What is a bad ESN? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mob/3031575517.html
theres a really cheap nexus and i am wondering if it is worth buying, idk what a "bad ESN" is but if it software problem, can it be fixed?

Bad esn= no Verizon for you. Means someone either lost/stole/didn't pay their bill on the phone
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Could mean a lot of things. it could be stolen, or he may just be overdue on the sprint bill. I would obtain the esn from the seller and contact sprint to see what the issue is. It may be something you can take care of, it may not be. If not, you can flash to another carrier.
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I mean sprint. Sorry was just responding from the "bad esn" part
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alright thanks guys! very helpful!

It can only be flashed to another carrier if you have the software ans know how to do so. I don't think anyone at all is flashing their Galaxy nexus so it can't be flashed. I would stay away from anything that says "bad ESN" it is most likely stolen. Especially on Craigslist.
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ESN (Electronic Serial Number) is the CDMA equivalent of GSM's IMEI number. It's unique to each phone. It allows carriers to 'lock' out a phone that has been stolen or is unpaid.
Basically, the phone is either stolen or not completely paid for. I believe it's a federal offense to reprogram/flash a new ESN on a phone.
Unless you can get the ESN and talk to sprint about releasing the phone *before* the purchase, stay away.

joshnichols189 said:
It can only be flashed to another carrier if you have the software ans know how to do so. I don't think anyone at all is flashing their Galaxy nexus so it can't be flashed. I would stay away from anything that says "bad ESN" it is most likely stolen. Especially on Craigslist.
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Yes. I want aware of any method to flash the gnex from one carrier to another but I've got a gsm version, so I've never concerned myself with it.
Like I said, try to call sprint if you can obtain the esn from seller. If they tell you it is as simple as a past due bill, find out how much. May be worth it to pay it off since phone so cheap. If stolen or lost obviously report it to authorities.
If it is a past due Bill you decide to pay off, I would have seller meet you @ sprint store to exchange so you can make sure it is good to go before you accept it.
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thos25 said:
Yes. I want aware of any method to flash the gnex from one carrier to another but I've got a gsm version, so I've never concerned myself with it.
Like I said, try to call sprint if you can obtain the esn from seller. If they tell you it is as simple as a past due bill, find out how much. May be worth it to pay it off since phone so cheap. If stolen or lost obviously report it to authorities.
If it is a past due Bill you decide to pay off, I would have seller meet you @ sprint store to exchange so you can make sure it is good to go before you accept it.
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I highly doubt it is a past due bill.. if it is it is probably huge as if it was like $100 the guy could just pay the $100 and sell the device for more..
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If you buy the phone with the bad ESN and it turns out to be reported stolen, you then have possession of stolen property... they would probably confiscate it and question you..

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My IMEI got blocked by T-Mobile

I bought my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone off craigslist 2 months ago brand new in box as of Saturday my IMEI has been blocked. This must have been a stolen phone or something. Yeah I was really mad but oh well.. Any suggestions at this point?? Can I unlock it and sell it that way??
HOw did you get notified. And it's good to check esnimei before buying
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sell it on eBay or craigslist. Yes you can unlock it first and list that as one of the features
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I have one more piece of advice. Such a phone was probably stolen by a T-Mobile employee. Why not call and ask for the customer retention center? They can hook you up.
When I bought 2 s3s and switched my mom to my Hercules they jacked all the 32 and 64 gb cards. They know they are not paying their employees enough.
Insinuate you feel the phone was sold to you by a T-Mobile employee. extremely likely
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bipoler said:
HOw did you get notified. And it's good to check esnimei before buying
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I didn't get notified..At first I thought I did a bad flash or something because I wasn't getting signal through out the day so I back tracked on everything I did. I went back to stock and started the process over again to root and ect.. I was still not getting signal or data so the next day I called T-Mobile and asked was something wrong with my account they said no all paid and up to date then they asked for the IMEI# and then the T-Mobile rep said " Oh I see what the problem is your imei/phone is blocked. Then right away I knew this must have been reported stolen.
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sell it on eBay or craigslist. Yes you can unlock it first and list that as one of the features
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I have one more piece of advice. Such a phone was probably stolen by a T-Mobile employee. Why not call and ask for the customer retention center? They can hook you up.
When I bought 2 s3s and switched my mom to my Hercules they jacked all the 32 and 64 gb cards. They know they are not paying their employees enough.
Insinuate you feel the phone was sold to you by a T-Mobile employee. extremely likely
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This guy knows nothing of what he is talking about! Your phone was blocked because someone bought the phone and split it into payments on their account! Most likely their account was cancelled or couldn't pay it, so they figured they would sell the phone to offset what they owe. Only only only way to get it unblocked is to get a hold of the seller and have him reactivate the account or pay off what ever they owe for the phone on the account. This is starting to happen a lot now! So much everyone be careful! Another thing also is the guy did an insurance claim and sold you the phone that was supposedly lost. I would hit up the guy! Good luck!
You can unlock it and sell it for people to use on any other GSM service but T-Mobile!
