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[Q] Rosie app drawer lag?

Ok so I don't know what the hell is going on but for some reason the Rosie app drawer from any sense GB Rom is laggy. There is always some sort of lag, I don't know if its just me or other people are experiencing it. The super smooth homescreen scrolling was made but is the app drawer posible to be optimised?

If you are willing to change the rom then may i suggest getting the rcmix3d runny 3.1 rom so far the the best rom i have tried it has no lags or freezes and the battery life is also excellent.

That's because of the crappy coded sense apps. every single one of them is laggy. not much you can do about. OC helps a little but it will be still laggy.
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I was running Runny 3.1 the other day, I flash all sorts of Sense roms and the only thing I have problems with is the app drawer. It's not exactly lag, just a lower FPS than a lot of other UI elements such as the homescreen.

CHAMAVELI said:
I was running Runny 3.1 the other day, I flash all sorts of Sense roms and the only thing I have problems with is the app drawer. It's not exactly lag, just a lower FPS than a lot of other UI elements such as the homescreen.
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check this out. its all you need...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302914

This is about the app drawer. Not the homescreen itself.
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LeatherFace said:
check this out. its all you need...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302914
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Thanks, but I'm already running this. As Flussen said this is about the app drawer. Is anyone else having this issue? It's easily seen when one of the unlimited scrolling mods are applied.

Do you mean the lag when you touch the ▩ to open the app drawer?
I have the same problem, it's not much, maybe 1/4 to 1/2 of a second but it's annoying. I don't like the iPhone but you have to admit everything's super smooth there. Unlike my DHD on Sense 3. It feels like a slightly underperforming PC.
I tried both the Supercharger and Smooth Sense 3 but I'm not sure there is any effect at all.
And definitely nothing about the app drawer lagging.
I don't know why only some people report this, either most people don't care/notice or it really only happens on some phones. That'd be strange though. Has anyone tried the official HTC Sense 3 ROM, does the problem occur there as well?
I'm thinking about downgrading to Sense 2, there isn't much I'd miss from 3 besides the lock screen and that can be patched into Sense 2.
Is there an easy way to flash any Sense 3 ROM with Sense 2? Maybe just by replacing the rosie apk?

[Q] Best ROM for Desire Z for BEST RAM PERFORMANCE

Hello. I need help regarding the best ROM for my Desire Z. I need either sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 and need the best possible ram as i have already installed 4 ROMs and i have had problems with lags in messages and the lag in circle ring lock. overall homescreens as smooth but i need ram for reading msgs fast and applications launch quickly like on my default sense 2.1. i have tried runnydroid which is probably the fastest in homescreen scrolling but very weak in ram and opening apps. currently running desire HD rom with sense 3.0 v1.3 which is slightly better but i need something better in terms of RAM and with sense 3.0 or 3.5
help would be really appreciated
thanks

first of all, let's clear things out... sense 3.x was never meant to run on our desire z, i say HTC made a mistake when they released an official 3.x update
second, sense 3.x needs LOTS of ram to work. So, you don't have enough ram to run apps, solution? try the v6 supercharger script, set it as multitasking settings...
want more? make a SWAP partition on your sdcard, SWAP makes a part of your sdcard to work as ram...
want even more, you can bulletproof you messages app in order not to automatically kill it when in need of ram
i'll give you links if you want
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Riro Zizo; I'll take you up on that offer of links please!

Stick with AOSP.
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v6 supercharger script & guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SWAP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Bulletproof apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
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First of all thanks for your kind replies. Riro Zizo thanks alot for these links. Can you tell me which ROM what work the best with these? the thing is that there must be a ROM which would be better in RAM performance. like my desire HD rom was better than runnydroid at least it was usable. now what do u mean by official sense 3.0 update? my last update was android 2.3.3 with 2.1 sense which is why i installed custom roms to get newer sense. thanks a lot
and blackknightavalon what do u mean by AOSP?
thanks a lot
oh one more thing. ive heard that with swap the sdcard gets a lower life and it dies quickly after a while

