Hey all.
I've been an AT&T Hox owner since day one and I've really enjoyed this device. Battery life is insanely good, consistently getting over 24 hours usage and 5 hours on screen time. I am uprooted and on the stock rom.
I've been thinking about getting the int Hox because it seems to be getting a lot of updates and has a lot of developer support. HTC and AT&T aren't saying anything about the customs issue which is undoubtedly affecting sales. Rumors even have it that AT&T may stop selling the phone altogether. If that's true then I pretty much have a dead phone, especially since this variant is NOT the One XL int model.
I am not willing to give up the amazing battery life at the cost of benchmark scores. My phone is a tool and I need it to last a long time. What are typical battery stats of the int Hox out of the box? I also don't want to root and flash all kinds of roms until I get good battery life. Thanks for the help.
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There are plenty of threads regarding battery life. I'll be getting my International ONE X by Friday, I'll give you stats then. I'll be using it on Red Pocket (AT&T MVNO)
Arcadia310 said:
What are typical battery stats of the int Hox out of the box?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579392
I'm doing the same. I should have ordered the international One X in the first place.
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I'm doing the same. I should have ordered the international One X in the first place.
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I'm not willing to give up the good battery life though. On the int Hox it seems to vary greatly from device to device. But even on HSPA+ its not as good as the LTE model.
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I'm doing the same. I should have ordered the international One X in the first place.
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The international One X would not have LTE if used on AT&T, right?
And it would have significantly worse battery life b/c it uses Tegra 3?
Would the custom ROMs available on the international One X make the battery life equivalent to the at&t model which uses the S4?
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The international One X would not have LTE if used on AT&T, right?
And it would have significantly worse battery life b/c it uses Tegra 3?
Would the custom ROMs available on the international One X make the battery life equivalent to the at&t model which uses the S4?
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No on the LTE, but I have no idea when LTE is coming here anyway
Battery life is important, but I am not away from chargers long enough to worry about it.
I like the 32 GB of storage vs 16 and the unlocked bootloader and the development that is in place here.
I'm the other way around, I had the Tegra3 HOX 2 weeks ago because I didn't want to wait anymore, but I was waiting for the S4 version to come
Samsuck said:
There are plenty of threads regarding battery life. I'll be getting my International ONE X by Friday, I'll give you stats then. I'll be using it on Red Pocket (AT&T MVNO)
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I have what you're going to get. battery life is awesome, and everything is good. I just dont like the 2GB data cap on redpocket, but will be switching to straight talk unlimited everything for $45. dont go with redpocket, go with straight talk
I've had my HOX international for a couple weeks but didn't stay stock long enough to tell you how your battery life would be. On ARHD 6.0.0 with faux123 002b3 kernel, I am typically seeing 15-18 hours with around 2.5hrs screen time, 2-3hrs playing MP3, 15 min fetch email on 3 accounts, 100 text, 20 min talk, and a little browsing. Meets my needs just fine and the 26gb available vs 9gb on the HOXL really makes the HOX the more prudent device to own. It's just going to get better as software updates and development continues.
The only negatives for the International version are the battery life and no LTE. For me, I don't care about the LTE, and hopefully the rom dev's can do some improvements to the battery life (especially when using the camera).
The advantages of the International version are the 32gb, the speed and it's not limited by US carriers.
However, honestly I don't think either is that much better to switch from one to the other. There are positives and negatives of both and the negatives can circumvented other ways (power packs, cloud storage, portable wifi storage (whatever that thing is called), etc.).
I do have a great idea for the power problem... make a holster that has a usb input outside with the pushpin connectors (whatever they're called) inside. You plug a power pack into the holster and put it in your pocket... then every time you holster it, it'll charge the phone. Another option would be a slightly bigger holster that has its own power pack. You'd have to do some slightly tricky curve around the bottom for the pushpins because you wouldn't want the phone screen facing out, but it looks doable.
Wow im in the same boat as you guys pretty much lol, i just ordered the international version because i was tired of the almost no dev support on the phone (one xl), plus the 16gb storage with only like 8gb usable was getting to me ...
im a bit nervous for battery life thats it, because the one xl did have amazing battery life. best ive ever seen on a phone and the reports on this tegra 3 seem conflicting.
oh well, hoping for the best!
You can always carry a 10000mah external power pack for $50.
You can't add 16gb or turn a dual-core into a quad-core.
I had the AT&T HOX and was pretty unhappy with it. The SMS bug was annoying and there were a few other things.
Since picking up the International version, I have been much happier. I don't know what it is, but it just seems better. As to battery life: I have been pleasantly surprised. My experience is that the Int version does better when idling. So, all that time it's in your pocket, it's using no juice. That's kind of nice. It means when you pull it out of your pocket, there are no surprises. It pretty much has as much juice as it had when you put it away.
With a few hours of screen time, I'm still getting around 14 hours off the charger.
My battery life is awesome. I get a full day with good usage on my part.
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I have what you're going to get. battery life is awesome, and everything is good. I just dont like the 2GB data cap on redpocket, but will be switching to straight talk unlimited everything for $45. dont go with redpocket, go with straight talk
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Straight talk throttles at 2GB. Good luck getting "unlimited".
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As to battery life: I have been pleasantly surprised. My experience is that the Int version does better when idling. So, all that time it's in your pocket, it's using no juice.
