[Q] Does unlock Bootloader mean out of warranty? - HTC One X

Yes, it looks like a very common question, but I used to own HTC-Wildfire once.
After installing custom ROMS, I have problems with battery malfunction. Untill now, I cannot fix it even if I brought a new battery.
I had purchased HTC One X, before I have found that the official ROM is not the best. I would like to try CUSTOM ROMS, but I'm afraid that it will make my mobile phone out of warranty.
However, I heard that after unlocking bootloader, we can lock it again and install an official ROM but the status of the phone will show " re-lock " instead of lock.
That means someone will know that I used to unlock it.
What do you think about this? Can I do it and also make it restore as untouched when my phone need fixing?
Thank you in advance.
KhSom

It will show re-lock, and I guess this is the purpose.
khom27820 said:
Yes, it looks like a very common question, but I used to own HTC-Wildfire once.
After installing custom ROMS, I have problems with battery malfunction. Untill now, I cannot fix it even if I brought a new battery.
I had purchased HTC One X, before I have found that the official ROM is not the best. I would like to try CUSTOM ROMS, but I'm afraid that it will make my mobile phone out of warranty.
However, I heard that after unlocking bootloader, we can lock it again and install an official ROM but the status of the phone will show " re-lock " instead of lock.
That means someone will know that I used to unlock it.
What do you think about this? Can I do it and also make it restore as untouched when my phone need fixing?
Thank you in advance.
KhSom
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khom27820 said:
Yes, it looks like a very common question, but I used to own HTC-Wildfire once.
After installing custom ROMS, I have problems with battery malfunction. Untill now, I cannot fix it even if I brought a new battery.
I had purchased HTC One X, before I have found that the official ROM is not the best. I would like to try CUSTOM ROMS, but I'm afraid that it will make my mobile phone out of warranty.
However, I heard that after unlocking bootloader, we can lock it again and install an official ROM but the status of the phone will show " re-lock " instead of lock.
That means someone will know that I used to unlock it.
What do you think about this? Can I do it and also make it restore as untouched when my phone need fixing?
Thank you in advance.
KhSom
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Your phone will still be in warranty in case of any hardware defects however should you break your phone as a result of flashing firmware then HTC will not assist you.

Yes, I believe that ANY rooting (and therefore ROM changes) voids the warranty of ANY phone however there are ways of unrooting your phone so that it appears completely unrooted.
Here's one method that may work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900875
However if you use a program such as superoneclick, ginerbreak, etc then an unroot feature is often included.
I believe that these methods don't leave an obvious trace, thus allowing a warranty claim to be made.

dr9722 said:
Your phone will still be in warranty in case of any hardware defects however should you break your phone as a result of flashing firmware then HTC will not assist you.
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That means if something wrong to my phone such as the screen is broken, I can still claim it, right?
If it is, I will begin to unlock my phone and install other ROM doubtlessly.

dr9722 said:
Your phone will still be in warranty in case of any hardware defects however should you break your phone as a result of flashing firmware then HTC will not assist you.
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I had to send my HOX back to the shop because of a dodgy touchscreen. Of course, I had already installed ARHD so I was faced with the same issue. I reinstalled the proper RUU and relocked my bootloader. The shop accepted my RMA after finding the defect and told me that they had sent the phone to the HTC Service Center. So as of now the phone is wherever that is awaiting repair. The jury is still out as to whether they will investigate if the bootloader is relocked. I don't think it will be an issue, but I will report back as soon as I get word!
Cheers,
Mathieu
ps - I will change my signature as soon as I get my HOX back...

HTC will still honor warranty claims even if your phone was unlocked via HTCdev. The lcd on my One X decided that it would display the screen whenever it wanted to and not when I did. I called HTC and opened a ticket, shipped it to them, paid their slightly frustrating $20 USD handling fee, and now it's in repair with nothing else I need to pay.
This is with a unbranded HTCdev unlocked phone that had at least 4 different ROMs flashed as well as 2 kernels.
As far as your question of dodging the RE-LOCKED screen:
Until someone finds a way to S-OFF, we're stuck with it. But believe me that RE-LOCKED looks a whole lot better in HTC's eyes than TAMPERED.
If all you want to do is flash ROMs, just do it the HTC provided way.
Unless you manage to fry your phone by overclocking to 2.5ghz or overvolting, you'll be fine if the phone breaks.

