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[APP][v0.5 BETA][29/12/08] I Am Rich HD

I Am Rich HD
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FAQ
What is it?
"I Am Rich HD" is an imitation of the useless "I Am Rich" iPhone app that was around some time ago and by association is completely useless as well.
But whats the point then?
Well... there isn't one. Its just my venture into the world of WinMo development. And its pretty.
(On that note, could someone recommend some websites/tutorials/ebooks on the specific topic of using VS2008 for developing WinMo apps. Thanks.)
How do I use it?
Theres 2 buttons.
- Info Button -> shows you the matra. (recite it at least 3 times a day to make sure you have your wealth forever)
- the X button -> closes the app
To go to the main screen from the mantra hit the back button on the HD.
For the about dialog tap the mantra.
But there already is an "I Am Rich" Windows Mobile app.
Thats not a question. But anyway the other app that is out there did not display properly on my HD. I believe it was developed for the Diamond.
Something isnt working.
Again not a question but honestly I have no idea. I thing you need to have .NET Framework 3.5 for the app to work properly.
How do I install it?
Just copy the exe anywhere in your device and run it.
Can I help? / Can I have the resources?
Sure. If you are interested in doing some pointless fun programming PM me and I will send you all the graphics. I would like to include some further changes to the program, unfortunately my VS2008 programming skills are pretty limited. PM me if you can lend a hand and/or answer a few specific questions.
Thanks for giving it a try. Any feedback is appreciated (and I mean any).

nice my friend lol
thank you for your share

nice effort

could u please upload to other sire?
i cant d/l from hre...

optiquest said:
could u please upload to other sire?
i cant d/l from hre...
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Sure, here it is - http://www.yousendit.com/download/TTZsQndLeFgyWGNLSkE9PQ

xb00t said:
"I Am Rich HD" is an imitation of the useless "I Am Rich" iPhone app that was around some time ago and by association is completely useless as well.
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its so useless i dont even wanna put it on my phone

umexed said:
its so useless i dont even wanna put it on my phone
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Then I guess I have achieved my goal.

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2110
I made the news. How cool is that.

xb00t said:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2110
I made the news. How cool is that.
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ahahhahahhahhahahhaha bro seriously that made my day!!

I just installed the "I Am Rich HD" on my phone. But where can i find it?

works on my x1
lol ... so pointles that im going to keep it and let somone use my phone and have them figure it out for a good laugh.

i want to give a go at developing some games and software....
is it very difficult to make something like this...
What i mean is... in Visual Studio is it easy to use...

hipey said:
I just installed the "I Am Rich HD" on my phone. But where can i find it?
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From the FAQ:
How do I install it?
Just copy the exe anywhere in your device and run it.
Giznetic said:
i want to give a go at developing some games and software....
is it very difficult to make something like this...
What i mean is... in Visual Studio is it easy to use...
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Ive had little to no exposure to VS before but making this "app" didnt take more then a couple of hours. And that includes Photoshop time. But knowing some programming is a must just to make your way around VS. I started here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445396
Good luck.
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ahahhahahhahhahahhaha bro seriously that made my day!!
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Mine too.
By the way, great work with PowerOFF. I find it extremely usefill. Care to share some tips for the new starters?

xb00t said:
From the FAQ:
How do I install it?
Just copy the exe anywhere in your device and run it.
Ive had little to no exposure to VS before but making this "app" didnt take more then a couple of hours. And that includes Photoshop time. But knowing some programming is a must just to make your way around VS. I started here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445396
Good luck.
Mine too.
By the way, great work with PowerOFF. I find it extremely usefill. Care to share some tips for the new starters?
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what version of visual studio did you use?

visual studio 2008

xb00t wrote: I Am Rich HD
congratulations, on getting rich! are you gonna buy us all a beer? http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Paranoid Android Rom interest?