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deviusdragger said:
This guy knows nothing of what he is talking about! Your phone was blocked because someone bought the phone and split it into payments on their account! Most likely their account was cancelled or couldn't pay it, so they figured they would sell the phone to offset what they owe. Only only only way to get it unblocked is to get a hold of the seller and have him reactivate the account or pay off what ever they owe for the phone on the account. This is starting to happen a lot now! So much everyone be careful! Another thing also is the guy did an insurance claim and sold you the phone that was supposedly lost. I would hit up the guy! Good luck!
You can unlock it and sell it for people to use on any other GSM service but T-Mobile!
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You may be right, however the OP is a paying customer who (hopefully) is in good standing with T-Mobile. If you have a _napkin_receipt (or invent one...) you could get with retention and email them your information.
OP, you made a purchase in good faith and hoped to pay for T-Mobile service in good faith. You want to continue paying T-Mobile and regardless if you were scammed, they could accommodate you.
Otherwise I would unlock the phone and try to sell it to a Wind subscriber. At least make a trade and get a decent phone in return, like a note. If you were honest with me and I was on Wind with a Note or GS2 or whatever they have, I would consider a trade.
You guys must think that T-Mobile is stupid, the invoices are all the same through all locations, and they track them and verify in their systems that the phone was paid. No way around, no matter what you do! You can call and cry and tell them you were ripped off! Phone will no get unblocked unless it shows in their system that the installment plan that was started on that device is paid off!
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And that's why you don't upgrade through T-Mobile... If you want a phone it's cheaper to go to like Wal-Mart or some other store (Not Best Buy) pay it in full.. It's screwed up people screw other people over like this...
konceptz said:
You may be right, however the OP is a paying customer who (hopefully) is in good standing with T-Mobile. If you have a _napkin_receipt (or invent one...) you could get with retention and email them your information.
OP, you made a purchase in good faith and hoped to pay for T-Mobile service in good faith. You want to continue paying T-Mobile and regardless if you were scammed, they could accommodate you.
Otherwise I would unlock the phone and try to sell it to a Wind subscriber. At least make a trade and get a decent phone in return, like a note. If you were honest with me and I was on Wind with a Note or GS2 or whatever they have, I would consider a trade.
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It don't matter how if he is in good standing with Tmobile, the phone he bought off the craigslist person account is not. That's what's scary about buying from CL. You can try to talk to customer Service, but I think you are screwed.
How i unblocked my imei from o2.
you may get lucky i had the same issue with o2, all i did was got lucky to be honest i unlocked the network and have since been useing a 3 sim works fine cheap to try like £1 so not breaking the bank if not try a few networks like vodafone as they dont piggyback from anyone so they may not get notified that your imei has been blocked.
It probably wasn't stolen but purchased on an EIP and never paid for.. stop buying phones on craigslist unless you have a receipt and proof that it's not on an EIP
that is what happens when you buy second hand, trying to save money cost you alot more than you think. you better find out if it is stolen, first off.
sell it to some developer or someone .. that way you could recover some money
sorry man but now you have an expensive media player. but I see many ppl trying to sell their phone with IMEI blocked.
help ASAP
[hey my cusin locked up my phone{reason i told him im saling it an he wanted to buy it an i said no} its a tmobile galaxy s is there a way tht i can unlock it
Very scary. I bought mine on CL new in box also.
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Very scary. I bought mine on CL new in box also.
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Maybe legit, but keep in mind, alot of carrier employee's will steal phones, and those places are exactly where they can get rid of them, I have a friend that got burn twice....I told him stop looking on CL. Just becuase it is new in box, don't mean a damn thing. It may take 2-3mo for the carrier to do inventory, and bingo, that is when they will block it.
Ugh.. the chances of it being an employee are slim. The chances of it being a defaulted Value EIP are most likely.
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I didn't get notified..At first I thought I did a bad flash or something because I wasn't getting signal through out the day so I back tracked on everything I did. I went back to stock and started the process over again to root and ect.. I was still not getting signal or data so the next day I called T-Mobile and asked was something wrong with my account they said no all paid and up to date then they asked for the IMEI# and then the T-Mobile rep said " Oh I see what the problem is your imei/phone is blocked. Then right away I knew this must have been reported stolen.
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deviusdragger said:
This guy knows nothing of what he is talking about! Your phone was blocked because someone bought the phone and split it into payments on their account! Most likely their account was cancelled or couldn't pay it, so they figured they would sell the phone to offset what they owe. Only only only way to get it unblocked is to get a hold of the seller and have him reactivate the account or pay off what ever they owe for the phone on the account. This is starting to happen a lot now! So much everyone be careful! Another thing also is the guy did an insurance claim and sold you the phone that was supposedly lost. I would hit up the guy! Good luck!
You can unlock it and sell it for people to use on any other GSM service but T-Mobile!
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Hey OP, what happened to this phone eventually? Did you get it to work? Do you know if it works on Straight Talk with Tmobile based SIM?
