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Lack of multi-tasking - Possible return

The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?

Srgsx said:
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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multitasking is a bit of a joke on this phone. I hope HTC addresses this in a future update.
sent from my HTC One X

Since Sense + OS alone consume most of the ram (> 80%) on the device, I suppose integrated Android task killer is configured in some paranoid mode and is killing backgroups apps like crazy.
If this bothers you, I would install one of senseless ROMs on your HD2 and be happy Possibly there is also a way to make task killer more civilized in custom Sense ROMs.
Sadly, Sense 4.0 is quit bloated and One-X should have at least 1.5GB of RAM to begin with.

Yup, I agree, multitasking is really bad... All my dolphin browser pages reload if I click the home button and try to go back.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.

It will addressed with uopdates after all you bought a quad cote for multi tasking, some of xda chefs are communicating with HTC dev and we reported the very aggressive memfree values, also if you are rooted you can control them with supercharger script

Srgsx said:
Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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When I change the wireless state on my i9100 the same thing happens so it's Android, not HTC or the One X. Even if the USA Today home page was retained clicking on any of the stories would result in an error because there's no wireless connection available. Get an app like Pocket that allows you to save articles from across the web for offline reading. The CNN app also gives you the option to save stories offline.

The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.

mgfjd said:
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
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Do any of you understand how multitasking in Android even works? Even if a task is killed by the OS, apps developed that follow the published standard will re-launch in their last state in less than a second. And the better XDA devs should know that. So while HTC's memory management may be aggressive, there's more to it if individual apps aren't behaving correctly.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html

Srgsx said:
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol

louis.b said:
If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
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Its called a forum, in which I can and will reach out to others to get feedback on what I consider a situation with a very flawed segment of Sense which is making me contemplate returning an otherwise very nice device.
Look Apple has been doing this puesdo multi-tasking, app-pausing just fine since 4.0 what the heck is HTC thinking ? Browser tabs store just fine for days WITHOUT an internet connection. I geuss I am just expecting too much.
Sorry to interupt move along nothing to see here - lol

If you really want to pile-on, head over here. The XL'rs are far more up in arms than the X'rs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
I've asked the same questions of people that say the way multitasking is implemented is a real hardship but no one's answered. What's the harm? Of "X" hours a day using the phone, what percentage of your time is actually spent active in two (or more) apps simultaneously? And with a powerful processor it shouldn't matter whether a background app is in state or has to be restarted based on the way Android works (see below). I'm not trying to pick a fight I'm trying to understand the depth of the issue.
And since no one's read the article I linked to, here's the cruxt...
Once Android determines that it needs to remove a process, it does this brutally, simply force-killing it. The kernel can then immediately reclaim all resources needed by the process, without relying on that application being well written and responsive to a polite request to exit. Allowing the kernel to immediately reclaim application resources makes it a lot easier to avoid serious out of memory situations.
If a user later returns to an application that's been killed, Android needs a way to re-launch it in the same state as it was last seen, to preserve the "all applications are running all of the time" experience. This is done by keeping track of the parts of the application the user is aware of (the Activities), and re-starting them with information about the last state they were seen in. This last state is generated each time the user leaves that part of the application, not when it is killed, so that the kernel can later freely kill it without depending on the application to respond correctly at that point.
And based on this, the SGS3's handling memory managment just like the One X so there don't appear to be a lot of options for those with special multitasking needs.
greyhulk said:
The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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Try to install Apex launcher free version and set it as default launcher. Reboot and see is situation get better. If works for you then it is sense problem.
It works like a charm on my X. No any problem for multitask.And it is so smooth.
Of course if you do want sense launcher then have to live with issue. But no harm to try Apex to see at least multitask can wrok or not

BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle

At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?

Apex so far is best launcher for one X. I used it for 1 month. If it is not work for you I will post another solution which may help.

Apex- ok you might be on to something !
Can still hold app data while in airplane mode...

Srgsx said:
the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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If your rooted then flash Jan's Advance Notification toggle to enable Airplane Mode it will retain the webpage because you're not going into a different app.

Srgsx said:
At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
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I dont think this is caused by sense taking up too much resources. Seems to be an ics inherent thing. The sgs3 was just reported to behave the same way.
Oh yes i tried the ipad3 the other day. The display was perfect but what surprises me is it multitasks amazingly well. I can have 5 - 6 apps open including youtube and browser with multiple tabs and it switches between them smoothly without once quiting the browser. Really sad to see android/ ics regressed to this state that ios significantly beat it.

if it is ics problem why I can use mutlitask on my one X?

