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Forgot my phone in the sun

Hey guys, I forgot my new sexy white Gnex in the sun a few days ago. It got so hot that I could barely hold it in my hands I'd like to know what damage could there be from this overheating? As far as I know, heat kills lithium batteries really bad. But what else should I check?
This is the battery life I get since this happened ( no data active, just occasional small sessions of wifi browsing, and brightness set to 25%, with stock 1750 mAh battery) :
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Should I get worried or buy a new battery? Thanks in advance guys!

bgdxv said:
Hey guys, I forgot my new sexy white Gnex in the sun a few days ago. It got so hot that I could barely hold it in my hands I'd like to know what damage could there be from this overheating? As far as I know, heat kills lithium batteries really bad. But what else should I check?
This is the battery life I get since this happened ( no data active, just occasional small sessions of wifi browsing, and brightness set to 25%) :
Should I get worried or buy a new battery? Thanks in advance guys!
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4 and a half hours of screen time ... o.o... do you even need to worry? ... lol

Hinouchi said:
4 and a half hours of screen time ... o.o... do you even need to worry? ... lol
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well the thing is that I saw people around here getting similar with data active. And I get that with no data connection. Or maybe I don't recall correctly :silly:

bgdxv said:
well the thing is that I saw people around here getting similar with data active. And I get that with no data connection. Or maybe I don't recall correctly :silly:
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Depends what they're doing with their phone too right? I saw someone pull a 6 hours screen time just reading pdf file? I'll see if I can pull 4 hours with mine ~XD stock battery here btw

Nah man I can get 5 hours on mine over WiFi... and yours is 1750mah? Mines 1850. I wouldnt worry man. Your all good.
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I can't even get close to 4 hours with my stock battery GSM phone. I Max out at like 3 hours.
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Nice trolling OP, I only get 2 hours screen time in like 6-8 hours, what are u worrying about
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subxero123 said:
Nice trolling OP, I only get 2 hours screen time in like 6-8 hours, what are u worrying about
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Your phone is defective, you have a rogue app, or some other problem.
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subxero123 said:
Nice trolling OP, I only get 2 hours screen time in like 6-8 hours, what are u worrying about
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Same.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Your phone is defective, you have a rogue app, or some other problem.
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Not necessarily. I get 2.5 hours screen on on 4g when I'm avidly checking my phone, syncing my social networks and what have you.
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ÜBER™ said:
Nah man I can get 5 hours on mine over WiFi... and yours is 1750mah? Mines 1850. I wouldnt worry man. Your all good.
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Wow 5 hours? Is that with stand by time or continuous usage?

bgdxv said:
Wow 5 hours? Is that with stand by time or continuous usage?
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Both. I can usually consistently get around 12-15 hours overall on Wi-Fi and around 5 hours and 15 minutes of screen on. Thats as far as i can push it with normal use like browsing on tapatalk. Browsing the webs... Google+ and Youtube normal "smartphone" activities. I dont have anything syncing i refresh things my self... and am normally on my laptop anyways. But on my Crappy Sprint 3G i only get around 2 or 3 hours with the same overall time.

wyattyoss said:
Not necessarily. I get 2.5 hours screen on on 4g when I'm avidly checking my phone, syncing my social networks and what have you.
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Could be that the CDMA ones have battery problems (since you mentioned 4G).
I forget those heathens are part of this forum too.
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I get these weird sudden drops of battery. Below 25 % it goes down to 0% in about 40 minutes of screen on time. When the battery is above 25%, it goes down by about 20% in one hour of screen on time. So the difference is big Anyone else is having faster drain below 25% or is my battery broken?

Hinouchi said:
4 and a half hours of screen time ... o.o... do you even need to worry? ... lol
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Why did you quote the entire OP in your post? It's pretty obvious who you were replying to, it was the second post!!!!

