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All videos lag while playing. Many supported formats also doesnt play nicely on One X. I had lots of trouble with HD avi files. Flv also doesnt work. moreover it gives error video cannot be played many times. One X sucks at video playback. Though MX player makes up for that but stock samsung devices support all videos directly why is this feauture missing on our one x
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your title suggest bad performance but its not the case, in fact it runs the heaviest 1080p videos without any effort!
there are bugs in the stock gallery and im with you its disappointing, its good we have MX player
NV confirmed the stock gallery playback runs on the saver core, so i guess its related?
lets hope this problem is fixed with the next update
I would also recommend MX Player, best ever bought the pro for support.
Try it.
Cheers
VPlayer plays everything like a charm and does not eat up your battery!
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The issue which i found was if I keep any flv file in the device all videos stop playing as gives the error msg "Sorry this video cannot be played" Moment i delete all flv files all videos play smoothly even HD ones.
I watch videos on my HOX EVERYDAY and so far the only video it didn´t play was an old codec that it ended up playing when I selected software decode.
neversayoceans said:
The issue which i found was if I keep any flv file in the device all videos stop playing as gives the error msg "Sorry this video cannot be played" Moment i delete all flv files all videos play smoothly even HD ones.
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this seems like a cool tip, can anyone confirm?
I was having problems even playing back videos I had recorded and SD videos I had downloaded. It turned out all my problems had to do with HTCMediaCacheService. Going into task manager and killing this process stopped that problem.
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The issue which i found was if I keep any flv file in the device all videos stop playing as gives the error msg "Sorry this video cannot be played" Moment i delete all flv files all videos play smoothly even HD ones.
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this is a cool tip guys
i went to all videos in the gallery n looked for flvs and deleted those
the problem seems gone
can anyone confirm?
if confirmed we can report it to HTC
I often play vidoes with MoBo Player 1080p files is running smooth as butter. With all the options available why would someone want to use stock player
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All videos lag while playing. Many supported formats also doesnt play nicely on One X. I had lots of trouble with HD avi files. Flv also doesnt work. moreover it gives error video cannot be played many times. One X sucks at video playback. Though MX player makes up for that but stock samsung devices support all videos directly why is this feauture missing on our one x
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I have the same issue in DICE player with some videos. Problem solved by switching to another player.
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I often play vidoes with MoBo Player 1080p files is running smooth as butter. With all the options available why would someone want to use stock player
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one big reason, the stock gallery runs on the battery saver core bro
hamdir said:
one big reason, the stock gallery runs on the battery saver core bro
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That's weird because battery saver core is not powerful to handle HD videos I think (600 or 800 mhz?).
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That's weird because battery saver core is not powerful to handle HD videos I think (600 or 800 mhz?).
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it does run it its confirmed by NV itself and to answer your question
thats what NEON instructions per core are for
That doesn't sound good.
I am in the process of just ordering my One X. So, what exactly does that mean that it uses "the battery saver core"? This is the HTC One X using the hardware decoder in a power saving mode or in software mode?
1. Can you turn off power saving mode to prevent this?
2. How long has this been going on? Does this exist in older HTC sense versions?
AC
Attackcenter said:
I am in the process of just ordering my One X. So, what exactly does that mean that it uses "the battery saver core"? This is the HTC One X using the hardware decoder in a power saving mode or in software mode?
1. Can you turn off power saving mode to prevent this?
2. How long has this been going on? Does this exist in older HTC sense versions?
AC
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read about Tegra3 has 4+1 cores, it's a fifth extra low power core used to saved battery during screen off, which results in over 2 days of standby times
and also used for video decoding, sine it also includes the neon set needed to decode HD videos
no need to prevent this it runs pretty well in the same performance as the full speed core, if the videos needs better performance or your running multiple ones i m sure it switches to quad on its own
the problem discussed in here seemed solved by remove flv videos from your gallery
this is specific to Tegra 3 One X, its a good bonus relax
hamdir,
1. The problem is solved by deleting videos from your gallery or off of your device? Because I definitely watch flv videos. Is it just the way the HTC One X reacts when flvs are in it's default gallery?
2. I don't know what to think when i hear users on here talk about screen abnormalities (glue problems etc), abnormalities in the plastic, creaking in the plastic, and cracks in the glass. When the Galaxy note came out there were several screen abnormalities with quality. Some fixed in software and some were there on the device if your were unlucky. Then I hear you talk about issues regarding the cores in games and in videos. Then regarding the heat issue. Having to under clock the device every time you play a game. Not to mention another user complained about slow glitches even in the HTC Sense weather animation. Have you heard any of these issue regarding the cores on any of the Asus Prime Tablets? Lastly, the wifi issue where there was bad soldering. Thats a heck of a lot of issues. Either some people on these message boards are "extreme" nitpickers or "device hypochondriacs", otherwise theres quite a lot of issues from the HTC that usually has "superior build quality"?