I am buying an S3 tomorrow off Craigslist and not sure what's is going to happen. I have a Tmobile based straight talk sim I don't know what happens when Tmobile blocks the IMEI does it affect the straight talk users too?
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heygrl said:
Ugh.. the chances of it being an employee are slim. The chances of it being a defaulted Value EIP are most likely.
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Do you know if tmobile blocked s3 phones work on straight talk with Tmobile based sim cards? (or AT&T)
Just unlock it and go to att or tell tmobile customer service there going to lose a paying customer.
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[Q] T-Mobile Blocked Phone!

I purchased a T-Mobile Galaxy S3 from Negri Electronics. I signed up with T-Mobile for service. It worked great for a few weeks. Then it suddenly stopped working, meaning no phone or data, the device itself of course works fine. So I called T-Mobile and they told me the phone has been blocked, that I should take it back to Negri. Negri is closed now. T-Mobile says if they block a phone it is for fraud or suchlike. What should I make of this? Is Negri selling stolen goods? Anyone here ever have a problem like this? What if Negri won't replace it?
Inb4 lock
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sun365 said:
I purchased a Sprint Galaxy S3 from Negri Electronics. I signed up with Sprint for service. It worked great for a few weeks. Then it suddenly stopped working, meaning no phone or data, the device itself of course works fine. So I called Sprint and they told me the phone has been blocked, that I should take it back to Negri. Negri is closed now. T-Mobile says if they block a phone it is for fraud or suchlike. What should I make of this? Is Negri selling stolen goods? Anyone here ever have a problem like this? What if Negri won't replace it?
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I would contact Negri Electronics first. But it sounds like the phone was stolen.
Yeah phone must of been reported lost or stolen but why are u posting on the t-mobile s3 forms ?
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Cause this is a T-Mobile phone, I mistakenly wrote Sprint in the message (I now see).
slim1991 said:
Yeah phone must of been reported lost or stolen but why are u posting on the t-mobile s3 forms ?
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Lmao what a troll this one. 1 u cant use sprint phone on tmobile and even if u were using it on tmobile and sprint blocked it still it would let u use it on tmobile(although thats technically impossible) and as it regards negri they are very clean and dont give a **** about those $600 you paid for that device so they would never sell stolen phone since they have been in business for so long. You sound more like those assholes that order something and switch it with some crap device purchased on craigslist then blame it on the seller which in this case is negri. If i was u i would not even try to commit fraud but if u do i hope negri reports u to the authorities and they kick ur ass in prison because fraud is illegal.
You gotta be careful buying your phone from Nigerian princesses.
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why don't you chill out.
no one can swap anything cause there is an IMEI number that on the invoice, and of course T-mobile has the IMEI number. They probably don't sell stolen phone knowingly but whomever they bought it from either tole it or reported it stolen.
And as I stated above there is not Sprint here, I miss-wrote Sprint (which I had for six years until this round with T-Mobile).
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Lmao what a troll this one. 1 u cant use sprint phone on tmobile and even if u were using it on tmobile and sprint blocked it still it would let u use it on tmobile(although thats technically impossible) and as it regards negri they are very clean and dont give a **** about those $600 you paid for that device so they would never sell stolen phone since they have been in business for so long. You sound more like those assholes that order something and switch it with some crap device purchased on craigslist then blame it on the seller which in this case is negri. If i was u i would not even try to commit fraud but if u do i hope negri reports u to the authorities and they kick ur ass in prison because fraud is illegal.
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Tmobile won't do anything so your better off calling negri.
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sun365 said:
why don't you chill out.
no one can swap anything cause there is an IMEI number that on the invoice, and of course T-mobile has the IMEI number. They probably don't sell stolen phone knowingly but whomever they bought it from either tole it or reported it stolen.
And as I stated above there is not Sprint here, I miss-wrote Sprint (which I had for six years until this round with T-Mobile).
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Hahahaha sure hahahahahaha dude negri sells the latest smartphones in the market all people value negri for its customer service and its owner personally deals with every single order and out of who knows how many millions sales a year they make they need to sell u a stolen phone so can make a $600 straight profit? U remind me of this kid trying to screw with dailysteals and decided to post on xda saying he received an empty box and trying to make his claim kinda more believable. Anyway good luck i wont post again because iknow all u trying to do is grab some attention so that this becomes huge and possibly negri get scared that their image might get hurt if people hear about this
sun365 said:
I purchased a T-Mobile Galaxy S3 from Negri Electronics. I signed up with T-Mobile for service. It worked great for a few weeks. Then it suddenly stopped working, meaning no phone or data, the device itself of course works fine. So I called T-Mobile and they told me the phone has been blocked, that I should take it back to Negri. Negri is closed now. T-Mobile says if they block a phone it is for fraud or suchlike. What should I make of this? Is Negri selling stolen goods? Anyone here ever have a problem like this? What if Negri won't replace it?
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In all honesty, I think you're SOL if tmobile wouldn't do anything.
