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Wp7 hitting smaller carriers and prepaid

Ok, I have my dad persuaded to get a WP7 device but he doesn't want to pay the heavy cost that the current careers charge for a smartphone. He already has service through a different provider on a family plan which is great. But he wants a smartphone without the hefty cost. Are there any plans for smaller carriers like cricket, metro or virgin mobile to receive WP devices. Maybe even some prepaid devices. Sounds like Tango will take advantage of this but when will they expand to others to make affordable to all.
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937dytboi said:
Ok, I have my dad persuaded to get a WP7 device but he doesn't want to pay the heavy cost that the current careers charge for a smartphone. He already has service through a different provider on a family plan which is great. But he wants a smartphone without the hefty cost. Are there any plans for smaller carriers like cricket, metro or virgin mobile to receive WP devices. Maybe even some prepaid devices. Sounds like Tango will take advantage of this but when will they expand to others to make affordable to all.
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That would be a great way for Microsoft to get some market pentration by seeding 1st Gen devices to these smaller carriers.
In the mean time why not have your dad by an unlocked Gen 1 device one bay. You'd pay prob $200 or for one these days.

Actually on the service he has now they offer the dvp. Thinking about telling him to upgrade phones on his original line.
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LG quantum is at WalMart now for 125 with no contract as a prepaid phone.

Thanks but just checked Cincinnati bell wireless and see that they offer the HTC Radar it wasn't offered last week. Checking into the pricing but im also going to look into that prepaid
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Well if I get my dad the HTC radar my parents only have to pay $30 more for unlimited data which is great. Waiting to see what he wants to do.
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scoobysnacks said:
LG quantum is at WalMart now for 125 with no contract as a prepaid phone.
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I picked up a LG Quantum earlier this year for $100 and a Focus for $90 off Craigslist.
He may be able to find something even cheaper now.

HTC 7 Pro is available on US Cellular and Alltel Wireless if that's what you are wondering.

Cool I guess I was uneducated on what carriers provided the WP7, I thought it was just the Top carriers.

937dytboi said:
Ok, I have my dad persuaded to get a WP7 device but he doesn't want to pay the heavy cost that the current careers charge for a smartphone. He already has service through a different provider on a family plan which is great. But he wants a smartphone without the hefty cost. Are there any plans for smaller carriers like cricket, metro or virgin mobile to receive WP devices. Maybe even some prepaid devices. Sounds like Tango will take advantage of this but when will they expand to others to make affordable to all.
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First of all, what carrier does he have and how much is he paying for it? He should get the Monthly 4g plan from Tmobile. But all the prepaid plans are useful if the owner already owns a device and plans to keep it for a while, other than that regular 2 years plan is cheaper in a short run for smartphones. I got the Tmobile 4g Plan, pay 49.99 per month, i get unlimited call, text and Edge(2g) Data. (4g is limited to 100mb). If your dad is only going to use the smartphone for GPS, Social Network (linkedin, twitter, facebook), or email, this is the plan for him because i pretty much don't go outside the campus and there are wifi around me pretty much everwhere i go. If he is not crazy about phone calls or Text messages nor data usage, then he could go for $29.99 plan with 1500 minutes/text combined(shared) and 30mb of data limit (This has no Unlimited Edge Data btw.) Tmo has the best plan ever! I wouldn't go with Cricket or any oter prepaid carriers because Tmo is more reliable than them!

Depending on the carrier, you could simply buy a Windows Phone outright for full price.
T-Mobile has the Radar available for $399, and the HD7 for $299. Just unlock the phone, stick a SIM card in there from your carrier (if your carrier is GSM that is), and you should be good to go.
at&t has numerous phones available, and I remember reading an article about them having some Windows Phone available specifically for their prepaid service too, so prices shouldn't be too high.

^ That 49.99 plan is a rip off. 100mb of fake 4g, then the rest is 2g!
I pay 43.54 total every month for unlimited everything. Contract free is the way to be.

