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[JUST FOR FUN] Custom or Stock ROM?

Just for fun.
Do you have a custom or stock ROM on your Galaxy Nexus?

Custom .switching between euroskanks cm9 and aokp the whole time
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Running AOKP M5, gives more option of customizing.
Stock ROM is fine too, if you don't need to customize.

Custom ofcourse. Now liquid linaro 1.5rc2, tomorrow maybe something else.

Custom of course.
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Custom!!!
Stock is good. But once you try the custom ROM... you don't want ever go back to stock. Really. You will miss so many handy stuff in stock ROM which is pretty standard in all custom ROMs. For instance:
- Long press back button kills the app.
- Or toggles in notification area
etc.
Currently:
Slim ICS ROM.
CM9 is OK. But it's not Slim ICS
AOKP is very similar to Slim (almost the same). But not as stable and slim as Slim ICS
So.. Slim ICS is the only option for me. All the other ROMs.. well.. good luck with all the other

Idk even why Google make stock so slow and I hated the gradient effect. Google should hire these custom rom devs. They really have skills and talents. After using custom I can't go to that slow, laggy stock rom....
Loving the rascream + trinity 65 stable and cid boot animation
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It's funny that all the comments so far say custom roms, yet the poll result says otherwise. My guess is that people using stock rom have absolutely no problem with it and feel no need to "brag" about how good/stable their rom is
Edit: Yes, I voted stock rom.

Im always rooted and ROMed within the hour of getting my phone. So custom.

custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Right now running custom (CM9) but would have no issue's with just using Stock rooted. Google does a good job putting out stable code that works well. I just like having a couple extra features that CM9 adds.
A kernel is a must though, although stock ROM is good the kernel they push out is obviously not very well optimized.

My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.

oldblue910 said:
My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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This has been my school of thought with the Galaxy Nexus, as well. I did unlock the bootloader straight away, just in case I wanted to try custom ROMs and go back to stock. I haven't had that itch yet though.
I'm not in anyway knocking custom ROMs (I've happily used them on every previous device), I do feel though they are the "scenic route" for this particular phone.

Ran stock + root for the first few months until curiosity got the better of me and I installed CM9 a few days ago. Mostly all good so far apart from a problem with Google Music stuttering occasionally (accompanied by a nice screeching sound ) for no apparent reason.
Thinking of trying Slim ICS next, or I might stick with CM9 depending on how much the stuttering problem annoys me.

I use the stock ROM. I personally don't use many of the customization in other ROMs. And for aesthetics, I don't need UI customizations -- I don't really care how the UI looks. (I was fine with Froyo's UI )
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.

Stock ROMs are slow and sometimes unresponsive. That is inevitable even for the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs are far more tweaked and optimized. Custom ROMs, though, are not necessarily better, since what's best is user-defined. We all have our needs and as long as we're satisfied with what we have, we do just fine.
efrant said:
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
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Quick boot? That sounds like an app that only reboots/reloads the system and not the kernel, correct? (i.e. full boot) What market enabler app works perfectly for ICS?
efrant said:
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
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+1
Besides, on a phone like the Galaxy Nexus, relocking it is dead easy.

I use BAMF paradigm. Its awesome. No other rom is as stable. Also love the quick settings.
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Using Black Ice... started with LiquidSmooth and really liked it (love having profiles so that I can set a "Night" mode in which only my phone will ring and everything else is customized to either just vibrate or just notify by the LED). I then went to AOKP and tried Gummy briefly but neither had profiles. Found Black Ice which is a modified AOKP and havent looked back since. Aside from the nice White on Black scheme it has profiles and has the option for the weather in the notification page.

Chaotic Peace said:
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Was running it on my razor. How is the performance compared to cm9, aokp, gummy?

I can't live without my AOKP!
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Explain me some confusion please.. Sprint GNex

I love my Sprint Gnex, although service sucks. Anyways, I'm confused....
Do I need to upgrade the kernel to do a JB rom? Also, is there a CM10 for Sprint GNex? I'm running the CM9 and I love it. I'm confused with all the different versions I'm seeing and stuff like that and want to make sure that I install the right one so that I can install and let it go.
I did try the are you jellin, and I didn't think it ran too smooth on my phone, so I reverted back to the CM9.
Thanks.
David

spykedvodka said:
I love my Sprint Gnex, although service sucks. Anyways, I'm confused....
Do I need to upgrade the kernel to do a JB rom? Also, is there a CM10 for Sprint GNex? I'm running the CM9 and I love it. I'm confused with all the different versions I'm seeing and stuff like that and want to make sure that I install the right one so that I can install and let it go.
I did try the are you jellin, and I didn't think it ran too smooth on my phone, so I reverted back to the CM9.
Thanks.
David
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ROM's usually come with a compatible kernel (ie if its a JB rom it'll have a JB kernel, whether it's stock or dev made is another story) so you won't need to.
If you want JB fast and install and forget, stock is the only option. Everything else is still early days for JB custom ROM's as for example, CM10 is still getting stuff merged to it from CM9 and not long ago CM10 was just JB + CM apps, no custom stuff.
Also if you had previously tried a JB rom and it wasn't obviously smooth you probably messed up somewhere (perhaps installing an ICS kernel??)
Next time try putting your question (simplified to fit) in the subject box. It is a pain to click on a thread to know what the question is (how would we know if we could answer it?) and I suspect it is also the reason why I'm the first to reply.

