ever present upgrade itch that everyone here must know about......
I'm really looking into a good phone camera that has decent battery life as well since I can't always bring me DSLR with me around all the time.
How development and everything for the One X? Battery life? I'm looking specifically at the international version.
Thanks

Development is great. Some solid roms for this device within the first month. Can't imagine what it will be like in half a year or when there's an s-off exploit found. Obviously the phone has some great attraction for some of the features it carries and the design.
On ARHD rom right now I get about 18-22 hours of battery life moderate usage, light usage a couple of days, and heavy usage about 10 hours. I'm very satisfied with this phone. Some other people can drop there comments and let you know; also, there's an official reviews thread you should probably check out.
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UnlockedNand said:
Development is great. Some solid roms for this device within the first month. Can't imagine what it will be like in half a year or when there's an s-off exploit found. Obviously the phone has some great attraction for some of the features it carries and the design.
On ARHD rom right now I get about 18-22 hours of battery life moderate usage, light usage a couple of days, and heavy usage about 10 hours. I'm very satisfied with this phone. Some other people can drop there comments and let you know; also, there's an official reviews thread you should probably check out.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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whats the screen time like when you use it heavily (as according to above 10hrs phone on but how long for screen?)
hmmm
any major bugs? I'd like to try sense out as the only HTC phone that I've used was my mum's Desire Z that I automatically flashed CM7 on back when she had it.
I've "heard" that there are some screen flickering issues and launcher reloading.....
any comments would be greatly appreciated

I've had my One X for 1.5 weeks now and zero problems whatsoever I get about 12-13hrs from the battery with 3-4h screentime

droid_does said:
Heya guys,
I've got the ever present upgrade itch that everyone here must know about......
I'm really looking into a good phone camera that has decent battery life as well since I can't always bring me DSLR with me around all the time.
How development and everything for the One X? Battery life? I'm looking specifically at the international version.
Thanks
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Here's some info on battery life. It's better than the GN. But the GN has the option of extended and replacable batteries which the One X doesn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25725630&postcount=25
As for the camera, I don't think it's finished yet. There's been discussion about noise and compression. Some of the pics I've taken in iffy light haven't been that great. The h/w's there I think the s/w needs some tweaking. If you could live with the camera on the GN the One X will be a step up.

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's some info on battery life. It's better than the GN. But the GN has the option of extended and replacable batteries which the One X doesn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25725630&postcount=25
As for the camera, I don't think it's finished yet. There's been discussion about noise and compression. Some of the pics I've taken in iffy light haven't been that great. The h/w's there I think the s/w needs some tweaking. If you could live with the camera on the GN the One X will be a step up.
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Ahhh thanks. But i guess i could circumnavigate the integrated battery by having an external portable battery pack....hmmmm
Tough choice. I'll wait for some more comments and opinions first
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

droid_does said:
Ahhh thanks. But i guess i could circumnavigate the integrated battery by having an external portable battery pack....hmmmm
Tough choice. I'll wait for some more comments and opinions first
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Watch reviews and videos about the s3 vs One x phones..then make your decision. I would say One X. Good phone solid great specs and if you are a gamer you will be happy with the Tegra 3 chip...Battery life is solid so far no complaints. Development i am sure it will pick up...So its down to you my friend

NoobTerminator said:
Watch reviews and videos about the s3 vs One x phones..then make your decision. I would say One X. Good phone solid great specs and if you are a gamer you will be happy with the Tegra 3 chip...Battery life is solid so far no complaints. Development i am sure it will pick up...So its down to you my friend
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I'm definitely let down by the S3....its seems so similar in many ways to the GNexus that I wouldn't consider it as an "upgrade". I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to people without smartphones though.
the HTCOX screams of something desirable to me.......still hesitant though right now
keep those comments flowing in please

droid_does said:
whats the screen time like when you use it heavily (as according to above 10hrs phone on but how long for screen?)
hmmm
any major bugs? I'd like to try sense out as the only HTC phone that I've used was my mum's Desire Z that I automatically flashed CM7 on back when she had it.
I've "heard" that there are some screen flickering issues and launcher reloading.....
any comments would be greatly appreciated
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The 10 hours probably around 5-6 hours of continuous screen display running videos, games, and other tasks. No sense issues at all except for it uses a lot more battery than pure ics. The screen flickering is unconfirmed as to what is the underlying issue (software or hardware) related. HTC is looking into the screen flickering right now, and launcher reloading I've never had.