My dad has Cincinnati Bell wireless and they offer the Radar now, they had the DVP but I think the Radar would suit him better. My parents already have a family plan with no data, so he pays an extra $30 a month for unlimited data

Bump. I'm android right and am looking to jump to an os with somewhat less bugs and active development (vs something that'll be abandoned at the version it ships with) for daily use.
It'd be great if anyone has any info on upcoming phones valid for use with prepaid plans w/ data.

Queston for people using GN on AT&T

If you are using a Galaxy Nexus from Europe on AT&T, does AT&T recognize the phone as a smartphone and force you into a smartphone data plan or can you go for the cheaper "dumbphone" plan?

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It shows up at a unknown gms phone
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theorginazation said:
If you are using a Galaxy Nexus from Europe on AT&T, does AT&T recognize the phone as a smartphone and force you into a smartphone data plan or can you go for the cheaper "dumbphone" plan?
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Dont tell 'em. If they ask tell them its an unlocked nokia n75 or something. They consider that a dumbphone and it was a great smartphone for it's time.
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I had an Atrix previously, and they told me, when I called to update my IMEI, that they had to switch my plan to a non-smartphone plan - unlimited for $10 month. I went for it to try it out. Same speeds as with my Atrix.
Then reading another thread about how ATT throttles the non smartphone plan, and you have to call and pester them into hooking you up to a 4G smartphone plan to pump up the speed, I did that. Now it's up another $35 a month, and guess what. NO SPEED DIFFERENCE. I called and asked to be switched back, and they tried a bunch of different settings to keep pulling that $35 out of my wallet, but they just couldn't produce.
Long story short, take the non-smartphone unlimited.

Alright, thanks guys. I guess I am going to get the Galaxy Nexus instead of the SGS 2 now

I guess the question is, how do you go about it?
I'm on tmo right now, need to move to ATT for signal reasons....how do I get this dumbphone plan? I mean I don't wanna enter into a contract so I'll have to go into the store to order it...won't I have to show them my phone and then they'll just be like "uh...that's not a dumbphone?"

I'm using a dumbphone plan with my Vibrant right now. All you have to do is go into the store with a non-smartphone, get a sim, and then put it in your smartphone.
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As of Today You Can Switch to a Truly Unlimited Data Plan on Tmobile

Just for those that don't know yet. For some reason my internet stopped working for a good hour after switching plans, as did my bros... just a heads up. The cs lady made it pretty clear that tethering will not work on this plan, but will they even know since we don't have a Tmo phone?
Happy downloading and netflixing

Anyone wanna trade Nexus'? (I have VZW)
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Mrcojocaru said:
The cs lady made it pretty clear that tethering will not work on this plan, but will they even know since we don't have a Tmo phone?
Happy downloading and netflixing
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Well T-Mobile "catches" tethering by detecting UAstring on your browser, and redirecting you to a hotspot upsell page. They used to straight up block anything coming from a Chrome desktop UAstring, but since they've started selling Android 4.0 phones with Chrome installed, they've had to back off on that because tons of people (myself included) would get redirected just using "request desktop site" in Chrome for Android.
I'm not sure on their practices now and hadn't been redirected in the past couple months on my T-Mobile SIM. Theres really no reason they would look into it enough to "catch" you doing it unless you're starting to use massive amounts of data to warrant some packet inspection. I think they're going to be blocking 90% of their users because they have T-Mobile branded phones, and that's good enough for them. They'll let the unlocked users go.

Wish their prepaid plans had this
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imtjnotu said:
Wish their prepaid plans had this
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Well they're at least offering it on their Value Plans that don't offer device subsidies and have lower monthly costs. I could see T-Mobile bringing this to Prepaid eventually as well.

martonikaj said:
Well T-Mobile "catches" tethering by detecting UAstring on your browser, and redirecting you to a hotspot upsell page. They used to straight up block anything coming from a Chrome desktop UAstring, but since they've started selling Android 4.0 phones with Chrome installed, they've had to back off on that because tons of people (myself included) would get redirected just using "request desktop site" in Chrome for Android.
I'm not sure on their practices now and hadn't been redirected in the past couple months on my T-Mobile SIM. Theres really no reason they would look into it enough to "catch" you doing it unless you're starting to use massive amounts of data to warrant some packet inspection. I think they're going to be blocking 90% of their users because they have T-Mobile branded phones, and that's good enough for them. They'll let the unlocked users go.
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Wouldn't foxfi work just fine?

