i'm not here to disappoint you , but want to reduce your expectations , this thread is not about my cm9 or anythin of mine , its simply common
Actually its impossible to make hw acceleration work in cm7 and cm9 for galaxy y,
that simply means that even if developed it wont be smooth and will be unstable with sw acceleration , simply unusable
Maclaw too pointed out the same that bcm gpu in galaxy y cant support hw acceleration (this applies for cm7 and cm9 , dont complain that ur phone has hw acceleration , yes ur phone does have hw acceleration with stock and aosp rom)
but u still can have hope with sw acceleration , as there is a way to make the rom smooth with sw acceleration but thats too demanding and nearly impossible .
on vivekalady's cm7, he is trying to make hw acceleration work , sw acceleration works already but low graphics performance
so i'm conveying to you people that , dont expect much in terms of cm7 and cm9 for sgy , also miui , but a gud news is that hw acceleration can work with aosp , so miui can be possible .
so u people need to settle with stock based rom's , but with this kind of attitude towards the dev who theme roms and make custom based roms(i'm not making one) , you are actually making the devs pull out of this forum.
this thread was made to reduce expectations and make people clear of the present situations .
edit: hw acceleration has slight chances to work with cm7 , but wont giv full gpu , around 60% is possible
i know very well that there will be trolls, flames for this thread too , but i dont care , i'm none to advice you
Bad news for all sgy users
I knew it
Thanks buddy
Be happy
I'm happy with the custom ROM I've got already. I'd like to have CM9 for my Y, but HCFroyd247's ChobitsDigitalisV2.0 is good enough for me
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I'm happy with the custom ROM I've got already. I'd like to have CM9 for my Y, but HCFroyd247's ChobitsDigitalisV2.0 is good enough for me
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Same feeling Its the best way to refrain yourself from cm7/9
What I don't get is why is Cyanogenmod 7 smooth on the Galaxy mini then ? That device also hasn't HW Acceraltion ...
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What I don't get is why is Cyanogenmod 7 smooth on the Galaxy mini then ? That device also hasn't HW Acceraltion ...
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u mean doesnt have hw acceleration ? it has adreno 200 in it , and it gives full gpu acceleration even for ics
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u mean doesnt have hw acceleration ? it has adreno 200 in it , and it gives full gpu acceleration even for ics
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Well the Y also has a gpu in it isn't 'Broadcom BCM2763' VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB (And if we really can't get CM 7 or 9 on this device I'll throw it out the window )
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What I don't get is why is Cyanogenmod 7 smooth on the Galaxy mini then ? That device also hasn't HW Acceraltion ...
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if someone say sgy don't have hw acceleration then :
a. he/she don't know about hw acceleration, or
b. it's just excuse to make people stop ask him/her to port cynogenmod to sgy
if this device don't have hw acceleration you will get low fps in antutu 2d/3d benchmark. my home-brew animation app also easily reach 60fps. it's not possible if this device don't have graphic hw acceleration.
as far as I know our problem is not related the hw acceleration stuff. we already have a booted cm7. that's a prove that our device has possibility to has cm7. our main problem at this moment is that we don't have a complete source to build cm7 since the one comes from samsung is incomplete. don't ask me when samsung will release the complete source to public. they're getting more unfriendly to anyone who want to mod their product day by day. as you can see, they doesn't even let us replace their boot animation in their newest firmware for our device.
actually the stock rom can have hw acceleration also aosp , but cm7 and cm9 cant have , i'm not making any excuses , and i didnt say it by myself maclaw told this
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as far as I know our problem is not related the hw acceleration stuff. we already have a booted cm7. that's a prove that our device has possibility to has cm7. our main problem at this moment is that we don't have a complete source to build cm7 since the one comes from samsung is incomplete. don't ask me when samsung will release the complete source to public. they're getting more unfriendly to anyone who want to mod their product day by day. as you can see, they doesn't even let us replace their boot animation in their newest firmware for our device.
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one thing , actually vivek has been tryin to make hw acceleration work for the past 3 to 4 builds , cm7 only boots up with sw acceleration with 0 o android , but not with hw acceleration
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if someone say sgy don't have hw acceleration then :
a. he/she don't know about hw acceleration, or
b. it's just excuse to make people stop ask him/her to port cynogenmod to sgy
if this device don't have hw acceleration you will get low fps in antutu 2d/3d benchmark. my home-brew animation app also easily reach 60fps. it's not possible if this device don't have graphic hw acceleration.