Android open source project. Like CyanogenMod, for example.
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)

fingertrouble said:
Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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I agree... Sense-less ROMs are the best ones and they run the smoothest on Desire Z. I first took on CM7 and then moved to Bulletproof's MIUI which stopped me from selling my phone. However, even then the phone started to lag after a months use. Next step was to move to Elitemod244 which is basically based on CM7 but supercharged and ultra-fast. This stopped me from dumping my phone to get a Galaxy Nexus.
I would recommend that you try Elitemod244 (or the latest version if you want) and then modify it to your liking. It will take some time, but at least your phone will be fast and would work as it should instead of hanging or reloading the launcher time n time again.

thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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In that case i would go for Virtuous Sense, doesn't have to much bullsht in it..
And for the lost messages, there is standard an app installed in these roms that collects all your messages.
Btw.. I'm surfing xda for 2 years now daily, and today is the first time i made an account Really EVERYTHING about everything has been asked before i came here, so there was no need for it.
Just wanted to say this...

you can try any sense rom you want without any issues if you do all these tweaks i told you about... launcher reloads can be solved by making a file called "local.prop" in /data/ (if you already have the file, edit it) and put this inside it
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
and reboot... this WILL solve your problem, GUARANTEED

Why do you need Sense that bad? We're trying to get rid of it over on the MT4GS boards.

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.

kierren said:
Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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bulletproofing apps means preventing it from getting killed... you were right
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Blackout incredible has Sense 3.6 And when I apply the v6Supercharger it works pretty fine. But remember that you need to Format your SD card before you install it. It gives you extra performance. atleast it happened to me.

I fully understand why you might want a SENSE rom.
I have tried many roms since my DZ is out of warranty, the Mimicry one was nearly the best, except it had bad performances after some weeks of usage.
And this AOSP was a android 4 rom with nice custom features, but there was a LOT i missed from SENSE. Let's just talk about the weather/clock widget, the audio player, the FM radio app, the nice interface, the perfect virtual keyboard...
Sense really offers the best user experience on that phone.
A few days ago I finally the perfect rom, you should try it: TrickDroid 4.0.0
As told in the corresponding topic on xda, you just absolutely need to enable swap because it's a full Sense 4.
And if you want some specific tweaks from AOSP, of you want to remove some things from Sense, the TrickDroid Tweaks allows you to simply do that.
TrickDroid on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981059

Will HTC Sense 4.0 be available for Desire from xda when released?

Main features from Sense 4.0 as follows:
Based on Ice-cream sandwich (long waited android OS)
Better DropBox integration with 50GB online storage (can auto mount as network drive.)
Notifications on lock screen (like iOS 5)
Enhanced email with new Sense
Guest Mode
Beats audio is now standard from HTC now on ...
Video:
Reference:
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sense-40-first-impressions

Depends...
The memory footprint for sense keeps on growing and becoming larger with each new version
I suspect ICS + Sense 4.0 will take up a huge amount of memory.
I'm quite sure there will be a way to get it, but your internal memory will be less.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

I thought they (htc) were suppose to have optimized 3.5 a lot for low-spec phones (i.e. bliss).
I'd guess that unless it comes to the Desire HD / Sensation then it might be a bit unlikely. ICS with sense 3.5 from the sensation doesn't seem to have had a successful port yet.

Lothaen said:
I thought they (htc) were suppose to have optimized 3.5 a lot for low-spec phones (i.e. bliss).
I'd guess that unless it comes to the Desire HD / Sensation then it might be a bit unlikely. ICS with sense 3.5 from the sensation doesn't seem to have had a successful port yet.
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True. That have optimized the newer versions for performance and speed.
However, along the way, they have been adding new apps and widgets which take up space. (fb chat, reader, watch, notes, tasks etc) this means the footprint gets larger.
However, I have read that HTC are aware that their Sense UI has started to become bloated, and they say Sense 4.0 will be a lot different.
Hopefully that's the case.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

i think that no... and if we run one, will be asop...