Hi guys,
Just an update. I just received an email in which I was informed that my HOX has been repaired/replaced (I wonder which it is?). So either they didn't check the bootloader (or any secret log files of what has been installed) or they just didn't care. It would seem to have gone well...

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[Q] Warranty...?

Hi, Hope some1 can help me!
ok.. so i have been installing custom roms etc within the last couple of months.. the latest one i used was RCMIX3D Runnymede. This was working absolutely fine until one day the WIFI, the bluetooth, and the up and down volume keys all stopped working. When trying to turn on wifi it says Error. same with bluetooth... i have tried absolutly everything to sort this out. different roms etc.. the volume buttons don't even work in bootloader recovery mode!
I have now managed to install the RUU stock rom 1.32 using my laptop.. and still nothing works..
so i'm thinking must be a hardware problem?! and wanting to send to HTC for a repair... thing is.. i am wondering will they know i have rooted and installed custom roms etc?.. as i now have stock rom from RUU and will update to 2.3.5 via OTA on my 3g network..
Is there anything else i need to do? or have i messed up my chances to get my DHD repaired on the warranty?
Really hope somebody can help!! as this is doing my nut!
Cheers
Garry
hardware failure most likely if its not even working in recovery
my vol - doesnt work, im waiting for the day when the vol + goes kaput as well ,, a weak link in an other wise excellent phone
sometime i think engineers at htc went for lunch when it was time to make the volume rocker
Surely somebody would know if rooting etc would void the warranty?! i have stock rom and now unrooted......
I've just sent my phone back for replacement (long story short, HTC didn't repair my phone completely when they were supposed to, I had to take my phone back, didn't have time to replace it, and after some haggling I finally have got them to get a replacement sorted for me). I sent it back rooted, but with stock firmware (apparently Mac users don't exist, and I'm not installing a copy of Windows on my system just to unroot my phone).
Note that in the Nexus One warranty policy, there was a clause "h", which stated that rooting voided the phone's warranty. None of the phones since, whether that be the Desire or the Desire HD, have this clause. So it is safe to assume, and you have a strong point to argue, that rooting does not void your warranty, though if you come to brick your phone, of course, you won't be covered.
There is no other clause, apart from this clause "h", that covers software; it all covers hardware failure.
Finally, there are loads of stories that I've read of people sending off rooted phones for repair, and them coming back rooted, whereas there are few of phones being rooted, and being refused repair. Also, as you will know, to restore the phone to a standard, completely stock, factory fresh state, all you do is run the RUU; sending a phone back when a simple RUU restore is possible, to me at least, would not be economical, both in terms of time and money.
Get it back on s-on using Easy Radio tool v2_2 found here on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537 and unroot and it should be fine.
However I understand you canĀ“t use volume buttons, but well if you can root the device with visonary then you can do s-on using the tool I mentioned.
After that call HTC explain them your problem and send it for repair. I guess they will not find any traces that you used custom roms and also I heard from several people on www.tweakers.net who used custom roms and even didnt return it on s-on still got there warranty when they had it go for repair.
But most important don't mention about root or custom roms to HTC, aslong as you do that they will probably give the warranty and also HTC is not one doing the repairs it are external repair companies so it might be different for each country.
And yes if you would still have the custom rom on it would void your warranty, that's why I would always put it back to stock if possible, but about root I don't know, but before In returned in my phone for repair I just did a factory reset so that all data was gone and any traces off root.
Thanks for your responses,
I've since found a link on another site.. which shows somebody with the exact same problem and has got HTC to admit its this is a known fault.
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-support-troubleshooting/300012-wifi-error-bluetooth-wont-connect-volume-button-not-responding.html
i'll crack on with the S-on thingy and call them tomorrow to send for repair or replacement
Cheers again for clearing that up

