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samsung galaxy s3 locked by t-mobile.

Please help me with this problem, i bought 1 samsung galaxy s3 t999 of t-mobile from 1 guy on craiglist.com 3 months ago, for the 1st 3 months, the phones work fine, but just last 4 days, my phone can not call, text or internet (i used prepaid plan $50/month from t-mobile), then i called t-mobile technician support 5, 6 times, after all they said my phone locked by t-mobile, because the owner of the phone didn't pay the bills, they said my phone right now can not using anymore, except i can find the onwer, i tried some unlock code of some website on internet, but it didn't works, either, i hopfully anyone here can help me with this, thanks alot.

Odds are he bought the phone on EIP, sold it and pocketed the difference and just recently cancelled out his contract. Your best bet is probably to sell the phone on craigslist to someone not on T-Mobile. I haven't heard about any solution to this problem.

Only solution is to use it on at&t or another SIM company. Imei has been blocked out on T-Mobile network. That's what the code you bought is for. To use it with another carrier.
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You are screwed. Buy an unlock code, unlock it and use it on AT&T or sell it to someone that can.
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josh said it. close thread.

That sucks!... Where are u located??

Sorry it's locked and you won't (cant) use it on tmobile
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Now im concern too because i just got a bnew T999 s3 sealed for $450 on craigslist 2 weeks ago.. I hesitated at first because it's too cheap but seller needs the money badly she says so i bite because phone is sealed with no problems..
Should i be worried? i still have the sellers email and phone number, do you think its a good idea to ask her?.. Will it also work if i go to a t-mobile store and ask them to verify the imei of my purchased phone?
Thanks all in advance for the reply..

mikeetastic said:
Now im concern too because i just got a bnew T999 s3 sealed for $450 on craigslist 2 weeks ago.. I hesitated at first because it's too cheap but seller needs the money badly she says so i bite because phone is sealed with no problems..
Should i be worried? i still have the sellers email and phone number, do you think its a good idea to ask her?.. Will it also work if i go to a t-mobile store and ask them to verify the imei of my purchased phone?
Thanks all in advance for the reply..
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This seems to be happening more and more with new phones, and a reason that Ebay is a good option since they offer buyer (and seller) protection.
I am not saying you were scammed, but think of this:
You have the sellers temporary phone # she got from the local prepaid store, and an email she made that day? What is that going to do now? Do you know where the seller lives, or their real name? The two items you are saying you have may not be that effective to trace back to the seller.
However, I wish you the best of luck and no problems.

When will people learn.. 95% of the time Craigslist ='s bad.
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I bought my GS3 from craigslist except it was a refurbished model. I've only had it a couple days though...
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why does everyone worry about having a phone that is blocked ? unlock it and sell it or trade it.

kobe4rings said:
why does everyone worry about having a phone that is blocked ? unlock it and sell it or trade it.
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Because it makes you *the seller or trader* look suspicious? I'd never buy a phone that's been blacklisted.
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mikeetastic said:
Now im concern too because i just got a bnew T999 s3 sealed for $450 on craigslist 2 weeks ago.. I hesitated at first because it's too cheap but seller needs the money badly she says so i bite because phone is sealed with no problems..
Should i be worried? i still have the sellers email and phone number, do you think its a good idea to ask her?.. Will it also work if i go to a t-mobile store and ask them to verify the imei of my purchased phone?
Thanks all in advance for the reply..
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pytyper483 said:
This seems to be happening more and more with new phones, and a reason that Ebay is a good option since they offer buyer (and seller) protection.
I am not saying you were scammed, but think of this:
You have the sellers temporary phone # she got from the local prepaid store, and an email she made that day? What is that going to do now? Do you know where the seller lives, or their real name? The two items you are saying you have may not be that effective to trace back to the seller..
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Afaik eBay/paypal buyer protection covers you for 45days? But according to the OP it happen after 3 months... But yeah youre right if my seller reports that her phone got stolen or didnt pay her bill after a few days or months then im screwed???
kobe4rings said:
why does everyone worry about having a phone that is blocked ? unlock it and sell it or trade it.
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How much is the cheapest unlock code for my device? And where to get it? I dont usually buy expensive stuff on CL but this S3 i got is a steal... I might sell it now before it gives me headache in a few months..

If you are going to spend $400-500 on a phone from Craigslist, you might as well just save up for another $100-150 to buy it a from a reputable seller. IE Ebay, Amazon...etc.
But yah, phones on Craigslist = trouble.

Sorry to hear man.. i know your pain
Unlock the phone. Tmobile will even do it for you since they don't bother looking up the status of the phone when they ask you to. This happened to me before and it sucks, but that's what happens when you don't trust your gut. =/ (even sometimes when you do you're wrong)
SO
Unlock it.
Sell it to someone who can use it on ATT.
and get yourself a replacement through a better way..