Do you have proof of purchase? Also does the receipt have the IMEI number? If so t-mobile ought to be able to help if you have this evidence.
and if that doesn't work..
I assume you're in MIAMI.. but if you happen to be in LA you can bring proof and your phone in person to the company.. not so sure how legit the location is but this is what pops up on google:
Address: 130 McCormick Ave, Suite 101, Costa Mesa, CA 92626
Phone: (888) 358-6358 x4
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Mon-Fri 7am–6pm
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Perhaps you work for Negri, or maybe you are just board and stupid but no one said that -
phone cost $600
that they would be making $600 profit if it was stolen
that they knew that it was stolen
The fact is that the phone has been reported stolen or something similar.
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Hahahaha sure hahahahahaha dude negri sells the latest smartphones in the market all people value negri for its customer service and its owner personally deals with every single order and out of who knows how many millions sales a year they make they need to sell u a stolen phone so can make a $600 straight profit? U remind me of this kid trying to screw with dailysteals and decided to post on xda saying he received an empty box and trying to make his claim kinda more believable. Anyway good luck i wont post again because iknow all u trying to do is grab some attention so that this becomes huge and possibly negri get scared that their image might get hurt if people hear about this
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You checked "Yes this is a question"
Guess where it belongs?
Moved to Q&A
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lazarat said:
Hahahaha sure hahahahahaha dude negri sells the latest smartphones in the market all people value negri for its customer service and its owner personally deals with every single order and out of who knows how many millions sales a year they make they need to sell u a stolen phone so can make a $600 straight profit? U remind me of this kid trying to screw with dailysteals and decided to post on xda saying he received an empty box and trying to make his claim kinda more believable. Anyway good luck i wont post again because iknow all u trying to do is grab some attention so that this becomes huge and possibly negri get scared that their image might get hurt if people hear about this
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Is that necessary? This guy has enough problems. You ever think it is for real? Man xda and the flaming is out of control. Mods will you do something already.
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Is that necessary? This guy has enough problems. You ever think it is for real? Man xda and the flaming is out of control. Mods will you do something already.
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Not disagreeing with your view if tmobike is not flaming.
OP, go straight to Negri. They will sort it out. Likely one of their distributors screwed up.
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I am in touch with Negri, they claim they will resolve it but are dragging their feet. Apparently I'm the only Negri customer with whom this has occurred .
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Not disagreeing with your view if tmobike is not flaming.
OP, go straight to Negri. They will sort it out. Likely one of their distributors screwed up.
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sun365 said:
I am in touch with Negri, they claim they will resolve it but are dragging their feet. Apparently I'm the only Negri customer with whom this has occurred .
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I'm not sure I believe that. I am pretty sure I read somewhere that this had happened to someone else, but it was a while ago. Negri resolved it but still, that's ****ty business.
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If they don't fix it, file a complaint with your credit card company and ask for you money back.
For sure.
They are saying they will fix it. First they wanted me to pay for return shipping! Hell no, you sell a faulty (stolen?) product and I pay for shipping it back! (Not saying they stole or knew it was stolen, but that the risk they take when they buy - if I wanted the risk I could have gone about it on Craigslist.) But I'm still very pissed off cause they finally sent me a label, and it was for FedEx Ground, very slow, so I have to be out for 2 weeks without a phone!
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If they don't fix it, file a complaint with your credit card company and ask for you money back.
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sun365 said:
I am in touch with Negri, they claim they will resolve it but are dragging their feet. Apparently I'm the only Negri customer with whom this has occurred .
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You are not the only one :`(

[Q]

So I wanted to buy myself a Galaxy s3 for T mobile, so I go on craigslist to buy a used one since I cannot afford a brand new one. I find one, meet the seller, and buy it since it was in excellent condition. 4 days later the phone stops working on the t mobile network. I thought it was because of a rom I had on it, but It wasn't. I called T mobile to see if there was something wrong with my service, and told me my phone was reported stolen and they blacklisted it from the network. Since I have the sellers number and the texts between him and myself, I thought I could prove to T mobile that I didn't steal the phone, but they insisted that they cannot help me and told me to file a report at the police station, like that gonna do anything.
So my question is, since the IMEI of the phone is blocked, is there a way I can change the IMEI to a generic one? Will that work? Only reason I am asking is because I cannot sell my phone, nobody is interested. I even unlocked for $20 and still won't sell. I bought it for 380, and the highest I've gotten on craigslist so far is 280. I don't know what to do. Any help is appreciated thanks.
Never mind, just found out generic IMEI doesn't work on t mobile anymore, bummer
sadakli2010 said:
So I wanted to buy myself a Galaxy s3 for T mobile, so I go on craigslist to buy a used one since I cannot afford a brand new one. I find one, meet the seller, and buy it since it was in excellent condition. 4 days later the phone stops working on the t mobile network. I thought it was because of a rom I had on it, but It wasn't. I called T mobile to see if there was something wrong with my service, and told me my phone was reported stolen and they blacklisted it from the network. Since I have the sellers number and the texts between him and myself, I thought I could prove to T mobile that I didn't steal the phone, but they insisted that they cannot help me and told me to file a report at the police station, like that gonna do anything.