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It depends on what you're running. I ran it a day with really no apps on stock and the battery seemed great. After moving to a custom rom and installing all the apps, not so much. I run a number of apps that do polling or transferring of data, which I assume is why there are always a big discrepancy in battery reports. For instance, i run touchdown which is constantly polling my work email (and I get a lot of work email), dropbox which syncs my pictures, an IM client or two (depending on what i'm doing at the time work/etc), etc. Of course, I could not run those apps and get better battery life, but then, I could also go back to using a blackberry if I want to do nothing with my phone. From what I see on the forums, this phone does seem to do better with media and 'on demand' functionality, I think its just people who run a lot of background processes that experience the battery issue. Don't get me wrong, it's not an issue with this phone in particular, but rather battery technology. I've just changed my habits from carrying a couple extra batteries to a portable battery charger. Though, the batteries were a little easier to deal with, but whatever.
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Straight talk throttles at 2GB. Good luck getting "unlimited".
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I honestly don't use the web that much. At work I'm on WiFi and also at home. Only place my data gets used is my gfs house, and even then I'm too busy to use the phone because of sexy Time purposes lol
I'd rather be throttled then cutoff like I would be with red pocket
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I just got the Samsung Galaxy S3. So far I love it..... Except for the fact it has the locked bootloader. All my Androids have had full custom roms. I just like the user experience of AOSP much better.
I am an average or below average power user. Yesterday I took my SGS3 off the charger at 6am and with above average use all day (I was setting all my email and apps up and a few video google talk chats), and was able to make it till 11pm before the device shutdown.
With the SGS3 having a locked bootloader, and not knowing if there will be a workaround to get me a AOSP rom running, I was thinking about returning this device and getting a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Is the battery life really as bad as I am reading?
I am north of Boston and not in a 4G market yet, and even if I was I would most likely shut 4G off for the most part.
Should I hold out in hopes of a bootloader unlock workaround for the SGS3?
Thanks for any responses.
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I'm content with the battery. One charge gets me through the day with what I do and want to do. When I'm home, I always have a charger to use so I only need the battery to last 8 hours.
I have the GSM model and I can easily do two days with a charge. In areas with bad reception this is reduced. However, I still would get 32 hours without a problem.
As long as you don't 4G whore all day, a full day is easy.
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I'm a heavy user. I average 4 to 5 hours screen on time with ease. Phone last from 6 am to 11 pm with juice left still if I cut back to 2 to 3 hours screen on time.
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pickle3782 said:
I just got the Samsung Galaxy S3. So far I love it..... Except for the fact it has the locked bootloader. All my Androids have had full custom roms. I just like the user experience of AOSP much better.
I am an average or below average power user. Yesterday I took my SGS3 off the charger at 6am and with above average use all day (I was setting all my email and apps up and a few video google talk chats), and was able to make it till 11pm before the device shutdown.
With the SGS3 having a locked bootloader, and not knowing if there will be a workaround to get me a AOSP rom running, I was thinking about returning this device and getting a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Is the battery life really as bad as I am reading?
I am north of Boston and not in a 4G market yet, and even if I was I would most likely shut 4G off for the most part.
Should I hold out in hopes of a bootloader unlock workaround for the SGS3?
Thanks for any responses.
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If battery life is important to you then check out the Power Saving mode on the GS3. You can activate in Settings or in the Notification Drop-down. Among other things it downclocks both the CPU and GPU. The phone feels noticably slower in some tasks but it can really stretch out the battery if that's what you care about.
Would I get rid of an SIII for a Nexus? I don't think I would. I love my Nexus and I love the fact that I'm already running JB, but the SIII is one nice phone.
As far as battery life, just the other day I had done 12 hours and it was down to 59% on my GSM Nexus. That was probably a little bit less activity than I normally do but still fairly normal. No video calls or anything like that though. But even with that, for me I've always found that I can get great batteries and chargers from Amazon for cheap and I always carry an extra battery with me just in case. I have one in my bag (gadget freak so I have my gadgets bag), one in my car, one at work. They hold a charge for a very long time too so it's not like I have to be charging them all the time.
What I haven't been able to easily find for the GSM Nexus is spare original batteries. I could easily find those in Amazon for the CDMA one but not the GSM. I like using my NFC and the spare batteries I have do not have NFC
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If battery life is important to you then check out the Power Saving mode on the GS3. You can activate in Settings or in the Notification Drop-down. Among other things it downclocks both the CPU and GPU. The phone feels noticably slower in some tasks but it can really stretch out the battery if that's what you care about.
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He was quite asking about aosp support.. battery is his second consideration
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pickle3782 said:
I just got the Samsung Galaxy S3. So far I love it..... Except for the fact it has the locked bootloader. All my Androids have had full custom roms. I just like the user experience of AOSP much better.
I am an average or below average power user. Yesterday I took my SGS3 off the charger at 6am and with above average use all day (I was setting all my email and apps up and a few video google talk chats), and was able to make it till 11pm before the device shutdown.
With the SGS3 having a locked bootloader, and not knowing if there will be a workaround to get me a AOSP rom running, I was thinking about returning this device and getting a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Is the battery life really as bad as I am reading?
I am north of Boston and not in a 4G market yet, and even if I was I would most likely shut 4G off for the most part.
Should I hold out in hopes of a bootloader unlock workaround for the SGS3?
Thanks for any responses.