Reading over this thread, all the individual posts only present one combined set of what I consider the bare minimum info to have a battery life report be intelligible:
-Capacity of the battery (this is the one it seems like nobody ever mentions, props to ÜBER™)
-Total time
-Screen on time
Without all three of those as the foundation I don't think that any of the other info people like to quote can actually be understood. Qualifiers like "mostly on wifi/all on 4g/[screenshot of stats]" are still important for further context, but they stand on those three to mean anything.
A sample of my reactions to posts missing one of these, and what I've come to just assume about them:
-Oh your phone lasted twice as long as mine? Great, you've probably got a battery that's double the capacity.
-Your screen on time is incredible? Oh but you have the exact same screen on:total time ratio as everyone else, just dragged to one extreme.
-You think something's wrong with your phone because you don't get as good battery life as everyone you see posting on XDA? Oh but it turns out that you unplug it and don't put it down until it's dead.
Pissing contests are still contests, gotta follow the rules people!
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bgdxv said:
I get these weird sudden drops of battery. Below 25 % it goes down to 0% in about 40 minutes of screen on time. When the battery is above 25%, it goes down by about 20% in one hour of screen on time. So the difference is big Anyone else is having faster drain below 25% or is my battery broken?
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When you said this was with no data active, does that mean data is actually disabled, or just that you're not using it?
Just looking at your screenshots and comparing the slope of different parts of the graph, nothing looks too out of the ordinary. Your one stretch of inactivity is nice and level. Your periods of sustained use all seem to drop at a comparable rate.
If you're concerned that the battery is erratic, try putting it in airplane mode (not just disabled data) and seeing if it doesn't just flatlane. This should reduce pretty much any interference in your data (unless you can see that a rogue app keeps the phone awake the entire time, but that'd be obvious if it happened). Obviously the catch being that it would probably take weeks to get a full picture, so try just draining it down to a low state and flipping it into airplane mode before you go to sleep. Flatline for the night= put the issue to rest. Highly variable graph=get a new battery and put the issue to rest.
But from what you've written, nothing looks out of the ordinary about your data to me. Sounds like you're not actually firm in the belief that anything is very different, just concerned that you broke something and looking too hard to find things that aren't there.

JoeSyr said:
Reading over this thread, all the individual posts only present one combined set of what I consider the bare minimum info to have a battery life report be intelligible:
-Capacity of the battery (this is the one it seems like nobody ever mentions, props to ÜBER™)
-Total time
-Screen on time
Without all three of those as the foundation I don't think that any of the other info people like to quote can actually be understood. Qualifiers like "mostly on wifi/all on 4g/[screenshot of stats]" are still important for further context, but they stand on those three to mean anything.
A sample of my reactions to posts missing one of these, and what I've come to just assume about them:
-Oh your phone lasted twice as long as mine? Great, you've probably got a battery that's double the capacity.
-Your screen on time is incredible? Oh but you have the exact same screen on:total time ratio as everyone else, just dragged to one extreme.
-You think something's wrong with your phone because you don't get as good battery life as everyone you see posting on XDA? Oh but it turns out that you unplug it and don't put it down until it's dead.
Pissing contests are still contests, gotta follow the rules people!
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When you said this was with no data active, does that mean data is actually disabled, or just that you're not using it?
Just looking at your screenshots and comparing the slope of different parts of the graph, nothing looks too out of the ordinary. Your one stretch of inactivity is nice and level. Your periods of sustained use all seem to drop at a comparable rate.
If you're concerned that the battery is erratic, try putting it in airplane mode (not just disabled data) and seeing if it doesn't just flatlane. This should reduce pretty much any interference in your data (unless you can see that a rogue app keeps the phone awake the entire time, but that'd be obvious if it happened). Obviously the catch being that it would probably take weeks to get a full picture, so try just draining it down to a low state and flipping it into airplane mode before you go to sleep. Flatline for the night= put the issue to rest. Highly variable graph=get a new battery and put the issue to rest.
But from what you've written, nothing looks out of the ordinary about your data to me. Sounds like you're not actually firm in the belief that anything is very different, just concerned that you broke something and looking too hard to find things that aren't there.
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That sounds like a good plan. Thank you. Also, I should add that i use the stock 1750 mAh battery. Added that info to the OP also.
What I meant by no data active is that data connection is disabled in the settings

subxero123 said:
Nice trolling OP, I only get 2 hours screen time in like 6-8 hours, what are u worrying about
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Same
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fredryk said:
Why did you quote the entire OP in your post? It's pretty obvious who you were replying to, it was the second post!!!!
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[Q] 5 Features that takes One X ahead of S3

I was looking to purchase the HTC One X, I love HTC Sense and I want to know which specific feature takes One X ahead of Samsung Galaxy S3. I am really concerned about it's battery life since it is non removable and only 1800 Mah. I also want to know can we change the notification led light color using a software. Please let me decide which way to go you can list the features below and those using it can give me results.

skhan33 said:
I was looking to purchase the HTC One X, I love HTC Sense and I want to know which specific feature takes One X ahead of Samsung Galaxy S3. I am really concerned about it's battery life since it is non removable and only 1800 Mah. I also want to know can we change the notification led light color using a software. Please let me decide which way to go you can list the features below and those using it can give me results.
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Led only supports red or green. Battery most people get about 2 to 3 hours screen on time with about 18 hours on battery.
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1. HoX is a beautiful phone, S3 just.. isn't.
2. HoX has the better camera app, in my opinion better camera too.
3. Better devs!
4. Tegra 3, mindblowing games
5. Amazing screen, looks just amazing

will444 said:
1. HoX is a beautiful phone, S3 just.. isn't.
2. HoX has the better camera app, in my opinion better camera too.
3. Better devs!
4. Tegra 3, mindblowing games
5. Amazing screen, looks just amazing
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Fully agree with You :victory:

I have and use them both. Here are my views.
1. S3 has the better camera. Just takes much better pics, less noise. A lot better low light pictures too.
2. With a good ROM, the One X battery life can approach 5 hours of on screen time. That's about the same, but not quite as good as the GS3.
3. The One X screen definitely has a better screen.
4. As far as developers go? The same for both really. Rooting is much easier with the GS3 because of the unlocked bootloaders.
5. The build quality of the One X is much better than the GS3.
I use my One X 75% of the time.

Baldilocks said:
I have and use them both. Here are my views.
1. S3 has the better camera. Just takes much better pics, less noise. A lot better low light pictures too.
2. With a good ROM, the One X battery life can approach 5 hours of on screen time. That's about the same, but not quite as good as the GS3.
3. The One X screen definitely has a better screen.
4. As far as developers go? The same for both really. Rooting is much easier with the GS3 because of the unlocked bootloaders.
5. The build quality of the One X is much better than the GS3.
I use my One X 75% of the time.
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http://m.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/
S3 is worse in low light from these tests.
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treebill said:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/
S3 is worse in low light from these tests.
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Not in my real life tests. The flash on the GS3 is about 3 times brighter.
In daylight, it's a close match. Still the One X pictures are noisier.

Baldilocks said:
Not in my real life tests. The flash on the GS3 is about 3 times brighter.
In daylight, it's a close match. Still the One X pictures are noisier.
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I'll take a f2.0 aperture with a wide angle lens - 99 burst mode, proximity multi stage flash and its faster image processing chip over the S3 any day!
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1. HTC One X has the best screen of any mobile phone as of yet, hands down. This is what made me buy the HOX over the S3.
2. The home button of the HOX is non-physical (this is a pro for me, since I broke my home button on my iPhone 4 and it was so annoying)
If battery life is a super high concern for you, then I suggest you take the S3. The One X's battery if using the correct rom/kernel combination can reach 5 hours SCREEN ON time, and with normal use that can last you about 2 days without charging.
Basically, you should have no problems with the HOX if you plan to charge it every day anyway just like any smartphone If you travel a lot and don't frequently have access to a charger however, then just go with the S3.

Gammarax said:
1. HTC One X has the best screen of any mobile phone as of yet, hands down. This is what made me buy the HOX over the S3.
2. The home button of the HOX is non-physical (this is a pro for me, since I broke my home button on my iPhone 4 and it was so annoying)
If battery life is a super high concern for you, then I suggest you take the S3. The One X's battery if using the correct rom/kernel combination can reach 5 hours SCREEN ON time, and with normal use that can last you about 2 days without charging.
Basically, you should have no problems with the HOX if you plan to charge it every day anyway just like any smartphone If you travel a lot and don't frequently have access to a charger however, then just go with the S3.
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Battery, really?
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Also, these tests were performed on a much older OS running 4.0.3 on the HTC ONE X whilst 4.0.4 was tested on the S3.
We all know 4.0.4 with sense 4.1 improved the battery even further.....
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chrisjcks said:
I'll take a f2.0 aperture with a wide angle lens - 99 burst mode, proximity multi stage flash and its faster image processing chip over the S3 any day!
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And you will still get worse pictures with the One X. That's just the way it is.
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Battery, really?
Also, these tests were performed on a much older OS running 4.0.3 on the HTC ONE X whilst 4.0.4 was tested on the S3.
We all know 4.0.4 with sense 4.1 improved the battery even further.....
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You like to quote 'studies'. Real life is where it's at. I get nearly 7 hours of on screen time with my GS3, compared to almost 5 hours with my One X.
Real world is where it's at. Not tech sites and magazines.