Any interest in having this Rom ported over? I have no clue how to do it but would love to see it ported over as it is and or ported over with AOKP as the base.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628206

Sean-El said:
Any interest in having this Rom ported over? I have no clue how to do it but would love to see it ported over as it is and or ported over with AOKP as the base.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628206
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I did mention it to Venum about a week ago. I will have to ask him if he's considering it because he's been busy with work and the last several ROMs he released
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yes i want my own rom nowz!

JohnCorleone said:
I did mention it to Venum about a week ago. I will have to ask him if he's considering it because he's been busy with work and the last several ROMs he released
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Cool. Good to hear. The rom looks great and has everything I want in it except probably based on AOKP would make me happier.

The best part of the rom so far has to be this
20120504v0.4preview: Apps were too small? Problem solved!
First ever Android ROM with Per-App-Density feature, it once and for all solves the problem that was tablet mode. You never, ever have to deal with apps that are too small again since now you can decide how apps, systemapps, framework-elements and even widgets are scaled by defining their native dpi seperately from the system DPI. Its an experimental feature and for now these values are defined in your /system/build.prop - it has drawbacks (maily notifications can look a bit strange), but that will be fixed in time. Warning: Keyboards MUST run in system DPI!
A list of apps and predefined values is included, this should include most of what you need. everything else is blown up to 210 dpi per standard. if you still need apps to be bigger, get a build.prop editor from the market, edit and reboot.
Trebuchet fixes: Folder Name cut-off, landscape name cut-off, divider bars
Please set your Font to "Normal" in the System Settings, you won't need "Huge" anymore and all this does now is provoke overlapping.

Haven't really gotten into the tablet roms much but this one looks SICK!
I'd definitely rock this.

HyDra Rom looks pretty much the same except for some theming and the wallpaper maybe check it out

Yeah u gotta love that dpi per app feature and evidently it is being worked on for the galaxy s2, which I am guessing is the international variant. And I do like the hydra rom. Just not that Mega blue theme. Lol I'm sure I could apply a different theme but I'd prob end up breaking something but hopefully someone will port this to our device. Looks good
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just need two things
1. cyanogenmod or any stable aosp rom. aokp does not test their tab related code and you get a whole bunch of broken things that come with it, its not a good base for paranoidandroid. cm works out of the box.
2. a dev whos willing to port paranoidandroid and help us making the hybrid features better.
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HyDra Rom looks pretty much the same except for some theming and the wallpaper maybe check it out
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as far as i can tell its plain tablet mode. paranoid is hybrid mode. we do drop systemUI into tabmode, but do our best to not trash your device by doing so. you'll get stock look on most of your apps, can even decide if bigger or smaller.
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th feature we're working on right now is called per-app-layout, you decide if your apps dress in mobile or tab dress, all without reboot:
we forked trebuchet from source and optimized it to run in that mode, its the best possible launcher for tablet mode
hacked a whole bunch of apps that normally crash on you or give you problems: market works 100%, keyboard doesnt stretch, gtalk doesnt stretch, etc. in short, this entire rom is made to support you in that mode because we know it gives you hell normally. in that its very different from tablet mode roms.

Yes the per app dpi is what makes it stand out than just a normal hybrid tablet ui mod. No need to deal with small fonts. No need to select large fonts. So this is not the same as Hydra as some seem to think.

molesarecoming said:
just need two things
1. cyanogenmod or any stable aosp rom. aokp does not test their tab related code and you get a whole bunch of broken things that come with it, its not a good base for paranoidandroid. cm works out of the box.
2. a dev whos willing to port paranoidandroid and help us making the hybrid features better.
as far as i can tell its plain tablet mode. paranoid is hybrid mode. we do drop systemUI into tabmode, but do our best to not trash your device by doing so. you'll get stock look on most of your apps, can even decide if bigger or smaller.
th feature we're working on right now is called per-app-layout, you decide if your apps dress in mobile or tab dress, all without reboot:
we forked trebuchet from source and optimized it to run in that mode, its the best possible launcher for tablet mode
hacked a whole bunch of apps that normally crash on you or give you problems: market works 100%, keyboard doesnt stretch, gtalk doesnt stretch, etc. in short, this entire rom is made to support you in that mode because we know it gives you hell normally. in that its very different from tablet mode roms.
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Awesome! Thanks for the better explanation of this great ROm. I am not that great with coding so I was kinda lost while reading. I would appreciate any work from any devs on this and thank you for this awesome Rom.