So my question is, since the IMEI of the phone is blocked, is there a way I can change the IMEI to a generic one? Will that work? Only reason I am asking is because I cannot sell my phone, nobody is interested. I even unlocked for $20 and still won't sell. I bought it for 380, and the highest I've gotten on craigslist so far is 280. I don't know what to do. Any help is appreciated thanks.
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You are pretty much SOL man. There is NOTHING legal you can do to restore its service on T-Mobile. I would sell it as an ATT device. 280 is ridiculous though. Even if it doesnt work on T-Mobile, it WILL still work on any other GSM network.
Im really sorry dude. Maybe there is something that can be done legally through a lawyer or something since you have all the information stating you bought it. I mean, essentially what that guy did is 100% fraud.
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elesbb said:
You are pretty much SOL man. There is NOTHING legal you can do to restore its service on T-Mobile. I would sell it as an ATT device. 280 is ridiculous though. Even if it doesnt work on T-Mobile, it WILL still work on any other GSM network.
Im really sorry dude. Maybe there is something that can be done legally through a lawyer or something since you have all the information stating you bought it. I mean, essentially what that guy did is 100% fraud.
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It will not work on AT&T, T-Mobile and AT&T share the same blacklist database.
It isn't really worth going through the legal system over $380.
OP, how do you know the number the guy used just isn't some generated number from a free texting app. I would just sell it for $280 and take the $100 lost. Or track the guy down and beat the living crap out of him, but what are the chances of that?
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It will not work on AT&T, T-Mobile and AT&T share the same blacklist database.
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This is news to me. Thats kinda dumb. Everyone else who had the same situation as the OP says it works on ATT. For instance, Straight Talk on ATT. GoPhone.
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This thread should be closed! There is a bunch of people making threads on how they bought stolen phones on cl and cant use them! You cant trust any one on cl end of story! Take the loss and move on! There is nothing anyone here can do to help
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evil1art said:
This thread should be closed! There is a bunch of people making threads on how they bought stolen phones on cl and cant use them! You cant trust any one on cl end of story! Take the loss and move on! There is nothing anyone here can do to help
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I bought my galaxy s2 from Cl to this day (bought over a year ago) it would still work if I didn't break it.
It's a gamble.
But I don't see how it should be closed. It's not the OPs fault he had a douche bag sell him the phone. People don't need to be like that. He's just trying to make the best of his situation.
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The problems isn't craigslist per se , but its that the desperation out there is higher. People are willing to take risks to make money because they are broke, out of a job , etc. Not saying any of those are excuses to steal or commit fraud, but if a few people came on this thread and found out others are doing it, they are willing to try it also.
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We need a sticky on how to buy a phone on CL. You need to go to a T-Mobile store with the person before buying it (meet there) and have the rep check it out and conform hehe status and make a note on your account.
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That still is not guarantee. I have seen post where the phone was blacklisted 3 or 4 weeks later.
Too many people buying from CL .. They should look up phone scams on Google before buying
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That still is not guarantee. I have seen post where the phone was blacklisted 3 or 4 weeks later.
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Yeah...because they didn't go to a T-Mobile retail store and have a rep put a note of it on the sellers account.
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[Q] Phone with bad IMEI/ How to make most profit from it?

Ok, so due to new IMEI policy by t-mobile, this galaxy s4 I bought on craigslist brand new worked perfectly for 2 weeks and then the guy reported it stolen and got a new one (insurance fraud.) I'm having the man prosecuted, but that is largely for revenge purposes. Me getting my money back is slim chance. What should I do with the phone to make the most money to buy a new one? Can I sim unlock it and sell it for use on other carriers? Or are imei blocked on all? Can I break it down and sell parts? Do people buy those? haha. I'm just looking to make the best of a ****ty situation, help appreciated Thanks in advance
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Ok, so due to new IMEI policy by t-mobile, this galaxy s4 I bought on craigslist brand new worked perfectly for 2 weeks and then the guy reported it stolen and got a new one (insurance fraud.) I'm having the man prosecuted, but that is largely for revenge purposes. Me getting my money back is slim chance. What should I do with the phone to make the most money to buy a new one? Can I sim unlock it and sell it for use on other carriers? Or are imei blocked on all? Can I break it down and sell parts? Do people buy those? haha. I'm just looking to make the best of a ****ty situation, help appreciated Thanks in advance
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I think best is try to get it unlocked and sell it overseas.
Once AT&T and T-Mobile merge their blacklist it probably won't work on any US GSM carrier.
There is really no protection now for the second hand buyer when it comes to GSM phones. The original owner will most likely file a claim for the phone as being lost/stolen so they can profit and the buyer will always get boned in the end.
I say if you do buy a used phone, at least buy it on eBay. That way there is at least some accountability and the original owner would think twice before reporting the phone stolen/lost.
Dan37tz said:
I think best is try to get it unlocked and sell it overseas.