Baldilocks said:
And you will still get worse pictures with the One X. That's just the way it is.
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You like to quote 'studies'. Real life is where it's at. I get nearly 7 hours of on screen time with my GS3, compared to almost 5 hours with my One X.
Real world is where it's at. Not tech sites and magazines.
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Well, in the real world I can get over 13hrs screen on time if I'm only reading - S3 wouldn't get close to this.
In the real world, the brightness on the s3 is 60+% less compared to the HOX - not better battery, just crap brightness to increase battery results.
In the real world, you can't see your s3 screen outside.
In the real world, the HOX will be 'significantly' higher battery when being used purely as a phone as the battery idle core gets used.
And about the pictures - your implying that HOX users must be professional photographers, as the HOX picture thread shows much better photos than over in the s3 forum.
Even with the s3 trying to copy HOX camera features with the photo/video - can the s3 even take pictures from already recorded videos? - its burst mode is slower & limited to 20, it doesn't have a wide angle lens, it doesn't have the multi stage automatic flash, & the s3 is only a f2.6 I think.
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^ Yeah, my B.S. meter went off with your 13 hours of screen time while reading.... that just makes the rest of your post B.S. too.
I have both phones. I have used them for a long while together now. Each have their pluses. I prefer the One X. But, there are a few facts that you just can't get around.
1. Battery life goes to the GS3.
2. Camera goes to the GS3.
3. Build quality goes to the One X.
4. Screen goes to the One X. (And this has nothing to do with sunlight legibility, because honestly they both suck at this.)

1) Subjective, but I prefer Sense. Better contact management and social network integration. However Touchwiz has better video code support and better optimised.
2) Subjective, better screen, I prefer the SLCD2 compared to AMOLED. Whiter whites, more closer to natural colours, full RGB, nice and bright. However AMOLED has better blacks.
3) Camera, takes some good shots when set up manually forget auto choose your own settings. Camera app is also better however SGS3 takes better video.
4) Subjective, design and looks. Love the build of the HOX and the matte finish. Looks lively that's not to say the SGS3 looks or feels bad.
5) Tegra, nor as powerful as Exynos but better suited for gaming. Tegra games play and look better.
I've had both phones. Battery life is easily better on the SGS3 for screen on time but the HOX idles well and can last a while. But this is dependent on signal, what's syncing and such.
Other little things I prefer on the HOX the mail app is better, Sense widgets are good, devs are good.
Both are good phones choose whichever you'll be happy with either.
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Baldilocks said:
^ Yeah, my B.S. meter went off with your 13 hours of screen time while reading.... that just makes the rest of your post B.S. too.
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Set brightness to lowest..... give it a go, use the kindle app.
I've done it myself, over 13hrs.
I know someone else has done it similar with PDF's & got 12
SGS3 couldn't get even close to this.
So, whilst your sooo quick to scream BS - give it a go, or STFU.
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chrisjcks said:
Set brightness to lowest..... give it a go, use the kindle app.
I've done it myself, over 13hrs.
I know someone else has done it similar with PDF's & got 12
SGS3 couldn't get even close to this.
So, whilst your sooo quick to scream BS - give it a go, or STFU.
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You can also force the phone to use only the power save core, me and meltus did testing and got stupid battery life, if your only using it to text and talk that's the way to go.
Either way, even if the phone were the same in every detail but shell and GUI I'd bit one x and sense any day.
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chrisjcks said:
Set brightness to lowest..... give it a go, use the kindle app.
I've done it myself, over 13hrs.
I know someone else has done it similar with PDF's & got 12
SGS3 couldn't get even close to this.
So, whilst your sooo quick to scream BS - give it a go, or STFU.
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And why would I want to do something stupid like that? Just saying. I like to actually keep my screens at least 50% brightness.
Maybe you should have just bought a Kindle....

Baldilocks said:
And why would I want to do something stupid like that? Just saying. I like to actually keep my screens at least 50% brightness.
Maybe you should have just bought a Kindle....
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I have a few kindles, but I always have my phone with me & this isn't always possible with my kindles.
As for keeping the brightness at 50% - you do realise that the HOX is 60+% brighter than the S3?
HTC could easily send out the next update setting the brightness at the lowest to boost battery comparisons.
Maybe put your S3 on max brightness whilst having your HOX on 50% then you will see which has the better battery. (also not cheating by making everything on your S3 black)
Anandtech tests show just how badly the s3 can perform, it was even beaten on just talk time.
Having a dull screen to boost battery is a complete cover-up from Samsung.
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Please stop complaining about the battery!

Hey guys,
I have read so many topic that people complain about HOX battery, so funny!
Please understand that the phone and the battery is same as the care and the fuel tank.
Your car have 20l tank and with full tank, you could run about 200km. Some one could run longer, some one could run shorter but only around 200km. Depends on how you drive, you could run more or less.
You want to feel the power of your car and want to happy with high speed, you should do more acceleration. And of course, your car use more fuel and you run a shorter distance. If you drive your car in very economic way, keep stable acceleration in stable speed, you could run longer distance.
Simple, the phone is exactly like that.
More powerful function, less usage time. Turn every thing off and take your HOX as decoration thing to show to your friend, ha ha, you will have 3 or 4 days of use, even more.
So, please stop complaining about the battery usage. You want supper 3D game, very smooth video, very fast internet, beautiful camera, all tools in your hand... you should not ask to have long time usage. If you want longer, buy other phone (like you buy another car with bigger fuel tank).