Cheapest unlock ive found is 7.99 dollars on ebay. You have to let the person access your pc via remote access and let him unlock your connected phone via usb. search ebay "t999 unlock".

babymatteo said:
If you are going to spend $400-500 on a phone from Craigslist, you might as well just save up for another $100-150 to buy it a from a reputable seller. IE Ebay, Amazon...etc.
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i don't know about eBay since your only protected from Paypal for a few days after purchase and like the OP said it happened after 3 months.. and you cant even view the original ad/listing on eBay after 90 days..
arctic84 said:
Sorry to hear man.. i know your pain
Unlock the phone. Tmobile will even do it for you since they don't bother looking up the status of the phone when they ask you to. This happened to me before and it sucks, but that's what happens when you don't trust your gut. =/ (even sometimes when you do you're wrong)
SO
Unlock it.
Sell it to someone who can use it on ATT.
and get yourself a replacement through a better way..
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share your story? what happen? how many days did it last from purchase till T-Mobile blocking it?
will try to call or visit the store and see what can they do about unlocking my device, still fully functional right now and hoping that my seller really needs the money that's why she sold it @$450 and doesn't do anything to her account or or report it stolen...
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Cheapest unlock ive found is 7.99 dollars on ebay. You have to let the person access your pc via remote access and let him unlock your connected phone via usb. search ebay "t999 unlock".
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Thanks a lot.. giving the eBay seller a remote access is safe right? or maybe make a guest account to be more safer?

mikeetastic said:
i don't know about eBay since your only protected from Paypal for a few days after purchase and like the OP said it happened after 3 months.. and you cant even view the original ad/listing on eBay after 90 days..
share your story? what happen? how many days did it last from purchase till T-Mobile blocking it?
will try to call or visit the store and see what can they do about unlocking my device, still fully functional right now and hoping that my seller really needs the money that's why she sold it @$450 and doesn't do anything to her account or or report it stolen...
Thanks a lot.. giving the eBay seller a remote access is safe right? or maybe make a guest account to be more safer?
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Not to be a debbie downer, but if you got it for $450 when they sell for more it's likely going to be blacklisted. Everyone on CL says they need money.

So is this a new thing T-Mobile is doing, or a GSIII thang. Never heard of them being able to lock a phone out of the system because of a unpaid bill, if it was reported loss or stolen maybe, never heard of this till now tho
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[Q] T-Mobile Blocked Phone!

I purchased a T-Mobile Galaxy S3 from Negri Electronics. I signed up with T-Mobile for service. It worked great for a few weeks. Then it suddenly stopped working, meaning no phone or data, the device itself of course works fine. So I called T-Mobile and they told me the phone has been blocked, that I should take it back to Negri. Negri is closed now. T-Mobile says if they block a phone it is for fraud or suchlike. What should I make of this? Is Negri selling stolen goods? Anyone here ever have a problem like this? What if Negri won't replace it?

Inb4 lock
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sun365 said:
I purchased a Sprint Galaxy S3 from Negri Electronics. I signed up with Sprint for service. It worked great for a few weeks. Then it suddenly stopped working, meaning no phone or data, the device itself of course works fine. So I called Sprint and they told me the phone has been blocked, that I should take it back to Negri. Negri is closed now. T-Mobile says if they block a phone it is for fraud or suchlike. What should I make of this? Is Negri selling stolen goods? Anyone here ever have a problem like this? What if Negri won't replace it?
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I would contact Negri Electronics first. But it sounds like the phone was stolen.

Yeah phone must of been reported lost or stolen but why are u posting on the t-mobile s3 forms ?
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Cause this is a T-Mobile phone, I mistakenly wrote Sprint in the message (I now see).
slim1991 said:
Yeah phone must of been reported lost or stolen but why are u posting on the t-mobile s3 forms ?
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Lmao what a troll this one. 1 u cant use sprint phone on tmobile and even if u were using it on tmobile and sprint blocked it still it would let u use it on tmobile(although thats technically impossible) and as it regards negri they are very clean and dont give a **** about those $600 you paid for that device so they would never sell stolen phone since they have been in business for so long. You sound more like those assholes that order something and switch it with some crap device purchased on craigslist then blame it on the seller which in this case is negri. If i was u i would not even try to commit fraud but if u do i hope negri reports u to the authorities and they kick ur ass in prison because fraud is illegal.

