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So here's a typical day with WP7.
Wake up, unplug phone from PC. I had left it to sync overnight, because for some reason Zune wasn't syncing a particular photos subfolder (1), so I removed the whole lot and resynced over 6,000 photos while I slept. Found the phone was only half-charged (2). Plugged it into the mains while I got ready for work.
Saw there was an update for Board Express Pro, downloaded it but it failed, as I'm using the trial (3).
As I left for work, I went to hit PLAY on my music, expecting to carry on listening to the music I had last night, but in the dropdown music controls, it displayed just a blank. So I had to reselect the album (4).
On the train, sat at the station waiting to leave, I went to access Game Chest: Logic Games to make my next chess move in the ongoing game against my wife. The phone spent ages starting up the game, then informed me, despite having a 3G connection, that it couldn't connect to the game (5). Tried two or three more times (6). No dice. Decided to try Alphajax, but on starting that up, it complained it couldn't obtain push notifications (7). It asked me to restart my phone, which I did (8). The restart got stuck at the "Windows Phone" splash screen for about two minutes - it normally takes a couple of seconds, so that was a worry (9). Eventually I got my home screen, so I went back into Alphajax and got the same message again (10). So no push updates any more for that game. Went back to my home screen and noticed that I'm also not getting tile updates for either Flixster (11) or Flickr (12). Decided to play a bit of Sudoku (Game Chest: Logic Games). I always use a bluetooth headset, and partway through the game something happened and the sounds stopped coming through (13). I had to go into SETTINGS and disconnect my headset, then reconnect to get it working again (14).
I went into Marketplace to look for an app to keep my ten-pin bowling scores in. I found a couple, but they both keep the scores on the phone with no way to sync to my PC or to the cloud, hence they're useless because if my phone breaks, gets stolen or hard resets itself, I stand to lose the entire bowling score history that I'd have inputted to the app (15). So I knocked up a spreadsheet and emailed it to my phone (no easy way to get it onto the phone (16)). When I opened the sheet on the phone, I found just about all the formatting had vanished and several of the centered headings were invisible (17). So I made up my mind to keep my scores in a notebook while bowling and enter them into a spreadsheet on my PC when I get home. So much for smartphones (18).
Now I'm at work, writing this, and have experienced 18 annoyances with my phone in the space of just four hours.
I am seriously starting to get sick of it.
I think I'm on the cusp of going to try out Android! Save me!
The fact is.. we are early adopters. Yes.
And we all know that we would have a problematic phone in our hands when we bought WP7. Then why did I buy this?
Because I was faithful that Microsoft was not going to blow it up. I thought MS was going to update, fix bugs, and try their best, since they have the nicest phone right now.
It's not the bugs that annoy me. It is the fact that the January update turns out to be an April update (yeah, we are 22 March and nothing until now).
And it doens't fix a quarter the problems that we can found in the list of bugs thread.
I share your pain and frustration.
Yesterday I caught myself looking at Nexus S. I'm worried ;/
Still.. since I've balls, I'll stand and wait some more for MS do something useful in this life (oh, yeah, they do sometimes.. Xbox, Win7..)
Don't abandon us!
I don't believe the phone charges while it is in the process of syncing over USB, only when it is in standby, it has been discussed a few times. If you just synced, obviously it accessed your music, so how can you expect it to have not prevented you from accessing it, it does that as a precautionary measure. The trial issue has been discussed a variety of times as well, It's been fixed in NoDo. The games and push notifications could be device specific, as you're the 3rd person I've seen mention this. I use my SkyDrive to move files, or email, I don't see how that isn't "easy." As far as the formatting, good luck finding perfect formatting on Android...
You see, there's no one thing with WP7 that in itself is enough to make me abandon it. It's just the daily grind of all those annoyances that continually grate on me. I'm always sat next to someone playing with their iPhone or Android or Blackberry and some of the time as I'm whizzing through WP7s tiles or playing with some jazzy app I can see them glance over at my phone....and then I'll almost inevitably come to an app that won't open and I'll have to reboot my phone to get it working and I can imagine them chuckling to themselves as I eat humble pie.