I'd say wait 1 month.
QC issues iron over time. S-OFF is not ready as yet. The lack of such 'freedom' will be shocking to a GN user.
Custom ROMs for this device are excellent both in quality and quantity. This is a very popular handset, thus community support is very high.
Battery life is really good. Depending on screen usage you can get 1.5 days usage easy. Heavy usage will obviously reduce that by a lot.

UnlockedNand said:
The 10 hours probably around 5-6 hours of continuous screen display running videos, games, and other tasks. No sense issues at all except for it uses a lot more battery than pure ics. The screen flickering is unconfirmed as to what is the underlying issue (software or hardware) related. HTC is looking into the screen flickering right now, and launcher reloading I've never had.
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junialum said:
I'd say wait 1 month.
QC issues iron over time. S-OFF is not ready as yet. The lack of such 'freedom' will be shocking to a GN user.
Custom ROMs for this device are excellent both in quality and quantity. This is a very popular handset, thus community support is very high.
Battery life is really good. Depending on screen usage you can get 1.5 days usage easy. Heavy usage will obviously reduce that by a lot.
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Thanks guys! If anybody has anything else to add please do so
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

OK so I have a galaxy nexus and got it on launch back in november. I picked up a one x because I really liked the look of it, but so far I can't decide which phone to keep.
The One X is great because it’s lovely to hold, has a fantastic screen and a very decent camera. But the software lets it down – and that’s not some lazy complaint. I’ve owned the phone for two weeks. Whilst Sense 4.0 is a big improvement over previous versions, I still struggle to find any part of it where it’s better than stock ICS, except perhaps the lockscreen which allows multiple targets. But that functionality is common in custom ICS ROMs anyway.
Stock ICS is, I feel, about as good as Android could be at the moment. This makes having to put up with the unnecessary ‘embellishments’ and changes on the One X is frustrating. HTC’s launcher is also considerably laggier than the stock Android 4.0 launcher, and whilst installing Nova launcher helps, I’m not sure why HTC felt the need to use their own anyway.
I must say I totally agree with The Verge’s conclusion on the One X – with stock ICS, it could be the best Android phone ever. Until then… Im just not sure which phone to keep!

ref1ux said:
OK so I have a galaxy nexus and got it on launch back in november. I picked up a one x because I really liked the look of it, but so far I can't decide which phone to keep.
The One X is great because it’s lovely to hold, has a fantastic screen and a very decent camera. But the software lets it down – and that’s not some lazy complaint. I’ve owned the phone for two weeks. Whilst Sense 4.0 is a big improvement over previous versions, I still struggle to find any part of it where it’s better than stock ICS, except perhaps the lockscreen which allows multiple targets. But that functionality is common in custom ICS ROMs anyway.
Stock ICS is, I feel, about as good as Android could be at the moment. This makes having to put up with the unnecessary ‘embellishments’ and changes on the One X is frustrating. HTC’s launcher is also considerably laggier than the stock Android 4.0 launcher, and whilst installing Nova launcher helps, I’m not sure why HTC felt the need to use their own anyway.
I must say I totally agree with The Verge’s conclusion on the One X – with stock ICS, it could be the best Android phone ever. Until then… Im just not sure which phone to keep!
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I'm in the same position, I'm really not sure which one to keep either - I suspect I will still be saying the same in two months time though!
HTC should have gone out on a limb and developed a dual boot - let the users decide whether they want to run sense or stock.
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Bumping this up. Thanks for the replies so far
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

pnnorth said:
I'm in the same position, I'm really not sure which one to keep either - I suspect I will still be saying the same in two months time though!
HTC should have gone out on a limb and developed a dual boot - let the users decide whether they want to run sense or stock.
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Yeah I've had the phone nearly a month and still can't decide! Argh
Someone's developing a CM9 port over at Modaco and it's getting close to finished (just a few bugs left to squash). So if it's good enough, I might just install it and sell the Nexus.

ref1ux said:
Yeah I've had the phone nearly a month and still can't decide! Argh
Someone's developing a CM9 port over at Modaco and it's getting close to finished (just a few bugs left to squash). So if it's good enough, I might just install it and sell the Nexus.
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thanks
any other comments? battery, camera, screen etc? usability?

I've only used an older version for a few minutes, but on the surface everything works fine. It's mostly just odd bugs they're sorting out now. I'd link the thread, but things are a bit iffy between XDA and the developer at Modaco.
Either way, back on my GNex now and it feels like an old friend. Love this phone.

DHD worth it?