Of course it's possible, just a matter of time

it'd be easy to reduce the load on sense though by removing some of the bloatware
laputa, stocks for example I always rip out - fb chat, reader, watch can probably easily go too
i still think the BEST way for HTC to go with the likes of bloatware would be to just simply move it to HTC hub as optional downloads/installs rather than forcing crap on users

Lothaen said:
it'd be easy to reduce the load on sense though by removing some of the bloatware
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I agree on this, most of the HTC apps should be optional which could speed up the system. One of the main problem is get the hardware CPU/GPU support from Qualcomm optimize for ICS.

Am I the only one thinking that Sense 4 so far seems to be to cosmetic? Just like 3 was, i think they stepped it up only with 3.5

guesXy said:
Am I the only one thinking that Sense 4 so far seems to be to cosmetic? Just like 3 was, i think they stepped it up only with 3.5
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Well, we haven't really had a in depth look so we can't reall say.
Apparently they have really stepped up their game, and this is the biggest overhaul of the UI to date!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Even 3.5 Sense is incredibly slow on Desire. Why should anyone use such slow GUI?
ICS 4.0 AOSP will be better and faster solution.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

olyloh6696 said:
Well, we haven't really had a in depth look so we can't reall say.
Apparently they have really stepped up their game, and this is the biggest overhaul of the UI to date!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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Not seeing it yet
I thought Sense 2.1 -> Sense 3.0 was one of the bigger overhauls - but even then most of it was minor (i.e. new lockscreen was fairly major, but 3D widgets and carousel was fairly minor)
I guess Sense 1.x -> 2.0/2.1 was fairly major too as they added HTC Sense and HTC Hub - but again one major feature to a lot of minor tweaks..
3.x to 4.x seems to be about the same, with the major update being.... ? the menu animations?

DilbertZG said:
Even 3.5 Sense is incredibly slow on Desire. Why should anyone use such slow GUI?
ICS 4.0 AOSP will be better and faster solution.
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Well that tells me you not tried all sense 3.5 roms out.
Sab... 15 Runnymede rom is super fast as long you have the sd card for it class 4 and above.
I would even say this rom is faster than miui and that's saying something.
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shankly1985 said:
Well that tells me you not tried all sense 3.5 roms out.
Sab... 15 Runnymede rom is super fast as long you have the sd card for it class 4 and above.
I would even say this rom is faster than miui and that's saying something.
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Runnymede sense 3.5 rom is fast for me too.
Just add a video link (1st post) showing the new sense look.

Tried Runnymede and lots of ROM from XDA. It looks great,but I always felt lag in it.
Then I go back to Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM. A lot faster than Runnymede. And I do no want to use Runnymede again. Class 4 SD used.
Just put 2 Desires on table, one with Runnymede and other with, let's say, Revolution ROM. And then tell me which one works fast and smooth? Also, on which ROM battery will last longer, under same conditions?
Please, be real and objective.
3.5 ROMs are slow on Desire compared to 2.1+3.0. Period.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk

DilbertZG said:
Tried Runnymede and lots of ROM from XDA. It looks great,but I always felt lag in it.
Then I go back to Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM. A lot faster than Runnymede. And I do no want to use Runnymede again. Class 4 SD used.
Just put 2 Desires on table, one with Runnymede and other with, let's say, Revolution ROM. And then tell me which one works fast and smooth? Also, on which ROM battery will last longer, under same conditions?
Please, be real and objective.
3.5 ROMs are slow on Desire compared to 2.1+3.0. Period.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk
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Not for me and I used I would say a lot of roms, this is the best of them all. For me
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I'm not going to hold my breathe on this one but we have hope