Raider0001 said:
BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
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I keep asking the question "what does it mean?" and everyone keeps replying "it shouldn't be this way." If a doctor says "there’s something wrong with your liver," there's a big difference between hepatitis A and stage 3 cancer. Other than the perceived loss of something you had how does the way that the One X handles multitasking affect what you do every day? And how often is it a problem?
I had a i9100 and in practical use I don't notice a difference. The exception being the browser that stupidly reloads itself every time it restarts but it does that regardless of whether launched from recent apps or directly from the app drawer or a shortcut.
And if this is true it doesn't really matter what a Desire, HD2, or SGS did.
greyhulk said:
The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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Why does One X stutter?

Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.

timlambo said:
It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
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Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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ToddeSwe said:
Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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No, it doesn't, and it's so smooth it's actually scary. At least the aosp builds don't have lag. Whether the Htc version will be the same, remains to be seen.
I have to admit the feeling can't be described. Bad to hear about that 8 devices which all had wifi problems.

ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344

Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms. After flashing back to even the test rom, i was really shocked. This is really incredible for a quad core. It stutters so much it's crazy. Even the app drawer lags. I just charged my phone to flash a jelly bean room. HECK, it's not just jelly bean, i was doing fine on ICS CM9 ROM. Is it sense?
As for the wifi problem, that just adds more fuel to the fire for people who buy an htc device for the first time, my first experience with HTC is really not as nice as i would have hoped it would be. Sadly i realized my WIFI problem after rooting. I didn't make a nandroid back up and without an RUU i can't see myself getting back to stock unless someone who is also on the same provider as i am is willing share their nandroid back up with me so i can send it in for repair - not blaming htc on this one...just HOPE I'M NOT CHARGED FOR H/W FAULT that comes from them.
I can wait at the moment to get my wifi repaired.Can't say i am satisfied with the device. One thing that's for certain is it's not the hardware in the phone that's the issue. I can only hope HTC does the right thing when it comes to this device.
HTC Sense is beautiful compared to Jelly bean , that just visually. However the lag that comes with it outweighs the beauty. That's my take on all of this so far. Hope they do the right thing.

BarryH_GEG said:
Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
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Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
use the tapatalk xda app
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
scroll in the gmail app
Those are some examples of the stutters that annoy me with htc roms, it may be a little nit picky but a quad core device should be able to do all the things listed above with ease.

shadehh said:
Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms.
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Were you using the stock ROM and JB the same way? My One X flies after a hard reset but once I load my 97 apps and have my ten syncs running in the background it's noticably slower (but still five times faster than the i9100 it replaced). I got to try out a (S4) SGS3 for a few days. It wasn't any faster than my One X with the same apps and syncs running and I noticed the launcher issue talked about in the thread I posted above. The browser's faster because it's a Samsung strength and HTC weakness. A car accelerates differently with one passenger than it does with five while also towing a trailer.
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JJbdoggg said:
Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
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I don't even have to try this one. HTC's known for their pretty average stock browsers. I keep using it because I use the "read" button a lot. Samsung ditched reflow in the SGS3 to ensure a smoother browsing experience. Users aren't too happy.
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
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With a song playing via BT, I scrolled through songs and it didn't stuttter. I have about 1K songs stored on my phone.
use the tapatalk xda app
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Don't use it.
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
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Turned it on, unlocked it, went right to the app drawer and started scrolling. I noticed some drag in the transition from one page to another that went away the more I kept scrolling.
scroll in the gmail app
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I get Gmail through the stock app.

Can be either the lack of preparation (has to dump whatever it was going to render and render a new one), which triple buffering solves, or garbage collection being done, which is most commonly manifest as random FPS drops while scrolling through a long list. The first will be fixed in 4.1, the second requires disabling the Dalvik scroll cache.