What's up fellas?
I'm currently using Sony Ericsson Arc S and to be honest, I'm not happy with it.... I put my phone on sale and I got an offer. Someone wants to exchange his Desire HD to my Arc. The hardware is pretty identical, processor(Arc has 1.4GHz Snappy, but basically it's just factory clocked 1GHz one). Both are about the same price when new.
Does this phone have something really worth... Desiring?
DHD has a lot more roms than Arc, and it's something I like.
Thanks!
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The DHD is an amazing phone with a lot of awesome, stable ROMs for it. Including ICS. But it's slowly becoming a legacy device. Many of the devs who used to make the best ROMs a few months back have now moved on to other devices. Mainly HTC One X and One S. In terms of Gingerbread ROM development, the DHD has reached a state where many of the GB ROMs available for it are in a very stable state, and there's not much to be done with them anymore in terms of bug fixes and new features. The DHD will receive one last round of development when the official ICS upgrade (announced by HTC) is released, which will help mainly to fix the camcorder in all the existing ICS ROMs by providing the required driver. Right now one ROM still going great in terms of development is IceColdSandwich by LorD ClockaN, which is a the best ICS ROM for the DHD.
I'm basically telling you the scene with DHD development right now, so that you can make up your mind better. If you can manage to get a newer generation device in the next few months, then I'd suggest you hold off this trade and get a new device once for all. But if you have no plans of getting a new device, then I'd say trade. The DHD is an awesome device with a very strong build quality and great performance (depending on ROM and kernel used). Feels very solid in the hand. Though it received dreadful battery life reviews when it was launched, that hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. I can get 1+ day with light use and 8 hours with very heavy use. The processor can be overclocked to 2 GHz too (if required) depending on the kernel used. I'd prefer it over the Arc S any day.

sashank said:
The DHD is an amazing phone with a lot of awesome, stable ROMs for it. Including ICS. But it's slowly becoming a legacy device. Many of the devs who used to make the best ROMs a few months back have now moved on to other devices. Mainly HTC One X and One S. In terms of Gingerbread ROM development, the DHD has reached a state where many of the GB ROMs available for it are in a very stable state, and there's not much to be done with them anymore in terms of bug fixes and new features. The DHD will receive one last round of development when the official ICS upgrade (announced by HTC) is released, which will help mainly to fix the camcorder in all the existing ICS ROMs by providing the required driver. Right now one ROM still going great in terms of development is IceColdSandwich by LorD ClockaN, which is a the best ICS ROM for the DHD.
I'm basically telling you the scene with DHD development right now, so that you can make up your mind better. If you can manage to get a newer generation device in the next few months, then I'd suggest you hold off this trade and get a new device once for all. But if you have no plans of getting a new device, then I'd say trade. The DHD is an awesome device with a very strong build quality and great performance (depending on ROM and kernel used). Feels very solid in the hand. Though it received dreadful battery life reviews when it was launched, that hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. I can get 1+ day with light use and 8 hours with very heavy use. The processor can be overclocked to 2 GHz too (if required) depending on the kernel used. I'd prefer it over the Arc S any day.
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Aye, overclock the DHD to 2 Ghz if you wanna FRY your phone, or if your lucky....just reduce the life of it by 90%.
With the mentioned ICS build....yeah, go for it, but don't exprect to be able to take pictures, take videos or read Sim card contacts etc etc.
HTC Desire, for me, using NON-ICS Roms has been AWESOME. Solid build, feels quality, fast etc...if I had a choice i.e. money wasn't object....I'd get the HTC One X...but still keep my Desire HD as a 2nd/backup phone, coz it's sooooo awesome and reliable.
Matt

Yeah, the thing is that Arc has dozens of roms, but it its always slow. I don't know why... I've read a lit of people telling how great Dhd is, and I'm pretty sure it beats Arc. I don't know, they're about the same price, do there's not much to lose... I'll go for it!
Thanks for in fo guys. I'll trade my Arc to Dhd. I'm gonna buy newer phone later.
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Move from HOS to HOX ?

Hello everyone,
for the past few days Ive been thinking about selling my HOS to a friend of mine for 200€ and buy a HOX instead.
I just want to hear your thoughts about the Device overall, since Ive read some really bad reviews ( faulty Hardware, hard to code for Tegra 3 etc ) and stuff like that.
On the other side, the Development Section of the HOS is pretty much Dead and when I start looking at the HOX Section my pants get wet
Maybe someone moved from one Device to another, please tell me what you think.
Thank you

I came from a GNexus.
The screen on the HOX is beautiful. It's really fast and fluid. Tegra 3 optimised games are visually stunning. Battery life is good, I get around 3.5 hours screen on time and I hear is even better on Sense roms. And best of all we have official CM10 nightlys.
The only down side for me is that we don't have s-off, but really that's nothing, just means I have to wait til I get home from work to flash a new kernel.
The majority of users don't seem to have any hardware faults, although faults do exist.
You should keep an eye on the Marketplace here and see if you can trade your HOS + cash for a HOX.