Mrcojocaru said:
Just for those that don't know yet. For some reason my internet stopped working for a good hour after switching plans, as did my bros... just a heads up. The cs lady made it pretty clear that tethering will not work on this plan, but will they even know since we don't have a Tmo phone?
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I told my rep that I have a Gnex unbranded.. she didn't care lol. Holy mother of unlimited here I goooo!
Happy flashing everyone!!
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+

Turb0wned said:
Wouldn't foxfi work just fine?
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You'd still be using a browser UAstring from a desktop when you connect.
If you get redirected, you can just use a UAstring switcher on the desktop browser. FoxFi isn't necessary on an unlocked GNex... there's no carrier firmware to get past.

Isn't this plan $90 per months? How would this be beneficial over Straight Talk Sim, Tmo pre-paid 5gb, etc? Even with the price of my home internet and Straight Talk added together its still cheaper than this.
Why not just get a contract free sim plan if you already have the phone. Why sign a 2 year contract?

stelv said:
Isn't this plan $90 per months? How would this be beneficial over Straight Talk Sim, Tmo pre-paid 5gb, etc? Even with the price of my home internet and Straight Talk added together its still cheaper than this.
Why not just get a contract free sim plan if you already have the phone. Why sign a 2 year contract?
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No idea about straight talk don't use it. The prepaid T-Mobile 5 GB plan tho is 70 a month. Just by adding 20 more on you have unlimited.. having a unbranded phone you can tether w it is good too. Now, your telling me that you don't pay 90 bucks for straight talk and your internet home service combined.. you could be on a crappy internet service then. Cause I have 4G clear at home for 50 and it blows nuts, Comcast is 30-50. So that leaves you with a straight talk plan of maybe 20-30? For what 2Gbs? Sounds like you got the short end of the stick then lol
Edit: After switching to Unlimited everything including data on family line I'm paying 160 a month.. oh yea its the value plan too. Not classic.
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+

martonikaj said:
Well they're at least offering it on their Value Plans that don't offer device subsidies and have lower monthly costs. I could see T-Mobile bringing this to Prepaid eventually as well.
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How can you be sure? I found out that it is limited time offer (See fine prints: http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-data-plan)

luckylui said:
No idea about straight talk don't use it. The prepaid T-Mobile 5 GB plan tho is 70 a month. Just by adding 20 more on you have unlimited.. having a unbranded phone you can tether w it is good too. Now, your telling me that you don't pay 90 bucks for straight talk and your internet home service combined.. you could be on a crappy internet service then. Cause I have 4G clear at home for 50 and it blows nuts, Comcast is 30-50. So that leaves you with a straight talk plan of maybe 20-30? For what 2Gbs? Sounds like you got the short end of the stick then lol
Edit: After switching to Unlimited everything including data on family line I'm paying 160 a month.. oh yea its the value plan too. Not classic.
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There is a T Mobile sim card prepaid plan 5gb for 30 dollars a month. Check my sig . I am on straight talk sim which is 45 dollars per month on HSPA plus speeds , between 4 and 8mbps. My home internet is only 35 dollars per month and is Roadrunner. I don't see the point of a 90 dollar plan for a HSPA galaxy Nexus. I was just asking because unlimited data sounds nice but not for double of what I am paying. I get a good amount of data with my no contract plan anyways.
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I made the switch to the truly unlimited plan this morning and was scared that tethering would not work. I came home and tried it on my nexus 7 tablet and it worked flawlessly... I couldn't be happier
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GeekBoi said:
How can you be sure? I found out that it is limited time offer (See fine prints: http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-data-plan)
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You can't be sure. I'm just speculating... Its only available right now on Classic and Value Plans. Depending on how well it does it may come to Prepaid as well.
Henrock11 said:
I made the switch to the truly unlimited plan this morning and was scared that tethering would not work. I came home and tried it on my nexus 7 tablet and it worked flawlessly... I couldn't be happier
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Of course it works. They have no way of blocking your phone from turning it on when you have an unlocked device. They can only block it by detecting UAstring and redirecting webpages.
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stelv said:
Isn't this plan $90 per months? How would this be beneficial over Straight Talk Sim, Tmo pre-paid 5gb, etc? Even with the price of my home internet and Straight Talk added together its still cheaper than this.
Why not just get a contract free sim plan if you already have the phone. Why sign a 2 year contract?
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$90 (Classic Plan) if you take a device subsidy. $70 if you don't (Value Plan).
Its beneficial for people who have family plans because at 3 or more users, individual prepaid plans are less cost effective than family plans.
For an individual user, it's not the best deal ever unless you're currently using the $70 prepaid 5GB plan on T-Mobile and want to use more than 5GB of data and are willing to sign a contract for it.
If you're currently on Straight Talk, then you'd only switch to this if you really needed guaranteed truly unlimited data. If you can keep the data usage lower, ST is obviously a better deal.