You gotta be careful buying your phone from Nigerian princesses.
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why don't you chill out.
no one can swap anything cause there is an IMEI number that on the invoice, and of course T-mobile has the IMEI number. They probably don't sell stolen phone knowingly but whomever they bought it from either tole it or reported it stolen.
And as I stated above there is not Sprint here, I miss-wrote Sprint (which I had for six years until this round with T-Mobile).
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Lmao what a troll this one. 1 u cant use sprint phone on tmobile and even if u were using it on tmobile and sprint blocked it still it would let u use it on tmobile(although thats technically impossible) and as it regards negri they are very clean and dont give a **** about those $600 you paid for that device so they would never sell stolen phone since they have been in business for so long. You sound more like those assholes that order something and switch it with some crap device purchased on craigslist then blame it on the seller which in this case is negri. If i was u i would not even try to commit fraud but if u do i hope negri reports u to the authorities and they kick ur ass in prison because fraud is illegal.
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Tmobile won't do anything so your better off calling negri.
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sun365 said:
why don't you chill out.
no one can swap anything cause there is an IMEI number that on the invoice, and of course T-mobile has the IMEI number. They probably don't sell stolen phone knowingly but whomever they bought it from either tole it or reported it stolen.
And as I stated above there is not Sprint here, I miss-wrote Sprint (which I had for six years until this round with T-Mobile).
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Hahahaha sure hahahahahaha dude negri sells the latest smartphones in the market all people value negri for its customer service and its owner personally deals with every single order and out of who knows how many millions sales a year they make they need to sell u a stolen phone so can make a $600 straight profit? U remind me of this kid trying to screw with dailysteals and decided to post on xda saying he received an empty box and trying to make his claim kinda more believable. Anyway good luck i wont post again because iknow all u trying to do is grab some attention so that this becomes huge and possibly negri get scared that their image might get hurt if people hear about this

sun365 said:
I purchased a T-Mobile Galaxy S3 from Negri Electronics. I signed up with T-Mobile for service. It worked great for a few weeks. Then it suddenly stopped working, meaning no phone or data, the device itself of course works fine. So I called T-Mobile and they told me the phone has been blocked, that I should take it back to Negri. Negri is closed now. T-Mobile says if they block a phone it is for fraud or suchlike. What should I make of this? Is Negri selling stolen goods? Anyone here ever have a problem like this? What if Negri won't replace it?
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In all honesty, I think you're SOL if tmobile wouldn't do anything.
Do you have proof of purchase? Also does the receipt have the IMEI number? If so t-mobile ought to be able to help if you have this evidence.
and if that doesn't work..
I assume you're in MIAMI.. but if you happen to be in LA you can bring proof and your phone in person to the company.. not so sure how legit the location is but this is what pops up on google:
Address: 130 McCormick Ave, Suite 101, Costa Mesa, CA 92626
Phone: (888) 358-6358 x4
Hours:
Mon-Fri 7am–6pm
Sat-Sun Closed

Perhaps you work for Negri, or maybe you are just board and stupid but no one said that -
phone cost $600
that they would be making $600 profit if it was stolen
that they knew that it was stolen
The fact is that the phone has been reported stolen or something similar.
lazarat said:
Hahahaha sure hahahahahaha dude negri sells the latest smartphones in the market all people value negri for its customer service and its owner personally deals with every single order and out of who knows how many millions sales a year they make they need to sell u a stolen phone so can make a $600 straight profit? U remind me of this kid trying to screw with dailysteals and decided to post on xda saying he received an empty box and trying to make his claim kinda more believable. Anyway good luck i wont post again because iknow all u trying to do is grab some attention so that this becomes huge and possibly negri get scared that their image might get hurt if people hear about this
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You checked "Yes this is a question"
Guess where it belongs?
Moved to Q&A
FNM

lazarat said:
Hahahaha sure hahahahahaha dude negri sells the latest smartphones in the market all people value negri for its customer service and its owner personally deals with every single order and out of who knows how many millions sales a year they make they need to sell u a stolen phone so can make a $600 straight profit? U remind me of this kid trying to screw with dailysteals and decided to post on xda saying he received an empty box and trying to make his claim kinda more believable. Anyway good luck i wont post again because iknow all u trying to do is grab some attention so that this becomes huge and possibly negri get scared that their image might get hurt if people hear about this
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Is that necessary? This guy has enough problems. You ever think it is for real? Man xda and the flaming is out of control. Mods will you do something already.
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belial20xx said:
Is that necessary? This guy has enough problems. You ever think it is for real? Man xda and the flaming is out of control. Mods will you do something already.
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Not disagreeing with your view if tmobike is not flaming.
OP, go straight to Negri. They will sort it out. Likely one of their distributors screwed up.
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I am in touch with Negri, they claim they will resolve it but are dragging their feet. Apparently I'm the only Negri customer with whom this has occurred .
joshnichols189 said:
Not disagreeing with your view if tmobike is not flaming.
OP, go straight to Negri. They will sort it out. Likely one of their distributors screwed up.
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sun365 said:
I am in touch with Negri, they claim they will resolve it but are dragging their feet. Apparently I'm the only Negri customer with whom this has occurred .
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I'm not sure I believe that. I am pretty sure I read somewhere that this had happened to someone else, but it was a while ago. Negri resolved it but still, that's ****ty business.
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If they don't fix it, file a complaint with your credit card company and ask for you money back.