Lothaen said:
Not seeing it yet
I thought Sense 2.1 -> Sense 3.0 was one of the bigger overhauls - but even then most of it was minor (i.e. new lockscreen was fairly major, but 3D widgets and carousel was fairly minor)
I guess Sense 1.x -> 2.0/2.1 was fairly major too as they added HTC Sense and HTC Hub - but again one major feature to a lot of minor tweaks..
3.x to 4.x seems to be about the same, with the major update being.... ? the menu animations?
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Seen videos of the new Sense on the One X (if anyone is interested click here)
Seems theres a new Typeface, lockscreen seems the same as before with slightly tweaked functionality, the launcher at the bottom of the screen is changed to look a bit more like things like GoLauncher, LauncherPro etc.
Side swipe through menu with altered modes (like your favourites, recent etc) something I couldn't make out near the top as well, looks like market loader, a delete function (?)
They seem to have also altered the ICS recent apps thing, if I'm honest it looks a bit like Windows Vista/7 window view.
It seems a lot smoother and neater actually, but on the Desire? 3.5 is still clunky compared to Earlier Pure Sense (2.x etc)and Hybrids, so I'm guessing it'll be a long time till its useable, but I would love to see it implemented!
Before someone says anything like 'Yu havenet used 3.5 its awesomez and supa dupa fast' I have used it with a class 6 card, CoolBliss, did not like it, slow and juttery, went back to the Hybrids. My opinion, don't flame.

[Q]"Wind" effect when headphones plugged in

Hi. I am a new user of this phone, had Desire Z before. The phone is great, huge screen etc. But one thing is very annoying: the "wind" effect when headphones are plugged in. Any solution?
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vaderx10minipro said:
Hi. I am a new user of this phone, had Desire Z before. The phone is great, huge screen etc. But one thing is very annoying: the "wind" effect when headphones are plugged in. Any solution?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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I had this issue with the stock ROM.
I'm on Renovate now and I haven't encountered this yet.

what is the wind effect?

D3VICE said:
I had this issue with the stock ROM.
I'm on Renovate now and I haven't encountered this yet.
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Let's root this phone. Which ROM do u recommmend? It would be good with rotating rosie.
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vaderx10minipro said:
Let's root this phone. Which ROM do u recommmend? It would be good with rotating rosie.
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Here's a few ROMS I've tried.
RD-MIUI - It's beautiful, but it was pretty slow for me, don't get me wrong, but I love the speed and snappiness a nice AOSP ROM offers.
AOKP - Great ROM, but gives me Wifi issues, sometimes it connects, most times it doesn't, it's a hit and run.
RENOVATE - Pretty nice, but slow too, keyboard was lagging and the transition animations were lagging a little bit too.
Slim ICS - I loved this ROM, I think this one had a battery line at the top, which was on the whole top screen, very easy to see how much you have left, very fast too, I'm not sure why I changed from this ROM.
Cyanogenmod 9 - First time I flashed this it gave me random freezes and FC's, but the second time it's being a beast, great rom, but this one has Wifi issues to, but not as much as AOKP had.
Android Revolution HD - What can I say, pretty much the most stable ROM I've tried yet, it's sense though, and if you want something very fast and snappy this one is not for you.
I'm guessing you are now on the stock one with Sense, so you probably haven't experienced the speed of an AOSP ROM on your One X, I suggest you either get CM9, Slim ICS or AOKP, I'm using CM9 now and I've had no issues yet except for the Wifi, but that was last night and today Wifi connected for me without any problems.

D3VICE said:
Here's a few ROMS I've tried.
RD-MIUI - It's beautiful, but it was pretty slow for me, don't get me wrong, but I love the speed and snappiness a nice AOSP ROM offers.
AOKP - Great ROM, but gives me Wifi issues, sometimes it connects, most times it doesn't, it's a hit and run.
RENOVATE - Pretty nice, but slow too, keyboard was lagging and the transition animations were lagging a little bit too.
Slim ICS - I loved this ROM, I think this one had a battery line at the top, which was on the whole top screen, very easy to see how much you have left, very fast too, I'm not sure why I changed from this ROM.
Cyanogenmod 9 - First time I flashed this it gave me random freezes and FC's, but the second time it's being a beast, great rom, but this one has Wifi issues to, but not as much as AOKP had.
Android Revolution HD - What can I say, pretty much the most stable ROM I've tried yet, it's sense though, and if you want something very fast and snappy this one is not for you.
I'm guessing you are now on the stock one with Sense, so you probably haven't experienced the speed of an AOSP ROM on your One X, I suggest you either get CM9, Slim ICS or AOKP, I'm using CM9 now and I've had no issues yet except for the Wifi, but that was last night and today Wifi connected for me without any problems.
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I don't want AOKP, I bought this phone for Sense 4.0. No I'm running InsertCoin and I'm really impressed. The ''recents'' button is menu button, very usable. No lags, but no 3D rosie. Otherwise, the ROM is good.