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i wasnt so clear in my thread , stock and aosp is definitely havin hw acceleration , but when it comes to cm7 and cm9 this is not the case(due to numerous reasons)
i'm not here to offend u , or break ur hopes , if u people get gud cm7 and cm9 i'm happy with that , and this thread is made from my own experience in trying to make cm9 for sgy and also from the wrds of maclaw(developer-cm9 for mini,fit,ace,gio) and rom maru(developer -cm9 lg pe350)
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Well the Y also has a gpu in it isn't 'Broadcom BCM2763' VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB (And if we really can't get CM 7 or 9 on this device I'll throw it out the window )
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every phone has a gpu , but whats it capable of matters
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So, the Mini has a better chip than the Y dafuq Well I wish I bought the mini I would buy that device but than I thought the Y has a better cpu and is newer but yeah ... As I see if it's unable to port CM than it makes me :'(
I'm not referring to viveks build. what I mean is the one ported from ace. the phone is succesfully booted up but we don't have gsm, wifi, and bluetooth functionality since we don't have approriate driver for those stuffs.
actually the stock rom can have hw acceleration also aosp , but cm7 and cm9 cant have --- i didnt say it by myself maclaw told this
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this one prove that hw acceleration stuff is definetely not a problem. if stock rom and aosp could have hw acceleration then cm7 is surely could have it too. maclaw might think that SGY doesn't support hw acceleration since he couldn't find the driver needed to enable hw acceleration in samsung's source code. well...it simply because samsung nor broadcomm doesn't release the code to public. we can try to make a global petition stuff for samsung to release all their newest source code to public but I doubt if they'll give them easily to us.
TRANSLATING : Galaxy Y Have GPU ( 99,9 % of smarths have it) and Support Hw Acceleration But Cant make it Work (At Moment) with CM7/CM9 Roms.
UNDERSTAND
why would we listen to you?
1. You failed to established a good reputation here.
2. because you have not finished a project.
basically, you haven't proved your worth here in our forum. Kept on skipping from one project to another without any known progress.
The fact here is that no one is relying on you to make this project a reality. If i were to expect this statement, i would be satisfied if it came from vivek. But from you?
HELL NO!!
Dont pretend like you care. Just to cover up what you can't achieve.
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why would we listen to you?
1. You failed to established a good reputation here.
2. because you have not finished a project.
basically, you haven't proved your worth here in our forum. Kept on skipping from one project to another without any known progress.
The fact here is that no one is relying on you to make this project a reality. If i were to expect this statement, i would be satisfied if it came from vivek. But from you?
HELL NO!!
Dont pretend like you care. Just to cover up what you can't achieve.
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soraci said:
why would we listen to you?
1. You failed to established a good reputation here.
2. because you have not finished a project.
basically, you haven't proved your worth here in our forum. Kept on skipping from one project to another without any known progress.
The fact here is that no one is relying on you to make this project a reality. If i were to expect this statement, i would be satisfied if it came from vivek. But from you?
HELL NO!!
Dont pretend like you care. Just to cover up what you can't achieve.
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Dude don't be so rude he just wanted to help it isn't his fault the samsung galaxy y source code is incomplete :banghead:
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Can someone let me know the ICS ROM for HTC Desire which has Qualcom Hardware decoder enabled.
All CM and MIUI ROMs seems to use software decoder with hardware acceleration hack.
Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660
Not sure how, but they say they have full HWA now.
I tried it. But it still uses software decoder.
In which case, nothing will be using it. Dont forget we havent got driver source for GPU.
But you guys are making petitions to Qualcomm for getting those, isn't it?
Maybe i should write a letter of supporting too,
The many, the mere eh! ;D
I actually e-mailed them the other day. They simply didn't respond.
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title says it all
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Id be interested in cm10 as long as its possible to.port to cdma
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Im looking for any super stable AOSP Rom, CM10 Would be great, If it had no bugs and if it was smooth and if it had full working touchpads.
Super stable AOSP CM10 Would be Awesome, with no bugs was smooth and had full working touchpads
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Im looking for any super stable AOSP Rom, CM10 Would be great, If it had no bugs and if it was smooth and if it had full working touchpads.
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Lotta if. I'd be interested in cm10 too. But with the same "if" like cyberscopes.
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Yep, but would most likely not be possible
Yeah, but i think this's what this thread is for. To know & to ask us what we want. If not, then just close this thread.
Regards,
Sdojoin
Cm 10 forsure
Slimed, debloated, working touchpads, video, camera and panorama lol
Cdma/gsm.
Is that to much to ask lol
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Yeah, but i think this's what this thread is for. To know & to ask us what we want. If not, then just close this thread.
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This thread should actually be put into general... not into Q&A...