[Q] No Signal(sim card with exclamation mark) after rooting with all in one kit

Helo Guyz!!
I bought a new HTC One m8 a couple of days ago. I've made a call when I bought it, so the sim card was working earlier. I rooted it using "HTC M8 ALL IN ONE V2.0" yesterday so that I can restore the apps+app data via Titanium BackUp from my old Xperia Z. Just turned on my Rooted M8 and it doesn't recieve signals. It shows an icon with a simcard followed by an exclamation mark. Tried my brother's sim, no change!! Made a Factory reset(It didn't Unroot) still no change.
Please help me Guyz!!! Thanks.
I might have unlocked the bootloader while rooting as it was a necessary step in the TUT(All in one tool).
Kunnu2592 said:
Helo Guyz!!
I bought a new HTC One m8 a couple of days ago. I've made a call when I bought it, so the sim card was working earlier. I rooted it using "HTC M8 ALL IN ONE V2.0" yesterday so that I can restore the apps+app data via Titanium BackUp from my old Xperia Z. Just turned on my Rooted M8 and it doesn't recieve signals. It shows an icon with a simcard followed by an exclamation mark. Tried my brother's sim, no change!! Made a Factory reset(It didn't Unroot) still no change.
Please help me Guyz!!! Thanks.
I might have unlocked the bootloader while rooting as it was a necessary step in the TUT(All in one tool).
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Unlocking the bootloader wouldn't affect your device in any means except factory resetting it.
Maybe the tool you used changed the radio? That's the only thing I can think of. Try flashing a different radio
Kunnu2592 said:
I might have unlocked the bootloader while rooting as it was a necessary step in the TUT(All in one tool).
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You don't even know if you unlocked the bootloader? This is one of the big reasons why toolkits and step-by-step tutorials are a bad idea. You are modding your phone with absolutely no understanding of the primary concepts, or what you have even done with your phone. Although the no signal issue doesn't seem related to your lack of knowledge, I'd still recommend you slow down and do more learning and research before messing with the phone anymore, unless you want to risk permanent damage to the device.
Also, all a factory reset does is wipe user data, and doesn't affect the system in any way.
As mentioned in the previous response, simply unlocking the bootloader should not have resulted in no signal.
Are you presently s-on or s-off? You should list step by step what you've done to the phone. Still on the stock ROM, or otherwise? Did you try to restore any system data with Titanium? How precisely did you root the phone after unlocking the bootloader? What recovery and version?
redpoint73 said:
You don't even know if you unlocked the bootloader? This is one of the big reasons why toolkits and step-by-step tutorials are a bad idea. You are modding your phone with absolutely no understanding of the primary concepts, or what you have even done with your phone. Although the no signal issue doesn't seem related to your lack of knowledge, I'd still recommend you slow down and do more learning and research before messing with the phone anymore, unless you want to risk permanent damage to the device.
Also, all a factory reset does is wipe user data, and doesn't affect the system in any way.
As mentioned in the previous response, simply unlocking the bootloader should not have resulted in no signal.
Are you presently s-on or s-off? You should list step by step what you've done to the phone. Still on the stock ROM, or otherwise? Did you try to restore any system data with Titanium? How precisely did you root the phone after unlocking the bootloader? What recovery and version?
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Sorry brother. I thought I was clear. Here is what I did to my phone. I followed this up. Get token, submit it, download a file which was sent via email and use it to unlock the bootloader. Root it at last using the perm root command in the tool itself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
I haven't done anything to the phone after rooting it. No titanium restores.. Nothing. I would want to relock the bootloader want to relock the bootloader using the same tool. Is it safer? Does it makes it normal again? Do I get my warranty then? Does it wipes all the data if I lock bootloader after restoring my apps with titanium backup?
Please help guyz!!
Kunnu2592 said:
I would want to relock the bootloader want to relock the bootloader using the same tool. Is it safer? Does it makes it normal again? Does it wipes all the data if I lock bootloader after restoring my apps with titanium backup?
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Nothing you did should have caused the no signal issue (simply unlocking the bootloader and rooting shouldn't have caused that). So its hard to say what would fix it.
You can try to re-install the stock ROM. Or try to relock the bootloader and see what happens.
Kunnu2592 said:
Does it wipes all the data if I lock bootloader after restoring my apps with titanium backup?
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Not sure, but I believe relocking the bootloader will wipe data. So backup anything important before doing so.
redpoint73 said:
Nothing you did should have caused the no signal issue (simply unlocking the bootloader and rooting shouldn't have caused that). So its hard to say what would fix it.
You can try to re-install the stock ROM. Or try to relock the bootloader and see what happens.
Not sure, but I believe relocking the bootloader will wipe data. So backup anything important before doing so.
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Okay bro... I would try that and be bck!!
ThanQ ?
brichardson1991 said:
Unlocking the bootloader wouldn't affect your device in any means except factory resetting it.
Maybe the tool you used changed the radio? That's the only thing I can think of. Try flashing a different radio
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Idk what Radio is and how to change it. Is it some code that makes the signal receiver work? I just followed a guide and didn't miss any steps. Please enlighten me about it so that I could try something out. ThanQ brother.
Kunnu2592 said:
Idk what Radio is and how to change it. Is it some code that makes the signal receiver work? I just followed a guide and didn't miss any steps. Please enlighten me about it so that I could try something out.
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You didn't answer my question whether you were S-off or S-on. But as you didn't mention it in the steps you performed, you are probably still s-on. That being the case its also likely the radio wasn't modified by anything you did (s-off is needed to write to the radio partition); and on the same note, you can't do anything to that partition now unless you s-off.
I'd go with my previous recommendations for now, and see how that goes before doing more.
Maybe a silly question, but toggling airplane more or rebooting the phone doesn't have any affect on the no signal condition?