For sure.
They are saying they will fix it. First they wanted me to pay for return shipping! Hell no, you sell a faulty (stolen?) product and I pay for shipping it back! (Not saying they stole or knew it was stolen, but that the risk they take when they buy - if I wanted the risk I could have gone about it on Craigslist.) But I'm still very pissed off cause they finally sent me a label, and it was for FedEx Ground, very slow, so I have to be out for 2 weeks without a phone!
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If they don't fix it, file a complaint with your credit card company and ask for you money back.
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sun365 said:
I am in touch with Negri, they claim they will resolve it but are dragging their feet. Apparently I'm the only Negri customer with whom this has occurred .
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You are not the only one :`(

Galaxy S4 from Craigslist - IMEI Blacklisted...options?

Hi All,
I searched and saw many threads about a similar problem, but my specific question is what can I do about this as far as getting rid of the phone? I learned my lesson the hard way - I dropped my HTC One and broke it a day before a business trip and I needed a phone. I am planning on switching to T-mobile in a month when my AT&T contract is up, so I decided to purchase a T-mobile variant of the Galaxy S4 on Craigslist. It was new, sealed, and cost $500 from what seemed like a somewhat reputable seller.
I got the phone and all was great. It was unlocked and worked perfectly with my AT&T SIM. I got home from the business trip, put in a T-mobile prepaid SIM card (so I could test the service at my house before switching) and got the dreaded "Not registered on network" error message when I tried to make a call. Sure enough, T-mobile said the IMEI had been blacklisted for "fraudulent activity." I believe the seller opened an account and then simply didn't pay the bill for the phone. I've bought quite a few used phones, but I learned my lesson this time. I even asked T-mobile if I could pay the remaining balance, or if they even wanted the phone back. I received a prompt "no" to each question. I asked if the phone was "stolen" and they said no as well - it was marked as fraudulent, but not lost of stolen. Whatever they want to call it, it don't work!
So my question is this (and sorry for the long-winded vent): can I sell this phone? I just want it gone. I look at it and I get angry and upset with myself for making this mistake. I know I will lose a ton of $$$, but I would rather sell it on eBay while FULLY disclosing the phone's history and let someone overseas use it or someone on AT&T use it. Am I violating any rules by doing this as long as I fully disclose everything I know? Also, if this is the wrong forum, I apologize. Thank you for any insight and to save you all the trouble - yes I screwed up and I'm an idiot. But, I'm not the thief here. I sure wish I could get a hole of the seller!
-Collin-

i had the same happen to me this weekend i bought a sealed s4 from cl i also payed 500$ it was for great for 3 weeks up until this weekend i wasn;t getting 4g data so i called tmobile and they told me that that they blocked the imei sue to the person deciding not to pay for the phone..i learned my lesson NEVER TO BUY any phones from Cl. i went to the store and paid retail price for a s4 and i have the receipt just in case tmobile comes back and try to screw me
CollinFX45 said:
Hi All,
I searched and saw many threads about a similar problem, but my specific question is what can I do about this as far as getting rid of the phone? I learned my lesson the hard way - I dropped my HTC One and broke it a day before a business trip and I needed a phone. I am planning on switching to T-mobile in a month when my AT&T contract is up, so I decided to purchase a T-mobile variant of the Galaxy S4 on Craigslist. It was new, sealed, and cost $500 from what seemed like a somewhat reputable seller.
I got the phone and all was great. It was unlocked and worked perfectly with my AT&T SIM. I got home from the business trip, put in a T-mobile prepaid SIM card (so I could test the service at my house before switching) and got the dreaded "Not registered on network" error message when I tried to make a call. Sure enough, T-mobile said the IMEI had been blacklisted for "fraudulent activity." I believe the seller opened an account and then simply didn't pay the bill for the phone. I've bought quite a few used phones, but I learned my lesson this time. I even asked T-mobile if I could pay the remaining balance, or if they even wanted the phone back. I received a prompt "no" to each question. I asked if the phone was "stolen" and they said no as well - it was marked as fraudulent, but not lost of stolen. Whatever they want to call it, it don't work!
So my question is this (and sorry for the long-winded vent): can I sell this phone? I just want it gone. I look at it and I get angry and upset with myself for making this mistake. I know I will lose a ton of $$$, but I would rather sell it on eBay while FULLY disclosing the phone's history and let someone overseas use it or someone on AT&T use it. Am I violating any rules by doing this as long as I fully disclose everything I know? Also, if this is the wrong forum, I apologize. Thank you for any insight and to save you all the trouble - yes I screwed up and I'm an idiot. But, I'm not the thief here. I sure wish I could get a hole of the seller!
-Collin-
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Hey Collin. I had a similar issue with an HTC one being blacklisted but thankfully I bought it from eBay and their buyers protection came into play and I got a full refund. Because blacklisting is a very effective way to lose a heck load of money, I now suggest not getting phones from craisgslist or actually meeting at a carrier store to check phone status before the purchase is made. I'd stick to buying on eBay or swappa..now my suggestion is selling the phone overseas where the blocked imei doesn't really work. That would be the best option for now and you'll lose money but because it is basically a relatively new phone, you should not loose too much. Hope this helps.
-piterson
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Thank you guys for the thoughts. It's terrible that this sort of thing happens and personally, I wouldn't risk jail for 500 bucks. Hell, I wouldn't risk jail for any amount of money. It just blows me away that these people do this.
I guess what I will likely do is list it on eBay internationally with a full disclosure. Thankfully, my HTC One repair is finally complete and the phone should be back in my hands any day now. But, it's the developer edition and doesn't work well on T-mobile, so I'm back to square one for a T-mobile phone!
Anyway, sorry that this happened to you guys as well. It's just not as simple as it used to be, is it. Though I guess blacklisting has been used for a while now.
-Collin-

