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Which Sense ROM boots fastest and is the most stable?

Hi there,
I've been using Froyo 2.2 for some time but had some SD Card issues (Unexpected SD Card removal) and decided to check if flashing a new ROM will do any good. I've installed Cyanogen Mod 7 but after using it for half a day I wanted stock Sense back so flashed AuraxTSense v8.3. It looks nice, works quite fast at the beginning (and not knowing why it becomes slower after some time - observed during mass sms deletion) but boots ~7 mins - that's way tooooo long. Which one should I try next? Or maybe there is something wrong I've done while flashing? Wiped everything but dalvik before flashing.

LeeDroid's i believe is the best sense rom.
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD

Boots 7 MINS?
For the first time or always?
Because if you install anew ROM, it will take some time to rebulid the cache and get ready, so 7 mins at the first boot is normal.
But if it boots 7 mins always, you've done something wrong.
Also LeeDroid is fast. Boots up very quickly - at least for me it did.

Indeed it boots slower than Leedroid, but not 7 minutes. Both are good ROMs, but the current (and some of the previous) version of ROM has some memory leaks reported from some users including me. I switched to Aura in hope to find remedy for this, and been good so far.
Also both have issues with the Internet app, googling freezes the browser and it force closes itself after a minute.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

yeah, it was first boot, other took something like 3-4 minutes, and that's still too long :/
what if my Desire is S-On even if I have rooted it with Unrevoked? also, Hboot is 0.93. does it make any difference when trying to flash different roms?
EDIT:
ok, trying to flash LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD, will see how long will it take.
EDIT2:
16 mins of first boot, keep fingers crossed for my problems with unexpected SD removal

I've flashed LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD for the second time and there's no A2SD actually!! or I'am so tired that I can't find settings to force apps to install in SD. all apps install in internal storage and only some can be moved to SD... sooooooo annoying, it's 3:50 am here and I am so fuc*ing tired but have to have phone fully working today :/ aaaaargh!!!!

ReflexTSense HD is pretty nice and fast

got it on SD too so I'll probably try it now as AuraxTSense had A2SD brilliantly working.

How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Apps2sd is working perfect in leedroid. Your reading is what fails.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

with regard to first boot im always pleasantly surprised with AOSP roms esp Oxygen and Gingervillain ...they boot very fast and have gprs configured and working from the very beginning !
GV booted really fast for me.
stability is another issue
oops sorry - i read the title of the thread properly now....you meant sense roms....please ignore
leedroid roms do not take too long to boot. ap2sd feature work 100 percent..i guess the no ap2sd rom would boot up faster than the one with.

starburst is the best so far av got 700mb internal memory and rom is super fast

ok guys, it was my mistake (or rather lack of knowledge), so I'm coming back to LeeDroid. but will try No-A2SD first because I think those SD Card issues are not gone so moving Dalvik to SD would be risky.

LeeDroid Problem

Hi everyone i rooted my phone last night for the first time with LeeDroid, all that seemeed to happen was that it went back to the way i got the phone in the first place
I dont have Market, and if im honest i have no idea what to do
Can anyone help at all please ?
Thanks
Phil

Would i be better just downloading the 2.4 rom and trying that ?
How will i know that the ROM is installed correctly as like i said before it just seems like a new phone i got straight out the box ?
thanks

When you flashed the ROM did you do a full wipe? and Dalvik Cache too?

Matty Matt said:
When you flashed the ROM did you do a full wipe? and Dalvik Cache too?
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Honest answer , dont know
i think i rooted it correctly using Revoked, or it appeared like it did
in the software info on the phone it has this which to me means nothing but to someone it will
android 2.2
kernel version
2.6.32.15_leedroid_2.3 [email protected] # 1
software number
LeeDroid_V2.3d
Can you help ? thanks

That is a successful flash mate by the looks of it. Of course you lose all apps and settings after flash, and as far as I know leedroid is a sense Rom, so it looks very similar to what you got out of the box, but now you can mod it and flash different kernels and scripts, like data2ext.
Oh, and regarding market, just search for market apk and install it the way you'd install any app.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

LeeDroid looks and feels like a stock rom but with added extra bits, and speed.
you can overclock or underclock with setcpu run rooted apps.
the good thing about LeeDroid is that it looks familiar so it's a good starter rom to play about with. if you want something other than sense try a Miui rom or Redux.