Maybe it's not making proper contact in the tray? Tried to remove it and readjust it a bit and put it back? I recall someone mentioning a similar problem months ago and when I read up on it it seemed to be a problem with the Hox as well where they used to put some tape on the back of the sim and put it back in the tray. They did this to "thicken" it a bit so it can get pressed down properly on the circuitry?
Just throwing out my 2cents here...
BerndM14 said:
Maybe it's not making proper contact in the tray? Tried to remove it and readjust it a bit and put it back? I recall someone mentioning a similar problem months ago and when I read up on it it seemed to be a problem with the Hox as well where they used to put some tape on the back of the sim and put it back in the tray. They did this to "thicken" it a bit so it can get pressed down properly on the circuitry?
Just throwing out my 2cents here...
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That's certainly worth exploring as well. It seems like too much a coincidence that this issue occurred right after unlocking the bootloader and rooting. But on the other hand, its odd as such modifications should not have caused the no signal issue.
redpoint73 said:
That's certainly worth exploring as well. It seems like too much a coincidence that this issue occurred right after unlocking the bootloader and rooting. But on the other hand, its odd as such modifications should not have caused the no signal issue.
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Heh, to quote one of my favourite quotes from xxxHolic: There is no such thing as a coincidence in this world, there is only the inevitable.
Could be radio though as well. I went to do a search for this issue and found some of the old threads where they flashed radios, restored the nandroid backup etc.
But perhaps that's something that the OP can look into as well and learn some stuff.
htc one m8 sim card error site:forum.xda-developers.com In google returned many results.
[Q] Sim Card detection Error (m8)
HTC One (M8) Won't recognize Sim Card
etc etc...
brichardson1991 said:
Unlocking the bootloader wouldn't affect your device in any means except factory resetting it.
Maybe the tool you used changed the radio? That's the only thing I can think of. Try flashing a different radio
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redpoint73 said:
Nothing you did should have caused the no signal issue (simply unlocking the bootloader and rooting shouldn't have caused that). So its hard to say what would fix it.
You can try to re-install the stock ROM. Or try to relock the bootloader and see what happens.
Not sure, but I believe relocking the bootloader will wipe data. So backup anything important before doing so.
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It is S-on. My brother have the same phone and when I checked for his radio version in boot loader screen, Its something like "INVALID_VER_INFO" but my device shows a version number "RADIO-1.19.21331147A1.09G". We've bought both phones recently. His phone is untouched where as I messed up my device just for the apps and app data. I fee terrible now. Please help me to undo everything. I guess I cant even take it to the HTC service center as it says "TAMPERED" and "RELOCKED" banners on top of the bootloader screen.
I've used up all my savings on this device and it seems its wasted now.
Pease help me guyz... :crying:
Kunnu2592 said:
We've bought both phones recently. His phone is untouched where as I messed up my device just for the apps and app data. I fee terrible now. Please help me to undo everything.
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You've been given several suggestions to try at this point, and haven't indicated whether you attempted them or not.
You can cry all you want. But if you fail to even try to help yourself, we can't help you either.
Kunnu2592 said:
I guess I cant even take it to the HTC service center as it says "TAMPERED" and "RELOCKED" banners on top of the bootloader screen.
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If you are talking about a warranty claim, warranty doesn't cover damage done by mods you performed. When you chose to unlock the bootloader and root the phone, you accepted all responsibility for any damage that might occur. This is the game we play. If you can't afford to repair or replace the phone in the event of permanent damage done by mods you did; then you shouldn't be modding it in the first place.
If you are talking about paying HTC to fix it, they will still do it if its been tampered. They will likely replace the mainboard and charge you for it.
But honestly, I think your condition can be fixed by software; and sending to HTC is not necessary. But you have to be willing to put in the effort.
redpoint73 said:
You've been given several suggestions to try at this point, and haven't indicated whether you attempted them or not.
You can cry all you want. But if you fail to even try to help yourself, we can't help you either.
If you are talking about a warranty claim, warranty doesn't cover damage done by mods you performed. When you chose to unlock the bootloader and root the phone, you accepted all responsibility for any damage that might occur. This is the game we play. If you can't afford to repair or replace the phone in the event of permanent damage done by mods you did; then you shouldn't be modding it in the first place.
If you are talking about paying HTC to fix it, they will still do it if its been tampered. They will likely replace the mainboard and charge you for it.
But honestly, I think your condition can be fixed by software; and sending to HTC is not necessary. But you have to be willing to put in the effort.
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Hieee bro..
I've relocked the bootloader and it doesn't help. There was no change. I tried to place a thin paper on back of the sim card to make a better connection. It still doesn't work. It now says TAMPERED and RELOCKED(after relocking the bootloader). I installed a stock firmware and it didn't solved the problem too.
I read endless posts but found nothing that can help the situation. Just waiting for help from my thread.
I want to try restoring my brother's backup. But is it possible to make a complete system backup to flash into my device without rooting? I don't want to mess his device too....
Thank you.
Kunnu2592 said:
I want to try restoring my brother's backup. But is it possible to make a complete system backup to flash into my device without rooting? I don't want to mess his device too....
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Nope.
Nor will doing so yield anything that isn't already easily available here (so don't bother unlocking bootloader and rooting his phone just to help your own situation, its a waste of time): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
Restore the appropriate stock ROM, and see if that helps.
redpoint73 said:
Nope.
Nor will doing so yield anything that isn't already easily available here (so don't bother unlocking bootloader and rooting his phone just to help your own situation, its a waste of time): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
Restore the appropriate stock ROM, and see if that helps.
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Yeahhh bro.. Ua right. I'll try a Stock Rom again and will be bck wid the result.
Thanks for ua help