Yeah, that analogy works perfectly, the first thing I look at on a car is fuel tank capacity. :screwy:

I agree totally.. I'm forever banging my head on a brick wall with this. If technology is part of your life then invest in it properly.. I have a range of battery extension methods and can / do regularly go a week or more without mains.. but on the other hand when I'm in the office and hammering 3d hd games I know I will be plugged in all day..
I also have another phone.. battery lasts for a week or so without any top up.. but I wouldn't even try and get on social networks with it..let alone try and play the silly 32 colour games.
If battery life matters either invest in the kit so you can charge away from mains or buy a dumb phone.
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The problem with battery is why it runs out so quickly for no reason, I have only watched 3 mins of YouTube on my phone and yet I am on 36%
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It is not our fault. HTC should have used their brains. 1800mah battery on a quad core beast! Seriously! What on earth were they thinking. I have a feeling 2013 is not going to be a good year for HTC.

I agree with the OPs car and fuel tank capacity analogy and it makes good sense, but tell me, isn't it the responsibility of the car maker to put an adequately sized fuel tank in the car, taking into account all factors like space available in the design, size of the car and its mileage? Isn't it completely stupid and careless on the maker's part to make a huge car with a powerful engine, and put in a fuel tank with the same capacity as in a car that's half it's size with an engine that's half as powerful? How does the maker ensure that the car lasts for a long journey without requiring stops at the gas station every few hours? Everyone knows how irritating that can be, so why should it be any different with phones? You'd at least expect the expensive phone you buy to last for a day with moderate use. No one's asking for two days too. Just a day with moderate use is enough. But that's not the case. The One X, if unplugged early in the morning, lasts till evening at best with normal outdoor usage (take outdoor heat into account too) and requires charging. Even with all the battery saving tips like underclocking and the whole routine. All batteries degrade over time, but if the battery is of minimal capacity from the start, and then degrades, and is non-removable on top of it all, then we have a problem. It's just careless to design a phone this way.
omondisingh said:
It is not our fault. HTC should have used their brains. 1800mah battery on a quad core beast! Seriously! What on earth were they thinking. I have a feeling 2013 is not going to be a good year for HTC.
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I agree that they should have used more common sense. Their ideal lab tests and battery life results don't match up to real world usage. Look at the Droid DNA. 2100 mAh. That's ridiculous. I don't fault them for making the battery non-removable, because the design of One X requires it and it looks nice. But they could have fit a bigger battery in the phone even if it means increasing the thickness by 1-2 mm. One X battery life is horrendous, and the worst part is you can't just swap in a new battery if it runs out, unlike the Galaxy S3. The Droid DNA/DLX/M7 is going to suck just as much as the One X at battery life because even though it has a bigger battery, the hardware is that much more power hungry. Honestly it seems like the only manufacturer who really knows how to make excellent quality phones with good design (may not be the best, but very good) and great battery life is Motorola. Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising Motorola. Far from it. They have really ****ty policies towards development communities. But they really make well built, well designed phones with adequate or more than adequate batteries. I'm not just talking about the RAZR Maxx. While that IS an exceptional example, a lot of their phones have great batteries. If Motorola could put such a huge battery in the RAZR Maxx without compromising on the design (it's just slightly thicker and heavier than the RAZR), then there's no reason and no excuse for HTC not to. Samsung also used common sense with the Galaxy S3 by including a 2100 mAh removable battery. HTC's characteristic flaw in the past 2 years has been to put ****ty, tiny batteries in all their phones and claim it's due to design constraints. Every HTC phone has a much smaller battery than an equivalent phone by other manufacturers. Another HTC problem is to include include very low intern memory even to their flagship devices. Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC Desire HD etc. It's their fault they put in such low system memory, and then they don't update their phones because they say the internal memory isn't enough for the new version. Ridiculous. Not to mention their unwillingness to update perfectly capable phones to newer versions. What's with the One V not receiving Jelly Bean while the One X and One S do? It was launched alongside them, and never got even one official version upgrade. Whatever happened to the Open Handset Alliance and Google guidelines for Android updates?
I like HTC, I like their designs, their build quality, and the usability and general feel of their phones. But they're being a crappy company in their policies relating to updates and full unlocking of bootloaders, no doubt about that, and they're also being dumb by not included adequate batteries and enough system memory. Some would say that the low system memory is a deliberate move on their part to avoid updating older phones. Anyway, I'm happy to see that with newer devices like the One series, they're being sensible in this regard and partition memory isn't really an issue anymore. But seriously HTC, stop trying to suck so much. There's a reason Motorola isn't all popular and significant anymore, although they make nice phones like you. Get rid of your ridiculous policies and give us once more a killer, truly open phone like the HD2. The amount on development that is still happening with that phone is insane.
Rant done.
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snipervn said:
Hey guys,
Your car have 20l tank and with full tank, you could run about 200km. Some one could run longer, some one could run shorter but only around 200km. Depends on how you drive, you could run more or less.
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Exactly, the one-x has like a 20l fuel tank, thats the capacity of a motorcycle!