Michealtbh said:
I came from a GNexus.
The screen on the HOX is beautiful. It's really fast and fluid. Tegra 3 optimised games are visually stunning. Battery life is good, I get around 3.5 hours screen on time and I hear is even better on Sense roms. And best of all we have official CM10 nightlys.
The only down side for me is that we don't have s-off, but really that's nothing, just means I have to wait til I get home from work to flash a new kernel.
The majority of users don't seem to have any hardware faults, although faults do exist.
You should keep an eye on the Marketplace here and see if you can trade your HOS + cash for a HOX.
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Well, the HOS also has official CM10 Nightlies, but maybe just look at the Development Section yourself.
We only have like 1 fully working Kernel and pretty much all Roms are full of Bugs, not to mention that we only have 2 or 3 Roms that are active.
As user you dont have a big Selection of Roms or Kernels.

CM10 support?

Hi there. At the moment, I have a Galaxy Note that I am considering replacing with an HTC One X. As I understand it, CM9 and 10 support has been very limited for Samsung devices due to problems with getting hold of the Exynos sources which means that Samsung versions of CM10 are often underperforming compared to what they should be doing. I was just wondering if a similar situation existed with the HTC One X or if it performed better or at least much closer to its full ability?
Thank you in advance for your help!
Take care,
Stalks

I've been running CM10 on my One X for about 3 weeks now with no issues at all.
Two things you need to consider:
1. The battery life isn't fantastic with CM10 (I get about 12 hours with normal use as opposed to about 24 hours with stock ROM).
2. You have to flash the boot.img manually via fastboot as there is no solution for S-OFF, and probably won't ever be.
These things considered, if you are looking at buying a new device to run Vanilla Jellybean, you might be better off with a Nexus 4. That's what I'd do if I had my time again. Having said that, I'm still very happy with my One X.
Hope this helps.

Known Issues with tegra 3 one x?

Hi all,
I am a LG G2x owner that foolishly bought the phone knowing it was a dual core phone at a cheap price. After exploring forums, I later found out LG never updates the device and there are coding problems so we will never get fully working ics/jb on it. Thankfully, there were no glaring hardware flaws.
Is there any software/hardware flaws that I need to know about before I buy one off of ebay? I know a bit about the wifi hardware issue. How many people are affected by it? I just don't want to be caught in a dead end phone with constant problems.
On another note how is the battery life?
Thanks guys.

No s-off....

I've had no wifi issues. Most phones have the JB update. I wouldn't hold your breath for anymore though. ROM development is pretty good. AOKP/AOSP have ironed out most bugs so you have lots of options there.
Battery life is on par for phones with similar screen size etc. It should easily get you through the day with "normal" use.

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No s-off....
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peedub said:
I've had no wifi issues. Most phones have the JB update. I wouldn't hold your breath for anymore though. ROM development is pretty good. AOKP/AOSP have ironed out most bugs so you have lots of options there.
Battery life is on par for phones with similar screen size etc. It should easily get you through the day with "normal" use.
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Do most people or minority have the WiFi issue? Is there any road blocks that would stop development? (Like driver stuff not hardware) for example the radio on g2x has weird coding or something that stops call audio to work in cm development.
Sent from my sexy G2x

Our phones are still semi-locked. We couldn't install SENSE roms without the firmware update from HTC, which was rolled out slowly and is limited to very specific regions. The majority of unbranded handsets and some branded have the latest firmware so are good to go.
AOSP/AOKP roms don't have this limitation, so we've been able to install them all along.
HTC releases their kernel source eventually, so I think we're OK on that front. We are still waiting on the JB kernel, however.
I think the wifi issue was more of a problem when people were installing the leaked JB firmware. It wasn't a final product and had a few issues, wifi being one of them. Now that the official firmware has been released, I haven't seen this issue so much.

peedub said:
Our phones are still semi-locked. We couldn't install SENSE roms without the firmware update from HTC, which was rolled out slowly and is limited to very specific regions. The majority of unbranded handsets and some branded have the latest firmware so are good to go.
AOSP/AOKP roms don't have this limitation, so we've been able to install them all along.
HTC releases their kernel source eventually, so I think we're OK on that front. We are still waiting on the JB kernel, however.
I think the wifi issue was more of a problem when people were installing the leaked JB firmware. It wasn't a final product and had a few issues, wifi being one of them. Now that the official firmware has been released, I haven't seen this issue so much.
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OK good I like clean android anyway. Would unbranded international phones get the updates first?
Sent from my sexy G2x