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I just canceled my order at Handtec. I don't know. They must have rushed the One X out. I usually like HTC Taiwanese products. This product however reeks of being a rushed Chinese product, both in build quality and software.
Hamdir: the HTC One X forums are lucky to have you here. Don't get me wrong I like to do tweaking. I just don't like to have to do tweaking just after you remove a product from the box to make it run normally "That's just too much".
Probably going to get the GS3 and put a 64gb card in it or wait for the GS3 64GB version. Then sell it in a few months and get the Galaxy Note 2.
AC
i have non of the issues you are talking about i hand panicked a flawless HOX, the key word is to hand pick it
build quality issues are just luck so far and getting better
heat is non issue for me, with software 1.29.401.11 it only occurs in heavy gaming, confirmed to be normal by HTC never crossing 50c for me and the same situation on iPad3
i never disable cores
battery last 2 days for me on average use
3 hours screen time of constant THD gaming
most beautiful gadget i have ever owned and quickly becoming my primary gaming device
every android device on earth have software issues, the 1.29.401.11 update solved 90% of them, HTC deserve praise for sorting them out in under a month
2 issues remains which seem to have skipped their rada
a video reading problem in the stock gallery, which is solved by removing flv or using another player like MX
and the gaming ondemand governor issue which to be honest i can't live without that governor since it saves my battery, but yes u need root to gain some control at this moment
so most probably they will fix it very soon when they introduce the performance options like we do have on the T Prime and old HTC devices
oh and its most rock solid stable software from HTC i ever owned, i dare anyone to make FC or restart lol
lastly really this why updates are there
and finally this is the device that the entire gadget world is lusting behind so really your loss
and what your mostly missing out is the amazing screen, amazing camera and amazing THD games
today i spent some time with my iphone dude and we spend like an hour in which he took it n played with it, he walked out dazzled
quickpic > stock gallery
mx player > stock player
poweramp > stock music
yup deleting flv works like charm thanx mates for wonderful tip
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I'm making a player for HDMI/MHL with subtitle support and hw acceleration. Now I don't know of any other player like this, apart from the stock but it has some bugs and ugly font rendering. There are players with sw acceleration but it means that you can't play complex videos and also you will see a video downscaled to 800x480 to fit the phone screen and then upscaled again to 1980x1080. That's because only on hw the firmware understands you're playing a video and output at original quality.
for ICS here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26504204#post26504204
Features:
Play every file via hw acceleration
Reads SRT subtitles
Reads ASS subtitles
Size, color and other little things of the subtitles are customizable for SRT
Partial support for styled ASS
Custom fonts for ASS
Less than 200kb
You can select between customized text rendering or samsung standard for SRT
Energy saving mode for screen
No permissions required, and no root.
Planned feature:
Even better ASS/SRT support
A file search dialog with metadata info
Overscan settings (on some TVs the image goes out of the screen)
Internal MKV sub support
Limitations I can't do anything:
I'm using samsung "hidden" things to draw on the Tv surface and they have limitations. The most important is that I can draw only on the lower part of the screen (see the white line in ASS mode). Also I can't improve the rendering because alpha isn't available and just a limited bit depth of colors. Plus other things...
Also HDMI is a bit bugged, sometimes it doesn't work right, black screen... It depends also on the tv, on my sharp is almost perfect but on my samsung keep going black screen. I think keep everything else closed, and stop phone data connection improves. Or just reboot...
Also on everything I draw on screen there are black pixels forming a little outline. It's almost surely because of the missing alpha. I tried to remove them in many ways but nothing worked.Know bugs:
Report them. Now it doesn't crash often ASS subs are overlapped now if many are displayed at the same time, I will work on it.
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The screenshot shows black but there was a video playing on device
It's simple, there are three icons: for opening a file, for the settings and the red/green one just shows if it's connected.
And three tabs: SUBS for selecting the type of the subs, PLAYER for seeing the video and working on it, and LOG for info and errors. The video controls appear and disappear when you touch the video.
The settings are simple enough to explain themselves otherwise ask me.
Under the HDMIPlayer title there will be "SRT" or "ASS" depending what's playing now. It search for subtitles with the same name as the video and with extension .srt or .ass.
MENU BUTTON
Press the menu button to enter in energy saving mode, the brightness is at minimum and the screen is almost completely black except for a moving little dark gray text, to prevent burning. Being an OLED, a black pixel is the same as a swithed off pixel.
And I tried it only on my SGSII I9100 with stock 2.3.6 KJ1.
No permissions and no root are required.