I don't see why people shouldn't be complaining.
When I first got my One X with ICS I barely used to get 8 hrs with a full charge with wifi on.
Now people come up with all kinds of ridiculous suggestions such as turn your auto sync off, keep your brightness at zero, uninstall facebook, disable maps etc. Why do all this? I might as well have a Nokia N series phone if I were to remove the smart from smartphone. Fortunately JB bought a massive battery improvement to my phone.
It would be a different thing if people were moaning after 14-15 hrs of battery life but with ICS I would struggle to get to even 5 pm on a normal day.
A customer pays a chunk of money to get these phones and if it doesn't even meet normal requirements, one has a right to complain.

Spot on. Also if they managed to fit a 2100 battery one the HOX+ why didn't they use it on the HOX because it fits perfectly. I switched from my Evo 3D. I still have the phone in perfect working order and excellent condition. I may start using it again because I can't stand charging my phone twice a day.
If HTC were clever they should have offered HOX owners a battery upgrade and bet they know the HOX has battery drain issues. I wouldn't mind paying for the upgrade either. Getting the S4 next.
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yash777 said:
Fortunately JB bought a massive battery improvement to my phone.
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I really hope that's true for most people. So far I'm seeing mixed reports about battery life with JB. I'm just waiting on HTC to release JB kernel source so that Faux123 can update his kernel and try porting his intellidemand governor to it. That thing does wonders on the Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3.
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Spot on. Also if they managed to fit a 2100 battery one the HOX+ why didn't they use it on the HOX because it fits perfectly. I switched from my Evo 3D. I still have the phone in perfect working order and excellent condition. I may start using it again because I can't stand charging my phone twice a day.
If HTC were clever they should have offered HOX owners a battery upgrade and bet they know the HOX has battery drain issues. I wouldn't mind paying for the upgrade either. Getting the S4 next.
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Exactly my point! It's just carelessness on their part. They didn't compromise on design with the One X+ at all. It has exactly the same dimensions as One X. There's no excuse for them to have not included that battery from the start. All the One X+ has is an over clocked processor and a bigger battery. They shouldn't even be allowed to release that as a completely new phone, trying to dupe their customers into believing that their phone is better than the One X. It shouldn't even be a new phone. The processor overclock should have come to the One X as a software upgrade if possible, and when HTC finally figured out that they can actually put in a larger, better battery, they should have honestly, like you said, offered a free or minimally paid battery upgrade for all One X users as an apology for screwing up the battery from the start. That's the least they could do as a responsible company. Rather, they release the exact same phone with enhancements that should have been there from the start, heavily promote it because of those essential enhancements, and earn more profit on it. What about the customers who not very long ago spent a lot of money on a phone that they expected to work just as well? Unethical, if you ask me.
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battery life isnt to bad when using custom rom. i get easy a full day from 8am till 11pm and 2 hours screen on time. if i use it all the time i get around 5 or 6 hours screen on.
before custom rom it was half of that..

Is there something wrong with your phones? I have had my One X since start, and haven't had any drainage issues that weren't caused by an app I had installed. Only after hours of heavy gaming or navigation I have had to charge my phone during the day.
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Presterin said:
Is there something wrong with your phones? I have had my One X since start, and haven't had any drainage issues that weren't caused by an app I had installed. Only after hours of heavy gaming or navigation I have had to charge my phone during the day.
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I think its a case of getting lucky. I have seen posts from people who loved battery on ICS but hate it on JB. And vice versa.

regenboognl said:
battery life isnt to bad when using custom rom. i get easy a full day from 8am till 11pm and 2 hours screen on time. if i use it all the time i get around 5 or 6 hours screen on.
before custom rom it was half of that..
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I would have rooted my phone and gone custom but life is easy with S-OFF. I know its not possible at the moment but i'll carry on with stock. Still waiting for the HOX+ batteries to become available then i'll swap it out for my HOX's.

omondisingh said:
I would have rooted my phone and gone custom but life is easy with S-OFF. I know its not possible at the moment but i'll carry on with stock. Still waiting for the HOX+ batteries to become available then i'll swap it out for my HOX's.
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Same^
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If you guys are getting battery life that doesn't go through one day, check wakelocks.