Once AT&T and T-Mobile merge their blacklist it probably won't work on any US GSM carrier.
There is really no protection now for the second hand buyer when it comes to GSM phones. The original owner will most likely file a claim for the phone as being lost/stolen so they can profit and the buyer will always get boned in the end.
I say if you do buy a used phone, at least buy it on eBay. That way there is at least some accountability and the original owner would think twice before reporting the phone stolen/lost.
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Think it will actually get purchased?
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Think it will actually get purchased?
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He is saying the future you should buy a used phone on eBay since you will get eBay and PayPal buyer protections.
If you are selling a phone with a bad IMEI you really should have a ton of documentation to support how you obtained the device. That means all the paperwork from the court about the prosecution you are involved in.
And this isn't a new policy by T Mobile. This is a long standing policy to black list phones with IMEI's that are reported stolen.
You also need to be careful when talking about how to sell and profit from a phone with a bad IMEI on XDA. It's a touchy subject here.
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I say if you do buy a used phone, at least buy it on eBay. That way there is at least some accountability and the original owner would think twice before reporting the phone stolen/lost.
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I purchased the S3 last year on eBay. The seller waited until after the 60 days were up (to be able to dispute on paypal) to report the phone stolen/lost. eBay was also of no help. So becareful!
Agent3 said:
I purchased the S3 last year on eBay. The seller waited until after the 60 days were up (to be able to dispute on paypal) to report the phone stolen/lost. eBay was also of no help. So becareful!
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That's why you use a credit card with a long dispute time.
Agent3 said:
I purchased the S3 last year on eBay. The seller waited until after the 60 days were up (to be able to dispute on paypal) to report the phone stolen/lost. eBay was also of no help. So becareful!
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But at least you have the record of the sale right? Couldn't you have gone to the T-Mobile store or called up CS and tell them you have proof that that you purchased the phone on eBay? Wouldn't T-Mobile help unblock it in your situation since you have proof with the seller information? You could have gone a few steps further and maybe get the police involved since you have nothing to worry about, you have proof of the transaction.
People like the ones you guys describe deserve to have both kneecaps broken.
Kind of makes me wonder about mine....I bought mine on CL. It was NIB. The dude bought it from Best Buy and brought it out to me. I took it home, popped my SIM in and Voila...Wonder if it would even be possible on mine since I don't think it was ever turned on on his.
hkbladelawhk said:
People like the ones you guys describe deserve to have both kneecaps broken.
Kind of makes me wonder about mine....I bought mine on CL. It was NIB. The dude bought it from Best Buy and brought it out to me. I took it home, popped my SIM in and Voila...Wonder if it would even be possible on mine since I don't think it was ever turned on on his.
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Yeah I got **** on. There are terrible people out there.
For people buying phones on Craigslist either for T mobile or AT&T ask the seller to meet you at a store and advise a sales person to notate their account that they are selling the phone. If seller is legit they will gladly go to the store with you.
That's what I did when I sold my S3 and Nexus 4. The sales person notated my account in front of buyer so that I can not report it for insurance fraud...
saldebot said:
For people buying phones on Craigslist either for T mobile or AT&T ask the seller to meet you at a store and advise a sales person to notate their account that they are selling the phone. If seller is legit they will gladly go to the store with you.
That's what I did when I sold my S3 and Nexus 4. The sales person notated my account in front of buyer so that I can not report it for insurance fraud...
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Wish I thought of that.
OP: What did you end up doing with the phone?
That's what I did when I traded my Note 2 for the S4. Haven't had any issues to date.
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Wish I thought of that.
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Good God that's brilliant! You win one internets!
I use to program my epic all the time, you could change the imei to a good one, however you'd need a donor phone and all of this is theorhetical.
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Shinydude100 said:
I use to program my epic all the time, you could change the imei to a good one, however you'd need a donor phone and all of this is theorhetical.
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Nothing about how to change imei's, regardless of you might use that ability for honest purposes, should ever be discussed on XDA at any time for any reason.
Any discussion about changing imei's is a big no-no on XDA. Its also illegal in most places in the world to mess with an imei, much like messing with the vin number on a car, no matter if you have a legitimate need to fix an old broken phone or not.
9 out of 10 people who will want to change an imei will want to do so for less than legal reasons. (Bought stolen phone. Stole phone. Want to sell a stolen phone, etc) XDA will not be a party to the distribution of that information as a result. So please do not discuss it here.
Thank you
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Skipjacks said:
Nothing about how to change imei's, regardless of you might use that ability for honest purposes, should ever be discussed on XDA at any time for any reason.
Any discussion about changing imei's is a big no-no on XDA. Its also illegal in most places in the world to mess with an imei, much like messing with the vin number on a car, no matter if you have a legitimate need to fix an old broken phone or not.
9 out of 10 people who will want to change an imei will want to do so for less than legal reasons. (Bought stolen phone. Stole phone. Want to sell a stolen phone, etc) XDA will not be a party to the distribution of that information as a result. So please do not discuss it here.