phil112345 said:
what is the wind effect?
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I think he means the sound that is made when air is blown on a microphone.

invisibleelvis said:
I think he means the sound that is made when air is blown on a microphone.
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Exactly.
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vaderx10minipro said:
Hi. I am a new user of this phone, had Desire Z before. The phone is great, huge screen etc. But one thing is very annoying: the "wind" effect when headphones are plugged in. Any solution?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Pretty sure there is a driver issue that can cause this, I have a buzz so to speak when the music stops like you get when you run audio cables over power, 50hz hum.
Made worse by beats :/
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[Q] Choppy Home Screen Scrolling on Viper X And ARHD - JB

Hello
I Updated from ICS to JB few weeks ago.
In ICS stock rom and viper x (the only ICS Rom i used) the home screen scrolling was so smooth. So smooth.
Now I'm trying ARHD 21.0 and before Viper X 3.6.1 and both were choppy and laggy, only on the home screen/
I did some search and all I could find was people like me with this problem asking for solution but none..
So I'm trying here again, Is there any solution? OC or kernel or something ? Maybe I need to format my SD?
thanx in advance
Shaked1

Try a full wipe, wipe everything twice and install the rom clean.
I'm on viper for a long time now and i never experienced this issue

In my experience I do triple Wipe every time... Still no good...
Still Searching Google And Xda, and still finding more and more people suffering from this. ("suffering" is maybe too much, but we want smooooth.)
I realy wonder what could it be.
I will try Rom Cleaner though

Maybe the turbo swap mod can solve some lag ?

Thanks Mr Hofs but still no good.
Rom Cleaner Didn't help at all,and the turbo swap mod maybe did it faster, but it still not as smooth like i had on viperS ICS.
Its Fast but i can still feel and see the stuttering on the small white bar that represents which window you are..
My Friend with HTC sensation and viper rom is smoother that mine... I feel embarrassed...

are u using stock kernel or custom one? try to change governor...because some governor are way too choppy and yes...play with kernel settings like governor ^^

shaked1 said:
Hello
I Updated from ICS to JB few weeks ago.
In ICS stock rom and viper x (the only ICS Rom i used) the home screen scrolling was so smooth. So smooth.
Now I'm trying ARHD 21.0 and before Viper X 3.6.1 and both were choppy and laggy, only on the home screen/
I did some search and all I could find was people like me with this problem asking for solution but none..
So I'm trying here again, Is there any solution? OC or kernel or something ? Maybe I need to format my SD?
thanx in advance
Shaked1
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JB is supposed to be more smooth? Do you use lots of widgets in Home screen or does it freeze with the stock settings as well? Did you flash any other Mods?

Are you using a live wallpaper?? Some of them are very buggy.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Thanks a lot for your ideas.
Tried also Insertcoin... felt the same lak of smoothness...
So I flashed MX repacked kernel for insertcoin, used smartmax governor on SETCPU, It felt a bit better but still...
I dont use LWP, so I tried removing the widget that i use daily for the past few years since i had the HTC Desire - 4x2 weather clock, Agenda, Calender, Tasks and a photo frame of my child. Even the Insertcoin ROM for the desire could handle all these widgets with butter smoothness.
In the end of taking in and out widgets from the home screen i realized that the problem is either the full screen animation in the clock ,the clock itself or the agenda.
Now trying few hours with the 4x1 clock instead of the 4x2 and it feels way better... I'm not sure. Could it be? Or something is wrong with my device?
I will report back and thanks again.

I dont know...i use insertcoin with latest xm beta without repack and with pmc governor and max freq set to 1ghz all is fine...home screen and whole phone is buttery smooth ...I also installed turbo swap mod and odexed the Rom with the aroma option ...its so insanely fast now didn't see any laggs till now really great so try and play with governor...I use the 4x2 clock widget and like I said also with unlimited scrolling in home screen its insanely smooth and fast
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