I've recently started building/using CM10 following these instructions: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Build_for_zeus
(only instead of ics on the repo init line, I used jellybean)
I'm assuming that should be roughly equivalent to what the FXP team produces (considering they're the ones that submit the source to CM). It seems to work fine for me.
I don't honestly use my camera very much, but what is wrong with it? I seem to be able to take pictures and they seem to be the right resolution (though I haven't done any quality comparisons) I haven't actually tried video or panorama.
I'm mainly interested in trying to add some tweaks, some of which may be Xperia Play-specific, and CM seemed like the best developer/community open source ROM to work with (though if someone else has other suggestions let me know)
The touchpads actually work, though not in the way that games expect them to is the problem - so it's really more a matter of game compatibility than functionality (and some of the others have made great strides in this area, but still not compatible with all games). I'd honestly like to try to get the Xperia Play's gamepad to be exposed to applications the same way a Bluetooth HID controller would be - I honestly think that needs to be the future - games shouldn't be written for Xperia Play or MOGA or whatever special controllers people come up with, just write it for HID controllers.
I've also thought about custom unlock methods, one of which could be entering codes on your gamepad to unlock.
A more ambitious project unless I can actually get the Android Transporter's guys' attention would be hardware accelerated Wifi screen-mirroring, which is what the Android Transporter guys did to stream from phone to phone or phone to tablet or phone to raspberry pi (they've open-sourced their raspberry pi receiver and as I understand it have plans to open source the android platform mods to be able to screencast). Basically the idea is to pull composited images from the surfaceflinger and put them through the hardware encoder (similar to what the camera does for encoding video), and stream them over Wifi according to RFC standards.
What else is wrong with CM10 that ya'll would like to see fixed? Any new feature ideas?
I'm not promising to implement anything though, I haven't been able to devote much time to android development, but thought I'd go ahead and try to share and inspire ideas and hopefully I'll be able to find more time to contribute soon.
~Troop
Not really in any of those options if gaming is not as fast as in gingerbread.
Yes, I want something like yours ExtremeRom but with better performace. But I know that ICS is crap for gaming so it's just a dream
We obviously know Gingerbread is Rock stable then ICS. I am currently planning on going back to Gingerbread WITHOUT leaving behind any ICS feature like the Multitasking feature or the Apollo Music app. Is there any possible ways to do it?
First of all , you should go to recovery mode (clockworkmod) and go to mounts and format ( /cache /data /system) and reboot the phone ,
when it shuts down press power+vol down to get to the download mode
and then you do a regular software via Odin .. here is the link of how to software your Galaxy Wonder!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467128
for the firmware go to sammobile.com and choose the galaxy w (you should sign there ... )
Cheers..
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First of all , you should go to recovery mode (clockworkmod) and go to mounts and format ( /cache /data /system) and reboot the phone ,
when it shuts down press power+vol down to get to the download mode
and then you do a regular software via Odin .. here is the link of how to software your Galaxy Wonder!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467128
for the firmware go to sammobile.com and choose the galaxy w (you should sign there ... )
Cheers..
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I think you misinterpreted his question wrongly. I think he was asking if he could bring over the multitasking features over to GB. Not removed it clean
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oh , silly me , in that case i don't really know but you can use ram manager and and apps ,
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oh , silly me , in that case i don't really know but you can use ram manager and and apps ,
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haha..you are funny man
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TiTAN-O-One said:
We obviously know Gingerbread is Rock stable then ICS. I am currently planning on going back to Gingerbread WITHOUT leaving behind any ICS feature like the Multitasking feature or the Apollo Music app. Is there any possible ways to do it?
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Sorry to tell but I didn´t Honestly Gingerbread was really unstable for me. Rebootet almost everytime I took a look at my SGW.
No, not really that bad but sponatnious reboots occured sometimes whereas CM9 ran rock solid even in Alpha stage. This for months without turning the device off and it´s performance didn´t decrase like GB when it was already running for 2 or 3 days.
Another disadvantage in using GB is not being able to Greenify your Apps and and the worse memory management and thus all your apps like facebook running all the time in the background till you kill them manually.
But to answer your question, no you can´t exept you are a really skilled Dev who will rewrite all the code. But in this case you also could develop a completely new ROM or simply port Ubuntu Touch, Apples IOS or the Firefox OS within 5 minutes on this device.
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Sorry to tell but I didn´t Honestly Gingerbread was really unstable for me. Rebootet almost everytime I took a look at my SGW.