Thank you
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Thanks for understanding, disclaiming, and not attacking. I do indeed do it at my own risk/discretion, however I know what I'm doing. Either way, sorry op, that's literally the best I can do, and still be a good xda user, seek and ye shall find.
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Dan37tz said:
....Once AT&T and T-Mobile merge their blacklist it probably won't work on any US GSM carrier...
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they are not merging. Prolly never will either. Fcc shut that down awhile ago. It's metro PCs who just recently merged with T-Mobile.
But I do believe att and T-Mobile share a blacklist. Think this exact situation happened to a person on the s3 forums. Said they couldn't use it on att either.
But OP. Should be able to unlock and sell over seas. Try eBay. If no buyers then part it out. Screen and digitizer as one is a good 200 if not more.
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Just change out the IMEI
milesmarrero said:
Ok, so due to new IMEI policy by t-mobile, this galaxy s4 I bought on craigslist brand new worked perfectly for 2 weeks and then the guy reported it stolen and got a new one (insurance fraud.) I'm having the man prosecuted, but that is largely for revenge purposes. Me getting my money back is slim chance. What should I do with the phone to make the most money to buy a new one? Can I sim unlock it and sell it for use on other carriers? Or are imei blocked on all? Can I break it down and sell parts? Do people buy those? haha. I'm just looking to make the best of a ****ty situation, help appreciated Thanks in advance
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Just change out the IMEI number so it is not blacklisted. It is not illegal in the United States, and if any moron tells you it is ask him for the link to the law. You will not find one. I got mine fixed on ebay from a company called kingpin unlockers. It cost me 60 dollars and they did it remotely in less than 30 minutes. Remotely, yes i did not have to send my phone in anywhere. Just go to ebay and copy and paste the following text in the search box:
Bad IMEI ESN repair service Samsung T-MOBILE Galaxy S4 S 4 IV M919 Blacklisted
They do both att and tmobile and also do note 2 and s3 imei changes remotely.
boredndsm3 said:
Just change out the IMEI number so it is not blacklisted. It is not illegal in the United States, and if any moron tells you it is ask him for the link to the law. You will not find one. I got mine fixed on ebay from a company called kingpin unlockers. It cost me 60 dollars and they did it remotely in less than 30 minutes. Remotely, yes i did not have to send my phone in anywhere. Just go to ebay and copy and paste the following text in the search box:
Bad IMEI ESN repair service Samsung T-MOBILE Galaxy S4 S 4 IV M919 Blacklisted
They do both att and tmobile and also do note 2 and s3 imei changes remotely.
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Just take a look at the imei cloning laws before you talk about things you have no idea about. The only people that can legally change the IMEI is the OEM.
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Craiglslist safe?

Should I buy a note 3 off Craig's list or is it dangours. If its Eip I'm screw right?
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spodie said:
Should I buy a note 3 off Craig's list or is it dangours. If its Eip I'm screw right?
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it is safe as long as you meet in a public place like a Starbucks or something.
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You run the risk of buying a stolen devices or from a person who has been delequent on payments. For this reason, I would personally not buy and always will never buy any cellphones from craigslist. I see too many horror stories. But if you insist on buying Id make sure to ask the right questions before you buy and test the device before paying
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When I buy phone off Craig's I meet only at T-mobile store and have store clerks check with T-mobile Customer Service to make sure phone is paid off and not reported stolen, then I ask to notate my account that I am the owner of the phone now and it being paid for.
This way old owner has no legal right to claim it stolen, since he is right there present with me along with store of other witnesses.
djpaul said:
When I buy phone off Craig's I meet only at T-mobile store and have store clerks check with T-mobile Customer Service to make sure phone is paid off and not reported stolen, then I ask to notate my account that I am the owner of the phone now and it being paid for.
This way old owner has no legal right to claim it stolen, since he is right there present with me along with store of other witnesses.
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Never thought of doing it that away. Smart
Just sold my Note 2 on Craigslist. Went very smooth. Nice young lady. Even made a little extra cash unlocking it for her.
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Bought my note 3 on Craigslist. Easy transaction at a local Starbucks.
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No because even if you go to t mobile the phone is legit the person can later say the phone is stolen n then your phone is messed up
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No because even if you go to t mobile the phone is legit the person can later say the phone is stolen n then your phone is messed up
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Not If the imei is transferred to a different account. Also, if this is a concern you can get a signed sales record.
Plus AFAIK, they don't blacklist stolen phones anyway. There's been some pressure from government officials to make this happen. But I don't think there's been anything yet.
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Why not I bought one for 350 and I'm typing on it now lol
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I bought one for 550 and this Tuesday my service went out, when I called they told me my phone was reported lost. I just told the guy, I have it right here. And he unblocked it.
TRUE STORY:
I bought a phone from CL, met at a TMobile location, ask them to transfer the IMEI to my line. so far so good??
No... I used the phone for a few month and one morning, no more network. I try my ATT SIM and it works. I call TMobile, they tell me I need to change the SIM what I do, still nothing. I send the phone to Samsung, they dont see any issue.