Probably it won't work on MIUI and cyanogen but I've not tried. It requires samsung internal "things".
If you try it please tell me your impressions and if it's useful for you, you can donate via paypal:
awsom i'm having that issue i can play 1080p with subs using stock player and the sammy MHL adapter the issue is subs stay untill the next line of subs comes around, which is annyoing the say the least. Also your feature to be able to turn of the phones screen(black screen) while playing would be super cool.. it's a waste of burn hours on my oled screen if it runs while displayed on tv
NOTE sammy devices often have poor subtitle support. atleast both my phones(SGS SGS2) and HDTV seem to have issues in various areas with subtitles
Hope you keep working on it, i'll be testing it as soon as i have time
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awsom i'm having that issue i can play 1080p with subs using stock player and the sammy MHL adapter the issue is subs stay untill the next line of subs comes around, which is annyoing the say the least. Also your feature to be able to turn of the phones screen(black screen) while playing would be super cool.. it's a waste of burn hours on my oled screen if it runs while displayed on tv
NOTE sammy devices often have poor subtitle support. atleast both my phones(SGS SGS2) and HDTV seem to have issues in various areas with subtitles
Hope you keep working on it, i'll be testing it as soon as i have time
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thank you, that bug was one of the reason I'm making this.
I have lost days trying to make libass work but now I'm making it myself, and it's almost complete. I plan to release soon a v2 to show it and then I will rewrite completely the interface, the current one was just for testing.
The black screen should be very simple to implement, not only for the burn of the oled but also for energy saving.
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Brilliant idea. Hope you keep developing further.
You're doing a great work!!
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Just to let you know, it FC's on the latest CM7, wasn't expecting it to work as per your OP, but thought I'd confirm it for you.
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Just to let you know, it FC's on the latest CM7, wasn't expecting it to work as per your OP, but thought I'd confirm it for you.
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Apart from my app MHL works?
I would be more interested if it works on custom kernels, because I'm planning to switch to something like siyah.
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Only for your information..just look at MX Videoplayer...if its usefull to you..
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Only for your information..just look at MX Videoplayer...if its usefull to you..
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Does mxvideoplayer use hw acceleration?
Dice player uses hw acceleration and its Fab.
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Does mxvideoplayer use hw acceleration?
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Dice player uses hw acceleration and its Fab.
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Do they output subtitles(embedded as well as external) over MHL/HDMI in 1080p? Because Mx doesnt work properly with subs over mhl atleast not for me. also can't turn of my phone's screen while outputting to my HDTV which is very anoying
I think this is a great project!
btw are you planning to make it open source?
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btw are you planning to make it open source?
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Probably not, only if the code becomes good. However if I stop working on it I will release the source or some kind of docs for everything I learned experimenting.
Update: I'm still working, a bit slower because (also) have to study sometimes and also the girlfriend.
I've got a problem with the rendering of the styled text on screen. There are black pixels around the edge of the text and I'm trying to remove them. I think is something related to the lack of alpha but I can't use it. With SRT I've used white text with black outline so I didn't noticed.
Will a feature that decides the output definition be possibly? 480p 576p 720p 1080p?
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Will a feature that decides the output definition be possibly? 480p 576p 720p 1080p?
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There's a function for that but I don't understand how it works. I tried now and it just flicked the screen or stopped working until I did something else. Maybe I will put the function on UI just for experimenting, maybe someone will understand.
I've released V2, see the opening post. I've added ASS, optional black screen on playback for energy saving, custom fonts,...
For the next one I will plan to rewrite the UI and most of the rest, this was just a concept to make sure it was possible, I don't think you can use it as a serious video player yet.
Thanks mate
Thank you very much! Excellent project!
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great work
this sounds great. its a shame samsung didnt think it through and enable a black screen for video playback in stock
Ok this app is officially my full hd movie player..
It displays subtitles correctly and the black screen options its what I've been looking for..
Put it on the market
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Ok this app is officially my full hd movie player..
It displays subtitles correctly and the black screen options its what I've been looking for..
Put it on the market
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Well, I thought about putting in the market or samsung apps but it's only for SGSII, so I'm not sure.
i've never really watched videos on my phones (mostly due to screen size etc) but i figure now that I have the Galaxy Nexus i could watch a few things on it..
What would be the best video format to convert things to? I dropped an avi of a tv program onto it and it worked but it lagged a bit..
I just converted something to an HD mp4 using Permute for Mac, it bumped the filesize up about 100mb but tested it and it runs smooth in QuickPic or PlayerPro but when trying to use the built in video player (to get the true full screen) it plays for a second, stutters, then says it can't be played.. :S
has anyone managed to get moboplayer working ? says i need an arm7 neon codec - found that on their site ... followed instructions but it still wont work
Video playback may be a bit iffy until the apps are updated; one of the Diceplayer mob posted saying that it now supports HD playback for .mkv. They didn't mention .avi but that generally needs less resources than .avi so you could try your avi in Diceplayer.