Ive got 2.4 now but i have 2 issues
1. the market force closes when i select an app
2. when adding the htc people widget it lists no people in where they usually
Thanks

Now my SD card is saying Mounted Read only ?
any ideas ?

did you make an ext partition and a full wipe?
I don 't have any issues with this rom

Yes and i just tried to go back to delete and redo a new partition but its not showing only my pc is ???

i just reset it and now im getting the leedroid background i wasnt getting before , ive had to setup everything back from the beginning , facebook passwords etc
market is now working but im still getting the mounted read ony error

Either corrupt card or bad partitioning. Just partition it in recovery and search for ext align tool on Baadnewz blog. Google is your friend.
If partitioning doesn't help, try different card.
Sent from InsertCoin 2.0.1

ok sorted that last issue but how will i know if ive partitioned the sd card correctly ?
ive got a 16gb one and it says total space 13.75 & available space 13.47gb
and on the internal it only says 129mb
why is this ?

What was the fix for the last issue? If you don't provide full info we won't know where it could have fine wrong.
Sent from InsertCoin 2.0.1

tinky i partitioned it as you said in recovery but then i couldnt get past the loading screen with the joker on it aftwerwards
So i went back into recovery and i had to do a restore that was the only way i got it working and the memory card issue also vanished
Now its working properly should i backup my current ROM in ROM manager ?
what else do i need to do to make sure i dont **** it up in future ?
Also how will i know if ive partitioned the sd card correctly ?
ive got a 16gb one and it says total space 13.75 & available space 13.46gb
and on the internal it only says 116mb

How much space you assigned to ext? Also, not all roms support ext4, so if you did use align tool, then quite possibly that your Rom just can't see ext partition. Solution, partition again but this time don't use align tool which will convert any ext partition to ext4.
Regarding not loading after partitioning that is sort of expected, restore done the trick for you. Regarding not getting into this situation again, once you get it right just use recovery to do nandroid and ext backup, and keep it safely on pc, in case you need to change SD card. Then you just partition new card and do restore.
Sent from InsertCoin 2.0.1

Brilliant , thanks Tinky

Did it work?
Sent from InsertCoin 2.0.1

Anyone having issues on the latest Leedroid 2.4 with apps that have been updgraded from in-app billing?
Have one app (quota) which is now disabled due to the fact that the upgrade is now in progress whereas it worked fine on 2.3d.
The app dev suspects it is ROM and market related as other stock ROM users haven't had the same issue.

NOOB flashed [ROM][01/08][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.0.9

so first i flashed [ROM][01/08][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT
and it did work perfectly, except when i started to backup apps, it didn't put those to ext4 partition i made, it put those to internal mem and i ran out of space pretty soon. Tried to work my way somehow, but didn't find any useful tips.
So then i flashed [ROM][01/08][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin STOCK 1.0.9
and same thing, except this time i made ext3, but apps are still going to internal memory, even tho that both of these should automatically transfer apps to ext? partition.
Steps i made if someone sees something wrong:
1. Rooted with unrevoked
2. Changed recovery to Amon Ra
3. Backed up everything
4. Formatted and partitioned SD
5. Flashed ROM
i don't think i made anything wrong since everything is working perfectly, but what do i know, i'm just stupid construction worker with only basic technical knowledge.
So if i need something or need to do something, please help me.
if important, that CM7 hboot was with A2SD and Stock Hboot is with A2SD+
S*HIT, i'm too confused but that sense 3.0 is really beautiful and this whole thing made my desire to be in new level

Naah, figured out already. Now 150 apps and still almost 110mb free space at internal memory
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Glad you figured it out, could say what you did wrong though for people who will encounter same issue.

Don't know bro, stubborn as I am, I flashed it 3rd time and it worked.
To be exact I flashed that [ROM][01/08][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin STOCK 1.0.9
with 1gb ext3.
Doubled my score in quadrant earlier today

Has anyone tried the honeycomb sense version of IC's rom? I keep getting a bootloop on the stock one. Does anyone else have the same problem?