Call back to TMo, they tell me the phone was declared stolen and there is NOTHING I can do because I am not the original buyer!! a complete RIP-OFF.
The worst is that they wont take any responsability
At least ATT transfer the number to your account as long as you have the info of the previous owner so the phone really belongs to you while TMobile just say there is nothing they can do.
I first believe this blacklist system would be a great thing to avoid stolen phones, but the way it is implemented is so wrong that the only looser is the guy at the end of the food chain.
If you buy from CL, ALWAYS ask for the original receipt!!!! if they dont have it, it is fishy! and if you can have a bill of sale
CarpeNoctem said:
TRUE STORY:
I bought a phone from CL, met at a TMobile location, ask them to transfer the IMEI to my line. so far so good??
No... I used the phone for a few month and one morning, no more network. I try my ATT SIM and it works. I call TMobile, they tell me I need to change the SIM what I do, still nothing. I send the phone to Samsung, they dont see any issue.
Call back to TMo, they tell me the phone was declared stolen and there is NOTHING I can do because I am not the original buyer!! a complete RIP-OFF.
The worst is that they wont take any responsability
At least ATT transfer the number to your account as long as you have the info of the previous owner so the phone really belongs to you while TMobile just say there is nothing they can do.
I first believe this blacklist system would be a great thing to avoid stolen phones, but the way it is implemented is so wrong that the only looser is the guy at the end of the food chain.
If you buy from CL, ALWAYS ask for the original receipt!!!! if they dont have it, it is fishy! and if you can have a bill of sale
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Seems like some folks are claiming insurance fraud then selling the phones then the IMEI becomes black listed - very bad ethically and morally.
I personally have sold a few of my old iphones and more recently Galaxy S4 with no paperwork. The person checks it out it works give me cash and then bye bye. I try and prevent giving them my receipts or documents as they contain personal information on them. However I would show them it if asked.
Just curious why would some people sell their note 3 craigs list and not return it under the 14 days? Perhaps they have an upgrade and want to cash it out for a profit?
rg1973 said:
Why not I bought one for 350 and I'm typing on it now lol
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350 for a note 3? that is crazy cheap. Must have purchased it under contract or something
Limeybastard said:
Seems like some folks are claiming insurance fraud then selling the phones then the IMEI becomes black listed - very bad ethically and morally.
I personally have sold a few of my old iphones and more recently Galaxy S4 with no paperwork. The person checks it out it works give me cash and then bye bye. I try and prevent giving them my receipts or documents as they contain personal information on them. However I would show them it if asked.
Just curious why would some people sell their note 3 craigs list and not return it under the 14 days? Perhaps they have an upgrade and want to cash it out for a profit?
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Yeah, they sell it for cash, but that doesn't make sense at all with T-Mobile now. Since you end up paying $700 for a phone. There is no point in selling it for $500 on craigslist unless you plan to commit fraud or whatever. Now, if it's contract like the other carriers, it makes sense and you can make a little bit of money.
All I can say is meet at the T-Mobile store and verify the phone is paid off. Then if possible (not sure if they would allow this) ask a T-Mo rep to make a note on the seller's account that the phone is being sold to your account and vice versa on your account. If the seller is okay with this, then it should give you a hint that he's a somewhat honest person, but anything can still happen. I say just buy the phone from T-Mobile, authorized retailer, or Newegg/Amazon.
DKYang said:
Yeah, they sell it for cash, but that doesn't make sense at all with T-Mobile now. Since you end up paying $700 for a phone. There is no point in selling it for $500 on craigslist unless you plan to commit fraud or whatever. Now, if it's contract like the other carriers, it makes sense and you can make a little bit of money.
All I can say is meet at the T-Mobile store and verify the phone is paid off. Then if possible (not sure if they would allow this) ask a T-Mo rep to make a note on the seller's account that the phone is being sold to your account and vice versa on your account. If the seller is okay with this, then it should give you a hint that he's a somewhat honest person, but anything can still happen. I say just buy the phone from T-Mobile, authorized retailer, or Newegg/Amazon.
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Good points raised. I was going to return mine and get a craigs list used T mobile version, but it ain't worth the 200 dollar or less saving for me. Like you mentioned why would they sell the t mobile one when they can get their money back from store minus 50 perhaps.
Bought mine for 600 yesterday it was still sealed I love this phone so much!
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You have to take precautions.
Have something in writing when buying or selling. Include the serial number and IMEI number then both sign it.
I have sold and bought a handful of phones with no problems. Yes I do consider myself lucky because stuff does happen.
Avoid PayPal and high check amount transactions. They are scams.
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I didn't know tmo had changed like this... I thought you could just pop in a sim card and be done... so now there like sprint and verizon with a id per phone?
Ya, I've seen several times, someone pays the initial down payment on a phone (or 0 down), sells the phone for full price, then defaults on the payment. The buyer usually doesn't find out for 3 months. Definitely meet at a store.
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