It. is. annoying. The potential is there but there are so many let-downs.
There is absolutely no need for this thread to turn into a flamewar.........
If you can offer a potential solution or any relevant information to the points raised by the OP then please dont be shy in putting them forward...
Anything else, dont bother.
That is all.
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There is absolutely no need for this thread to turn into a flamewar.........
If you can offer a potential solution or any relevant information to the points raised by the OP then please dont be shy in putting them forward...
Anything else, dont bother.
That is all.
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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Dude I was just teasing ya! Anyway I think you've missed the point of the thread. I'm not looking for individual fixes / excuses / workarounds etc etc to each of the individual points. My point is, that was a TYPICAL day spent with WP7, and that all these little things contribute to an overall feeling of malaise with the OS. I've tried to put across that I am a stalwart of WP7 - I have had many many WM5 / 6 / 6.1 / 6.5 phones over the years and went straight to WP7 and yes there is much to like, which is why I'm still clinging to it.
I really just want to guage the mood among other WP7 users - are they experiencing similar malaise to me or not? Is it just me?
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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That statement wasnt specifically directed at you. You'll notice that posts from multiple users have been deleted in an attempt to bring this thread back on topic.
Let me make this very clear to all concerened.
I expect the next post to be directly related to the isues raised by the OP.
Not discussing the drama this thread has already caused in its short lifespan.
NO MORE OFF TOPIC CHATTER PLEASE!
typical ?
is this a typical day of your phone usage ? I've seen the bug thread, but there aren't a whole lot of folks posting similar accounts of annoyances... there are threads, but not so many all at once, such a short span of time.
I wonder how long since your last reset, and if you reboot it daily, weekly, or just when it becomes unusable ?
id imagine it this is a typical experience that m$ is working pretty hard on it... with the update getting pushed back regularly.
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is this a typical day of your phone usage ?
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Sadly, yeah
I've seen the bug thread, but there aren't a whole lot of folks posting similar accounts of annoyances... there are threads, but not so many all at once, such a short span of time.
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It wasn't until I started writing them down that I realized just how many there were.
I wonder how long since your last reset, and if you reboot it daily, weekly, or just when it becomes unusable ?
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I did a hard reset a couple of weeks back to cure the push notification issue, but it has returned. I reboot my phone whenever an app asks me to or an app stops working or anything else goes wrong that a reboot might cure. On average, probably about once or twice per day.
id imagine it this is a typical experience that m$ is working pretty hard on it... with the update getting pushed back regularly.
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The delays in getting the bug fixes are all part of the overall feeling of "meh" I'm getting about WP7.
Obviously you're still very much in love with WP7, which is fine - I wish I was, too, but despite me evangelizing it to all my mates, deep down I don't feel anything like as good about it as I did in October last year.
Actually, I just remembered another thing that went wrong this morning - when I came out of the (constantly crashing) Comica app, the screen graphics went all ape**** and I had to reboot. Again.
To be honest, with this many issues I would be inclined to think that it's a device specific problem.
Do you have any kind of warranty you could claim on?
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I understand a lot of the little frustrations, especially with the update delays, but one thing that did stand out for me is the comment about stability... having to restart your phone to get basic functionality (app launching) going again. I very seldom (less than once a month) have needed to reboot my Focus to get some service or app going again. Some apps do have stability issues for me, but a reboot of the phone doesn't appear to be needed... I can simply relaunch the app in question after it returns to the start menu (sometimes I've had an issue where the app needs a couple of launches to sort itself out).
Are you using a WP7 device with a replaced microSD card, or a Samsung Focus with an added microSD card? The stability issues sound like something that I'd expect to see with a non-compliant microSD card, or some hardware issue with the device. I'm running a Samsung Focus with an added 16 GB card (Ridata, class 6 for the curious), and 20+ GB of space has been used on the phone since Dec., and my device sounds like it is far more stable than yours at the moment.
conantroutman said:
To be honest, with this many issues I would be inclined to think that it's a device specific problem.
Do you have any kind of warranty you could claim on?
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Well yeah there's a warranty but most of the issues are either with apps or are known software issues.