No, not really that bad but sponatnious reboots occured sometimes whereas CM9 ran rock solid even in Alpha stage. This for months without turning the device off and it´s performance didn´t decrase like GB when it was already running for 2 or 3 days.
Another disadvantage in using GB is not being able to Greenify your Apps and and the worse memory management and thus all your apps like facebook running all the time in the background till you kill them manually.
But to answer your question, no you can´t exept you are a really skilled Dev who will rewrite all the code. But in this case you also could develop a completely new ROM or simply port Ubuntu Touch, Apples IOS or the Firefox OS within 5 minutes on this device.
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ohkayy. Cos i remembered somebody told me GB here is Rock Solid compared to JB or even ICS
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ohkayy. Cos i remembered somebody told me GB here is Rock Solid compared to JB or even ICS
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stock gb is rock solid.
99% bug free (it means all its functions on the phone r working),
1% human bug (screw up the phone n blame it).
new jb/ics kernel/software r not 100% backwards compatible due to old hw becoz lag of newly design functions.
most universe scripts in xda r generally for other hp.
lucky scripts did no harm, becoz most scripts written on non existence parameters on sgw.
if they do hits on some parameters, it likely will brick ur hp or do nothing becoz already at its optimal.
so far, i've scan many scripts n found tat they r completely no use except for two (zip_init and adrenoboost v0.3) r useful.
stock gb rom r optimized, fine tune vm if u know wat to do. :good:
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stock gb is rock solid.
99% bug free (it means all its functions on the phone r working), 1% human bug compare to ics or jb.
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Ok, if the stock GB is so fantastic can you explain why Samsung released several updated to fix some "issues"?
Doesn´t make really sense if it´s 99% bugfree.
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new kernel/software r not downwards compatible due to old hw becoz lag of newly design functions.
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Sorry but that´s another nonsense. Never kernels, software or firmware not compatible with older hardware just because the older hardware might be to slow and therefore lagging?
Sorry to tell but this is bull$hit and contradictory. It´s the other way around. In newer software, be it kernel, rom or whatever, the developers take care to support older hardware, but can´t do this in older software which is outdated and not developed further and often also missing drivers for the newer hardware.
They can also fix bugs which were made in older software (kernels, firmware and apps) and the timeline is going forward due to it´s physical rules, not backwards.There were also no Aliens or machines who developed GB in the past but humans working for Google, who lerned further by knowing the issues they have made in the past to make it better in the future.
ICS and JB is the further developement of GB and the developers behind this newer ROMs are still the same humans. Just more clever now then they where while developing GB
Between a newer ROM just lagging and an older ROM randomly rebooting there is a huge difference.
So stop spreading such nonsense where you contradict yourself, else I will suggest you to use the oldest and "most bugfree way" (as a corollary of your statements) to comunicate by using carrier pigeons.
u r confused.
there r no update after gb kernel 2.3.6, gb kernel 2.3.7 is for nexus wallet update only.
wat update r u talking about??
if it is software, old software need to update so tat it can work with new or the latest.
i still using stock gb with my own tweaks, works perfect fine n bugfree, there no need to tell me.
u dun have to be so work up, u only screw urself up more often than not. :cyclops:
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u r confused.
there r no update after gb kernel 2.3.6, gb kernel 2.3.7 is for nexus wallet update only.
wat update r u talking about??
if it is software, old software need to update so tat it can work with new or the latest.
i still using stock gb with my own tweaks, works perfect fine n bugfree, there no need to tell me.
u dun have to be so work up, u only screw urself up more often than not. :cyclops:
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I´m not confused. It´s more you are confused because you obviously have no clue what you are talking about, nor why there is no kernel update for GB and even what´s the difference between 2.3.6 and 2.3.7.
And just by the way. The latest GB kernel for the SGW is 2.6.35 but not 2.3.6.
And since you even don´t know what update I´m talking about, I suggest you to flash the very first GB ROM the SGW was released with. I bet it will be better than the current one you are using
ok, u r rite about kernel version, android version stop at 2.3.6. n 2.3.7 is for nexus.
is stock gb rom is unstable? :silly:
my stock runs better than b4 (wo samsung widget apps).
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ok, u r rite about kernel version, android version stop at 2.3.6. n 2.3.7 is for nexus.
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Dude, what are you talking about.??? This is really pure nonsense. I can send you a 2.3.6 ROM for a Huawei Smartphone. You can flash it on your SGW and see if it works and I assure you it will brick your phone. Or I can send you JeallyBean for the same phone which is older than our SGW but got updated to JB.
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ask urself about ur phone bug is it common? i dun have bug similar on stock rom. :silly:
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What bug are you talking about? You must be really confused by telling me my phone has bugs I even do not know about...