moe6 said:
ROM's usually come with a compatible kernel (ie if its a JB rom it'll have a JB kernel, whether it's stock or dev made is another story) so you won't need to.
If you want JB fast and install and forget, stock is the only option. Everything else is still early days for JB custom ROM's as for example, CM10 is still getting stuff merged to it from CM9 and not long ago CM10 was just JB + CM apps, no custom stuff.
Also if you had previously tried a JB rom and it wasn't obviously smooth you probably messed up somewhere (perhaps installing an ICS kernel??)
Next time try putting your question (simplified to fit) in the subject box. It is a pain to click on a thread to know what the question is (how would we know if we could answer it?) and I suspect it is also the reason why I'm the first to reply.
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Ok thank you. I haven't changed any kernals or anything like that. I pretty much just downloaded it and installed it as is. It ran and stuff like that and was pretty cool, but I had a decent amount of FC's and Google Talk wouldn't open for the love of God. The GPS also became pretty inaccurate as I use My Tracks for running on a near daily basis and the inaccuracies with the GPS and timing really couldn't work for me. That was on the Jellin rom.
Where can I find the CM10 version? Or are you saying that its a work in process yet? Just wanted to clarify?
Thanks for help. I'll edit subject if it let me.

It was probably the ROM then. If you really want to try jellybean flash bigxie's (I think that works on CDMA)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771534 This is for GSM, I'm not sure if it works on CDMA but there's probably one in the Sprint Dev forums. CM10 is still a work in progress though, some customisations from CM9 will not be there but will be coming soon. To be 100% clear, if you can't live without CM9 stuff, wait a little longer for CM10/AOKP/ETC JB. They're still porting stuff from ICS over.

moe6 said:
It was probably the ROM then. If you really want to try jellybean flash bigxie's (I think that works on CDMA)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771534 This is for GSM, I'm not sure if it works on CDMA but there's probably one in the Sprint Dev forums. CM10 is still a work in progress though, some customisations from CM9 will not be there but will be coming soon. To be 100% clear, if you can't live without CM9 stuff, wait a little longer for CM10/AOKP/ETC JB. They're still porting stuff from ICS over.
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It will work on CDMA, but you will have to flash its CDMA equalivalent.
DO NOT FLASH MAGURO....
VZW = toro
Sprint = toroplus.... so OP would want toroplus.
Download Link: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=cm10&device=toroplus
Gapps: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=cm10&device=gapps
Most of the features are in CM10 atm... looking at my phone. I have,
- Lock screen customizations
- Status bar tweaks (battery, time)
- Notification widgets
- Volume rocker wake
......... etc.
Navigation bar feature needs to be added in.

One of my big things is the data roaming... CM9 gave me more data roaming features. I live in Mexico, but work in San Diego. Sprint sucks in South San Diego by the 5 (and in Tijuana, Mexico) so I domestically roam on Verizon (I presume). But with stock, when the phone would switch from Sprint to Domestic Roaming to International, there is a little lag with the cut off, hence my average int roaming data bill is like $30 extra bucks a month since the phone was released (for the end of May it was like $15 and June was $33). With CM9, I had more control and was able to open up Domestic Roaming and keep the Int Roaming off.... It also had a better handling of the switching of the service providers on the hand offs as my average bill running CM 9 is about $8 this month.
That's another reason I like the CM9, seems like the best ROM to handle my situation... Sprint sucks. If I wasn't on a 3rd party plan for $30 a month I'd be on Verizon in a heartbeat.
I had the Epic 4G prior to this phone and never had any INT Data Charges.... Only with Nexus.

zephiK said:
It will work on CDMA, but you will have to flash its CDMA equalivalent.
DO NOT FLASH MAGURO....
VZW = toro
Sprint = toroplus.... so OP would want toroplus.
Download Link: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=cm10&device=toroplus
Gapps: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=cm10&device=gapps
Most of the features are in CM10 atm... looking at my phone. I have,
- Lock screen customizations
- Status bar tweaks (battery, time)
- Notification widgets
- Volume rocker wake
......... etc.
Navigation bar feature needs to be added in.
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Yeah I meant as in because he mentions he wants to install and forget, now might not be the best time to do that .

moe6 said:
Yeah I meant as in because he mentions he wants to install and forget, now might not be the best time to do that .
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I all ready installed... lol Fun, isn't it? So I got a question then... If I pay for the ROM Manager, will that let me seamlessly update the app?
Also, I can confirm that the latest build of CM10 does not have the Data Roaming features that the CM9 has had. It seems to be running smoothly as of right now, but cutting down on Int Roaming is huge for me.... Don't tell nobody (ha ha) but I got a Sprint Airave running at my house in Mexico and it works fine.... just traveling between my house and the USA is where I get the data charges from. I wish they would work on putting two features in...
1. Domestic Data Roaming Control
2. International Data Roaming Control
Remember, its not like I'm in deep in Mexico. I'm along the border, so constantly in and out of service and thats why I need those separate controls that most people wouldn't need because you are either international or you aren't.