The general trend in open source video development is towards .mkv, I'm trying that first.
I'd be surprised if much works well right out of the gate. The true beta is when the masses begin tinkering
vplayer seems to play avi nicely
Ill have to try it out.. downloading now
I've got the same question. And I don't mean what other player can I download to play movies. I mean what format can I encode videos in to get them to play in the native player. I did find the article below. I have tried each of these formats with no luck. Anyone know why Android can't play a movie out of the box?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
And I also tired MoboPlayer with no luck.
pretty much if you use a baseline .mp4 format you will be fine
basically:
h.264 video
LC-AAC audio
no CABAC
and you should be fine up to 1080p these settings work on all my android devices
just set mpeg 4 level 4 and it should take care of it by itself
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pretty much if you use a baseline .mp4 format you will be fine
basically:
h.264 video
LC-AAC audio
no CABAC
and you should be fine up to 1080p these settings work on all my android devices
just set mpeg 4 level 4 and it should take care of it by itself
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Thanks noobdeagle,
I have tired those settings on several encoders (handbrake, Adobe Media Encoder, Magic DVD ripper) and still no success. What software are you using to encode? and have you tried the movies on the galaxy nexus? Because I have never had a problem on any other Android devices. Just this one.
cj
gave up re-encoding videos.
vplayer has played everything ive thrown at it so far. the built in movie player seems very limited.
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gave up re-encoding videos.
vplayer has played everything ive thrown at it so far. the built in movie player seems very limited.
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I appreciate the feedback but I have two problems with this particular advice.
1 - Have you seen the permissions for that player? Why would a video player need access to my "Phone calls - Read phone status and identity" and "Your personal information - Read sensitive log data"? Really?
2 - Why the hell can't this phone play videos out of the box. <rant>I have, as I suspect a lot of us here do, a fair few friends that I would call iPhone fanboys. One of the biggest gripes I always hear about android is that every time you run into a problem on Android is the best answer is to root your phone and install cyanogen, or go get xxxx app and that will take care of it, or you should have bought this phone instead. So I get this phone and think that finally Android is going to hit the main stream and I can't even play a movie. WTF!</rant>
Like I said, I appreciate the feedback but I am still looking for a way to play a video in the default video player.
cj
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Thanks noobdeagle,
I have tired those settings on several encoders (handbrake, Adobe Media Encoder, Magic DVD ripper) and still no success. What software are you using to encode? and have you tried the movies on the galaxy nexus? Because I have never had a problem on any other Android devices. Just this one.
cj
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no i have not tried on a galaxy nexus yet as that one week delay sim free means i wont be able to have mine in my hands untill at least next week :\,
i use mediacoder to encode videos, cant speak for the GN but ive used it for my xoom, nexus S, desire hd, htc legend and SGS 2 in the past (however SGS2 supported all codecs quite nicely anyway)
according to the android dev site the supported video list hasnt changed so this is quite strange.
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no i have not tried on a galaxy nexus yet as that one week delay sim free means i wont be able to have mine in my hands untill at least next week :\,
i use mediacoder to encode videos, cant speak for the GN but ive used it for my xoom, nexus S, desire hd, htc legend and SGS 2 in the past (however SGS2 supported all codecs quite nicely anyway)
according to the android dev site the supported video list hasnt changed so this is quite strange.
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Thanks for the info. I will seek out and try mediacoder.
FYI...I got my GN SIM free from Phones 4U. It was not easy though. I went in to a few stores before finding one that would sell it to me SIM free. And I think that I happened upon the manager at the store that did sell it to me. What makes it even better is that I am in the UK on business for a few months and so I can get the VAT back on my way out. Which makes it nearly 90 quid cheaper.
Thanks again,
cj
seems as if media coder works. Though that is one complicated program. You could get lost in those settings for days.
Thanks again.
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seems as if media coder works. Though that is one complicated program. You could get lost in those settings for days.
Thanks again.
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Format factory works and it's easy as to use.
Format factory does seem to work and is a little easier to use. Thanks. And just in time too because Mediacoder was having some trouble iwth a few of the vids I had.
cj
What do you think?
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So in summary:
1080p MKV:
laggy with no sound in stock player
laggy with synced sound in QQ player
MKV Scene released (torrents)
Has issues preventing playback
720p MKV:
Runs fine (stock player et al)
1080p MP4:
Runs fine (stock player et al)
I'd suggest trying MX Player instead. Probably no need for a video though.
ill just leave this here http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Still I'm disappointed with the performance, coming for a Galaxy S2 and all.