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I understand a lot of the little frustrations, especially with the update delays, but one thing that did stand out for me is the comment about stability... having to restart your phone to get basic functionality (app launching) going again. I very seldom (less than once a month) have needed to reboot my Focus to get some service or app going again. Some apps do have stability issues for me, but a reboot of the phone doesn't appear to be needed... I can simply relaunch the app in question after it returns to the start menu (sometimes I've had an issue where the app needs a couple of launches to sort itself out).
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I usually try restarting the app at least three times before I reboot. Rebooting always fixes it.
Are you using a WP7 device with a replaced microSD card, or a Samsung Focus with an added microSD card? The stability issues sound like something that I'd expect to see with a non-compliant microSD card, or some hardware issue with the device. I'm running a Samsung Focus with an added 16 GB card (Ridata, class 6 for the curious), and 20+ GB of space has been used on the phone since Dec., and my device sounds like it is far more stable than yours at the moment.
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No it's an HD7 with the stock O2 ROM and stock 16GB card as supplied. I have done nothing to it.
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No it's an HD7 with the stock O2 ROM and stock 16GB card as supplied. I have done nothing to it.
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TBH, I think this is the main problem. HTC isn't exactly known for providing great SD cards with their devices.
I encountered similar issues on my HD7 but haven't seen them on either of the Omnia7's or Optimus7 currently available to me.
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TBH, I think this is the main problem. HTC isn't exactly known for providing great SD cards with their devices.
I encountered similar issues on my HD7 but haven't seen them on either of the Omnia7's or Optimus7 currently available to me.
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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I don't know for sure, but I reckon the OS gets bogged down over time. Either due to temporary files or running processes. I didn't investigate much myself as I returned the handset after about a week, but others with certain HTC devices (as well as some DVP owners) have said the problems go away by changing the SD card.
It may also be that it's fixed in NoDo as they have reworked the way memory is accessed. I did however see similar issues in the 7008 build on my Omnia7 - which made me revert to the standard 7004.
Hehe, WP7 is piling it on today. Just tried to download an app.
"Can't get this information at the moment. Check again in a little while."
*Sigh*
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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I think we dell venue pro owners are the experts on sd cards and WP7 The known problem with the DVP crashing when using wifi or returning from standby with a black screen is fixed for a lot of people who swapped their sd cards, though not all. For reasons we cant pinpoint WP7 is spectacularly picky about which cards it works with. I myself have tried 2 new cards and have not managed to solve the crashing problem on my DVP.
Quite possibly you are experiencing the same intolerance to certain sd cards on your HD7 as has affected the DVP and possibly a device swap could fix it. I certainly have not experienced the level of individual application failures you have, and that is with a known crash happy device.
I think I will wait for Nodo and see what happens after. There are some bugfixes in Nodo so you never know. Nodo must surely be coming in the next few days.....right?
It started when I first installed leedroid 2.3d after rooting my fone, then with CM7 RC1, Modaco Fr11 (default options, with MoDaCo additions), CM7 RC2 and StarBurst Lite. I faced the same issue while using Google Maps (data & GPS on). It keeps rebooting. Sometimes it would reboot within a minute or so after starting Google Maps. Sometimes it would take 5 minutes. Not sure what the issue is, but I have a feeling this may not have anything to do with Google Maps or GPS. Cos couple of times the fone rebooted while playing some games with an active wifi connection. But the problem occurs 100% with Google Maps.
I never faced this issue before rooting the fone or even after rooting. The problem only started after flashing the first ROM. After that I have even tried restoring the previous backup for stock ROM, but even that started giving this issue.
Here are the details about my fone:
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.14.05.17
8 GB micro sd card with 512 MB ext partition. I guess its class 4.
Another thing to note is that when I try use a memory card reader to read it on my windows 7 PC, it just wont show up. The same thing happens if I try to use gParted boot CD to read the card. However android seems to read it perfectly fine. I am even able to mount the card from fone using USB storage option.
Is this memory card the issue?
I forgot to mention that I was using apps2sd+ in some form or another for all ROMS except StarDust Lite which was using Data2SD script.
