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Youtube performance

is it me, or do you guys experience the same thing? when playing youtube films with the youtube app included in the diamond, it never plays 100% smooth.. especially in the beginning of the film it stutters a lot, sometimes the playback stops for a full second. After like 15 a 20 seconds it's better, but i keep on seeing stuttering. I owned a iphone (I know and youtube there always plays without any stuttering. For the rest iphone is piece of crap, but still it's one thing that bothers me... i have it in every rom, official ones, dutty's, swift's...) when i use coreplayer to play youtube, it's a lot better, but still especially in highest quality it stutters sometimes.. When i play a avi file it plays perfectly, not a single stuttering.... (also with coreplayer)

Never saw this problem, 95% of all clips running smooth and without any stuttering.

Wrong forum.
I've played about 30 youtube clips and all have played fine.
When you say stutter do you mean buffering or stuttering?

glenner05 said:
is it me, or do you guys experience the same thing? when playing youtube films with the youtube app included in the diamond, it never plays 100% smooth.. especially in the beginning of the film it stutters a lot, sometimes the playback stops for a full second. After like 15 a 20 seconds it's better, but i keep on seeing stuttering. I owned a iphone (I know and youtube there always plays without any stuttering. For the rest iphone is piece of crap, but still it's one thing that bothers me... i have it in every rom, official ones, dutty's, swift's...) when i use coreplayer to play youtube, it's a lot better, but still especially in highest quality it stutters sometimes.. When i play a avi file it plays perfectly, not a single stuttering.... (also with coreplayer)
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At the begining, the phone not only playing the video but also downloading it from the internet. Especially when your download speed is fast, the cpu could not afford the heavy load from both tasks. So it could not have smooth playback. When the download is complete, the playback will be smooth like silk.

An interesting thing is that if your download speed is not that fast, the diamond can have smooth playback while downloading at the same time. I have to say it is your perfect network connection caused this problem.

You can choose High Quality or fast download in settings.

raymentchen said:
At the begining, the phone not only playing the video but also downloading it from the internet. Especially when your download speed is fast, the cpu could not afford the heavy load from both tasks. So it could not have smooth playback. When the download is complete, the playback will be smooth like silk.
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Same here, happens on all ROMS I have used, once the video is fully downloaded playback is perfect.

sorry i posted in the wrong forum, should be diamond section.. but seems you guys are right.. especially when i'm on wifi i have the stuttering. i'll check what happens when download completes and i'll try on 3G or edge. I know i can choose between high quality or fast download.. but i like the high quality on this brilliant vga screen so I set it to high quality.
Thanks alot, now i know where the problem comes from, still its a pity that such powerfull device cannot handle this properly...

Videoplayer

Hello
i am searching for a videoplayer that plays HD movies and AVI, xvid etc..i tried rockplayer but the video turned out laggy and out of sync. Anyone have an idea of an good player that plays this kind of codec?
The.Simpsons.S22E11.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION
without lagg or out of sync problems
thanks

i use rockplayer...my phone is rooted and OC'd and i have no lag or sync issues.

mysterymeat said:
i use rockplayer...my phone is rooted and OC'd and i have no lag or sync issues.
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that is very weird mate can u plz link the version of rockplayer u are using? i am running 2.2.1 froyo stock

Wow you're able to play 720p movies? I get lag with each video player out there. Rockerplayer, vplayer, arc.. but dvd quality runs perfect.
CM7 nightly 20 oc'd to 1.4ghz.
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no like i said i cannot run 720p movies so there is no solution for this ?

The.Simpsons.S22E11.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION
^Did you get that from the pirate bay? Shame on you.
Try an overclock it should help some. I stream 720p flash movies and they actually perform quite well at 1.516Mhz performance, but it does overheat after a while. If you are not rooted and OC is not an option, You might have to convert the file to 480X800 to get it to play smooth. Be warned though that this can take from 20 minutes to 6 hours depending on the speed of your computer, and results in image quality loss.
If you ever get out of sync issues, just jump back a few seconds and it will resync itself. For flash movies I usually resync it every 15 minutes or so.

mejorguille said:
The.Simpsons.S22E11.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION
^Did you get that from the pirate bay? Shame on you.
Try an overclock it should help some. I stream 720p flash movies and they actually perform quite well at 1.516Mhz performance, but it does overheat after a while. If you are not rooted and OC is not an option, You might have to convert the file to 480X800 to get it to play smooth. Be warned though that this can take from 20 minutes to 6 hours depending on the speed of your computer, and results in image quality loss.
If you ever get out of sync issues, just jump back a few seconds and it will resync itself. For flash movies I usually resync it every 15 minutes or so.
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/careface?
anyway its to bad it cannot play 720p properly and i have no plans on rooting and oc

You can try Act 1, I have had it play a few formats the others wouldnt...I like Rockplayer, Vplayer not so much. Meridian is another good video player.

Try arcMedia
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ya arc media is pretty good

If anyone is still looking for more video player choices, Vital Player seems pretty good. Either pretty new, or I just haven't found it before. Good interface, seems compatible with lots of my videos, and automatically selects software or hardware decoding based on the video (without having to select or toggle like Rock Player). I've seen some complaints in the Market reviews about the free version showing ads during video playback. But I haven't seen this. I have AdFree running, so it seems to be doing its job. Also, Vital Player is not yet compatible with Gingerbread, so it doesn't work on CM7.
Since I've switched to CM7, its Rock Player for me. It plays almost everything I've thrown at it, without lag. vPlayer lagged like crazy for me on some videos. ArcMedia has lots of things I didn't like about the interface, and lagged on some WMV files.

I've been using the stock video player since day one when I got my G2. I play all my videos at 720P after converting to .mp4 using handbrake. No lag issues at all.