The Taiwan phones got the official update first (it turned out to have issues).
A few weeks later the Asia WWE (world wide english) versions got a newer update that doesn't seem to have any issues followed by International WWE version.
Now India, Philippines, Egypt, Romania, Malaysia, Singapore, and Hong Kong unbranded phones have updates.
The ones that are still waiting are carrier branded like H3G, Orange, Vodafone etc.
(There are some brilliant roms based off the official sense roms with a few tweaks here and there)

peedub said:
The Taiwan phones got the official update first (it turned out to have issues).
A few weeks later the Asia WWE (world wide english) versions got a newer update that doesn't seem to have any issues followed by International WWE version.
Now India, Philippines, Egypt, Romania, Malaysia, Singapore, and Hong Kong unbranded phones have updates.
The ones that are still waiting are carrier branded like H3G, Orange, Vodafone etc.
(There are some brilliant roms based off the official sense roms with a few tweaks here and there)
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Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to try all the diff options for ROMs before settling . But first I gotta win the eBay auction I refuse to settle for the dual core version
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Haha. Good luck man!
The stock ones I've tried, and think are great, are Maximus and ARHD for JB. Viper ROM is my fav, but no JB just yet.
Here is a great list of the available roms, listed as sense, or non-sense (AOKP/AOSP/MIUI) roms

Thanks just an hour left
Sent from my sexy G2x

Just looked up what s-off meant.. I'm still a little confused. What types of ROMs are s-off and what are s-on? I didn't face these on the lg threads
Sent from my sexy G2x

S-On means that we can't flash boot.img files from recovery. We have to do it from fastboot. Generally, all except a special few are s-on.
We also don't have full access to parts of the phone like radio or hboot.
The issue with the Sense JB roms is that they were dependant on a new hboot, which had to be rolled out officially. This doesn't affect AOSP roms, it was only to do with a restriction HTC had on their Sense modifications.
As long as the phone you're buying isn't carrier branded, you will be able to flash just about everything. (you may need to update it first)

peedub said:
S-On means that we can't flash boot.img files from recovery. We have to do it from fastboot. Generally, all except a special few are s-on.
We also don't have full access to parts of the phone like radio or hboot.
The issue with the Sense JB roms is that they were dependant on a new hboot, which had to be rolled out officially. This doesn't affect AOSP roms, it was only to do with a restriction HTC had on their Sense modifications.
As long as the phone you're buying isn't carrier branded, you will be able to flash just about everything. (you may need to update it first)
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Ah ok I think I get it. So basically custom Roms have to come from vanilla android not based off of sense Roms? And the one I'm getting is 32GB unlocked international one x with tegra 3
Sent from my sexy G2x

Custom roms that are modified from the sense roms require a certain hboot version. Hopefully the one you're getting is one that has the update rolled out.
You'll have fun with it either way, it's a great phone. There are some great roms out there.

If you want good battery life, go for sgs3 instead.

TToivanen said:
If you want good battery life, go for sgs3 instead.
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Eh I don't wanna follow mainstream usa. I don't really like the s3 anyway. And as for battery life is it possible to last the day with moderate usage?
Edit.:too late now I'm officially a hox Owner! Just awaiting to go pick it up. What should I run/do with it now that I have it
Sent from my sexy G2x

PaKii94 said:
Eh I don't wanna follow mainstream usa. I don't really like the s3 anyway. And as for battery life is it possible to last the day with moderate usage?
Sent from my sexy G2x
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You live in the USA and want to buy the international One X? Fair enough...
It can go through the day quite easily with moderate usage, but if you use it more than 4hours a day it might be difficult.

TToivanen said:
You live in the USA and want to buy the international One X? Fair enough...
It can go through the day quite easily with moderate usage, but if you use it more than 4hours a day it might be difficult.
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Lol I wanted T 3 version and one x+is too expensive . I don't like the display on s3 and how hyped it was. I would have gotten optimusg but not much DEV support. The nexus 4 would have worked but overpriced on eBay. I'm on T-Mobile and don't use data so 4g doesn't bother Me. If I was to get data. It would be in Chicago where T-Mobile has refarmed the 1900 towers for 4g.
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I don't have any issues with battery running out. (I can get 1.5 days out of one charge) I don't do anything special like underclocking... Actually, I do use advanced power mod to reduce automatic brightness levels.
I think you'll only run into issues if you love playing games, or don't have a job and use your phone aaaaalll day.