Have you tried running the application when it is stored entirely on the phone (not part or whole to SD)?
Reboots and Bootloops have been present in the latest ROMs. The latest Oxygen ROM has applied the Google update to apparently fix these. It's there to try in the ROM section for you 2.0.2.
Dude,
You're not gonna like what I'm gonna say, but your symptoms match those of mine. Check out the thread I created here.
Now, adding to that, the rebooting started again but this time when using Wifi for a long period, playing games and using mobile data.
What I'd do is try rule out Google Maps. Try use Navigon or iGo.
Two things I learned was that changing ROM's won't help. Neither will changing radio's.
Of course it could just be Brandall mentions.
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Have you tried running the application when it is stored entirely on the phone (not part or whole to SD)?
Reboots and Bootloops have been present in the latest ROMs. The latest Oxygen ROM has applied the Google update to apparently fix these. It's there to try in the ROM section for you 2.0.2.
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I haven't tried running an application purely from the internal memory. However when I restored my stock HTC Desire Froyo backup, the issue still existed. That didnt have any script for apps2sd+ so Google Maps was running purely from the internal memory. Anyways, I will try the Oxygen ROM later today evening and see if that fixes it. I have also ordered for a class 10 16 GB micro sd card. Lets see if that helps.
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Dude,
You're not gonna like what I'm gonna say, but your symptoms match those of mine. Check out the thread I created here.
Now, adding to that, the rebooting started again but this time when using Wifi for a long period, playing games and using mobile data.
What I'd do is try rule out Google Maps. Try use Navigon or iGo.
Two things I learned was that changing ROM's won't help. Neither will changing radio's.
Of course it could just be Brandall mentions.
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I have already ruled Google Maps out since I was able to re-produce the issue even with other navigation softwares like Sygic Mobile Maps & NDrive. I am even able to re-produce the issue without turning on GPS or using any navigation app. Just an active wifi and playing games will also reboot the phone randomly.
One thing I noticed today morning was that when the phone rebooted, the back of the phone was very hot. On removing the cover I noticed that the area below the SIM card gets hot. Is there where the processor chip is? Is it possible that may be somehow the CPU was over clocked by certain ROM which I have flashed before? Is there a way by which I can check this under current ROM (Stardust)?
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One thing I noticed today morning was that when the phone rebooted, the back of the phone was very hot. On removing the cover I noticed that the area below the SIM card gets hot. Is there where the processor chip is? Is it possible that may be somehow the CPU was over clocked by certain ROM which I have flashed before? Is there a way by which I can check this under current ROM (Stardust)?
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I would suggest that first you monitor your CPU usage and battery temperature with SetCPU - it can be downloaded for free here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419 (worth a donate though!)
You can set up a profile to monitor your battery temperature and sound an alarm if it's getting too hot. Running this whist testing your GPS may well diagnose the problem. You can also ensure that you are not somehow already overclocking (which I think is very unlikely).
If this is new to you, make sure you have a good read of the instructions so you don't blow your phone up!
Assuming overheating is the issue, then hopefully you are under warranty and you can return to stock and send the phone back.
For further diagnosis on CPU Usage, battery temperature levels and discovering apps that are taking up resource, I would suggest SystemPanel from the market https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1 - it's pretty damn sh*t hot and has a monitoring service for diagnosis. I'm not sure if that's available on the free version though, but if you try it, you'll want to buy it anyway...
Let us know how you get on. Good luck!
I'm gonna be blunt, I've been through this.
You are wasting your time dude. If your phone is still under warrantee, flash an original RUU and take it back to get repaired.
Its a hardware problem.
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I would suggest that first you monitor your CPU usage and battery temperature with SetCPU - it can be downloaded for free here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419 (worth a donate though!)
You can set up a profile to monitor your battery temperature and sound an alarm if it's getting too hot. Running this whist testing your GPS may well diagnose the problem. You can also ensure that you are not somehow already overclocking (which I think is very unlikely).
If this is new to you, make sure you have a good read of the instructions so you don't blow your phone up!
Assuming overheating is the issue, then hopefully you are under warranty and you can return to stock and send the phone back.