[Poll] is YouTube at 480p smooth for you?

Since I couldn't find any reviews specifying this, I have created a poll. This is the closest thing I found - "YouTube videos played quite smoothly (360p-480p)"
Are you able to stream YouTube at 480p smoothly? (zero stuttering/dropped frames)
This is in regards to my previous thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180717

you can watch 720p fine with jetvd from the market. I do it all the time..uses so much data though O.O

Thanks for the tip, jetVD works nicely - smooth 720p.
I CBA to send the phone for repair for 4 weeks just to potentially fix a small issue.
Edit: the KeepVid app looks exactly the same as jetVD

I only watch via WiFi, is faster and saves me €10 a month.
But streaming HD still seems to lag (I use Opera Mini w/ lastest Flash Player), I think the phone (I have a Neo) can't handle streaming HD well enough...

It can handle 720p streaming just fine, only not through Flash. Video playing through Flash still isn't optimal, but that is just flash. When going through the Yt desktop site not even 480p works completely smooth here.
With JetVD you can watch 720p streaming just fine, and since JetVD uses the Gallery player it even uses the Bravia engine, AND the output over HDMI would be real 720p and not just 854x480 upscaled!

"youtube like" video player for offline viewing

hi,
well... i'm the strange one, but while everyone is complaining about not able to get real full screen in some cases when you play a video, i'm on the other side, i'm looking for a video player where i could watch videos like how youtube looks like in tablet mode, when you can see other thumbnails next to your video.
before call me crazy, let me explain :cyclops: i love my nexus, i've bought it mainly for its screen, and it is great - but sadly... only when you have hd feed, (oh i love it in hd, and real full screen is great)
unfortunately i do have a lot of music video from the web, and some are really low res. i did change the audio tracks from lossless sources, but couldn't find the videos in better quality, so when i playback my favorite mv's, most of them look awful on the big screen over larged 200% or sometimes 300% :crying: i can of course playback in real size on full screen so the quality is not too bad, but it looks really weird - the big black screen with a tiny video at the center. on the other hand when i watch them on youtube (without playing in full screen) they look ok more or less, the other thumbnails next to the now playing one fill up the empty space.
i'm not sure if such a player exist, but again, i often think something is impossible, then later i find it.
does anyone know something?

Okay this might not be what exactly you are looking for but I think what you really want is a video player where you can resize the playing window so that if the video you are watching happens to be low quality, you can resize it to a smaller frame. In that case try the app Super Video by GPC on the market. It's basically a floating window video player and when you are playing a video, you can resize the window to any size you want. Hope that's useful.
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thanks for the tip, it is not bad at all, it would be close enough.
sadly it won't play smoothly. i did install the sw decoder pack or whatever was the name and now plays my files, but the audio is a bit async, and the video freezes or get blocks all over the screen, look like when a slow pc tries to play full hd files... also it takes 10 mins to load 23 thumbnails, then when i close the app, and reopen it starts again, navigating amongst the videos also freezes the app, have no idea what it is. i have mx player, it plays 720p movies smoothly, but these low quality mv's should not be a problem for any player
any idea?

Hmm I haven't really tested this app a lot so I'm afraid I can't help you. I used it to play some videos which I took with the phone's camera and it played fine. If I have to guess then it probably has problems with certain codices and you might be able to fix the problem by reencoding the videos with a different format, but that might be more trouble than it's worth.
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i reinstalled it with the codecs as well, and now plays well
but something is still not perfect, because when i played one video, and wanted to start the next one, it froze - totally, i had to remove the battery...
anyway, i keep trying, but now i know at least that it's possible, just seen on youtube that galaxy s3 have this feature by default
thanks again

[Q] Hi10p playback on Note 3 with MXplayer/other video player apps?

Those who have a Note 3: can anyone report back on how MKV files with 10-bit profile/hi10p play back using MXplayer (Using HW+ or whatever codec works best) or whatever video app you prefer to use?
Sample files in both 720p and 1080p resolution are here: koi-sama.net/files/hi10/

This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.

wiimonkey9 said:
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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Samsung should give you some commission because you just sold me on the phone! <3
Thanks and thanks!

Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
TYVM

Here's the codec since I'm unable to edit my previous post

RMXO said:
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
TYVM
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It worked both without and with the codec. Subtitles worked better than the stock player, as it showed multiple lines at once during openings with karaoke lyrics, though both lines were on top of each other, instead of one being on the bottom and one being on the top like mxplayer had it. There are possibly settings to play with subtitles and such, but either way it seems that the phone is playing videos like a boss.
For testing I was using these videos: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=236223
I'm about to test http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=446022
and one of the most subtitle intensive videos I know, the first episode of this http://colormesubbed.com/the-world-god-only-knows-ii-bd-vol-1
I'll update this post when I am done testing.
Update:
Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.

wiimonkey9 said:
Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
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Thanks for the report, hi10 compatibility is a major point for me too!
So, all videos play fine, even 1080p hi10 subbed, except some pretty heavy ones, like Garden of Words..
Maybe this was due to the bigger size (a movie and not episodes) and the sourround sound?

Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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wiimonkey9 said:
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.

GameBoiye said:
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
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Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?

dragonstalker said:
Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
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This isn't specifically only related to Anime or MKV files, it's more specifically related to the h.264 standard. You can read a brief description of it here: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Hi10P and a more indepth description here: http://x264.nl/x264/10bit_01-ateme_pierre_larbier_422_10-bit.pdf
While it can be used for any videos, it's primarily used for Anime as it can provide better video at the same bittrate. It fixes a lot of problems that come with animation being encoded such as banding. It can be used for regular content but the benefit for non-animation medium is not enough to justify the increase in processing power and lack of hardware support to get people to switch.