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you easily make one day. my average use is 1.5, sometimes above. i have never felt its consumption is weak or bad. if you can, get nexus. i wouldnt wait for anything software related down there in the food chain. hardware is not as important as people make it or manufacturers, who sell new devices every week, would wish it to be. google makes phones that withstand a solid 2 year run. try that with an s3. a fully unlocked and cyanogenmod supprted s3 is something else, but still, when key lime is out you'll be haunted again.
This phone has amazing battery, only the galaxy note and the blu studio 5.3(this thing lasts longer than anything) are better in my case
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I've had the phone for about 2 weeks now and the battery is not great, but it does seem to perform better after the initial couple weeks. I'm a heavy user, and I have a charger at work and home and it works for me. I love the phone and all the features so it's worth it to me; it's essentially my main computer now.
I get great battery life with this phone, even my girl too and she always has issues with battery. But we did switch from sprint to prepaid with straight tall and monthly 4g
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Well, I guess I'll be a downer. I have never been able to get over 8 hours with 2 hours screen on time, tried a few different rom and kernel combos. In my opinion keep the S3.
So long as you're talking about the GSM Galaxy Nexus, OP, the battery is praiseworthy. I bought a GNex from the play store shortly after learning that Samsung would all but abandon the GS2 with regards to future OS updates now that the GS3 is out. Battery is pretty much comparable, I'd say. I managed about 1 day and 10 hours on a charge a few days ago, with 3 hours of screen-on time or so. Some of that time was spent using turn-by-turn navigation as well. I think I put it back on the charger with 8 or 9 percent of the battery left. Friends who have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus report very different results when it comes to battery.
From what I have gathered from the OP he mentions that his SGS3 has a locked bootloader which probably means he has the Verizon version. I would think he wants comparisons to the Verizon/LTE variant of the Galaxy Nexus in terms of battery life, not the GSM version.
The reason I bring this up is that, from what I have read in the forums, the GSM GNex is far better on battery life than the LTE version so it would be an inconsistent comparison.
I've gotten 4.5+ hours of screen time with ease. Bone stock and no attempts to improve battery life at all.
On both the SGS and SGS2 AOSP ROMs (I tried many) got half the battery life that CheeseWiz got.
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I get awesome standby time, but when the screen is on... It just sucks it dry. Yup, brightness is set pretty low.
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I can get about 6-7 hours on a CDMA nexus, kinda sucks but I bought extra batteries
Just buy some extra batteries.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteri...1342019641&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+galaxy+nexus
This is correct. I forgot to mention I'm on Verizon. It has been a while since I have used a non AOSP rom...... it kind of sucks.
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Hi there,
I'm wondering if there's anyone out there who upgraded from a HTC Sensation to a Galaxy Nexus, and could tell me if it was a worthwhile upgrade?
I'm currently rocking a Sensation on Telus (unlocked from Bell) which is running the best AOSP ROM that I've been able to find. I was then considering upgrading to an HTC One X or Galaxy S3. But then I realized I really love the AOSP look and feel, and instead of fighting with AOSP roms on those phones, that I should instead just get a Nexus device.
The upgrade would cost be around $300-350 (while I can probably sell my Sensation for $200-250, so roughly $100 net cost). Is there any noticeable performance upgrade between these phones? I'll miss having the microSD slot (32GB) but I rarely listen to music on my phone, so I could live with the reduced storage space.
Any thoughts and/or opinions would greatly be appreciated
Worth every penny, I think
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Yes,don't think you'll be dissapointed
No brain'r for around $100. Worth it for the 18 zillion roms alone!
I did. Well worth the upgrade if you don't like the speed of Sense 4 on the S3 processor, or if you can't stand Sense 3.6.
Gnex is great.
I did, and the first thing you're gonna notice is the screen on time. With Sensation I'd always got less than 2 or 2.5 screen on time, with nexusGSM, well I can get up to 5 easily.
WORTH IT.
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Hi there,
I'm wondering if there's anyone out there who upgraded from a HTC Sensation to a Galaxy Nexus, and could tell me if it was a worthwhile upgrade?
I'm currently rocking a Sensation on Telus (unlocked from Bell) which is running the best AOSP ROM that I've been able to find. I was then considering upgrading to an HTC One X or Galaxy S3. But then I realized I really love the AOSP look and feel, and instead of fighting with AOSP roms on those phones, that I should instead just get a Nexus device.
The upgrade would cost be around $300-350 (while I can probably sell my Sensation for $200-250, so roughly $100 net cost). Is there any noticeable performance upgrade between these phones? I'll miss having the microSD slot (32GB) but I rarely listen to music on my phone, so I could live with the reduced storage space.
Any thoughts and/or opinions would greatly be appreciated
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Very much worth it. I came from a mytouch 4g slide and I can't believe I didn't get a galaxy nexus sooner. I went from a mytouch 4g slide to a sgs2 to a galaxy nexus and this phone beats all of those names down no complaints
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I made the same transition a little over a month ago - had an unlocked Bell Sensation that I used on AT&T in the states.
I considered the decision for quite some time as I was worried that the upgrade wasn't worth it. After making the upgrade, I am so happy that I did!