<<<--- wishes he wasn't such an r-tard and could contribute something to this project lol
molesarecoming said:
2. a dev whos willing to port paranoidandroid and help us making the hybrid features better.
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Paranoid Android and ICSorcery are what my girl runs on her Verizon Ynez. They are simply beautiful works. I worry how they would work on the e4gt without kernel source, though.

I've ported this before everything worked except for the keyboard. I know that I'm cooking up something tonight with a fresh start. I'm pretty sure I can get the keyboard to work this time.

Iandv said:
I've ported this before everything worked except for the keyboard. I know that I'm cooking up something tonight with a fresh start. I'm pretty sure I can get the keyboard to work this time.
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That would be great. I am down if you need testers.

Iandv said:
I've ported this before everything worked except for the keyboard. I know that I'm cooking up something tonight with a fresh start. I'm pretty sure I can get the keyboard to work this time.
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Great news. I love the the look of tablet mod but can't seem to settle in with the current roms that include tablet mod.
This one looks like it might be the one to win me over.
Good luck and thanks for making things possible.
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[ROM][30 June] Jellybean for the One X [Nexus Port] [JB 4.1]

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Banner thanks to Sebianoti​I've just noticed that this has made the XDA portal. It's been up on quite a few websites today that I've noticed, and I just wanted to say a big thank you to all the writers who have helped spread the word. If you are one of them, you're awesome!
This is a port of Jellybean, based off of the roms for the two nexus devices that were released yesterday. I'm working to add in all of the key features at the moment, and it's going pretty well, so you can probably expect to see some kind of Alpha release fairly soon.
It's based off the porting work done for CM9 for our phone in the topic here, with some help from randomblame in the #cyanogenmod-dev channel. (Thanks!)
Working
Core system with little to no crashes
Not working
Wifi
Radio
Audio
Camera
Ironically, the issue we've been trying to resolve with CM9 for this phone, the rotation bug, appears to be fixed here. Not sure whether to laugh or cry
Images
http://i.imgur.com/CgWMF.png
http://i.imgur.com/DLd2U.png
http://i.imgur.com/eQRbc.png
http://i.imgur.com/htOEO.png
http://i.imgur.com/ewQrl.png
http://i.imgur.com/y4R30.png
Video (Thanks to Vere850211)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whavUiVkYq8
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Remember to flash the boot.img in the zip.
Progress log
Now based off of the Nexus 7 tegra rom. Things are running a lot smoother and with little to no crashes
Wifi firmware loaded, just need to get it talking with netd and we'll have wifi
I have been able to manually configure wpa_supplicant and it successfully scans for networks. The problem now is that the rest of Android seems to be having trouble communicating with wpa_supplicant.
To those PMing me asking about porting info: Don't expect there to be a simple cut and paste way to port. If you have no experience with porting or don't at least have an understanding of how android is structured, then I would advise you to read up before attempting this. I can provide targeted help if you have a specific issue, but I won't port it for you, and please don't be offended if I suggest you go do some reading.
If you still think you can do this, then here's a checklist of the major things you should look at to get it booting:
boot.img - Grab mine or any other jellybean boot.img, and pull the entire init.rc and init.traces.rc, and package it up with a cm9 boot.img
/system/lib/modules + /system/lib/hw - Modules must be brought across from a cm9 rom, and unless your device runs the same chipset as the base you're using (tegra for the n7, omap for the gn), you'll probably need to put all of the hw libs into there too
/system/etc/firmware + /system/vendor - You'll most probably need to pull both of these dirs into the rom
/system/lib/egl - You'll want all of the egl libs and egl.conf
Various /system/etc files - There's usually some configs, firmware, and other stuff in here
/system/lib - There's tons of files in here, a lot of which you'll need to bring over, and a lot of which you'll need to leave alone. Best advice I can give you is to find an open source cm9 tree for your device and check the proprietary-files.txt file
That's it. By now you should at least have it showing the boot animation. Now it's up to you and your debugging tools. strace is invaluable if you have a specific binary that doesn't want to load, it'll show you all of the system calls it makes and the errno if one gets set. Read through the logcat carefully and it'll probably tell you if you're missing any libraries or other files. Good luck.