I had no problems at all playing a 400MB large 6 minutes long 1080p MP4 video. If there are problems with other formats, that has got to do with the application playing them or the codecs used. GN can play high definition video very well.
kristovaher said:
I had no problems at all playing a 400MB large 6 minutes long 1080p MP4 video. If there are problems with other formats, that has got to do with the application playing them or the codecs used. GN can play high definition video very well.
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The problem is some people encode their stuff as mkv or download hd rips (cheeky) off the internet.
The Galaxy Nexus feels more like an iPhone now I suppose as you cannot chuck any file at it and expect it to play, perhaps I'm used to the ease of things with the GS2.
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The problem is some people encode their stuff as mkv or download hd rips (cheeky) off the internet.
The Galaxy Nexus feels more like an iPhone now I suppose as you cannot chuck any file at it and expect it to play, perhaps I'm used to the ease of things with the GS2.
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But of course. You cannot chuck ANY file at it. Nothing works like that. You cannot chuck ANY file at Windows either.
Just because it has problems with high definition mkv files doesn't mean it has problems with mkv files in general. Just play lower resolution files and if it doesn't play, try out a different player that might.
Let's remember that high definition video playing is still promoted as feature on high end tablets. Tablets are a bit more powerful to begin with, phones have not caught up with your high end TV or laptop yet.
I don't feel this is an issue with the phone its application thing..
Most mkv's have an h.264 video stream which the phone can hardware decode its just the software doesn't know the container so I presume its software decoding and in which case im impressed it does as well as it does..
Vplayer might be a good app to try..
True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
the video doesn't help at all really
no bitrates were mentioned on the "laggy" video
no video or audio codecs were mentioned anywhere in the video
MKV can contain any number of different video and audio codecs
MP4 can contain (for example) h.263 and h.264 codecs
This is really annoying coming from a GS2. GS2 played any video file I threw at it. On the Nexus I have to use an app from the market and even then its not as fluid. I guess this is due to the older GPU. In general I am dissapointed with this phone, the S2 is much snappier.
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This is really annoying coming from a GS2. GS2 played any video file I threw at it. On the Nexus I have to use an app from the market and even then its not as fluid. I guess this is due to the older GPU. In general I am dissapointed with this phone, the S2 is much snappier.
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Sorry total rubbish, you are using a stock Android ICS phone, it does not come with touchwiz and other Samsung software, one of it being a video player. Please don't blame this on the phone hardware, it is nothing to do with it. If you expected everything to work out of the box I'm afraid maybe you should have got another phone! Stick on MX Player as an earlier poster suggested, also DICE player has now been updated, took all of 1 minute to get this information!
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True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
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Google can only put on file formats and codecs that they have licenses for and native Android 4.0 comes with open source software and proprietary Google owned software.
Yes, it is a 'pure Google' issue even if you don't care about it. And more open than others on the market has its advantages and disadvantages. Sorry that you are disappointed, but reality is that Android Market has a number of media players that can play a lot of file formats and codecs that Android 4.0 does not natively support. No one forces you to use native players.
Using diceplayer the Galaxy Nexus can play any content I throw at it. It can play samples from Bluray rips at full bitrate so it's as good as you could possibly need it to be (unless you have higher than bluray quality material).
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Sorry total rubbish, you are using a stock Android ICS phone, it does not come with touchwiz and other Samsung software, one of it being a video player. Please don't blame this on the phone hardware, it is nothing to do with it. If you expected everything to work out of the box I'm afraid maybe you should have got another phone! Stick on MX Player as an earlier poster suggested, also DICE player has now been updated, took all of 1 minute to get this information!
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You're right, I completely forgot about touchwiz, my bad. Tried dice player and had issues with my avi rips lagging, this was couple of days ago. I'll try the new dice player today.
I have been experiencing lag in the browser (pinch to zoom on heavy sites) which I didnt have in the GS2 (loved the bounce and elastic scrolling in that browser). I also sometimes get lag when loading the appdrawer (animation is laggy).
Don't know if I'm being paranoid but I think my device may be a bit messed up. When I took it out of the box, I was never greeted with the setup, just the home screen. Had to manually go to settings and add an account. Perhaps this was a returned model that I got given ?
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True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
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That's because samsung offers enhanced codec support on their galaxy S phones.. those phones running an AOSP build like CM 7 cannot play those formats out of the box. (last time I checked, they hadn't managed to port over samsung's codec support)
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You're right, I completely forgot about touchwiz, my bad. Tried dice player and had issues with my avi rips lagging, this was couple of days ago. I'll try the new dice player today.
I have been experiencing lag in the browser (pinch to zoom on heavy sites) which I didnt have in the GS2 (loved the bounce and elastic scrolling in that browser). I also sometimes get lag when loading the appdrawer (animation is laggy).