For further diagnosis on CPU Usage, battery temperature levels and discovering apps that are taking up resource, I would suggest SystemPanel from the market https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1 - it's pretty damn sh*t hot and has a monitoring service for diagnosis. I'm not sure if that's available on the free version though, but if you try it, you'll want to buy it anyway...
Let us know how you get on. Good luck!
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brandall, I have now tried it all now but nothing stops the random reboots. I guess I will have to get it replaced while its still under warranty. Lately the phone reboots even without getting hot. Plus, it reboots even without having any active wifi or data connection. Just playing Angry Birds Rio or Angry Birds Seasons for a while will reboot the phone. The only time it doesn't reboot is if use the phone for listening to music or while taking calls or messages. Other than that, it will randomly reboot on using any "smart" application. Even the browser...its damn frustrating. Thanks brandall.
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I'm gonna be blunt, I've been through this.
You are wasting your time dude. If your phone is still under warrantee, flash an original RUU and take it back to get repaired.
Its a hardware problem.
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Thanks mr_norris, I guess I will have to get it repaired or replaced. Thats all that is left...
My phone seems to be experiencing random lockups/screen freezes. These seem to be more frequent when I have the mobile internet activate and i’m in a lower signal area or when I try and end a call through my cars Bluetooth handsfree system but they can happen any time, even sometimes when rebooting the phone, pulling the battery after a lockup has occurred and switching back on, the phone will reboot but freeze once again on the unlock screen.
I have not updated the radio, I am currently on version 5.11.05.27, as I have heard all manner of stories about bricked devices, but could this be the issue or is it more likely to be the sd card, or something else completely?
Any help you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated as am going to break the back cover of my phone soon, with the number of times am having to pull the battery.
I've ordered a new sd card to see if that will make a difference. The last time I used CWM to create the ext partition, should I do it this way again when the new card arrives or try a different way?
try using gparted live cd to create a partition, but i do not think your problem lies with your sd card
have you tried another rom to see if the problem persists?
Ok, i'll try the gparted method next time.
Yeah the first rom I tried was Gingerburst, that seemed to be ok to start with but sense would crash quite often and then the screen freezes started, so I moved to leedroid and although sense never crashes, the screen lockups have continued. I have looked on various other rom threads and i noticed on the Insertcoin webpage there has been a lot of mentions about the latest kernals causing screen locks, so I might try Insercoins v1.1.3, which everybody seems to be reverting back to and see if I have any more success with that.
I have recently tried InsertCoin CM7/STOCK 1.1.3 and again I seem to be experiencing screen freezes which always seem to be happening when the signal is low or when travelling in the car so possible signal fluctuations.
Does anybody have an ideas on how to fix this issue, would flashing the newest radio help and if so what is the best/easiest way to do it? or could it be a kernel issue, if so what do you all recommend.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I would have the freeze issue only in camera mode,otherwise its fine...probably some glitch in my phone,try full wipe n reinstall
I see that this tread is quite old, but i have the same issue with screen freezing. I was useing Leedroid 3.3.3 port on my HTC desire, for 2,5 month and then it started. Ive been trying everything form more than a month now (factory reset, installing aps one by one....) How did you solve the problem if you did at all? or what was the couse
Thx
Do you use software / scripts to control CPU frequencies / voltages?
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Do you use software / scripts to control CPU frequencies / voltages?
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Well i thought of this as well since the freezing started around the same time as i installed SetCPU (+/- a couple of weeks) but since the 2nd factory reset and installation of apps one by one i excluded the program but the problem still occures.
Also PowerAMP was a problem since i dont install it the freezing is not as ferquent (only every 2nd day not every day....)
I've read it somewhere that UV can couse the porblem, but i've never change that.
Also if i have more apps installed then dose my cpu required higher UV? If yes so then i can try to higher their default level.
I've discovered my international HTC One X 32GB becomes very very slow when i fill up the phones internal storage. You need to keep around 5 to 7GB free for the phone to stay useable. I'm on stock rom and asked someone i knew with a one x to try the same and he had the same problem. I'm on android 4.03 software version 1.29.401.11
Do other ppl have the same issue where the phone becomes slower and slower as more storage gets used?