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Dear friends
I will try to explain as fast as possible I installed custom ROM on my E975K the CM10.1.3 the Stable version 4.2.2 and I see it is really very fast and good but I have problem that let me feel so bad ... i have some problems in games and most of them from Gameloft like MC4 Real football 2013 and asphalt 8 I try to wipe and and but no way !!! Some people told me to use other kernel . I have problem that most kernels I see are orveclocked or have options to over clock .... My question is there safe kernel without any kind of overclock and I need it without options to overclock that what I need please .....if there is solution without change the kernel that will be more perfect !!! Thanks again ...
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Dear friends
I will try to explain as fast as possible I installed custom ROM on my E975K the CM10.1.3 the Stable version 4.2.2 and I see it is really very fast and good but I have problem that let me feel so bad ... Some games is not working and most of them from Gameloft like MC4 Real football 2013 and asphalt 8 I try to wipe and and but no way !!! Some people told me to use other kernel . I have problem that most kernels I see are orveclocked or have options to over clock .... My question is there safe kernel without any kind of overclock and I need it without options to overclock that what I need please .....if there is solution without change the kernel that will be more perfect !!! Thanks again ...
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Even I will reply you as fast as possible..If yu want better gaming performance roll back to stock...and I can assure tats the safe kernel without any kind of overclock..!!
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Even I will reply you as fast as possible..If yu want better gaming performance roll back to stock...and I can assure tats the safe kernel without any kind of overclock..!!
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Dear friend hasan
I don't agree with you as the stock is not the best in game for many reasons even there is some kernels work in lower then max frequency as this kernels can be more safe then the original stock ROM ...
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Dear friend hasan
I don't agree with you as the stock is not the best in game for many reasons even there is some kernels work in lower then max frequency as this kernels can be more safe then the original stock ROM ...
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who said stock always runs ur game at higher freq...Download onscreen performance monitor app and yu can see the difference...for NFSMW at max it takes 3 cores to run but most of the times ly 2 cores are active....also there is a file called thermald-8064.conf in /system/etc which can be used to underclock the core to 1026 mhz which applies to all cores....If yu knw how to mod the stock rom for use everything is possible..also remember stock kernels are more safe than any custom kernels...may be it applies to ly LG devices fa sure...
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who said stock always runs ur game at higher freq...Download onscreen performance monitor app and yu can see the difference...for NFSMW at max it takes 3 cores to run but most of the times ly 2 cores are active....also there is a file called thermald-8064.conf in /system/etc which can be used to underclock the core to 1026 mhz which applies to all cores....If yu knw how to mod the stock rom for use everything is possible..also remember stock kernels are more safe than any custom kernels...may be it applies to ly LG devices fa sure...
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Dear hasan
I thing there is miss understand I didn't mean that the stock kernel work at the max power but what I want to say that we must know that some developers can do good work even more better then some company's . CM is good example and even some company push customer to use non stock ROM with there weak support and update...
.... Using CM on your Optimus G let you make sure that the stock ROM is sooo bad behind it,,, I was thing different before ..
Hhhh
You let me lose my question friends any idea about kernel ???
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@ramiab8,if you think an unofficial rom is better than the firmware lg provided,thrn why do you have these issues? Your post should be ignored from start,because no one will support you for a custom rom. There are so many things that could go wrong on cm/pa/aosp/aokp roms... and you have no idea what are you talking about. Could you tell me how does cm "let behind stock so bad?" For bigger results in benchmarks?who gives a crap about tests?I tried all custom roms out there,didn't missed one,but in the end i got back to stock. Why?well,for all lg features,for a stable firmware that don't crash on me when i least expect. True,it's a modded stock,but it's way better than any aosp. I play alot of games,i never encountered the slightest issues so far.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.
Indeed LG did a very good job in terms of gaming performance on android 4.1. Nevertheless it can be even better. I have never had those problems on CM10.2 nor on CM11. All mentioned games are running lagless, without reducing my display-brightness
maybe you can try again with another kernel?
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@ramiab8,if you think an unofficial rom is better than the firmware lg provided,thrn why do you have these issues? Your post should be ignored from start,because no one will support you for a custom rom. There are so many things that could go wrong on cm/pa/aosp/aokp roms... and you have no idea what are you talking about. Could you tell me how does cm "let behind stock so bad?" For bigger results in benchmarks?who gives a crap about tests?I tried all custom roms out there,didn't missed one,but in the end i got back to stock. Why?well,for all lg features,for a stable firmware that don't crash on me when i least expect. True,it's a modded stock,but it's way better than any aosp. I play alot of games,i never encountered the slightest issues so far.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.