Pros:
- If you like AOSP or a stock look/feel, the Nexus will be a great fit for you (I ran HyperNonSense on my Sensation - a minimalist ROM stripped of sense)
- Screen size - I text a lot and now no longer feel the need to switch to landscape mode to type up text messages and emails
- Battery life - a slight improvement from my Sensation but never really had issues making it through the day with either device
- Jelly Bean - BUTTERY Smooth! Can't even begin to describe how nice it is. This is what Android was supposed to be like. This OS is a game changer IMO
Cons:
- No SD card slot. I can live with 16GB on board but having the ability to add up to 64gb with a microSD card would be nice for long trips
- 'Feel' of the hardware - I like the build of HTC phones, they seem to have more 'heft' to them. Not that the Nexus feels cheap but definitely uses more plastics than the Sensation
Verdict: Make the switch. I don't think you'll regret it!
Thanks for all the replies so far!
I'm fairly convinced to grab a Gnexus as soon as I am able to find a decently priced one used. I'm moving back to a big city soon, and there's always 3-4 of them listed on kijiji and craigslist there. Looking forward to joining this community soon .
My only other concern is the battery life of the Gnex. I've read several threads about folks complaining about the battery life. Then again, every android device has always had at least someone complain about the battery life. Is this anything I should worry about?
Do it!
I guess I'm going to get flamed for this but I have to say a BIG no to Galaxy Nexus. I have both the GN and GS3. Here is why:
I love the Nexus devices and their ability to be upgraded directly and first but this phone isn't a REAL Nexus device. Verizon still has the upgrade button in their hand.
The battery life is one of the worst I've ever seen. No matter what rom/kernel combo you use, you should expect no better than 10 hrs and 2 hrs of screen time AT BEST. With GS3, I routinely get 30+ hours and 4+ hours of screen time on stock rom. Others report even better battery life than mine.
Now that the Bootloader is unlocked on the GS3, there is no reason to stay with this POS phone. We got screwed by Samsung and Verizon. The duped Google in thinking this was state of the art phone but it was nothing but a test device for the beast GS3. Plenty of roms are out there for GS3 and the Alpha CM10 is nearly perfect and an RC imho. The bootloader has only been unlocked for a few days though, I'm sure floodgates will be open soon.
Sorry about the strong opinion but I was very frustrated with this phone for 6 months. Now my 14 year old son has to deal with it.
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Thanks for all the replies so far!
I'm fairly convinced to grab a Gnexus as soon as I am able to find a decently priced one used. I'm moving back to a big city soon, and there's always 3-4 of them listed on kijiji and craigslist there. Looking forward to joining this community soon .
My only other concern is the battery life of the Gnex. I've read several threads about folks complaining about the battery life. Then again, every android device has always had at least someone complain about the battery life. Is this anything I should worry about?
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battery life is great. Don;t be discouraged by reading complaints, most have no merit. No smart phone survives 4hrs of screen time running on wifi streaming hd video on full brightness lol. i came from htc inspire (1250mah battery) so for me its awesome using the phone all day and still being around %60 by the end of the night , my inspire would be dead before i left work
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battery life is great. Don;t be discouraged by reading complaints, most have no merit. No smart phone survives 4hrs of screen time running on wifi streaming hd video on full brightness lol. i came from htc inspire (1250mah battery) so for me its awesome using the phone all day and still being around %60 by the end of the night , my inspire would be dead before i left work
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Have you browsed the GS3 forum? I thought the same and bought 2 extra batteries with an external power unit to feed GN. Then I bought the GS3 and was shocked how the two cousins differed so much. Here is a little unscientific comparison I'm trying between the two today:
GS3 Running CM10, 2100 battery, fully charged, calibrated battery: 97% left with 17 min of screen time and an hour since unplugged
GN Running Codename Android 3.3, Franco Kernel, fully charged, calibrated battery: 97% left with 58 seconds of screen time and an hour up time
I'll report more later on tonight.
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I guess I'm going to get flamed for this but I have to say a BIG no to Galaxy Nexus. I have both the GN and GS3. Here is why:
I love the Nexus devices and their ability to be upgraded directly and first but this phone isn't a REAL Nexus device. Verizon still has the upgrade button in their hand.
The battery life is one of the worst I've ever seen. No matter what rom/kernel combo you use, you should expect no better than 10 hrs and 2 hrs of screen time AT BEST. With GS3, I routinely get 30+ hours and 4+ hours of screen time on stock rom. Others report even better battery life than mine.
Now that the Bootloader is unlocked on the GS3, there is no reason to stay with this POS phone. We got screwed by Samsung and Verizon. The duped Google in thinking this was state of the art phone but it was nothing but a test device for the beast GS3. Plenty of roms are out there for GS3 and the Alpha CM10 is nearly perfect and an RC imho. The bootloader has only been unlocked for a few days though, I'm sure floodgates will be open soon.
Sorry about the strong opinion but I was very frustrated with this phone for 6 months. Now my 14 year old son has to deal with it.
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I appreciate the honesty. I'm not entirely sure if the Verizon version of the phone performs significantly differently form the GSM version. I would hazard a guess that the LTE functionality would probably get tossed into the equation, but who knows.
Either way, my plan is to buy one second hand, try it out for a few weeks, and then I'll make a decision on whether to sell my Sensation, or simply resell the Nexus. I'm not a power user that requires hours upon hours of screen time a day. I routinely can get away with 1.5 to 2 days between charges on my Sensation, and I only ever run it dry if I'm tethering with it all day. If the Gnex is as terrible as some have made it sound, I can simply resell it for more or less the same that I'll be purchasing it for.