Don't know if I'm being paranoid but I think my device may be a bit messed up. When I took it out of the box, I was never greeted with the setup, just the home screen. Had to manually go to settings and add an account. Perhaps this was a returned model that I got given ?
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Where did you get your's from? Was the box sealed? Mine was from O2, no issues at all, minimal lag if any, I also had a GS2 and I find the GN a much nicer device to use. Maybe do a full factory wipe and start again. For the video MXPlayer has just been updated for ICS and incorporates hardware decoding, best of all it's free, maybe install this one first. Also check the quality of the video's you are putting on.
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Where did you get your's from? Was the box sealed? Mine was from O2, no issues at all, minimal lag if any, I also had a GS2 and I find the GN a much nicer device to use. Maybe do a full factory wipe and start again. For the video MXPlayer has just been updated for ICS and incorporates hardware decoding, best of all it's free, maybe install this one first. Also check the quality of the video's you are putting on.
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Contract on O2 but bought from phones4u. They didnt have any in their local shop so they sent this guy to get it from a shop nearby. When the guy gave it to me the box was not sealed (didnt have to cut / open anything to be able to get device out). I thought they do this to show you the phone before hand.
The phone itself had a plastic cover on it's front and back. Thinking back now I'didnt have to put the battery in either, just the SIM.
This was bought 2 days ago. I have done a reset, still do get the same lag, the camera is absolute ****e as well.
I was on text chat to O2 today, told them about the volume bug and all that, and they gave me a ref number. They also said that I could take to any phones4u shop and get it swapped, I will have to do that just to keep my self from going insane with paranoia.
I just want it to work. Call me a snob but I don't really care about sense or touchwiz, as long as it works, that's fine by me.
Hi. I got a SGH-I727 (AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket), which has the same 1.5ghz dual core Snapdragon processor as SGH-T989, and I'm curious if the SGH-T989 has the same issues with XviD encoded with the XviD 1.2.1 codec (aka bitstream XviD0050).
To verify that I wasn't going out of my mind, I fired up my old Galaxy S(I9000), and the same XviD videos played buttery smooth on it. But my SGH-I727 plays videos at about 2/3 of the fps. So for example, the XviD that should be 23.97 fps play at about 16fps. And 29.97 fps videos play at 20fps. Can someone try firing up a XviD on the SGH-T989?
On a side note, XviD encoded with DivX503b* play just fine (mainly because they are just DivX files in disguise). None of the other video codecs seem to have any problems. The problem is that 99% of my videos I want to watch are are encoded with XviD 1.2.1, so it is a real drag.
I've tried every player in the market. And even though software decoding delivers perfect fps, the resolution is pixelated. On Hardware Acceleration, they all seem to play back with the same level of choppiness. The only one showing any promise is the BS Player lite, but it is incredibly buggy, although the framerate is there.
Players that I've tried:
Dice Player
MX Player
BS Player lite
Mobo
VPlayer
Rock Player
None of these players play XviD files as smooth as my I9000 (Samsung Galaxy S). If the XviD plays fine on the SGH-T989, can someone use something like SystemApp Remover and make a backup of VideoPlayer.apk? I would seriously appreciate it. I've been trying to find a solution since the day I got my GSII Skyrocket. Thanks in advance!
i use MoboPlayer and it works fine on my AVI and MKV files
i'll need to find some DviX files to try and see if i can reproduce the problem you are describing
might simply be an encoding issue, DivX has always been a flaky encoder wrapper of choice to use
Samsung Demo HD Videos
hey you can try these
HD Samsung BoA - I Did It For Love.divx http://www.multiupload.com/SOLIRYEP5E
HD Samsung 2NE1 - Fire (Space Version).divx http://www.multiupload.com/L5ZGGPOH0U
HD Samsung Wonder Girls - Nobody.divx http://www.multiupload.com/MBAQMQS20A
they play smooth and nsync with audio
set your Mobo Player to play with Hardware Decoding
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Thanks for your inputs. The problem is that DivX is not choppy. But XviD is choppy. Specifically XviD 1.2.1 encoded XviDs, which is the majority of all video files I have and it is the format that I wish to download in the future. (Mainly TV Shows)
What I mean by choppy is, the movements are not smooth if you can tell the difference between 24fps vs 16fps. You can see the affect by doing a software decode, and noticing the smoothness of movement in comparison to the HW decode mode. As far as I can tell, every other Samsung Galaxy S and S2's can do HW decode, and have the motion as smooth as you see with the SW decode. Mobo on HW decode only produces the same choppiness that the standard Video player is capable of.