i listed mine on ebay with full disclosure and its not looking good..so far i have 4 days left in the auction and 1 day has passed & no one bid on it yet lol your best bet to purchase a new phone is go straight through tmobile unless you want to risk swappa or ebay then a month later if they cancel or don;t pay for the phone for it to happen again ... i would n;t risk it
CollinFX45 said:
Thank you guys for the thoughts. It's terrible that this sort of thing happens and personally, I wouldn't risk jail for 500 bucks. Hell, I wouldn't risk jail for any amount of money. It just blows me away that these people do this.
I guess what I will likely do is list it on eBay internationally with a full disclosure. Thankfully, my HTC One repair is finally complete and the phone should be back in my hands any day now. But, it's the developer edition and doesn't work well on T-mobile, so I'm back to square one for a T-mobile phone!
Anyway, sorry that this happened to you guys as well. It's just not as simple as it used to be, is it. Though I guess blacklisting has been used for a while now.
-Collin-
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Romcrazguy said:
i listed mine on ebay with full disclosure and its not looking good..so far i have 4 days left in the auction and 1 day has passed & no one bid on it yet lol your best bet to purchase a new phone is go straight through tmobile unless you want to risk swappa or ebay then a month later if they cancel or don;t pay for the phone for it to happen again ... i would n;t risk it
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That's a bummer. Did you list it internationally? I know you probably can't link to eBay, but can you give me the auction number? I want to watch and cheer you on
-Collin-

There are services on ebay that will change the IMEI for $50.

lancemoreland said:
There are services on ebay that will change the IMEI for $50.
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I appreciate that information. Unfortunately from my limited research, I think this thread will get locked if we even go down that road since it is illegal. Argh.
-Collin-

Wow. that sucks so much. The worst I have experienced in craigslist is some guy tried to scam me out of an iPod touch that i found. I still remember the email. It said something along the lines of:
Can you please send this device to my son in Africa? I will pay you full price for the phone + $50 dollars of shipping!
I knew it was a fake because 1) the email they sent was a very random email. (like [email protected]) and 2) PHONE? it's not a phone. thats how i knew that he was scamming multiple people and just copying and pasting.
Oh craigslist is full of scammers and idiots.

Yeah that's what these scammers are doing, buy the phone on a payment plan and not make the payment. A lot of times unknowing buyers get the phone and it will work for a month till payment is due but not paid. I see great deals on CL but steer clear.

The best thing to do is unlocked the device and sell it Internationally via eBay. I have a GS3 in my possesion that my wife's little brother bought from CL and was later blacklisted since the person reported it stolen two hours later after he took the cash.

lancemoreland said:
There are services on ebay that will change the IMEI for $50.
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He is right it is illegal and if caught could face jail time.
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i just got a s4 on ebay for 420 i call tmobile they told the imei is clean that dont worry about future non payment fraud or blacklisted the lady told me when i get the phone is going to be in my account so the owner will have to pay any remaining balance but they cannot block the phone idk know im worry

Whenever I buy something from craiglist I always ask for 2 valid ID and have them photocopy.