Thanks for the info. Saw unlimited and thought it may be a reason to cancel home internet but I guess not.
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luckylui said:
Now, your telling me that you don't pay 90 bucks for straight talk and your internet home service combined.. you could be on a crappy internet service then.
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Sure you would pay it, but the real question is: why would you pay it (when there's a cheaper alternative with less risk of being sanctioned for tethering)?
It does depend, but generally you'll want to get the cheapest combination of services possible. And generally that won't include a $90 phone bill.

stelv said:
Thanks for the info. Saw unlimited and thought it may be a reason to cancel home internet but I guess not.
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Not sure I'd want to rely on a T-Mobile connection for everything in my house including my phone.

I am having the unlimited plus data now which is $20 for 2 GB..
Still thinking if I want to pay $10 extra each month for the unlimited....
2GB is so little.....

I'm guessing it will take awhile, but does anyone know if T-mo's UAstring checking or any other checks are more stringent on these plans compared to the older ones?
every now and then when i spend an afternoon browsing with Chrome i get sent to the upsell page. nothing they can do on their end will reset it. would suck to have it happening more frequently.

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I'm guessing it will take awhile, but does anyone know if T-mo's UAstring checking or any other checks are more stringent on these plans compared to the older ones?
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No one knows. Especially at this point.
every now and then when i spend an afternoon browsing with Chrome i get sent to the upsell page. nothing they can do on their end will reset it. would suck to have it happening more frequently.
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Use a UAstring switcher. Change to Safari or Firefox UAstring.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...2o90jlPHLkCKbHjtA&sig2=gyN8FekifNDXf8sF4gBO2g

AT&T focus group

I am currently in a focus group and am looking for topics to bring up. Besides unlimited data what would you like me to use for topics?
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Faster update approval, no locked or encrypted bootloaders.
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Faster update approval, no locked or encrypted bootloaders.
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The Faster Upgrade is a good one. Not so sure this forum is the place for the Bootloaders. The forum seems to be mainly focused on services offered by AT&T.

How about telling them that their own U-verse app for their Uverse Service will not install or work on their Note 2 phone?
Keyword is this is major customer dissatisfier...

Let us tether without having to buy a separate tethering plan! Especially if we have the grandfathered unlimited data plan :laugh:

I would just like to have Internet all day without turning my phone off 2 to 6 times a day.
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Why do we have to wait for multi-view ..when other carriers already have it?!?!?!
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KEVK said:
Let us tether without having to buy a separate tethering plan! Especially if we have the grandfathered unlimited data plan :laugh:
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This is my biggest issue as well as many others. Why can't we have both. Now don't hate me here... (I hardly ever use more then 2GB a month anyways) but, I think they should let us have free tethering with unlimited data and then they can slow us down after 5 GB. It would be a way so in emergency's it would be available and I wouldn't have to worry about incurring an addition cost.....
As for the we paid for unlimited argument... for me I never really use that much but I see the validity of the argument.
My proposal is simply: sure you can tether, but if you blow though all your data we are going to slow you down..... little steps my friends little steps.

I'd ask about markets with slow HSPA+ speeds. I'd heard that there's a difference between "HSPA+" and "HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul". Are they rolling out this "enhanced backhaul" to more markets, or are they just focusing on their slowly growing LTE?