hTC Desire keeps freezing after on rooted ROMs

Hey guys.
A while ago I`ve rooted my hTC Desire and did an S-OFF, to be able to install custom ROMs.
I`ve "tested" a few custom ROMs, but none of them seemed to be stable.
Currently I`m on SuperNova_Classic_2.0.2.0 with built in Data2SD (iData2SD)(the idea is to have a stable rooted ROM, with DATA2SD and Sense), but every time I flash the rom, then install my fav apps, the phone keeps freezing at certain points, sometimes it runs OK for a week - with no freezing - other times it freezes in the first couple of days after ROM flash. I`ve tried not to install that many apps, but I`m still facing this freeze problem.
Has anyone experienced this before?
Here are the steps I took for ROM flashing
1. Created a 1GB ext4 partition on SD-CARD, preceded by a FAT32 partition(as required in the tutorial of Supernova)
2. Rebooted into Recovery - wiped data/factory reset; wiped cache partition; wiped Dalvik Cache
3. Installed the ROM zip file from SD-CARD; on first boot, except for the Wi-Fi connection, I haven`t touched anything(google accounts etc. - skipped all steps - ), waited for the system to stabilyze, then did a normal reboot in order for the DATA2SD function to work. After next reboot, DATA2SD was working properly(I even had the pink LED light up), Storage Information was showing the 1GB ext partition as an internal memory.
4. Installed all my apps, configured phone, widgets etc.
This way, at a certain point, the phone simply freezes, have to remove the battery to be able to use it again.
Here are my phone specs:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANel-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0
Transcend class 4 - 16GB microSD card
I`ve searched and searched on xda-developers, but haven`t found an answer for my problem, yet.
What am I doing wrong here?
Any help would be DEEPLY appreciated !!!

This is no help to you.... but I'm having exactly the same issue.
Sometimes it freezes when starting a game, but most of the time it won't unlock(ie phone unresponsive when I try to wake it).
This is not ROM related as it happened on several different Roms, with a full wipe between. I'm not overclocking.
The only things I can think of are:
-Partially corrupt ext partition on SD.
-failing hardware.
-some other sw issue ie radio(which has worked for a while before this started happening).

Thanks for your reply, Shaun - it does help, at least now I`m not alone in this
You`re right, it`t not ROM related, I`ve tried different ROMs myself, same problem.
I`ve also tried another SD CARD (class 2).
I don`t think it`s the radio, I have the latest version, the version required on Supernova tutorial for best compliance.
I really don`t want to believe that it`s a hardware fault, as I didn`t overclock either and always read/followed the exact right/official steps in root-ing/flashing ROMs.
I`ve reinstalled Supernova now, with absolutely no additional installation of fav apps. Going on 2 days with no freezeing, so far.
I`ll keep post-ing if any new developments occur.
Cheers.

You've not installed any apps at all? hmmm.
When you do re-install your apps(I assume from Titanium backup?), it'd be interesting to see if it starts freezing again.
This would then suggest either a dodgy app that we both have, or titanium backup itself causing the issue.

What SD card specs?
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rootSU said:
What SD card specs?
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I'm using the same card that i've had for the last 18 months-
it's an 8gb class 2 card with 768mb partition, the rest is Fat32.

I`ve started reinstalling some of the apps, the most important ones, like iGo, YahooMessenger, YahooMail, etc., but didn`t use Titanium Backup, installed them manually using Market.
So far, so good, no freezing.
My SD CARD specs: Transcend Class 4 - 16GB; 1GB ext2 partition for apps, and the rest is FAT32.
LE
I could be wrong, but from what I`ve seen so far, I would recommend NOT to use widgets that require superuser permissions. Also, before flashing any pre-rooted ROM, be sure to turn "Signature verification" OFF, in the phone`s "Recovery" screen options. If your ROM has any kind of "Data2SD" scripts integrated, after flashing ROM - at first boot, DO NOT configure anything (google account, sync, etc.), DO NOT download/install any apps yet, ONLY enter the Wi-Fi settings(if that is the case); leave the system to stabylize, then do a normal reboot(if the ROM supports "Fast boot" - turn it OFF before rebooting). At second normal boot, the DATA2SD scripts should kick in ( u should see the phone`s notification LED turn to: pink or blue - depending on the script used by the ROM).

A class 2 is a definite no no for Data2sd IMHO. Class 4 is debatable. I had a bit of lag with an older version of data2sd on a class 4. It may be better now, Depends what speed the card writes at really. If its minimum for class (4 MB/s) that could be a bit touch and go. EXT 4 would be the best option for the 2nd partition
I recommend using an a2sd+ solution temporarily to see if the freezes go away

I would mind the lag, I didn`t get any lag using my card though, but just saying, would mind if it would be laggy, the real problem is the constant freezing I`ve had.
If it`ll freeze again, I think I`ll go back to stock Froyo, use Apps2SD and install only the bare minimum.
U know, another thing I never quite understood, I think hTC makes one of the best smartphones on the market, but they limit their possibilites with small batteries and very little internal storage space. What`s up with that?

rootSU said:
A class 2 is a definite no no for Data2sd IMHO.
I recommend using an a2sd+ solution temporarily to see if the freezes go away
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I'm not using Data2SD. I'm using A2sd+. Same partition that I used on my Hero, and now my Desire for the last 14 months. Still getting freezes.
I don't think it's a speed issue.