Slower After Sense 4.1

Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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well, you are the first one from whom i have heard that after installing sense 4.1 your phone is slower...
mate 4.1 is lot faster than sense 4.0 and is locked at 60 fps
try factory reset once and check if these problems still exist
have been using sense 4.1 for more than 2 weeks now and just loving it

Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
Enviado desde mi HTC One X

jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Try a factory reset or if your rooted with a custom recovery just format cache and dalvic cache. Then Give the phone 2 full charges from at least 20% in at least a 2 day span.
It could be a bad app or mod that is causing the issues. Usually it's never a bad ota update that slows the device. Also I recommend a backup program.
mzaza said:
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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The app drawer would only lag if you have a large amount of apps installed. Maybe get rid of ones you don't use
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Not so great after all...
While I don't notice that my phone is any slower after the update to 4.1, the update hasn't solved my WiFi issue. Which I wasn't really expecting it to, but they did say it should even out the signal, it hasn't. I couldn't tell the difference about the 3D widget stacking or whatever on the stock launcher, 'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
That is not to say that the update didn't do anything. I know that benchmarks don't prove much of anything, some argue that they do. I don't really care too much for them, but out of curiosity sake, I ran some. Now, my phone is bone stock, I can't unlock the bootloader because my volume rocker cable is broken. So I'm not rooted, nothing. With Sense 4.0 and Android 4.0.3 I scored horribly, worse than the One X in the stats, at about 3900. I don't know what was going on, but I ran that twice and got the same result. Anyway, after the update to 4.1 and 4.0.4 I scored 5928 and that is with Apex Launcher and Holo Locker locked in memory.
Take from the benchmarks what you will! The 4.1 update does not work miracles, but it's a step in the right direction!

Brett610 said:
'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
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You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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chrisjcks said:
You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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I am very serious, I found it to be very smooth to begin with on 4.0... I didn't have my screens filled with lots of widgets or shortcuts though. That might make a difference. I haven't tried using a livewallpaper yet either. I do notice that Recent Apps seems to be a lot smoother, but with the stock launcher, I don't see much. The app drawer might be quicker to open than before.

jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I'd run an RUU.

We should start writing "marked" everytime we find trolls.
So whisky dont have to read entire thread to close it.
MARKED
Enviado desde mi HTC One X

dragonesdenano said:
Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
Enviado desde mi HTC One X
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Most certainly are right started off with a One X, got rid of it due to all the WiFi problems and other things coming to light, then picked up another one because the GS3 is so boring, but now I have both.
What I will say is what I am experiencing is not all the time every second, its just sometimes.. I'll have a quick go resetting and messing about, thanks for the suggestions guys.
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2.17 is brisk
try to wipe or free some space on your SD card

I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...

slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Well, recents apps loads of moves perfectly.
Home screens are silky smooth.
If your not getting that, go install a RUU and fix it.
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slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Hi,
Had the same problem. Turns out at least on my device after update to 2.17 the dev option "Don't keep activities" was ticked.
I know it wasn't before.
Wonder if it was a battery saving measure. Anyway made my phone sluggish so I turned it off, all back to normal.
Cheers

Note II - Laggy and jerky?

I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?

zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
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I have 245 apps installed on my Note 2 and it screams.
I showed to one of my coworkers, who has the S3, and he was commenting on how much faster it was than his phone.
So I'm not sure what the problem is there. Some sort of horrible bloatware?
- Frank

ChodTheWacko said:
I have 245 apps installed on my Note 2 and it screams.
I showed to one of my coworkers, who has the S3, and he was commenting on how much faster it was than his phone.
So I'm not sure what the problem is there. Some sort of horrible bloatware?
- Frank
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This phone is like the Buggati of smartphones. It cant get faster than this atm....
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Take the trolling else where... We all know how the Note 2 actually functions!

zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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Nope... its superfast!
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zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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I hate lag & hope the reviews are correct that the Note2 is a game changer for Android sans the dreaded lag but did notice some YouTube Videos on ways to address stock device lag:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=samsung+note+2+speed+up
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=samsung+note+disable+s+voice
How to Remove Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Home Button Lag. S Voice Tips
I'd also recommend people reboot the device if possible when testing it in stores..

zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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maybe it had all those app runing in the background since most ppl never close them

Mods please close this thread. The Note 2 is the smoothest phone I have ever held. A pure joy to use.
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Pathetic topic i hv ever seen...
Totally a waste of time reading this topic..
Fired From My FireDevice.

I have close to 150+ apps and widgets on my home screen and I have yet to experience what you are talking about.
But again in stores everyone mess around with a phone and God knows what they do it.
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americasteam said:
Mods please close this thread. The Note 2 is the smoothest phone I have ever held. A pure joy to use.
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Not sure why the thread would need to be closed. The Op was simply asking a question based on his experience in a store. Some people need to relax!
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daz_2000 said:
Not sure why the thread would need to be closed. The Op was simply asking a question based on his experience in a store. Some people need to relax!
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I agree, some people take things a little to close to heart. But anyway in reply to the OP, I think that it was most likely because of everyone that uses the phone that goes through the store. I guarantee that thing has so many apps running in the background. If you go again, I say try to reboot it, and if you can't do that, try and close out as many apps as possible.