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Have you browsed the GS3 forum? I thought the same and bought 2 extra batteries with an external power unit to feed GN. Then I bought the GS3 and was shocked how the two cousins differed so much. Here is a little unscientific comparison I'm trying between the two today:
GS3 Running CM10, 2100 battery, fully charged, calibrated battery: 97% left with 17 min of screen time and an hour since unplugged
GN Running Codename Android 3.3, Franco Kernel, fully charged, calibrated battery: 97% left with 58 seconds of screen time and an hour up time
I'll report more later on tonight.
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Have to remember, there is a 400mah (20% increase in size) difference in batteries. The gs3 is a great phone no contest but also consider the gnex is a great phone too and at $350 for no contract cost versus ~$600 for no contract for s3 i would HOPE the gs3 is better.
It's the same debate with any phone, most see no purpose to getting a phone that isn't the absolute best, but some of us look for a good price : performance ratio. When the next flagship phone comes out, youll see the same threads about the gs3 whre people say "the phone sucks, theres no point when you can get (insert new phone) instead!"
nexus: Released 2011, November
Gs3: Released 2012, May
loveubuntu said:
Have you browsed the GS3 forum? I thought the same and bought 2 extra batteries with an external power unit to feed GN. Then I bought the GS3 and was shocked how the two cousins differed so much. Here is a little unscientific comparison I'm trying between the two today:
GS3 Running CM10, 2100 battery, fully charged, calibrated battery: 97% left with 17 min of screen time and an hour since unplugged
GN Running Codename Android 3.3, Franco Kernel, fully charged, calibrated battery: 97% left with 58 seconds of screen time and an hour up time
I'll report more later on tonight.
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I look forward to your results.
I also considered the GS3, but the cost is significantly higher at the moment (roughly $200 more). Plus the Nexus has the advantage of being a pentaband phone, which is great for me since it allows me to use the phone with any providers here in Canada. And the last bonus of the Nexus is the fact that I wouldn't have to fight with it to get an AOSP experience. Coming from the HTC Desire and Sensation, I've always had to fight and wait quite a while after every new Android version for really good AOSP roms. These are what I look forward to most about the Nexus device.
But believe me, the GS3 tempted me as well. Here at work about half the guys got brand new GS3 from the company, and they absolutely love them (I'm only a temp, so no phone for me ).
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Have to remember, there is a 400mah (20% increase in size) difference in batteries. The gs3 is a great phone no contest but also consider the gnex is a great phone too and at $350 for no contract cost versus ~$600 for no contract for s3 i would HOPE the gs3 is better.
It's the same debate with any phone, most see no purpose to getting a phone that isn't the absolute best, but some of us look for a good price : performance ratio. When the next flagship phone comes out, youll see the same threads about the gs3 whre people say "the phone sucks, theres no point when you can get (insert new phone) instead!"
nexus: Released 2011, November
Gs3: Released 2012, May
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same battery, 2100 mah OEM, is being used on both phones. I don't dare using the stock battery (1850).
I'm sure the battery is great with GSM phones because they don't truly have 4G LTE. It's not even close. 4G radio is a battery hog. So if you are using it on a 3g/3.5g networks, you should be quite happy. But Verizon network has the best signal,coverage, and speed. This comes at the expense of battery life. Somehow, between GN and GS3, Samsung figured out how to address this. That's all I'm saying.
Also, there is a thread on GS3 forums addressing the World Phone/GSM issue. It appears that Verizon's phone can be unlocked to work as a GSM phone. I doubt this can be used with Sprint since most their phones have a hidden sim card.Here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
I just think that giving business to a company for this phone while there are better phones out there sends the wrong message. If you punish them, maybe next time this won't happen. Hoping the upcoming JB radios can help with these battery issues but I've heard it's the processor.
ah. I have the gsm one and that likely is the difference. Mine I get away with charging every other day but as said it is only 3g (hspa w/e its 3g).
If you don't need LTE, buy the GSM version, it's the "true" nexus because it recieves the updates directly from Google, besides, the battery life, at least in my case, is great, with the original battery
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If you don't need LTE, buy the GSM version, it's the "true" nexus because it recieves the updates directly from Google, besides, the battery life, at least in my case, is great, with the original battery
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That's the plan. We only have access to the GSM version here in Canada anyways. I believe Verizon had the exclusivity with the LTE model.
I recently got my AT&T SGS3. I'm so disapointed by the service, but that's another topic.
My wife has an HTC One X. I installed Quadrant on both devices: the One X had a score of 5600-ish and my SGS3 had one of 4600--ish. What gives?!
My SGS3 is rooted, I'm running Launcher Pro, and have installed Google Now. Other than that, I'm running (way) more apps: FB, Twitter, etc. She runs pretty bare-bones. Could this be impacting the score?
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I recently got my AT&T SGS3. I'm so disapointed by the service, but that's another topic.
My wife has an HTC One X. I installed Quadrant on both devices: the One X had a score of 5600-ish and my SGS3 had one of 4600--ish. What gives?!
My SGS3 is rooted, I'm running Launcher Pro, and have installed Google Now. Other than that, I'm running (way) more apps: FB, Twitter, etc. She runs pretty bare-bones. Could this be impacting the score?
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clear running apps from both phones and run again. My One X and SGS III are within a few points of each other. However, don't get hung up on quadrant scores. They're pretty meaningless. The only thing that matters is how you feel like the phone is operating.