Nice work so far! Can the 4.1 apps be ported back to 4.0.4?
This way we can use the new apps like the launcher and what not without using 4.1?

Holy S..t! That was fast .... Awesome work mate

can you take a screenshot on the multi-language keyboard please?
they said they have changed the way to switch between languages
thanks

i ported galaxy nexus dump
only bt, hw accel, sensors works for now.
need nexus7 system dump for fix others crap

thanks
wow that was fast! great work!

Woah, fast work there buddy, btw there is a proper stable Jellybean for Galaxy Nexus released now, would that help?

Sebianoti said:
Woah, fast work there buddy, btw there is a proper stable Jellybean for Galaxy Nexus released now, would that help?
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It would, see mdeejay's post above, but like I said in the first post my interest basically stops here, I'm not really looking to maintain this rom.

tgascoigne said:
It would, see mdeejay's post above, but like I said in the first post my interest basically stops here, I'm not really looking to maintain this rom.
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Understandable, no point continuing tbh until source is out

Sebianoti said:
Understandable, no point continuing tbh until source is out
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Exactly, when the source is out we can have fully working builds rather than ugly cooked up things, and I'm willing to live with ICS until then.

I don't get it... there is no Blackscreen while roating bug...
Overall nice to see!
I also worked on that the whole night got it nearly bootet up, my ramdisk was fine, the bins of my sdk may where broken...

the|gamer said:
I don't get it... there is no Blackscreen while roating bug...
Overall nice to see!
I also worked on that the whole night got it nearly bootet up, my ramdisk was fine, the bins of my sdk may where broken...
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Haha, you're right, there is no rotating bug! As I said, I probably couldn't have done it without help from the other SDK port that was done for another phone, if I'd known you were working on it too we could have worked together and had it done faster.

System dump here apparently
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ystem-dump-is-out-modders-start-your-engines/
Is that what you guys need or am I reading wrong?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

The only System dump that is really helpful is the one for the Nexus 7 cause that is an Tegra 3 driven Device!
What we really want is the AOSP Sourcecode so we can build up a nice and clean build!

Ahh fair enough mate
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

the|gamer said:
The only System dump that is really helpful is the one for the Nexus 7 cause that is an Tegra 3 driven Device!
What we really want is the AOSP Sourcecode so we can build up a nice and clean build!
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The 3.0 tegra kernel for the Nexus 7 is already in the AOSP repos as part of their legal obligation. The kernel is GPL licensed and the device was released today.

tgascoigne said:
The 3.0 tegra kernel for the Nexus 7 is already in the AOSP repos as part of their legal obligation. The kernel is GPL licensed and the device was released today.
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So nvidia have released the source code for Tegra 3?
Cause i was reading a few weeks ago they had no intentions to do so, because it might release some code that's currently used as leverage against the competition.

Atrixx said:
So nvidia have released the source code for Tegra 3?
Cause i was reading a few weeks ago they had no intentions to do so, because it might release some code that's currently used as leverage against the competition.
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Check out the kernel/tegra repo on aosp, theres a 3.1 (I believe) kernel source in there. Not sure on nvidia's stance.

Hmm... well there are some https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/tegra.git but they are from 15th of June...
I am checking them out and will look for a "nasaki" config file

good job .. great work! :cyclops:

Boycotting Google.....

Ok, first off, no silly replies please. You can laugh but don't talk like a dumbass.
So here goes.... *deep breath*.......
Is there an alternative to Android (Google) that i can run on my HTC one x. I'm boycotting Google for the way they have handled the offensive video as of late on youtube.
To be frank, google dominates my life, contacts, gmail, photo's, chrome but i now want to boycott them. I know it'll be hard but i can try....
So, alternative OS to google which my one x can run?? Or do i need to buy an iphone
Mods, feel free to move this as appropriate.