I'll buy it for parts. If interested inbox me. Thanks!

I had the same damn thing happen but with a Galaxy S2 a while back. What I had to do is buy a used motherboard from a cracked screen one on eBay. Spent way more on the phone than I intended but all I did was switch the motherboards and voila. Good as new.
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Just sell try and sell it on Craigslist and ebay. Specify that it is blacklisted with tmobile but it ia unlocked so you can use it with att. Here's one and it's at almost 300 with 17h left on the auction
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200948373767
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elflip88 said:
Just sell try and sell it on Craigslist and ebay. Specify that it is blacklisted with tmobile but it ia unlocked so you can use it with att. Here's one and it's at almost 300 with 17h left on the auction
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200948373767
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I read not long ago that AT&T and T-Mobile started sharing IMEI blacklist. Not sure if the policy is in effect yet or not.

baseballfanz said:
I read not long ago that AT&T and T-Mobile started sharing IMEI blacklist. Not sure if the policy is in effect yet or not.
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Op said he used it on att network so my guess is no
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rona809 said:
i just got a s4 on ebay for 420 i call tmobile they told the imei is clean that dont worry about future non payment fraud or blacklisted the lady told me when i get the phone is going to be in my account so the owner will have to pay any remaining balance but they cannot block the phone idk know im worry
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No.
Walk away.

Tips buying a T-Mobile note 3 on Craigslist?

Any tips or suggestions on how I can buy a tmobile note 3? How can I be sure it's a good esn/imei without it being reported stolen from tmobile?
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snoopycr said:
Any tips or suggestions on how I can buy a tmobile note 3? How can I be sure it's a good esn/imei without it being reported stolen from tmobile?
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My best advice would be to ask the seller if he/ she would be willing to meet at a T-mobile location to make sure the handset is legitimate. Tell the seller a friend or relative of yours was ripped off in the past and you just want to make sure. Best of luck to you friend.
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Meet in a Tmobile store and have the seller have the tmobile rep look at their account and verify the phone is not on an equipment installment plan and the imei is not reported as lost or stolen. Also get a signed recepiet (with both parties printed name and the description of the item sold)from the seller stating they sold you the phone. There are many stories where a phone is reported lost or stolen after the sale and after the imei was checked to be in good standing.
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If meeting at a store isn't possible you can call T-Mobile and have them switch it over to you over the phone while standing there with the guy before any money exchanges hands.

Shouldnt there be less problems with this now? I mean, even if someone cancels, they are charged the remaining value on the phone, right? So none of these phones should be blacklisted at all, ever. I mean, they cant make you pay if you leave and still blacklist the phone. Even if u never pay the final bill, if its even on your credit report, you're responsible for it. Is my train of thought here wrong?

tony yayo said:
Shouldnt there be less problems with this now? I mean, even if someone cancels, they are charged the remaining value on the phone, right? So none of these phones should be blacklisted at all, ever. I mean, they cant make you pay if you leave and still blacklist the phone. Even if u never pay the final bill, if its even on your credit report, you're responsible for it. Is my train of thought here wrong?
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Tmo will block the phone until the bill is paid in full. So if they never pay the bill with the phone balance due the phone bought will not work. And now tmo and att share a blcklist so cant use it on att network either. Also as stated even after the sale some people report the phone as lost or stolen and claim a warranty on it making the phone sold useless.
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blakkheartt12 said:
Tmo will block the phone until the bill is paid in full. So if they never pay the bill with the phone balance due the phone bought will not work. And now tmo and att share a blcklist so cant use it on att network either. Also as stated even after the sale some people report the phone as lost or stolen and claim a warranty on it making the phone sold useless.
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What happens when the bill goes to collections? Tmo gets paid by the collection agency but when the collectors get paid will they unblock the phone?
Besides, if they were to report it stolen 2 months later, who would believe you would wait 2 months to report a stolen $700 phone?