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clear running apps from both phones and run again. My One X and SGS III are within a few points of each other. However, don't get hung up on quadrant scores. They're pretty meaningless. The only thing that matters is how you feel like the phone is operating.
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I did a couple of things: Killed LauncherPro and ran the stock TouchWiz. Also made sure I killed all apps. The score is significantly lower now. See attached.
The reason for running the benchmark was because I was complaining about the (1 day) battery life on my phone, and my wife says she goes two to three days without charging. So I was going to show her how much better my phone was. Imagine my dissapointment when not only did I demonstrate to her that my phone is much slower, but that her battery life is much much better.
The reality is, the phone is feeling sluggish, and I can't figure out why. Her screen seems to be better, battery life better, service (w/ Sprint vs. my AT&T) better, and performance better.
@gunnyman: Since you have both phones, I'd love to hear how you compare the two. At this point, I'm thinking of ditching my SGS3 and just getting the same phone she has.
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That score tells me there's probably something wrong with your phone, or some app has a rogue process that is killing both performance and battery life.
Comparing the One X to the SGS III is very difficult. both have their plusses and minuses.
The screen on the One X is hands down the nicest one available today.
However, AT&T/HTC have locked it down to the point where even an iPhone is easier to hack.
Also the lack of removable storage was a dealbreaker for me.
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That score tells me there's probably something wrong with your phone, or some app has a rogue process that is killing both performance and battery life.
Comparing the One X to the SGS III is very difficult. both have their plusses and minuses.
The screen on the One X is hands down the nicest one available today.
However, AT&T/HTC have locked it down to the point where even an iPhone is easier to hack.
Also the lack of removable storage was a dealbreaker for me.
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How is the battery life on your two phones?
Also, any suggestions on how to track down the issue re something being wrong or a rogue process?
Well I sold the One X last week but Battery life is only SLIGHTLY better on it than on the sgs III I get through the day and have about 20-30% battery left before I put it on the charger. I'm a very heavy user. I see about 4 hrs of screen time.
When comparing battery life that's what matters. On your wife's phone how much screen on time does she have before she has to charge it up?
My wife has an HTC inspire which she has to charge every two days. However she uses her phone much less than I use mine.
As for tracking down what's happening with the phone, get better battery stats from the play store. It will track wake locks, which prevent the phone from going into deep sleep.
Install the program and check it at the end of the day and you'll get a very good idea about what is using the battery.
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Well I sold the One X last week but Battery life is only SLIGHTLY better on it than on the sgs III I get through the day and have about 20-30% battery left before I put it on the charger. I'm a very heavy user. I see about 4 hrs of screen time.
When comparing battery life that's what matters. On your wife's phone how much screen on time does she have before she has to charge it up?
My wife has an HTC inspire which she has to charge every two days. However she uses her phone much less than I use mine.
As for tracking down what's happening with the phone, get better battery stats from the play store. It will track wake locks, which prevent the phone from going into deep sleep.
Install the program and check it at the end of the day and you'll get a very good idea about what is using the battery.
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I'll give Better Battery Stats a shot. Thank you.
No problem. Good luck.
General consensus is that quadrant scores and benchmark scores mean nothing. If you want to compare try launching apps on both phones or just switching phones for a few days.
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General consensus is that quadrant scores and benchmark scores mean nothing. If you want to compare try launching apps on both phones or just switching phones for a few days.
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Understood. But I am curious as to why my own Quadrant scores are going from the mid-4000's to 3200...
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Understood. But I am curious as to why my own Quadrant scores are going from the mid-4000's to 3200...
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I wouldn't worry, there's little things you can change that wouldn't effect real world performance but would buff quadrant by 1000 points... If your going to test try Antutu, it is the most accurate Imo but I still wouldn't worry to much what it says. I've seen my gsiii score anywhere from 4000 to 9500 in Antutu depending on apps open, current rom/kernel, run time, battery temp etc.
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Out of curiosity, I just installed and ran Quadrant on my i747M (Telus) running the leaked Bell Jelly Bean firmware. Before running the benchmark, I went into the Task Manager and killed all running apps and freed memory. My score was 5906.
If you're running Samsung firmware, make sure you don't have the Power Saving toggle turned on.
One my One X I generally get way better battery life than with my S3. Never bothered to run any quadrant scores, but I'm sure the general consensus is that the One X has a little better battery life.
I also play with the S3 more than the One X so that may explain my battery difference.
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Well one major thing I seen is that your lte isn't there which means your going to be considerably slow reboot that's what I had to do last night as I was getting spoty lte service last night. Can also boot into stock recovery and clear your cache out also
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I got this. But I didn't close any apps. Had the music player going too.
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I had the one x its lags ibplaces the s3 doesnt. I loved the build quality but yeah no ways its faster than a s3
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One my One X I generally get way better battery life than with my S3. Never bothered to run any quadrant scores, but I'm sure the general consensus is that the One X has a little better battery life.
I also play with the S3 more than the One X so that may explain my battery difference.
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The HOX has worse battery life. I just took mine back for an S3 and the S3 is getting two-thirds longer life with identical usage. I also had a locked One X, so I couldn't even try some of the tweaks resulting in better life. I'm running auto-brightness and wifi is always on now with my S3, and previously with the One X I had wifi off whenever the screen was off and the screen was turned down to 30% brightness.
The difference was more than I expected, and considering the spare batteries I've got in the mail - an option the One X doesn't have - I'm very pleased with my switch. I'm sure the extra playing on your S3 is the difference.