Can someone test this with XviD's? I would like some solid confirmation that it is either the Snapdragon processor (so SGH-T989 would have the same issue), or just my phone (SGH-i727 Skyrocket).
i do watch a lot of TV shows (Warehouse 13, Eureka, Terra Nova, Animes, etc, etc) from my phone as well, but they are all H.264 encoded
i'll need to dig through my old archives to find old Xvid encoded files.
unless you have some samples readily available
I also play alot of xvid and have noticed the weird lag that xvid gives too, on almost all the players out there, even with mobo on hardware (mobo still lets the phones software to use the hardware to decode, so mobo still isn't doing the heavy lifting so u still get xvid choppyness). So I bought Dice Player (true hardware decoding control) and it works 100 percent fine now and i love that player also, i love the scrubbing feature of the seek bar!
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I also play alot of xvid and have noticed the weird lag that xvid gives too, on almost all the players out there, even with mobo on hardware (mobo still lets the phones software to use the hardware to decode, so mobo still isn't doing the heavy lifting so u still get xvid choppyness). So I bought Dice Player (true hardware decoding control) and it works 100 percent fine now and i love that player also, i love the scrubbing feature of the seek bar!
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Hi pychobj2001, thank you for your reply. You're not the first one to point out Dice Player. Someone pointed this out on the SGH-I727 forum as well, but I tried the trial, then I ended up buying the full version for ~$5, and it still is choppy. Not getting the smooth 23.97 and 29.97fps I can get on much older Galaxy S devices... I've tested it with 5 XviD files of different shows, but all encoded with XviD0050 (1.2.1). Dice player seems to be maybe marginally better, if it is any better at all. If you really want to see what smooth fps looks like try BS Player lite. Unfortunately, it is really buggy, but you can see moments of smooth playback that even Dice Player can't seem to do. I'm looking for that level of smoothness without the messed up picture. SW decoding delivers the same amount of smoothness, but at the cost of having to see pixelation.
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i do watch a lot of TV shows (Warehouse 13, Eureka, Terra Nova, Animes, etc, etc) from my phone as well, but they are all H.264 encoded
i'll need to dig through my old archives to find old Xvid encoded files.
unless you have some samples readily available
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Yeah, H.264 is perfect on these devices. It would be nice if everyone on the Internet forgot about XviD and used H.264 and DivX for my sake. Unfortunately, I have 2 terabytes of XviD video that I would rather not re-encode.
The whole point of getting the Galaxy S2 was that I would never have to re-encode anything. I owned an iPhone for 2 years and what I ended up doing was encoding about 16GB of videos to H.264, but I never bothered to re-encode anything after that, so I was watching the same dang videos for 2 years. That is why I would never buy an iPhone again. Anyway, sorry for the rant.
so i found a recent XviD
Assassin's.Creed.Embers.2011. in .XviD.
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so i found a recent XviD
Assassin's.Creed.Embers.2011. in .XviD.
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I got a hold of the Assassin's Creed XviD file. Verified it was XviD0050 (1.2.1). This video plays at about 20fps, when you should be seeing 24fps. For example, at the 3:10 mark, during the zoom in, the zoom in should be totally smooth, not like someone is flipping through stop motion animation. If you want to see how smooth it should be, you can enable software decoding to get the smooth playback. The downside of software decoding is that the images look pixelated.
All the other Galaxy phones are able to produce the smooth playback at 24fps, but with the upscaled image quality hardware encoding provides. Just not on the on the Snapdragon processors.
If you have a friend with a Exynos processor, play the same video side by side with your Snapdragon device. But prepare to be disappointed knowing although your should be able to do it, it isn't doing it. And there are no current player in the android market that can play xvid files as smooth as an out of the box Exynos-based Galaxy S/S2.
I've finally found a solution. CineXPlayer. The features and interface is very basic and slight amateurish that music is acceptable during load up (luckily it disables), but all I care about is the video quality because choppy frame rates is noticeable during the entire duration. Better than DicePlayer when playing XviD files because DicePlayer still does choppy XviD playback on the Snapdragon devices. CineXPlayer is $2. Well worth the money. Haven't tested any other media formats because I can just use the Videos app for every other format because the phone does it well without the need for a 3rd party app. It will be nice if I can open streams with CineXPlayer using a DLNA device, but that is not top priority. It will be a nice addon to CineXPlayer whenever they get around to it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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I've finally found a solution. CineXPlayer. The features and interface is very basic and slight amateurish that music is acceptable during load up (luckily it disables), but all I care about is the video quality because choppy frame rates is noticeable during the entire duration. Better than DicePlayer when playing XviD files because DicePlayer still does choppy XviD playback on the Snapdragon devices. CineXPlayer is $2. Well worth the money. Haven't tested any other media formats because I can just use the Videos app for every other format because the phone does it well without the need for a 3rd party app. It will be nice if I can open streams with CineXPlayer using a DLNA device, but that is not top priority. It will be a nice addon to CineXPlayer whenever they get around to it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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Agreed and downloaded.