I noticed the same thing but it only happens when I go under 1 Gb of free SD storage. Only occurred on 1.29 and 2.05 Sense based Roms, I was too lazy to try it with CM9
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Happened to me when I copied my music over a little over 2.3 k songs, phone was laggy for a while. Music app still goes slow some times.
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on base 2.0.401.2 im getting some freezing when i switch from mass storage mode
or access the SD using file manager but nothing more really its not as bad as you describe it and perfectly understandable, i only have 700MB left
I have this exact same problem with my hox. I'm running maximus 2.1 stock kernel. If I go below 4-5gb it crawls. Takes about ten minutes to boot up... The phone basically becomes unusable.
i reported this a couple of months ago, ive found the sweet spot is 1g + anything below 1gb and it will slow to unusable and your battery will be slaughtered very quickly as the phone heats up. im not sure why it does it my desire hd i was able to leave less than 1mb and the machine would still run perfectly.
my g1, motorola milestone, desire hd, samsung galaxy tab, my wifes wildfire and wild fire s all run perfectly with filled to the brim sd cards. why the hox wont is beyond me.
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It's doing a media scan. The same thing will happen when you connect it via USB and then disconnect it. If you have seven 4GB MKV files that'll take a fraction of the time compared to thousands of 5,000KB MP3 files. I have a 32GB G-Tab 10.1 and it bogs the same way people are describing when I load it with content for a trip. It also pops up "memory low, remove unnecessary files" warnings starting about 5GB before the storage is actually full. This isn’t any different than people getting bogged down when they have thousands of SMS stored on their phones. And that even happens on Nexus phones. All is not perfect in the land of Android.
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It's doing a media scan. The same thing will happen when you connect it via USB and then disconnect it. If you have seven 4GB MKV files that'll take a fraction of the time compared to thousands of 5,000KB MP3 files. I have a 32GB G-Tab 10.1 and it bogs the same way people are describing when I load it with content for a trip. It also pops up "memory low, remove unnecessary files" warnings starting about 5GB before the storage is actually full. This isn’t any different than people getting bogged down when they have thousands of SMS stored on their phones. And that even happens on Nexus phones. All is not perfect in the land of Android.
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na the machine never stabilizes, i done it once to see if it was just an indexing problem - 48hrs later the phone was still non responsive and was red hot.
there is defo something wrong with the devices software that cause it too effectly loop when the sd memory fills. also i could replicate the problem on other devices but they always start running normally after a while
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na the machine never stabilizes, i done it once to see if it was just an indexing problem - 48hrs later the phone was still non responsive and was red hot.
there is defo something wrong with the devices software that cause it too effectly loop when the sd memory fills.
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What type of content do you have loaded on your phone? I'll fill mine up later because I'm curious now. I've got about 20GB on it split between small files and some large ones and other than the media scan lag at boot I haven't noticed any slow downs. HTC is doing some funky stuff to get away from MTP so maybe that's the issue.
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I thought of something else. The XL has only 10GB of user available storage so I'm sure a lot of users have it close to max'd out. They haven't reported any issues. So it's more likely the amount of files being handled than it is bumping up against the physical storage limit.
that was just a few movies, i like to fill it up when we go away at weekends so was uploading a load of movies and tv programs to catch up when sitting around in the evening.
the only other media i have on the device is audible.com books which wont get indexed as they are not files native to android.
ive given up loading movies on the device now and dusted of the galaxy tab to load up which works much better but poorer screen.
i certainly wont ever entertain phones with integral non removable storage / battery ever again no matter how good the phone is. When the phone freezes up there is no way out of it, it can can take over 15mins to connect to the computer just to remove some of the data, loads of missed calls, - just completely unusable. if the card was removable it would have been a few seconds to remove the data and i would have had my phone back.
I had the same issue when i filled up my device with movies, 10 mkv files at 1,7gb each
Same for me. If I go below 3gb the phone is very slow.
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i get exactly the same issue, anyone got a fix for this yet? i just synced my music and is became unusable. usually by deleting the music it works again, this time its still slow despite having loads of free space now. another reinstall coming up. this is becoming very tedious
Found that problem too, and as i deleted som music and stuff i forgot on the sd-card it was running smooth again...