[Q] Q&A and list of bugs for custom roms

im looking to flash a new rom and i want to thoroughly reserach it before flashing. Does anyone know where I can find FAQs and list of issues to the following roms?
Such as something like AOKP has
[ROM] AOKP(Jellybean 4.2.1 )Task650 (2.2.2013b) (AT&T)
FAQ:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29198513&postcount=3
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29198513#post29198513
[ROM][CM10:Hybrid] PARANOIDANDROID 2.55 (11/21)
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819441
Though I couldnt find a summary or a list of report bugs
[ROM][PA:AOKP] ParanoidKANGdroid 1.40 (11/21) The Most Customizable ROM on Earth!
I couldnt find any Q&A for this ROM, but PA had it......
[ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10 Nightly Builds for SGH-I747
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786563
I couldnt find list of bugs for CM10, speciifcally for stable or Milestones.
If there is a link to what I'm asking for above that will be great. If not, i'll continue reading through the threads.
I'm looking at CM10 and I've been reading lots of issues even at stable......sometimes it makes me think
1) Why do people flash custom roms?
2) is it worth getting a new menu but in exchange your camera, bt, or whatever might not work. Or worse yet, something that you need but only discover that it doesnt work when you use it on the spot?

understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?

xBeerdroiDx said:
understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?
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running Paranoid Android.
It's fairly stable, I haven't ran into too many problems yet.
I did notice it was a bit laggier than my stock ICS after my ICS was supercharged with V6.
its also a bit laggier on games.
It delivers a few customizations i like, like calls only log, custom boot animation, customizable quick launch, face unlock that is fickle.....but i just cant see as of right now why I would change? I lose the ability to make folders on trebuchet (yes....i know Nova Prime), I lose hand swipe screen capture, i lose smart stay (yes there are apps for it). I almost wnat to say battery is a bit worse than stock, during idle its about the same.
You also lose s planner which i found a replacement apps. It just seems like a lot of work restoring sms, tibu, changing all settings to your liking, reinstalling launcher and load settings, loading contact information etc etc for the ability to add toggles, sliding background......
I'm cool for the aesthetics, but i wonder is there any practical improvements, as in performance, speed, signal, battery life.... i think i would enjoy that rom better..........would going to AOKP be the one for me?

I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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xBeerdroiDx said:
I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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Yea i figured i'd jump to AOKP next since PA has CM10 integrated within it already.
I've also tried Ariel (ICS rom), not only did it lack customizability, it wasnt stable. it felt like a less stable version of stock..... i was highly disappointed in my first custom rom. Its not that i like TW necessarily, but the way that everything is set up, its pretty smooth for me and the battery is good too.
I want to try out AOKP or PK before making a decision though.

[Q] Current ROM with OC compatibility

Hi all,
I've scoured the forum for quite some time now and have tried a number of newish ROMs (those posted in May) but have not found any that are compatible with Ktoonsez's latest kernel. A lot of people have advised against overclocking but my GS3 certainly performs better with OC enabled. I flashed one of Jamison's nightlies months ago and it has been the most stable/reliable out of any ROM I've tested since. I either got lucky and found the perfect ROM for my phone or I just haven't found a solid new ROM that supports OC'ing. I've had random reboots, force closes, etc. with all the new ROMs I've tried so I was hoping someone could give me some ideas on a ROM/kernel combination that might work for me. The only reason I even want to change my current ROM is because many of my Google apps report that an update is available, but when I go to update, my "device doesn't support this version." It's quite frustrating and a pretty sad reason to switch ROMs when literally EVERYTHING else works flawlessly, but it is a problem for me and I'd like to be able to stay up to date. Sorry for the long post, but anyone with advice would be wonderful. Thanks!

You need a kernel that support OC, its not ROM specific.. You do however, need to check kernel's description to which base it works with.. Sometimes they will have one for just touchwiz or touchwiz and aosp, thats pretty much the main thing to look for and just try different ones.. It should also say if its OC able or not
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To flash or not to flash

I've been a moderate flashaholic every since the HTC Desire came out. I've tried many different versions of Android 2, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3. It's been fun to do, but there are always issues or one sort or another, usually nothing too serious. It also seems like the different iterations of JB are really not that different after all. My favorite ones are Baked Blackbean (which is no longer being supported) and SlimBean. I was able to get data working, but I still have not been able to get MMS to work. So, I am embarrassed to say this, but I restored an old nandroid of GB (Android 2.3.6), and I was pleasantly surprised! I was not surprised to see that I had no problem with data, MMS, or GPS. I also noticed that now flash player works and I have not gotten a single fc or random reboot. Best news though is that battery life is much, much better, and I have not noticed any difference in speed. I tried using Go Launcher and learned I can even resize my icons. I'm a happy camper for now. but I will probably flash another custom ROM at some point, or I may just wait for the Samsung Note 3 to land.since I am eligible for an upgrade.

I always say flash... Can't stop flashing!
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Always flash is my response too. :thumbup:
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