Lucidmike said:
I've finally found a solution. CineXPlayer. The features and interface is very basic and slight amateurish that music is acceptable during load up (luckily it disables), but all I care about is the video quality because choppy frame rates is noticeable during the entire duration. Better than DicePlayer when playing XviD files because DicePlayer still does choppy XviD playback on the Snapdragon devices. CineXPlayer is $2. Well worth the money. Haven't tested any other media formats because I can just use the Videos app for every other format because the phone does it well without the need for a 3rd party app. It will be nice if I can open streams with CineXPlayer using a DLNA device, but that is not top priority. It will be a nice addon to CineXPlayer whenever they get around to it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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Agreed and downloaded.
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Try playing a DD5.1 file, doesnt work. But the video is good...
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Try playing a DD5.1 file, doesnt work. But the video is good...
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What kind of videos use that file type? Never heard it before so don't think it'll be a problem for me.
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What kind of videos use that file type? Never heard it before so don't think it'll be a problem for me.
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Its not the video part, an xvid with dolby digital 5.1 audio encoded. In case you were going to watch on a big screen through hdmi the player doesnt support 5.1 audio.
Guys, I've stumbled onto a strange workaround. You don't need CineXPlayer but you may need to be rooted.
Basically, there is a bug in the skyrocket OS. When a hardware video overlay is enabled, the video becomes choppy. CineXPlayer does not use the hardware overlay the same way, that is why the video is not choppy. A workaround was that I downloaded gamecih2 (not gamecih available from Android Market). Gamecih2 is availablehere http://www.cih.com.tw/download.
Why have gamecih2 toolbar running in the foreground? I have no idea but it solves the xvid choppiness issue! Strange yes, but effective. You will notice the diff immediately. Try killing the toolbar and the choppiness returns. Just have it running before you start the vid. You can even make the gamecih2 toolbar transparent.
Now...if you a real stickler like myself about video quality you will notice the stock hardware decoding, while it has improved to near perfection, is still not perfect. It drops a frame or two every now and then. There is a solution. You need to use the gamecih2 toolbar with DicePlayer. Try the DicePlayer Trial with the gamecih2 toolbar. This combo will make your Skyrocket play your XviD as good as the original Galaxy S. I'm not sure if it does DD5.1 audio, but definitely try it out.
Why not just use CineXPlayer? You can, but I've realized although the player plays as smooth as using the gamecih2 floating toolbar work-around with DicePlayer, the features on the CineXPlayer is lacking (UI, streaming support, DD5.1 support), and the quality of the images is off by just a hair on the CineXPlayer.
Solution 1:
CineXPlayer* $2
*limitations: no streaming support, no DD5.1, outdated UI
Solution 2:
gamecih2* (run this app, make it transparent before you start your video in any player)
DicePlayer (optional $5.38, not absolutely necessary unless you are looking for absolute perfect playback.)
*this toolbar requires your device to be rooted.
regarding the Xvid choppiness
i actually found the same bug in my home theatre PC quad core with 4 GB RAM when running XMBC
however if i use another Video Player, then the Xvid bug goes away.
seems like anything encoded in Xvid is just bad over all, and you need good paid software to compensate for its problems
playing any other media files format / encoders, have no problem even when they are 720p or 1080p files
why Xvid is so crap?
I had this problem since i bought One X almost a year ago. Youtube stutters a lot, almost like cpu cant catch up. Video plays fluidly for one second, then stutters/drops frames for a moment. Then another half second or one second of normal playback, than few random dropped frames again. Audio doesnt stutter or block at all. Doesn't matter if i change quality on youtube.
It's not low bandwidth, all videos are buffered far enough ahead. This only happens in youtube app and in in-browser player. If I play or stream some video in one x's default player, no stuttering. MX player also doesn't stutter at all even with 1080p mkv's.
While I play video in youtube app, microcpu shows one core constantley jumping between 10% and 100% with seccond core activating every couple of seconds. Could it be because cpu is switching frequencies/cores while playing? Or switching from that 5th tegra core to normal cores?
Anyway the effect is most obvious in videos with camera panning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd-_kFJn_LM.
When i play that video on huawei mediapad 7 lite (really low end tablet) or ip4, video is absolutely smooth. No stuttering at all.
Any ideas?
Official 4.2.2 version.
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Try to get some custom kernel for your phone. And see what governor, IO shcaduler works best with it.
That video looks and plays perfectly on my stock one x 4.1 no stuttering at all, and I have no issues with any other youtube video's all is good for me.
from my ⊙N€ X