Obvious troll thread imo or the OP is a typical iPhone user in wich case he is not to blame as iPhones prevent you from using your brain

In defense of the OP I would say that I have noticed a very occasional lag once or twice when something has been running. For example running the premium version of printer share caused a massive drain on resources including battery and caused my device to hiccup. Also, I have noticed slowdowns with s-planner and netflix - both have frozen on me forcing at the least a force-close of the app and once a force reboot.
So, before too many people start jumping on the 'It's a troll, run for the hills' bandwagon, perhaps take a minute to realise that the stock device, while being simply awesome, fast, smooth and generally amazing is not completely bug free.
Just a thought.
Stock and Unrooted GNote 2 (for now.......)

kinsago said:
In defense of the OP I would say that I have noticed a very occasional lag once or twice when something has been running. For example running the premium version of printer share caused a massive drain on resources including battery and caused my device to hiccup. Also, I have noticed slowdowns with s-planner and netflix - both have frozen on me forcing at the least a force-close of the app and once a force reboot.
So, before too many people start jumping on the 'It's a troll, run for the hills' bandwagon, perhaps take a minute to realise that the stock device, while being simply awesome, fast, smooth and generally amazing is not completely bug free.
Just a thought.
Stock and Unrooted GNote 2 (for now.......)
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Can you name one perfect and flawless man-made item?

gee2012 said:
Can you name one perfect and flawless man-made item?
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My point exactly...

I had the same experience in the Vodafone store, the note 2 on display almost came to a halt. I tried holding down the home button to see if there were many apps running but it wouldn't even bring up the task manager. Now I KNOW the note 2 is a beast but an 'average' consumer might have been put off by it.
I still can't make my mind up between this and the S3 LTE version that also comes with 2GB RAM.

Oh come on guys, these in store demo unist are left on for days and days and days without reboot, people mess around with them all day, they are a prime example of a phone at its worse, ram usage will be high, apps won't have been closed properly or at all etc etc.

Dude, turn off Power Saving mode.
-_-

Telomeresis said:
Dude, turn off Power Saving mode.
-_-
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I use my phone most of the time with power saving mode, I have about 100 apps and my free ram is about 100Mo and I'm yet to experience any lag at all.
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[Q] It cannot be that slow

Hello there, first time i write here but been reading a lot!
First, you need to know I own a galaxy s2 s3 s4 (all rooted) and my good friend has a note 3.
Also played a lot with nexus10 and the first galaxy note 10.1
I waited so long to buy the "perfect" tablet. Ipad is out of question even tho we know they are awesome tablet, i am a system administrator and i need Android.
So when i heard about the new note 10.1 2014, i was very existed because i REALLY like my s4 and my friend's note 3.
And i thought the s pen was awesome for a tablet (seeing my kid having fun drawing on their own picture is a +).
Well i convicted my girlfriend we need this, i started reading a lot of reviews and decided to buy because reviews are all saying the tablet was the best to compete vs the ipad.
I bought it brand new on eBay because there was no place i can buy it in Canada.
As soon as i received it, i found it run so damn slow. .. WAY slower than my s4.
I can live with the short battery life, that's not a big deal even tho the 2x quad core was supposed to help that (running on 1.3 while on hold to save battery).
Looks like it is always running on that 1.3ghz cpu now.
I did a factory default reset. .. Then a hard reset, nothing helped.
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
My friend with the note 3 came here last night and was amazed to see how the screen has a bad responds to finger but very good with the pen. Also how it freezes and lags.
Now... is it only MY galaxy note ?
Should i send it to Samsung and hope it is going to be OK when i receive it back ?
Is it normal and should be all fixed with kit kat update ?
Or normal... They missed it so i should just throw it away ? If so... What else should i get ?
I very like the aspect. The home/menu/back buttons, the o/s (touch wiz), the nexus 10 was not that great even with kit kat, but runs so much faster.
I don't know what to do, i want a tablet with the s pen, but the hold note 3 is running smoother than my 2014 edition! !!
I guess i need help here !
And as i bought the item from usa eBay, I'll have to pay for the shipping to Samsung if i send them my tablet for repair !
Thank you very much for your help and advice !
Martin L.

Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores

SherifMedhat said:
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
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It all seams to be random. .. Now the gallery works perfectly.
Really looks to be a problem switching from a cpu to the other and stays on the 1.3
Right now, while typing this, i got an error saying the gallery has stopped working! !
Any idea which benchmark i should use ?

See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!

genius312 said:
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
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What firmware version is installed on your new Note 2014?
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genius312 said:
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
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I have no problems with the gallery app. Before I bought the Note, I had the Xperia Tablet Z for a short time and it was much slower in the Gallery app. My JPEGs usually are about 10 MByte each and browsing hundreds of them works very well on the Note.

Where do i find the firmware ?
Model Number is sm-p600
Android 4.3
Kernel 3.4.39-204073
version jss15j.p600ueubmk1

genius312 said:
Where do i find the firmware?
version jss15j.p600ueub-----mk1
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You are on MK1 which is the latest in US as far as I'm aware.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.

GeorgeP said:
You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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Thank you for your answer.
No sd card yet and i do not think i will need any. I have enough on my s4
I found the system slow so i did a factory reset from the menus.
It was still slow after so i did a hard reset.
If it is a corrupted file. .. That file is in the core files because the hard reset would have wipe it !
But it makes sense tho since the problem is random.
But every thing should be as smooth as the s4 and the note 3 ?
Not because it had a bigger screen. ..i should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?

genius312 said:
Not because it had a bigger screen.
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
I should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).

BarryH_GEG said:
The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !

genius312 said:
True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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It is what it is my friend. You're running the latest U.S. s/w so unless you're having a h/w issue (doubtful) than the performance you're getting is the performance you're going to get. At least until updates hopefully speed of fluidity. The Tab/Note|Pro's running 4.4/M-UX appear significantly faster than the N10.1-14 and use the exact same h/w so the occasional lag we're seeing is curable with s/w.

Hopefully yes.
Is there any software I can install to see which CPU is running ?
Because when it runs great, I m happy with the little lag... not a big problem
But when it decides to stop, them everything is slow.
I see no updates running, if I empty the ram, it is still using 2.05 out of 3 ! ( I have 2 users)
Even switching from users to the other is slower then what I see on youtube (People showing that fonctionnality).
and WAAAY slower that the old nexus 10 I used.
Maybe the switching from 1 processor to the other is not perfect and gives problem a lot ...

Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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*unistall
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!

genius312 said:
Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
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Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact)
I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird !
I only have 5 apps installed on it.
Also, I use swype to type text (slide my fingers through the keyboard) and sometimes it just doesn't work. I start sliding and it's like it cannot see my finger anymore. Works better with the pen again. Like I said previously, like it the screen has hard time to detect my finger on the screen.
Again, sometimes .. not always !
I think I m gonna see how much it will cost me to send it back to samsung and have it repaired .. I don't think all this is normal.
A lot of people say they bought tablets for 150$ and they works perfectly.
Yes mine does multi user, but at 150 I could have bought 4 of 'em + a lot of accessories !

genius312 said:
Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact). I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird ! I only have 5 apps installed on it.
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Don't confuse "apps" with "processes" and "services." Because of all Samsung's "stuff" (EG: Multi View, S Pen) there are a gazillion open processes running in the background anticipating being needed. If you go in to Task Manager and "clear RAM" you'll see 40-50 processes being closed. You really needn't worry about it because Android dynamically manages memory and if something in the foreground needs memory it'll prioritize what to close in the background. Also, Mali reserves probably 500MB for itself at all times so you never really had 3GB of RAM truly available. Samsung, not being a benevolent company, included 3GB of RAM in the N3 and N10.1-14 for a reason.
In other words, if you're having some type of performance issue it's highly doubtful it's being caused by RAM starvation.

Of course the ram is not the problem... even if there is only 300 mo free, that s enough to manage the program I run.
But I really hate when I cannot swipe to type, when the gallery is so buggy that I cannot browse my pictures ( 10 photos max... not linked with Dropbox or facebook), when I have to wait for the next page in the apps page, when I try to slide the page and it just doesn't t work.. have to do it twice or trice ... When I want to slide down the notifications but I have to try 3-5-6 or 7 times...
Switching pages in the S note take times...sometimes lag but that is not a problem for me... All the others tho really makes me feel like either that tablet is a crap or mine has a problem .
I would sincerely prefere the second
When it s not buggy it works great... but sooooo unstable