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Dear kimitza i thing that you don't know what you are talking about at all !!!! first everyone can have issues in original ROM and non stock ROM (you never heard about that !!!!) nothing can be complete be I SAID more better that is totally different !!! i thing you have no idea about what i am saying !!! and even you are talking about benchmarks !!! i didn't say any word about benchmark!!! even i didn't trust them i only trust the real use (did you ever heard about real using or not !!!) i am very hard user i find many disappointing in using the stock and these things i didn't find them in CM !!! (before i was thing like you but after test i found that is wrong) maybe as normal user you can find stock more better for you !!! if you are happy in LG features i find them like baby features!!! at the end i asked question but you are not able to answer me !!! if you thing that what i say not right for you don't answer me at all and don't try to give me lesson in something i know more better then many others !!!
Boing! Dude try latest version of Vanir 4.3.1. Thinks its the best performing aosp rom for our phone. And they're still updating, not like cm. MC4 awesome, A8 on highest settings also really good.
why did you bought a branded phone?to flash aosp based rom on it?why didn't you bought a nexus?it has vanilla on it,no "baby features". Then you wouldn't complain of laggy games on custom roms.I see what kind of power user you are ...I just don't understand how could someone complain about anything on a custom rom,without realising it's not the phone,it's the software with issues.Again, a power user would know the differences,but....what do i know?i'm a total newbie.
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why did you bought a branded phone?to flash aosp based rom on it?why didn't you bought a nexus?it has vanilla on it,no "baby features". Then you wouldn't complain of laggy games on custom roms.I see what kind of power user you are ...I just don't understand how could someone complain about anything on a custom rom,without realising it's not the phone,it's the software with issues.Again, a power user would know the differences,but....what do i know?i'm a total newbie.
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(((Then you wouldn't complain of laggy games on custom roms.I see what kind of power user you are ))))
i know what i am ,,, and i don't want any one to tell me what i am then i said i have problems in games i didn't say lag's at all !!! you thing that the problems in games is only lags !!! are you sure that you use mobiles at all !!! i see how much you know about mobiles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then asking is shortcut to many things friend if you don't know !!!
(((I just don't understand how could someone complain about anything on a custom rom ,,,without realising it's not the phone,it's the software with issues.Again, a power user would know the differences)))
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you don't hear that many custom ROM developers ask about any issues even in games i see that you know well !!! i will let you told somebody else about your fantastic ideas, but for me i need answer from someone who really know what he said !!! not just talking words without meanings at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks cyraxx84 i will see that one ,,,
ok...i give up...you are right...a custom rom will always be better than stock...i respect the devs for their work, i supported the asylum project(this i'm very fond of,but i supported many more) both here and galaxy note,even donate. But i'm realistic. I realize a code made from scraps will never be better than the official one. simple as that. Look more into it mr "power user" and learn how things work before making affirmations. Oh,and the font you used,yea...very mature .anyway...case closed...
I like the idea of reclaiming GN's reserved RAM, but we all understand there is no free lunch, those threads only mention 1080p record or playback support, what drawbacks of those RAM hack brought to us exactly?
I don't think most users who flash those kernel or even some kernel developer was acknowledged that. (especially who don't own a GN themself)
I keep seeing phase like "no known negative effects", "The ram being freed comes from things like 1080p playback/recording and other such things that keep ram even when not being used" .
They are wrong.
I test with a few video, show that all RAM hack has more or less backfire to GN's HW play-back ability, quick conclusion:
1. ASRAM is better than BigMEM. ( I just quote them by name, which I read in kernel thread, not pretent knowing what they are...).
2. Stock 693MB is better than ASRAM.
Two chopped video is attached,
When I said "better", I mean the kernel can allow more video files decode in hardware acceleration mode, aka, HW or HW+. Basically there is no video can play in HW mode with BigMem kernel. ASRAM can't play output.mp4 in HW mode, while outputb.mp4 is fine.
If by any chance you don't understand what is the difference between HW & SW playback...
Well, in short, HW will use less CPU to play a video, which lead to better battery performance, much better. I also tested that, it depends on you screen backlight and specific video parameter, in my test, SW mode will consume 2-3 times battery compare to HW mode.
Final conclusion:
If you watch video a lot (most online video is code by AVC1 ), avoid BigMEN hack kernel like superRAM, it's up to you whether use ASRAM though.
NOTICE: all 4.3 or later ROM may need another fix to play video without lag.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559138
This fix was discovered by @oubeichen
For the record, none of the test video is 1080p
So that's why some videos won't play smoothly on my gnex..