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Seems like you tried too many things to make an already perfect phone into too perfect and somewhere in the path something really got weird and that could be one of the reason you are seeing those differences between HOX and Galaxy S3. Also, you said your wife's HOX lasts almost 2 days on single charge. Now the question is, did you try to mimic your wife usage of HOX on your GS3? That way at least you'll get a better idea, what she's doing with her phone that it lasts for 2 days or vice-versa. Please don't take my opinion in any other way. If you are talking about quadrant score, I have attached mine below. It's running stock UCALH9 with stock launcher and most of the bloatware disabled. The only thing different is that I'm rooted. Other than that it's bone stock.
Edit: Forgot to mention that my phone lasts all day with 4 hours of screen time.
CM10 seems to produce lower scores than Touchwiz roms.
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I have decided to get the HOX instead of the GS3 as I can get the 32GB for the price of a 16GB galaxy, and the hardware seems much better and the phone much nicer.
As far as I understand, the 32GB version is the INTERNATIONAL version which basically is a 4 cores and no LTE HOX.
If I get this international version, there would be no problems with rooting and installing custom roms?
My other and very important concern, what about battery life? I read comments where it says it lasts about 6 hours of normal use, which is too little. I thought the HOX had great battery life, or is this a problem with the international version only?
THANKS!
Please ask about this on the international one x forums
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Didn't realized there was one, can any moderator move it there? Thanks.
One xl comes in 32gb in several regions. That spec alone does not define if the phone is Evita or endeaver.
I'm positive is not the LTE because is about 500 new unlocked for 32GB, and it says GSM phone on the description.
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I have decided to get the HOX instead of the GS3 as I can get the 32GB for the price of a 16GB galaxy, and the hardware seems much better and the phone much nicer.
As far as I understand, the 32GB version is the INTERNATIONAL version which basically is a 4 cores and no LTE HOX.
If I get this international version, there would be no problems with rooting and installing custom roms?
My other and very important concern, what about battery life? I read comments where it says it lasts about 6 hours of normal use, which is too little. I thought the HOX had great battery life, or is this a problem with the international version only?
THANKS!
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If you're worried about development progress on the HoX T3, you've got nothing to worry about. It's one of the most active dev forums on XDA. If you got the XL version then you have reason to worry cos development there is a bit on the slow side unfortunately /:
6 hours of normal use? Define normal use I get 3-4 hours on screen time with moderate usage and some heavy duty gaming. Screen auto brightness.
Right, what would be normal use for some would be not normal for others.
I do not use it for long periods of time, but maybe I check incoming emails about 10/20 times a day, send/read another 10/20 whatsapp messages, talk no more than 1 hour on average, and maybe another 30 minutes of browsing.
I currently have a SGS2, and I manage to get about 14 hours of phone use like that, more or less, would I be able to get better battery on the HOX? Would it make any difference if it is the dual core or quad core version?
Thanks.
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Right, what would be normal use for some would be not normal for others.
I do not use it for long periods of time, but maybe I check incoming emails about 10/20 times a day, send/read another 10/20 whatsapp messages, talk no more than 1 hour on average, and maybe another 30 minutes of browsing.
I currently have a SGS2, and I manage to get about 14 hours of phone use like that, more or less, would I be able to get better battery on the HOX? Would it make any difference if it is the dual core or quad core version?
Thanks.
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The dual core version has better battery life while in use, but the quad core one has better standby performance cos of it's 5th companion core. Since the phone will be on standby for the majority of the time, it kinda evens out. Tegra 3 has better talk time, while S4 has better on screen time. Both will definitely last you a whole day at the least I haven't checked out battery performance in awhile, cos it's always plugged in at my office pc But I can do a few tests starting today/tomorrow for a few days to see what my combination of ROM and Kernel does for battery life.
Thanks for the information. So I would buy the international version then, and an S3, just in case, and see which one gives me more battery (really hope it is the HOX, as the S3 is horrible, the S2 is much better looking).
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Thanks for the information. So I would buy the international version then, and an S3, just in case, and see which one gives me more battery (really hope it is the HOX, as the S3 is horrible, the S2 is much better looking).
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The S3 does have a bigger battery though.. Also depends which S3 you're getting, the S4 Krait or the Exynos version (international)
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The S3 does have a bigger battery though.. Also depends which S3 you're getting, the S4 Krait or the Exynos version (international)
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I currently have an S2, which I love, even if I would like the battery to last 2~4 more hours at least, which I would like to upgrade from.
While I love the aesthetics of the S2 in general, I do not like the S3 that much, and love the HOX aesthetics. My only problem with the HOX, or any other phone for that matter, is again battery time.
I think that in general, the HOX and the S3 are more or less the same, the only differences being aesthetics and maybe battery time.
So you are saying that the S3 has a longer lasting battery? Would the Krait last longer in general than the Exynos or the opposite?
I would prefer the HOX, any of the HOXes, to the S3, but battery is the most important thing for me, so much that I have even considered a Razr Maxx, but I'm not so sure about it.
If battery is of the utmost importance, then maybe you'd like to wait for the HoX+ that will be out in shops soon. It has a bigger battery, slightly better front camera, comes with JB and Sense 4+ and a slightly faster clocked Tegra 3. I haven't seen many S3 Exynos reviews yet cos most review sites are US-based, hence having access to the Krait version first. For really in-depth reviews I go for anandtech, they did a review for the Krait S3's already but none for the Exynos yet.