[Q] Unlock counter?

So, it seems that HTC is now refusing warranty service if you are S-off, regardless of the rest of the state of the phone itself. I have, while reading about this, heard rumors of an unlock counter that would reveal how many times you have locked/unlocked the boot loader, presumably so that even if you managed to "lock" (as opposed to "relock"), a record would still exist that the phone was previously "unlocked". That seems a bit much, since there is already a "relocked" status, but you never know.
Now, if this exists, I would imagine this is probably part of what using the HTCdev token does (in addition to factory resetting the phone). It would make sense that directly writing to the lock locations would bypass such a counter, but it would still be useful information to know.
It wouldn't be unprecedented either. I recall my Samsung Galaxy S2 has a counter that keeps track of how many times certain things are flashed (like the recovery partition), requiring tools like triangle away after a while.
Has anyone looked into this?
jshamlet said:
So, it seems that HTC is now refusing warranty service if you are S-off, regardless of the rest of the state of the phone itself. I have, while reading about this, heard rumors of an unlock counter that would reveal how many times you have locked/unlocked the boot loader,
presumably so that even if you managed to "lock" (as opposed to "relock"), a record would still exist that the phone was previously "unlocked". That seems a bit much, since there is already a "relocked" status, but you never know.
Now, if this exists, I would imagine this is probably part of what using the HTCdev token does (in addition to factory resetting the phone). It would make sense that directly writing to the lock locations would bypass such a counter, but it would still be useful information to know.
It wouldn't be unprecedented either. I recall my Samsung Galaxy S2 has a counter that keeps track of how many times certain things are flashed (like the recovery partition), requiring tools like triangle away after a while.
Has anyone looked into this?
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I can't recall reading anything like that on these M8 forums, if there was something like that surely the developers here would have picked it up by now and shared such information , in the least to warn people to not do it unless they're prepared to accept the fact that there are such counters...
I know the S3 also had a counter like the S2. That aside, where's the link to the article(?) you read about the S-OFF issue?
I just got my device back from service. I left it s-off, no problem. Warranty covered.
I bookmarked it on my computer at work so I'll have to try to find it again. Gist of it was that a guy sent a phone in converted to stock, including S-on, and HTC refused warranty repair because they had evidence that it had been tampered with. I'm trying to find the thread again, as it may simply be the guy had used HTCdev at some point.
jshamlet said:
I bookmarked it on my computer at work so I'll have to try to find it again. Gist of it was that a guy sent a phone in converted to stock, including S-on, and HTC refused warranty repair because they had evidence that it had been tampered with. I'm trying to find the thread again, as it may simply be the guy had used HTCdev at some point.
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Well that would make sense if he bricked his device by gaining S-OFF and stupidly flashed something like he shouldn't have i.e something from another device. If it's hardware related then I can't see how they can refuse a warranty repair on the basis of tampering with software unless they can prove that unlocking bootloader and getting S-OFF causes a screen to crack for example.
But like I said before, you probably can't under estimate huge companies and their greedy nature along with the lies, fraud and general corruption that follows it.