What are you talking about......
And no is the answer

lol
somehow i'm not sure they will notice
anyways its your life, your choice..
windows phone, iphone, and blackberry, samsung bada, i think there's more, but none really are quite the same as android, imo you will be taking a big step backwards if you do choose to not use it.
only problem, is that your not really gonna be successful in finding one of those os's for the one x. somebody would have to make it, the same way as a custom rom, and the processor architecture could be different, and not supported by os etc etc, its a big mess and very very unlikely to ever happen - the old windows mobile phones got android, purely because winmo was complete crap, and android would have been considered an upgrade, the other os's; they would be considered by most as a downgrade, hence not bothering to do it

I'm guessing the OP is on about this video which Muslims are finding offensive
But to answer your question, no. You can't run anything other than Android on the One X at this time

CyanogenMod uses all the open source code from Android and makes the Google apps installation optional. If you boycott Google and don't want to know from them, you can use it if it's available on your 1X. The browser allows you to choose your search provided, right?

my apologies.. just could not resist

There is no non-Android OS for the HOX. You could however remove most if not all Google services from your phone. Root, and then install an AOKP or CM ROM, don't install the GApps. It might be useful to use Droidwall to block connections to specific Google servers as well. There will still be some things to do like making sure location services stay off, and you'll face some challenges, but you could cut the cord.
You'd need to sideload apps (no Play Store). Use something like Funambol for calendar/contacts/mail. Use Opera or Firefox browser and set default search engines to not be Google.
I can't decide if this would end up really sucky or really just the same!

Just go buy another phone. U cant please everybody in the world so boycotting google just because of this video is childish. They have offensive material to me posted on YouTube like videos glorifying the IRA but I won't boycott them because of it. So I suggest u either buy a new phone or quit ur b##chin
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That's a bit uncalled for as this is a religious issue, not paranoia

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That's a bit uncalled for as this is a religious issue, not paranoia
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hehe sorry i just could not resist...i edited my post but on a serious note actually you can run another OS....problem is someone that can actually port it to the one x...Firefox OS..or mozilla think its called Gecko OS something like that...or as someone above said run JB without the Gapps

patp said:
There is no non-Android OS for the HOX. You could however remove most if not all Google services from your phone. Root, and then install an AOKP or CM ROM, don't install the GApps. It might be useful to use Droidwall to block connections to specific Google servers as well. There will still be some things to do like making sure location services stay off, and you'll face some challenges, but you could cut the cord.
You'd need to sideload apps (no Play Store). Use something like Funambol for calendar/contacts/mail. Use Opera or Firefox browser and set default search engines to not be Google.
I can't decide if this would end up really sucky or really just the same!
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it's still running Google Android though?

Thanks guys, what a tremoundous and positive response! :fingers-crossed:
looks like CM to me.... even though they utilize majority of android.
But wasn't android made possible by Linux??
@ Goku - really dissapointed man. You're like one of the flag ship xda members. Meh

Boycott Google?
Good luck with that, what your after is an iphone - but guess what, all videos will still be on YouTube (aka gootube )
Anyway, what's the big fuss - I liked the video, reminded me of Harry Potter because of the old wizard.
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Genkville said:
@ Goku - really dissapointed man. You're like one of the flag ship xda members. Meh
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my bad my friend i apologize.....