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No complains at all. Made a regular usage. 2h talk day, wifi to browse Facebook, YouTube, email, xda. And some mobile Internet. No gaming this time and my One X > 3days without charge...
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No complains at all. Made a regular usage. 2h talk day, wifi to browse Facebook, YouTube, email, xda. And some mobile Internet. No gaming this time and my One X > 3days without charge...
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Jajajajajaaa you are in your dreams or what man? xD for three days of battery you dont have to touch the phone jajajajajja
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jarein95 said:
Jajajajajaaa you are in your dreams or what man? xD for three days of battery you dont have to touch the phone jajajajajja
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What i said its true man! This days i made a regular use. Used most of the time to talk with a 4h/5h in this 3 days. Im not the type of user that dont touch the phone to get long batery
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jarein95 said:
Jajajajajaaa you are in your dreams or what man? xD for three days of battery you dont have to touch the phone jajajajajja
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It depends. If he turns off data when he doesn't need it then you can easily get such stats.
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So far battery's been meh

Not sure how's everyone's battery stats been with the t-mobile variant of the M8, but compare to other phones I've used recently like the LG G2 and the Sony Xperia Z1s, my battery life's been been unimpressive so far.
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shook187 said:
Not sure how's everyone's battery stats been with the t-mobile variant of the M8, but compare to other phones I've used recently like the LG G2 and the Sony Xperia Z1s, my battery life's been been unimpressive so far.
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examples?
I had mine on for 6 hours straight streaming pandora on high quality. My battery indicator literally did not move <1mm. I thought that was some heavy usage so wondering what you subjected yours to or what you are basing your opinion on.

First of all you need to wait about a week for everything to full settle and get some good charges on your battery. Battery life is always gonna be shotty for the first couple of days.....
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I'm very surprised that my m8 has almost the same battery life than my note 3 and LG g flex the difference is very minimal
So far I feels good battery
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Well I'm not getting that bent out of shape just yet. I just thought I'd throw that out there since my first impression on those other devices were a lot better than this one.
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My battery life seems to be better than on my Note 3. I haven't had a phone that has been better than my Note 2 though. That phones battery life was insane.
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I was very skeptical about the battery when I jumped from the LG G2 as the G2 had amazing battery life. but the M8 is on par if not better in my opinion,,
6:15 hours screen on time and the most I got from the G2 was 5:30
I don't know if it's because the smaller screen or the snapdragon 801 or some software optimisations
This phone Rocksssss
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I've had phenomenal battery life with this phone. I had almost 6 hours screen-on time yesterday and still had around 10% left.
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No complaints here.
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djnicho12 said:
I'm very surprised that my m8 has almost the same battery life than my note 3 and LG g flex the difference is very minimal
So far I feels good battery
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Really... Surprised the M8 battery life is even close to the Flex battery life since the Flex has a 3500mAh compared to 2600mAh. Can you make it 24 hrs with heavy use with M8.
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i think your phone is borked. my battery has been great. much better than my s4.

II-XeenoX-II said:
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I had mine on for 6 hours straight streaming pandora on high quality. My battery indicator literally did not move <1mm. I thought that was some heavy usage so wondering what you subjected yours to or what you are basing your opinion on.
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Same here! I was worried coming from the Note 3 to the M8 with the smaller battery. I have kept any stats but my M8 makes it 24 hrs no problem.

I think it's an unfair assessment to just say it's meh. I came from the Note 3 which is probably one of the best batteries out there (mostly due to it's size) and it's holding it's own against that battery life, imo. I've never tried LG G2 or Xperia, but I know Note 3 regularly was at the top if not the #1 battery life phone. Most sites are rating it as above the Note 3, including Anandtech. Idk I think it's all about usage and time. You use a new phone more initially so I'll reserve judgment until I get into a regular flow with it.

OP has a broken M8.
Cancelled my online order and picked up my M8 Friday, been using it over the weekend in the same scenario as my G2.
Battery life is slightly better than the G2, which I ranked as having the most amazing battery life of any phone I've used next to my Note 2.