tony yayo said:
What happens when the bill goes to collections? Tmo gets paid by the collection agency but when the collectors get paid will they unblock the phone?
Besides, if they were to report it stolen 2 months later, who would believe you would wait 2 months to report a stolen $700 phone?
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Apparently people do. Just search on xda for phone stop working or phone doesnt get service after working for a few months (there were a lot of threads like that in the tmo note 2 forum). Many said tmo wont unblock it until the original owner pays it off. They wont even allow you to pay it off if you wanted to. So its better to have all the evidence as possible that the phone was sold to you.
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I personally wouldn't buy new T-Mo phone on craigslist nowa days, and I would be super careful and do due diligence when purchasing on eBay. Even eBay is subject to these issues, just look at how many people are selling Note 3(s) on eBay that are listed as having bad IMEI(s). Why do you think that is? People are are doing multiple different scams and such that involve the IMEI getting blacklisted after a while.
One involves people selling the phones and then not paying their bill after it was purchased on a payment plan. Once they don't pay their bill they blacklist the IMEI. The ONLY way to unblacklist the IMEI is for the original purchaser to pay their payment plan bill. Even if you legitimately purchased the phone they will not unblock it for you. I know of more then one person that has tried to resolve this with ZERO success. Going to a T-Mobile store to do the transaction will not help in this situation because often the account is not in a negative standing yet and doesn't happen till a later date. The only thing a T-Mobile store can help with is identifying if the phone is stolen or not, which doesn't help with these latest scams.
The only way to avoid this is to 100% make sure that the phone you purchased was paid for in full at full price and not on a payment plan. Even then I have heard of sellers providing photoshopped receipts to buyers only to get their phones blacklisted months or weeks later because the phones were not really paid off. One might think that eBay is safer from a seller that has feedback but no not really. Often by the time you get blacklisted you cannot leave bad feedback or file a dispute. However with that said, most card companies (VISA, MC, ETC) allow you to do a chargeback within six months of a purchase if its some type of fraud that happened as a result.
The other way involves a more scammy way that I will not explain, with again the outcome being a blacklisted phone that the 2nd purchaser cannot resolve. However these are happening all over the place and there's not a sure fire way to avoid it. The best way to avoid this is to simply buy a phone directly from a authorized seller like T-Mo, or to trust your buyer 100%.
Just saying.

There is no way to be 100% sure that a T-Mobile phone is a safe bet, unless it is coming from someone you trust.
Even if you go to a store with the seller and verify that the phone is fully paid for, they still have 30 days from the incident date to report it stolen or lost if they have insurance or JUMP! Yes it is fraud, but it is almost impossible to combat. Police will record your incident and file it, but will not actively pursue a situation such as this in most cases. T-Mobile will suggest that you contact your local police and will not do anything to help you.
Another note: If you call or go into a store and ask them to check the IMEI number, they can't give you information regarding financing unless the phone is being financed under your name or a authorized account manager. You will need the phone seller to go in to the store to verify this information for you.
I'm sure there are plenty of people out there trying to sell their TMO phones honestly, but do you want to take a high percentage chance that you are being ripped off? That percentage rises if the phone is brand new selling at a huge discount. EX. Craigslist in my city shows a guy selling 4 TMO Note 3's brand new for 550.00 each. I can almost guarantee that those phones will be blacklisted sooner or later.

buy it on swappa

There is a certain amount of risk involved. It all depends on how good of a deal you get. I've bought quite a few phones from CL then sold later on Ebay. Right now I'm using a Note 3 bought on CL for $400. I could sell it with a bad IMEI on Ebay and still make a good profit. I always disclose in my auction that the phone has been verified as clean at the time of sale but that could change in the future since I don't know the history of the phone. it doesn't seem to stop people from buying the phones.
Just last weekend I found a great deal on a S4 international version, or so I thought. After getting home and messing with it I found out it was a fake! The owner never answered my calls or texts, go figure. I was able to sell it on Ebay fully disclosed as a fake and only take about a $40 hit. If you're going to use CL you better be willing to take some risk.
Also my research leads me to belive that Tmo and att do not SHARE blacklist info for phones that the bill is not paid on, only units reported lost or stolen. Nobody had been able to prove to me they do. Since I use Straight Talk with att sim card that eliminates some risk of my phone becoming blacklisted. In my mind anyhow it makes me feel better!
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snoopycr said:
Any tips or suggestions on how I can buy a tmobile note 3? How can I be sure it's a good esn/imei without it being reported stolen from tmobile?
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Best way to buy it is to PRESUME the phone you are buying is ALREADY blacklisted. Next is to buy it at the lowest price you think it fair. For example, I bought a Note 3 T-Mobile from craighstlist for 525. The guy said it had a clean IMEI but I was skeptical of it but since it was at 525, I could not have cared less since I was planning on using it with AT&T. I later unlocked it using RegionLock Away and everything is SMOOTH. Love the phone.

i wouldnt trust craigslist.. i had bought a phone on it that i thought worked. when i came home it bricked.

Just thought I'd share my craigslist experience this morning. I wanted to post a screenshot but cannot for some reason so copy and pastiing.
Me: you still got the note 4 for sale?
Him: yes
Me: Can you provide a reciept to show that its fulky paid for and a bill of sale with your name and id number? I'm just trying to avoid insurance scammers.
Him: It's not fully paid off. I just got the phone because it came with the line which is all i needed at no additional cost to me.
Him: But I'm not eligible for insurance because I've used my two for the year up already.
Me: Well if you're selling a phone that isn't fully paid off tmobile will block it when you stop making payments. Which makes the phine useless and you're trying to sell it is fraud.
Me: lol good luck man
Him: Umm your wrong
Him: but ok
Funny how his insurance is already used up, i wonder what became of those phones hmmm. So I would encourage anybody buying off craigslist to ask the same questions i did. They're are some genuine sellers i buy and sell from Craigslist all the time.