I guess i'll reserve such functions to my n7.
But when i was using no ASRAM/BigMem types like Trinity Kernel the HD playback was choppy too, since the 4.3.x + update everything messed up .
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But when i was using no ASRAM/BigMem types like Trinity Kernel the HD playback was choppy too, since the 4.3.x + update everything messed up .
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Exactly.
I have a 1080p video and it was playing smoothly on 4.2.x but it shutters in 4.3+ Roms.
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But when i was using no ASRAM/BigMem types like Trinity Kernel the HD playback was choppy too, since the 4.3.x + update everything messed up .
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That is another issue, and the fix is in the OP too, please refer to this link:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559138
seriousia said:
Exactly.
I have a 1080p video and it was playing smoothly on 4.2.x but it shutters in 4.3+ Roms.
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That is another issue, and the fix is in the OP too, please refer to this link:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559138
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So that's why some videos won't play smoothly on my gnex..
I guess i'll reserve such functions to my n7.
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No, not exactly. The decoder binary has problem since Android 4.3, there is a fix by reverting to 4.2.2 binary, as I said in OP or you can refer to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559138
SW does the decode thing all by CPU, and GN's 1.2G CPU is OK to deal with many video, you won't notice difference between HW from SW except the battery drain in most of the case.
I've read the source of BigMEM and ASRAM, they are the same thing. They just used try & error way to "find out" that took 50MB from the heap_tiler instead of the more aggressive 70MB will keep the carama 1080p work, nothing sophisticated. Those developer didn't realize this heap not only relates to the ability video can play or not, but also hardware decode ability.
Honestly, I hope they don't realize that, or they were lying and put the blame on application
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I've read the source of BigMEM and ASRAM, they are the same thing. They just used try & error way to "find out" that took 50MB from the heap_tiler instead of the more aggressive 70MB will keep the carama 1080p work, nothing sophisticated. Those developer didn't realize this heap not only relates to the ability video can play or not, but also hardware decode ability.
Honestly, I hope they don't realize that, or they were lying and put the blame on application
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How did you come to a conclusion that they were lying? And some developers DID realise that video playback is also broken and even has that mentioned in their threads. Or indirectly mentioned that things may break by making different variants for different users.
And by the way if you want 100% stable and working phone, xda or any other place that encourages you to tweak your phone is a complete no-no for you.
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Most devs mention that this "hack" breaks "things".
The matter is how important to a certain user is the ability to play flawlessly every video available.
Most users aren't bothered at all...
"Bigmem" and "ASRAM" and bull****. They aren't anything special.
They do the same thing to a different amount. "Bigmem" reclaims more than "ASRAM" and "SuperRam" reclaims even more than "Bigmem".
Mpokwsths invented the technique and others just decreased the amount of reclaimed RAM.
The source is available, you could build your kernel with less RAM reclaiming and try to find the sweet spot for you.
Or if you are a hotshot try and build a kernel that gives back 900MB of RAM and keeps the video playback perfect.
Otherwise ... seal your lips and be more kind to the "developers".
@mods: This thread should be closed or at least moved to the appropriate section.
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How did you come to a conclusion that they were lying? And some developers DID realise that video playback is also broken and even has that mentioned in their threads. Or indirectly mentioned that things may break by making different variants for different users.
And by the way if you want 100% stable and working phone, xda or any other place that encourages you to tweak your phone is a complete no-no for you.
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Do you read? I said If they know what they're doing, still claim "just some rare app will not work" , that is a lie in every definition. Did you ever read a line of source of any kernel or rom? Please shut-up before you've finished reading.(thumb down)
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Most devs mention that this "hack" breaks "things".
The matter is how important to a certain user is the ability to play flawlessly every video available.
Most users aren't bothered at all...
"Bigmem" and "ASRAM" and bull****. They aren't anything special.
They do the same thing to a different amount. "Bigmem" reclaims more than "ASRAM" and "SuperRam" reclaims even more than "Bigmem".
Mpokwsths invented the technique and others just decreased the amount of reclaimed RAM.
The source is available, you could build your kernel with less RAM reclaiming and try to find the sweet spot for you.
Or if you are a hotshot try and build a kernel that gives back 900MB of RAM and keeps the video playback perfect.
Otherwise ... seal your lips and be more kind to the "developers".
@mods: This thread should be closed or at least moved to the appropriate section.
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Thankyou, XDA need more retard like you two, rate the thread 1 star? I don't care, did you read? Did you know the 4.2.2 fix? I post this topic is for those who read those OP like great CM, say goodie, goodie, and backfire? Sorry, we don't cover that, or we won't get some "donate", wow, bravo.