Really wierd tho.
Really.....
We need a thread to explain common sense.
Fill a hard drive up and search for a file take longer to find it.
Go eat a huge dinner and you will slow down. There really is some stupid ass threads in the one x section.
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E_Goldstein said:
Really.....
We need a thread to explain common sense.
Fill a hard drive up and search for a file take longer to find it.
Go eat a huge dinner and you will slow down. There really is some stupid ass threads in the one x section.
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I didn't realise that the storage in the phone was a mechanical drive that was affected by fragmentation.
Learn something every day.
It's due to the sd storage uses FAT32 this format is old now and it always had an issue of any hard drive that once reaches a certain limit it would slow down as it has to search longer to find what it needs incidentally it's not how full the storage more the amount of files on it. Example. If you put 7 MLV movies on it and fill the drive it wouldn't slow down but if you put 3000 songs on it then it would go slow. I tested this theory out myself on several storage devices and results were always the same. A lot of newer sd cards which use HCSD storage loaded quicker than this phone. I don't know why they don't just use NTFS instead you wouldn't have this issue then but linux struggles with that format
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They should go with EXT4 for all android phones. I've been using EXT4 on my transformer and it is both faster and less limited than FAT32. Microsoft should just add some support for other filesystems. Not to mention that the phone's internal filesystems are already EXT
Jesus. And I thought the hox had enough problems already.
Surely there's a process running that explains the heat and lack of responsiveness? Doesn't anyone have logs of the Cpu activity at the time of the slowdowns? A simple script to kill the process would work as a temporary workaround until HTC release a fix.
jonathanyong said:
Jesus. And I thought the hox had enough problems already.
Surely there's a process running that explains the heat and lack of responsiveness? Doesn't anyone have logs of the Cpu activity at the time of the slowdowns? A simple script to kill the process would work as a temporary workaround until HTC release a fix.
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It's not really a process its when you first boot the device it checks the sd storage for any errors, this is part of the android os but if sd full of files it can take upto 72hrs for this scan to complete and this uses all the CPU N memory hence phone is unresponsive. Disabling the check might cause corruption I think a work around might be to partition the sd storage and use ext format to put all your files and leave enough storage for the operating system and apps
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I have searched, and while I've found people posting "low" I/O scores, none are even close to mine. I did read through about 5 threads, just so no one gets angry.
First off, my phone is stock. About four months old, and up until a week ago, it worked fine. Now it is incredibly slow. It takes about 40-60 seconds to open Facebook. It takes about 35 seconds to get a song to start playing. Browsing the web is just awful, and laggy, and freezes all the time. I see the "This app has stopped responding" dialog every few minutes for all my apps. Even launcher freezes.
AnTuTu I/O benchmarks average around 200-300
Quadrant is about 800
From what I see this is much lower than it is supposed to be, and my phone is much, much slower than it was a week ago. I am new to Android, but am kind of wishing I still had my iPhone, so I could just throw my SIM in there while I'm on vacation.
Also, I checked my CPU load, and depending on the time of day, when I turn my phone on, it is anywhere between 5 and 10. Once (with all apps closed), it was 16. That seems insanely high when you aren't using your phone. I remember checking it about a month ago and it was in the range of 1-2.
Thanks for the help, guys. My phone has basically become unusable. I can barely make calls, and texting is so slow, I've basically stopped responding. Forget about doing emails with my phone.
It's still on warranty. Is this possibly a physical problem? Should I bring it back to my provider and show them how it takes a minute to open an app, and then just switch it? How do you back up and Android phone? I know my iPhone was as simple as plugging it into my computer (iTunes would backup automatically).
Thanks a million!
Also: When I reboot the phone, it takes sometimes up to 10 minutes after the lockscreen shows up for it to become usable. Any widgets are "loading", and the homescreens are quite unresponsive. Any notifications show up after 10-15 minutes instead of after 1 minute, like before. If I try to open apps before I let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes, it will not register most of my presses, and the apps often will not even open.