Is using the box safe?

Hi, my HTC one M8 eye isn't working for about one week now because I installed a wrong ROM on it. I tried many methods to get it back working but all have failed. I messaged HTC service center in my country and they said they can't support it even if I pay, since it was damaged in a non technical way. So I sent it to a guy in a Mobile repair shop and after two days he said, something is preventing any flash ROM from being installed and that he has to use the box method to remove the cid and make the phone accept any custom ROM. Now, I don't understand what was he talking about and I fear this would lead to more damage. What shall I do?
Thank you in advance .
Aboemn said:
Hi, my HTC one M8 eye isn't working for about one week now because I installed a wrong ROM on it. I tried many methods to get it back working but all have failed. I messaged HTC service center in my country and they said they can't support it even if I pay, since it was damaged in a non technical way. So I sent it to a guy in a Mobile repair shop and after two days he said, something is preventing any flash ROM from being installed and that he has to use the box method to remove the cid and make the phone accept any custom ROM. Now, I don't understand what was he talking about and I fear this would lead to more damage. What shall I do?
Thank you in advance .
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The tech guy is referring to the dedicated boxes used to unlock ,flash or repair mobile phones.it should be safe as long as the guy knows what he is doing.But I doubt there's a box that could change CID without the phone being s-off.
Flashing a wrong rom should only result to a soft brick.As long as you can boot to fastboot you practically can fix it with official methods like relocking the bootloader and restore with RUU.
or flash twrp and install a custom rom.
Yer im pretty sure they cant change CID without S-Off, i was looking at buying the Xtc2 clip. very similar, but doesnt change cid, and as already said, soft brick=easy to fix, i fear he may be trying the old garage mechanic routine, go in with a flat tyre, come out with a new engine lol.

Losing features upon bootloader unlock/root?

Hey everyone,
I've tried to google around and search the forums on XDA but there is no straight up answer to some questions I have. This is the first HTC device I own and although I have been rooting/unlocking devices since the Nexus 4, I am afraid to go ahead with this one. I just wanted the answers to the following questions, if anyone here knows them please:
1. Unlocking the bootloader seems straight-forward and supported by HTC. I'm in the UK which means no Uh-Oh protection. If something was to happen to the device and I sent it back under warranty, would I be ****ed or would HTC replace/repair it? HTC UK's call center was worse than useless and HTC US' policy doesn't apply to us so I thought I should ask here.
2. Does unlocking the bootloader and rooting mean I will lose access to the fingerprint scanner, camera quality or anything 'stock'? I know Android Pay won't work but at the moment I am not too bothered either way because it's a hit and miss thing with it.
3. Finally, is there a way to completely revert unlocking the phone/s-off and going back to S-ON/Locked without any signs of having messed around with the device? I ask in relation to question 1. If unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty for UK users, is there a way to go back to stock and make the phone as though NOTHING was done to it?
Thank you to anyone who helps answer even 1 of these questions :victory:. I want to root and get xposed onto my new device but not at the cost of losing features on a brand new phone or losing warranty on it either :silly:
1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
jaredkzr said:
1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
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Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
Devzz said:
Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
jaredkzr said:
Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
Devzz said:
Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, it really is a great thing they've done! HTC is being really friendly to developers and power users. If you have questions or need some help with the unlocking or rooting feel free to drop me a PM!

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