Make sure the box is a genuine t-mobile box the phone will set in a recessed form fitted area and not just on top of flat paper.

[Q] Just got scammed and now my Note 4 is on the blacklist..

Hi, I bought a new Verizon Note 4 off craigslist about a week ago
and everything was working fine until today...
I checked the imei and it says it's been reported stolen.
I tried to get a hold of the seller but no reply
and now I don't know what to do... I'm new at this, not tech savvy at all
but i heard it's basically an expensive mp3 player now?
any help would be great.
thanks

Sorry to say bro, if it's been reported stolen, you're out of luck. At least you'll have one of the best Mp3/media player out right now.
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Sorry to hear that. What you can do now is remove the SIM and using wifi. You could install GrooveIP or Hangout dialer from the market to make phone call over wifi and of course a very good MP3 player OR you can try to sell it in Ebay, even with a bad IME you should get a few hundreds bucks for it. Make sure you listed with a bad IME or Ebay will come after you.

strave24 said:
Hi, I bought a new Verizon Note 4 off craigslist about a week ago
and everything was working fine until today...
I checked the imei and it says it's been reported stolen.
I tried to get a hold of the seller but no reply
and now I don't know what to do... I'm new at this, not tech savvy at all
but i heard it's basically an expensive mp3 player now?
any help would be great.
thanks
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A very expensive mp3
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Sorry to hear that. Can you report it to the police and have them do an investigation of the person who sold it to you on Craigslist? That really sucks.
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was the deal "too good to be true?"

One way to prevent this somewhat is to call Verizon and have them officially transfer the IMEI to your account and remove it from the old owners instead of just swapping a sim card in. Whenever I have done craigslist deals this is how I do it and so far so good...

Sounds like he reported it stolen right after selling it to you. That's the bad thing about craigslist, is there likely isn't a paper trail. I always use the PayPal app and gift the funds or pay an add'l 3% for extra protection. Leave a note on the transaction saying what it's for, in your case I would've included the IMEI to show you purchased it (assuming it was actually his phone and he didn't steal it before selling it to you). I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to contact you about the stolen phone. It probably had insurance so either the seller (or original owner if seller stole it) made a claim with Asurion.

I'd like to add that you should request to see the receipt to prove that the device is not financed.

tuxdreamerx said:
One way to prevent this somewhat is to call Verizon and have them officially transfer the IMEI to your account and remove it from the old owners instead of just swapping a sim card in. Whenever I have done craigslist deals this is how I do it and so far so good...
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This is a great idea. :thumbup:
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phone is sim unlocked might work on prepaid AT&T maybe.
Good luck.

tuxdreamerx said:
One way to prevent this somewhat is to call Verizon and have them officially transfer the IMEI to your account and remove it from the old owners instead of just swapping a sim card in. Whenever I have done craigslist deals this is how I do it and so far so good...
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Mojar7070 said:
This is a great idea. :thumbup:
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Great in theory, yes. But anyone who was using the device, as long as the IMEI registered to their account, can blacklist it. If you had a phone that you bought used and were legitimately using, and someone legitimately stole it, you'd wanna report it lost or stolen, right..? You wouldn't want the thief to be able to use it just because he called in and had the IMEI officially transferred...

Sell it to someone else

Test it with a sim card from T-Mobile or AT&T and if it works, buy a new back cover for the appropriate carrier and resell it on craigslist as a T-Mobile or AT&T phone.

was the imei good when you got the phone?

Damn that's not cool I've been dealing with Craigslist for years and never had this happen. I always meet at Verizon and have a rep do the transfer even though it's technically not required. That way if there's any funny business you have a paper trail and record from Verizon that the account owner sold you the phone (requires I.d. when doing it ).just try and sell it on ebay with bad imei as others said if it can still be used on t mo or att then you should at least be able to get 400 for it just be honest about the imei.

No response yet from the OP on the questions ask about his phone....

You can sale it as unlocked, works on the mobile. When I get bad meid devices, I sale them to people wanting to use them on MetroPCS.
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That's why I pop a sim into it right away. Once it's activated on your line, you're set. I had a guy try to do this to me. I even called Verizon to leave a note on my account that some guy was trying to report my phone stolen.
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This is why Swappa.com is the best.
*Not to mention every device I have personally sold has sold in under 8 hours total..