Try cleaning cache or freeing some space on internal SD
Godra said:
Try cleaning cache or freeing some space on internal SD
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How do you clean cache when you'r completly stock?
Anyway, did this appear after you installed a certain app or just "out of nowhere" ? How much of your storage is filled? 10 - 50 - 80 %?
Doomhamma said:
How do you clean cache when you'r completly stock?
Anyway, did this appear after you installed a certain app or just "out of nowhere" ? How much of your storage is filled? 10 - 50 - 80 %?
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In 4.2,
Settings -> Storage -> Tap on cached data.
In 4.1, I have no idea of doing it without the use of another app.
Some are reporting once you have less than 3GB space, you get massive slow downs with the newer eMMC chips on the newer batch of Galaxy Nexus.
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Some are reporting once you have less than 3GB space, you get massive slow downs with the newer eMMC chips on the newer batch of Galaxy Nexus.
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I know, that's why I asked how much free space does he have
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In response to some of the questions:
The problem appeared out of nowhere. It wasn't after installing a particular app, and can't be traced back to something specific. I have 3.35GB of free space on a 16GB model, so it is mostly full. I've deleted some videos, so now I have 4.23GB available. We'll see if things speed up.
Also, I am running 4.1.1, so I can't clear my cache. At least I don't know how to clear my cache. Maybe someone can inform me.
Doesn't really seem to help. One thing though, I deleted all the songs from a 10 song album by tapping and holding on each song, waiting for the popup menu, hitting delete, and then okay. I did this to all 10 songs before they started to disappear from the list. So, basically 3MB songs were taking 20 seconds each to be deleted from the phone. I once deleted an album this way when I had first gotten the phone, and each song deleted as soon as I pressed okay.
There appears to be something very wrong with my phone.
i would try a factory reset. you wont lose your items in storage, and your apps should get reinstalled..
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i would try a factory reset. you wont lose your items in storage, and your apps should get reinstalled..
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Thanks for that. It told me that it would erase all my photos and music. I'd rather not lose my photos, music, and all that. Also, what about my texts? I'd rather not lose my texts.
shao3m said:
Thanks for that. It told me that it would erase all my photos and music. I'd rather not lose my photos, music, and all that. Also, what about my texts? I'd rather not lose my texts.
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speaking of texts, do you have an abnormal amount of saved texts? ive heard of way to many saved texts causing slowdowns.
So i deleted most of my texts and changed the limit from 1000 to 400. I don't think I had that many though.
After all this work to try and improve my IO, AnTuTu now gives me an IO score of 107 down from about 250.
I should note that I downloaded the xda app, and it took about 6 minutes to open. It was just sitting at a black screen until anything actually happened.
shao3m said:
So i deleted most of my texts and changed the limit from 1000 to 400. I don't think I had that many though.
After all this work to try and improve my IO, AnTuTu now gives me an IO score of 107 down from about 250.
I should note that I downloaded the xda app, and it took about 6 minutes to open. It was just sitting at a black screen until anything actually happened.
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did you reboot first?
I rebooted and now it's 205. Still worse than when I originally tested it.
Backup everything to ur pc and do a factory reset
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Oh my goodness. I did a factory reset. Backed up some things. At least getting (most) stuff back is relatively easy.
The IO score is up from 200 to 882 on AnTuTu.
I guess this is good. I don't know really what to think though. I didn't really do anything specific to "break" it. I never had problems like this on my iPhone. I feel like I'm dealing with a really delicate file system here. It isn't really the solution I was looking for, but it worked. Thanks for the help.
with root, you could have done some basic maintenance, without losing your imported data, that would have fixed your problem. like wiping you cache and dalvik. usually the problem is corrupted data somewhere.
I think you can wipe the cache on stock from the stock recovery
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Kind of silly.
iPhone: jailbreak for functionality
Android: root so it doesn't break
shao3m said:
Kind of silly.
iPhone: jailbreak for functionality
Android: root so it doesn't break
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Can't tell if trolling or stupid.
If that's the reason somebody is rooting for they need to stay on stock. Rooting is there to add functionality. Jailbreaking adds functionality Android has out of the box.