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[Q] Shpongle ROM sources

dear 1ceb0x
first of all i want to thank you very much for creating your great rom.
after installing it, it was the first time i had a responsive smartphone.
as we all know, android is open source and as the Apache License states, derived work must be open source, too.
so will you provide a source code repository or (at least) a downloadable zip of your rom sources somewhere?
this is less about obeying the rules, i'm just frightened, something might happen to you so you can't continue working on the rom and all your work would be lost...

he built it from source as in built from scratch

well - sure he built it from source - from HIS sources
this isn't AOSP vanilla, it's a modified version of the android source, so those sources must be republished

>>??
u can use the rom as base just as long he provides permission to do so

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u can use the rom as base just as long he provides permission to do so
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sorry, don't want to be offensive, but this is nonsense.
there's nothing to need permission for.
as long as it's an android rom (which it really seems to be), it is work derived from AOSP and there the license clearly points out what I stated.
(see http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html)
and even if it wasn't - this doesn't answer my concerns regarding him not being able (or wanting) to continue development.

wait for 1ce's reply as i dont get what you're sayin (sorry ) :angel::angel:
as for dev. he will sell his v so i think that's the reason he cant continue
:highfive:

when the time comes i will provide my sources. in the meantime, shpongle is yet to see some new updates.

1ceb0x said:
when the time comes i will provide my sources. in the meantime, shpongle is yet to see some new updates.
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Great to hear this... waiting for update eagerly as i need to give away this after flashing your final rom.
BTW i got my white nexus 4. Hope to see you soon there too...

@rolandkohn don't get me wrong but it's 1ce's decision. He is not forced to release anything because shpongle is a personal project. 1ce built it for himself and was kind enough to share it for free. If he pleases he can also remove the download links and you can't do anything about it. Hence the best approach will be to kindly ask him for source code and not talk about licensing or trying to force his hand. You can take the licensing part with HTC if you want to fight that battle.

ok guys just drop the topic b4 it gets ugly

i first wanted to write this as a personal message, but in the end (as a software developer myelf who wants his licensing terms be cared about), i think this is something important enough for everyone on xda to think about:
please - everyone here - don't get ME wrong...
it's absolutely not that i woud want to force anyone to do something.
as you can see in my first post i was just asking if he would release the source, as i was worried about the future of the project because he's getting a new phone.
for that part, this thread is answered to me. i'm fine with it, no need for further discussion!
now about the licensing part and - as it seems to me, some general misunderstandings here on XDA:
sorry, but you're so wrong. he definitely IS forced to release its source. the apache license (which applies to android) states so. those licenses aren't only about comercial projects, they are about using the original source and doing something with it - You can imagine it as a contract between google and the developer, google gives the sources out for free, but want the terms to be followed in return.
Everyone who is involved into development (and if it's even just using the rom) can be happy, that google is offering android (the open source parts) for free under the apache license. google invested quite some man hours (and money) into android and they've been so kind to let it be open source. anyhow this (the apache license) states that any modification to the source must be made public for everyone (in special the original license holder) to see the changes, to learn from them and to make things in their projects better. if any develper doesn't accept the licensing terms, you don't need to use the sources to do something with them.
btw - it's not my fault that some smartphone manufacturers (e.g. as mentioned htc) don't care about this.

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@rolandkohn I can understand that you are afraid that shpongle development might be over since 1ce has bought a new device and that you or anyone else would like to get 1ce sources to continue the development. My reply was about your tone. It would have been better if you asked nicely, instead of being (kind of) rude.
PS: are you sure that the licensing applies to all the projects? For example I am playing with CM sources and I'm building a ROM for personal use. Am I forced to make those sources public? I don't think so.

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It would have been better if you asked nicely, instead of being (kind of) rude.
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uh - did it sound rude to you? I'm really sorry then. It absolutely wasn't ment anyhow offensive and I'd like to excuse for this.
nepotu said:
PS: are you sure that the licensing applies to all the projects? For example I am playing with CM sources and I'm building a ROM for personal use. Am I forced to make those sources public? I don't think so.
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well - another very big excuse from my side.
i did quite some reading meanwhile and i have to admit - seems i was wrong.
please - everyone excuse me for my aggressive behavior, it seems i somehow mixed GPL/AL. :angel:
as i've read now, you're indeed allowed to even create proprietary work - so software you charge people for - out of AL licensed code.
this means that even HTC & such are fine with not releasing their sources, as long as it's not about GPL licensed stuff (e.g. the kernel).

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