The most interesting thing is someone who don't own the phone can "create" a kernel for it , and still some stupid stand in the defense line for them. I like it. It worth a watch.:laugh:
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I am totally fine if you feel like you should close this thread, I feel sorry for those user who using kernel not function as they'd expected. I feel even sorry for those developers who follow these BigMEM, ASRAM commits, making kernel they believe their kernel breaks nothing or just something rare use( like 1080p).
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Thankyou, XDA need more retard like you two, rate the thread 1 star? I don't care, did you read? Did you know the 4.2.2 fix? I post this topic is for those who read those OP like great CM, say goodie, goodie, and backfire? Sorry, we don't cover that, or we won't get some "donate", wow, bravo.
The most interesting thing is someone who don't own the phone can "create" a kernel for it , and still some stupid stand in the defense line for them. I like it. It worth a watch.:laugh:
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I did know about the 4.2.2 Ducati engine fix... It was posted a few days ago.
So that doesn't make me a retard after all???
You are not only ungrateful to the devs that do things for free but you are a ***** that calls names as well...
I suggest that devs make memory-reclaimed kernel versions optional, and the stable version should use the stock ROM allocation to avoid any function impairment.
Or the users that don't want the extra RAM can build whichever kernel they desire from source after changing the RAM reclaiming values...
Simple as that.
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Do you read? I said If they know what they're doing, still claim "just some rare app will not work" , that is a lie in every definition. Did you ever read a line of source of any kernel or rom? Please shut-up before you've finished reading.(thumb down)
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Even if I have read, android is God knows how many million lines of code and thousands of commits. They (kernel developers) never mentioned some rare app, they say it as a general thing. And please, even if I do not read github like a story book, I read OP and try my best to follow threads. And clearly most if not all made variants without RAM hacks or made variants that worked with most things. If that weird app doesn't work, screw it flash a kernel that doesn't mod with RAM. Or go fastboot flash to stock 4.3.
As pointed by others, you could make your own ram hack that is *better* or appreciate their work and accept the fact Galaxy Nexus sucked from day 1 in terms of RAM.
Seriously, if you're gonna rant you're also at the wrong section of the forum too. Have you read xda rules?
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I think kernel with 40MB RAM reclaimed is safe for most 720p video.
Kernel with ASRAM(50MB) cannot play 720p video that ref > 7 with HW nor HW+ decoder.
And with 40MB declaimed can up to ref = 9.
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This whole thread is just a giant ragefest, honestly it should be removed. I don't feel OP is correct in outright calling people liars, it's just not the appropriate way to get a point across in an adult developer community. Just because one individual has an issue with a particular app or a certain function properly working does not mean others will guaranteed have this same issue. With android we all do different tweaks, use different apps, kernels roms etc. This means that just because the particular apps you choose to use are not working because of Bigmem, Superram ASram blah blah blah, it doesn't mean it's an epidemic on all of our devices.
I have had no issues using MX Player or Youtube on HQ video setting with Superram, I haven't had a single reboot, freeze, app fc or anything else do to the SuperRam kernel, I've been using it since it first was released on 4.3. I use my custom settings with it as well. I am not trying to bag on randommmm, what I am merely doing here is saying that no one is right or wrong and the developers are certainly not liars.
On my custom kernel thread I have a poll on which kernel people prefer the most, as of right now 49 out of 73 people on there are using MPOkang superram kernel, none of them are complaining about it causing all these issues.
The OP of the Kernel clearly states that 1080p video playback/recording will not work, that is the only thing that is guaranteed to not work for sure, if you need 1080p on your device then simply do not use the kernel, quite simple.
With any kernel there is a chance of issues, but guess what? With any kernel settings there is a chance of problems too, just because people have certain issues with SuperRam kernel flashed does not mean it's superram, not everyone knows what they are doing when adjusting the kernel settings. Not to mention not every rom, especially 4.4.x roms, are going to work perfect.
I read randommmm's post about this on whatever thread he posted about it on, I personally do not feel this subject warranted it's own thread.
randommmm, I am in no way saying you don't know what you are talking about but..... until you have developed a kernel yourself you really should not be namecalling people that have. If this were as extreme of an issue as you are making it out to be there would not be so many using SuperRam kernel without complaint and there certainly would not be the vast amount of other kernel developers adding free ram modifications to their own kernels.
I sincerely mean no offence to anyone on this thread. I've been following it for a bit now and felt it was time to put my opinion in.
That is all.
Neph