Dan37tz said:
OP has a broken M8.
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Lol...Why is my phone broken? Cause I feel the battery life is average?
Nothing's broken about my phone.
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shook187 said:
Lol...Why is my phone broken? Cause I feel the battery life is average?
Nothing's broken about my phone.
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The battery life is "meh". Stop watching so much pRon. Lmao jk all jokes aside, the m8's battery is superior for only 2600mah. Thanks a ton to the energy effecient snapdragon 801. Anyway I wake up at 8 and don't plug it back in anywhere around 10-12 at night. That's heavy browsing, snap chat, xda (uses a lot of battery), 20 minutes or so of modern combat 4 and on top of that 90 percent of my day is on campus and I have horrible signal and still the battery is phenominal. you Might have a defective unit or have some rogue apps going crazy in the background
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jonathan413 said:
The battery life is "meh". Stop watching so much pRon. Lmao jk all jokes aside, the m8's battery is superior for only 2600mah. Thanks a ton to the energy effecient snapdragon 801. Anyway I wake up at 8 and don't plug it back in anywhere around 10-12 at night. That's heavy browsing, snap chat, xda (uses a lot of battery), 20 minutes or so of modern combat 4 and on top of that 90 percent of my day is on campus and I have horrible signal and still the battery is phenominal. you Might have a defective unit or have some rogue apps going crazy in the background
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I've had this phone for four days I have not been able to make it through one day without my phone dying. I'm very worried I'm going to have to return this phone to the store or something cause the battery life is awful! I unplugged the phone four hours ago and I'm already at 30%. I hope the problem goes away

juniorluna said:
I've had this phone for four days I have not been able to make it through one day without my phone dying. I'm very worried I'm going to have to return this phone to the store or something cause the battery life is awful! I unplugged the phone four hours ago and I'm already at 30%. I hope the problem goes away
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I'm curious as to what you are doing with the phone to kill it so quickly...

Coming from the og One and Nexus 4 the in the past 9 months I have to say the battery life has been awesome. With moderately heavy use I can very easily go a day and end up at 30-40%.

Not to be a **** but have you don't any searching to see what the issue may be before complaining? Use the tools at hand:
GSAM Battery Monitor
Wakelock detector
Built in battery monitor
Find what the issue is. Most likely its an app with a killer wakelock that you don't even know exists. I just switched to a N5 and am going to the M8 tomorrow and my N5 has slept better then any phone I have ever had because I haven't installed useless apps that sometimes have issues that cause locks.
There is a chance you have a bum device, chances are more likely that you have a bad app though
- this post was more intended at Juniorluna who surprising has only 1 post and its to complain about the One.... Interesting
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[IME/EXO][DISKUSSION] HTC U12+/Exodus 1 - Battery life / SoT Thread

Greetings,
this thread shall help us to discuss the overall experiences with battery life / SoT of our all new HTC U12+ (ime)/Exodus 1 (exo). As I'm receiving my demo unit soon, I'll start uploading screenshots of my personal battery life here, as you can do as well, as soon as you got your HTC U12+.
5m4r7ph0n36uru

Here's one impressive screen shot of @mrjwilliams that can also be found on Twitter.
Uptime 2d 12h 43m
Left 15%
SoT. 4h 39m
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So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!
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I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.

OGhoul said:
I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.
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Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.

OGhoul said:
I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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OGhoul said:
I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.

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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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It could be the that the Twitter user was a very light user, or used power saving before 15%. I'm trying to argue it, I'd really prefer his numbers to be the norm rather than the outlier.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.
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I said the 845 is supposed to be a sipper. I don't have one (yet) to personally test. I believe if this year is another dud year for Qualcomm, this could spell disaster for HTC. I dunno about Oreo being the culprit (overall); my girlfriend got 8.1 on her Essential and she hasn't complained about battery life (and believe me, she'd let me know). My fingers are crossed though.
Make no mistake though, I really do want the U12+ to meet my (IMO) reasonable expectations.

This is my battery stats! 70% time on WiFi 30% LTE. Battery drain is unusually high on LTE. Location off unless required Bluetooth sync off.

This is my first personal stats. 60% Wi-Fi, 40% 4G, BT on all time with a Smartwatch connected.
Listened to some music via USonic ANC Headset, streaming a few videos, browsing, mailing, XDA of course. After the first 58 hours up-time (so this being only the second full run) I'm pretty impressed of what I got
24h, 5h SoT
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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?

I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?

ivicask said:
Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?
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Yes I do.
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RyuujiTakasu said:
I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?
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It does use it. But I couldn't find the adjustments in the settings menu yet, thus are running the out of the box standard setup.
Edit: nevermind just been blind. Found it.
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Can you try use phone for full charge without that feature?Lets see battery difference, after all its LCD not AMOLED.

My unlocked Galaxy S9+ is currently at about 29% with around 1:37 screen on time.....

Out of the box
Start at 80%
Setup and play with everything
screen on 4 hours and 24 minutes.
Go to bed 23:45 battery 24%
Wake up 05:45 battery 23%
Battery life is great for me.
I no it has to settle .
Anyway very happy with the result till now.
Grtz decodertje

Actually, feels like battery life decreases after the first day of use. It's understandable because of added apps. I charge it from 20-30 up to 80-90 (battery health squad). It gives me 4 hours of screen-on time. And I charge the phone only once a day with heavy usage. The major factor is screen brightness which drains battery damn fast when over 50%