a2sd should be fine on a class 2. What a2sd solution is it? Did you move dalvik too?
Its just a logical approach thats needed.
1) Eliminate the SD card by not running from it.
2) Change the rom
3) RUU
If after all that it still freezes, sounds like HW....

rootSU said:
a2sd should be fine on a class 2. What a2sd solution is it? Did you move dalvik too?
Its just a logical approach thats needed.
1) Eliminate the SD card by not running from it.
2) Change the rom
3) RUU
If after all that it still freezes, sounds like HW....
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Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking.
I'm currently on InsertCoin with A2SD+. I was on LeeDroid, then RunnyMede before that with the same issue. I did a full wipe when swapping Roms. Not sure about Dalvik- if it's done in the Rom then yes, otherwise I haven't consciously moved it.
1) I might try a different SD that i have lying around- Nandroid it etc.
2) As above, already done that.
3) Last resort. Although a rooted RUU wouldn't be a massive issue for a day or 2.
If it's HW, I better get some insurance.
Edited to add: my SD card is actually a class 4. SD card tests suggests read speeds of 19-20mb/s and write speeds of 7-9mb/s.

Fixed my issue. It's the Kernel. Apparently the latest 2 kernels have the ability to undervoltage when not in use. Unfortunately, this can also cause the lockups i've(and possibly you've) been experiencing.
The last kernel without this in is: 2.6.35.14_110911.
This has 100% solved my issue and I recommended flashing it if you still having the same issue.

Great.
If I get another freeze, I`ll flash the 2.6.35.14_110911 kernel u`ve recommended.
Thanks a lot, dude.
If ever in Romania, look me up, got a few beers with your name on them
LE
If it`s not too much to ask, could you possibly post a download link for that kernel version?

i_cs_u said:
Great.
If I get another freeze, I`ll flash the 2.6.35.14_110911 kernel u`ve recommended.
Thanks a lot, dude.
If ever in Romania, look me up, got a few beers with your name on them
LE
If it`s not too much to ask, could you possibly post a download link for that kernel version?
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No problem.
I've never been to Romania...
Kernel at the bottom of this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18894823&postcount=10450

Did you flash the kernel while on existing ROM, or did you reflash de ROM as well?
And what ROM are u using with this kernel?

try using the earlier versions of super nova and data2sd, I also had the freezing problem but that was AFTER I upgraded to the newest version of supernova and data2sd

I`m using the 2.0.2.0 version, not the latest 2.4.0.0.
Earlier than 2.0.2.0?

i_cs_u said:
Did you flash the kernel while on existing ROM, or did you reflash de ROM as well?
And what ROM are u using with this kernel?
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Flashed straight over the top. Insertcoin ROM.

Use the latest Supernova and see. It has a pretty good kernel.

[Q] Unable to boot many roms

So, like a half of a year ago I've got my Desire, second hand. Now I didn't want to be stuck forever on Android 2.2 and old Sense, so I decided to root and install a newer rom. Rooting and S-OFF were succesful after a bit messing around, but it worked. So, I've tried a lot of roms, but just a few of them seemed to work, Usually the ones, I didn't need. Right now I'm on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom, but it sometimes has a problem with the microphone. Else than that, it works nicely stable, many times more stable than the 2.3.3 RUU from HTC. But don't really like the interface, I'm a huge fan of Sense.
Now I didn't get any Sense rom to work, all the way from the 2.1 Sense roms to the newest 4.1 rom (where the number is the Sense version). I only got some plain roms to work, which I've used a little time, but they don't really satisfy me.
So, the tech information: rooted with Revolutionary, so the recovery is the ClockworkMod. The phone is also S-OFF, runs on HBOOT 6.93.1002, and currently runs on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom. I've tried almost all roms with Sense, exept for some new ones (4.0+) since they still have a lot problems with things I need to have.
So, I hope somebody is able to help me.
Looking right now, I haven't tried the latest Cooldroid Revolution yet, so I'll try that right now.

Tell us a little about your sd-ext partition.

I'm 99% certain you didn't create EXT partition on SD card, or you didn't do it correctly.
Use 4ext recovery to partition your SD (create 1GB ext4 partition and nothing else, rest will be FAT32 where you store your media etc.)
Reason why Touchwiz 5 JB worked for you, is that it doesn't require EXT partition to boot, since you have to activate a2sd script manually using terminal.
And without a2sd you will run out of space rather quickly.

Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.

Scoutsassin said:
Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.
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Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.
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oooh nice and simple!

Good, with the EXT 2 partition it all works now. Got RSK Satelite (whatever it's called) running, Thanks for the help everybody!