The HoX+ has a 2100 mAh battery, while the S3 has a 2100 mAh battery as well. Both will last you through a day easily, with the S3 slightly ahead.
I would say the Krait would outlast the Exynos, but that's just me making a guess haha.
Ok so i have a DNA and i have a Gnex im having trouble deciding which i should keep for the long run. Obviously specs are on the DNA's side, but customizability is with the Gnex. My main question is battery and signal, i havent had my gnex long enough to see how these perform with the Dna so i was hoping you could help. My Gnex is rooted running Muzzy's latest 4.3 build im using Tinykernal also i am using the hyperion 3800 mah extended battery. Will this combination last as long as my dna throughout the day if not longer, and will the phone be able to hold on to somewhat of the same signal that my dna has? Thanks.
i'd hold on to the Dna cause it has better hardware than the gnex
and i'm sure the DNA has decent development no?
In terms of updates Gnexus wins all the way to KLP. Knowing HTC practice, you may not even get KLP
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The DNA doesn't have support like the gnex obviously, but the DNA does have that pesky Sim card error problem that is very annoying.
comments on battery life and signal strength between the 2? Like I said I use the extended battery I know the stock nexus battery can't last all day to save its life.
Friend of mine has the DNA and I've never heard him complain about battery, and he's outlasted me before too.
Development? I think they have some decent stuff going on, not sure.
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Yea development's cool
they got AOKP, CM10.2 , Carbon , uXYLON and a handful of other roms as well
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The DNA doesn't have support like the gnex obviously, but the DNA does have that pesky Sim card error problem that is very annoying.
comments on battery life and signal strength between the 2? Like I said I use the extended battery I know the stock nexus battery can't last all day to save its life.
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Thats if you live and breathe your phone. I hardly ( and this is the MAJORITY of the users) ever go past 1:30 display time. To anyone who goes over this "average" time has serious issues and should stop to think if most of the interaction is between a computer or actual people. If you view movies and things like that, thats another story but equally annoying. Its a small screen, I can't possibly see myself enjoying a movie in a 4.65 inch screen as a lot of the details are lost but thats just me.
On topic: The GN is a great phone but only due to the work the developers around here. You will receive biased opinions here and thats mainly because many if not most of us have not had a first hand experience with the DNA. So with that said, go with the GN lol
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Ok so i have a DNA and i have a Gnex im having trouble deciding which i should keep for the long run. Obviously specs are on the DNA's side, but customizability is with the Gnex. My main question is battery and signal, i havent had my gnex long enough to see how these perform with the Dna so i was hoping you could help. My Gnex is rooted running Muzzy's latest 4.3 build im using Tinykernal also i am using the hyperion 3800 mah extended battery. Will this combination last as long as my dna throughout the day if not longer, and will the phone be able to hold on to somewhat of the same signal that my dna has? Thanks.
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The DNA runs circles around our phones spec wise, the gnex is getting old, given the gnex will last a long time even after google drops support for it, but your DNA will probably be a device you'll want to use more, bigger screen, better specs, and the development is just fine there.
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Thats if you live and breathe your phone. I hardly ( and this is the MAJORITY of the users) ever go past 1:30 display time. To anyone who goes over this "average" time has serious issues and should stop to think if most of the interaction is between a computer or actual people. If you view movies and things like that, thats another story but equally annoying. Its a small screen, I can't possibly see myself enjoying a movie in a 4.65 inch screen as a lot of the details are lost but thats just me.
On topic: The GN is a great phone but only due to the work the developers around here. You will receive biased opinions here and thats mainly because many if not most of us have not had a first hand experience with the DNA. So with that said, go with the GN lol
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Serious issues for using your phone for more than 1:30 a day? Browsing social networks and texting casually throughout the day will easily go past 1:30 screen on time.
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Serious issues for using your phone for more than 1:30 a day? Browsing social networks and texting casually throughout the day will easily go past 1:30 screen on time.
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+1
4hrs here
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4hrs here
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I'd be lucky to get that much screen on time lmao
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Garridon said:
I'd be lucky to get that much screen on time lmao
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hehe
well that was on 4.3
on 4.2 i used to get about 3.5 hrs or so
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well that was on 4.3
on 4.2 i used to get about 3.5 hrs or so
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With all your same apps installed?
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The DNA gets 2-3 more bars than the Galaxy Nexus, but that doesn't mean better download/upload speeds. The RAZR M usually has the same signal strength as the GalNex, yet 10 times outta 10 the RAZR M beats the GalNex in download speeds... Though ping and upload are about the same. So if you're concerned about that, run speedtests on both in a Verizon store.
I don't like the non-removable battery and storage (if you're going to limit the storage with no SD card option, at least make it 32 GB....), and I really don't like the plug over the micro USB port. Also, 9/10 or so used DNAs on eBay have scratched screens... Not sure if that matters to you, but yours will probably fall victim, it's apparently not Gorilla Glass.
Also, I'm done with HTC, ever since they ****ed over the Thunderbolt owners with updates and releasing the kernel source, I think a lot of us have been weary. How many phones can you say have 4.3 on stock or a ROM? There's the Google Play edition phones, the Nexus line (save the One and S).... Not much else I'm sure. Most devices don't have it anyway.
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With all your same apps installed?
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yes