Krystm said:
This is my biggest issue as well as many others. Why can't we have both. Now don't hate me here... (I hardly ever use more then 2GB a month anyways) but, I think they should let us have free tethering with unlimited data and then they can slow us down after 5 GB. It would be a way so in emergency's it would be available and I wouldn't have to worry about incurring an addition cost.....
As for the we paid for unlimited argument... for me I never really use that much but I see the validity of the argument.
My proposal is simply: sure you can tether, but if you blow though all your data we are going to slow you down..... little steps my friends little steps.
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I agree with you. I have AT&T's grandfathered 'unlimited' plan but I have never gone above 2GB in a month, except two months ago. I was travelling for business and tethered my laptop to my phone to stream some online videos and pushed 3GB while tethering. I got a letter in the mail next week telling me that I couldn't do that again after the 30th of the month or they would convert me to a tethering plan. I'm not asking to let me tether on my unlimited plan to let me push tens of GB's, I simply want to be able to tether my tablet or laptop while traveling for work.
I was going to get the 3g Nexus 7 but settled on the GN2 since I wouldn't have to either a) but a tethering plan for my SGS3 or b) buy a separate data plan for my new tablet. The GN2 solves the tablet issue for me (probably a separate thread altogether).

Corvette Dave said:
The Faster Upgrade is a good one. Not so sure this forum is the place for the Bootloaders. The forum seems to be mainly focused on services offered by AT&T.
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Tell that to our One X and Atrix compatriots. Carriers dictate locked bootloaders (and the inability to unlock them, like at htcdev.com)

Ditto the need for faster OS upgrades from AT&T. If they want to keep customers, they'll have to learn to be more nimble. (Painful for a huge corporation, but it can be done.)

Tell them to lose Isis. The people want Google wallet, not Isis.
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I would like to see the primary line on a family plan get back the 12 month upgrade cycle.
Also, I think phone warranties should last at least until upgrade eligibility. Or, they should let people upgrade early if their phone breaks between warranty end and upgrade eligibility.
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Faster firmware updates, better communication about when we are going to get updates (Why do Sprint and Verizon have multiview, for example, but we don't? AT&T isn't saying anything about it), removal of bloatware from the ROMs/stop tinkering with ROMs, and find out why we don't have original packaging (anyone else miss their Samsung Tin or headphones?). You might also suggest unlimited LTE plans with 2-3 Gig plans for fallback 3G.
As an aside, I am happy with AT&T :good: as a carrier, and not only is my whole family with them, but so is my business. I can say (without any other connection to AT&T) that I have received exceptional service when I go to my local AT&T store.
I wanted to make sure and mention the positive because i have found more traction when bringing up some positives in these types of discussions, versus sounding like i am blasting them. I hope this helps you.
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I am currently in a focus group and am looking for topics to bring up. Besides unlimited data what would you like me to use for topics?
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I think in the big scheme of things the xda members are a fairly small segnent of the business, but that being said, we're not a bunch of dummies, we're all very up to date on what's available as far as equipment and which carrier has which features. So we're small, but educated, don't assume we're unaware of what other carriers are doing and what our phones are capable of.

1. Support Google Wallet
2. More options for data plans. As previous poster said, Allow unlimited data plans that have LTE for up to X amount of GB, then fall to 3G. Maybe even fall to EDGE after 10 GB.
3. Forget tethering nonsense. Data is data, does it matter whether it through the phone or tethered to a computer?
4. Maybe institute tiered fees to allow earlier upgrades of hardware while under contract. Maybe 100$ fee after 6 months, 50$ after a year, etc
5. Most important - faster OTA updates!!!

Plans to bring back favorite numbers? ie. unlimited calling to numbers saved as favorite numbers...
It's still offered on other providers(verizon) and i dont want to pay $30 for some messaging plan with free any mobile to mobile..

Give us tethering without having to pay extra for it.
Approve Samsungs firmware updates quicker.
Give me my Samsung original packaging, I want my headphones.

Tell then to update their piece of crap micro cell
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AT&T GoPhone

Hello all,
I recently changed over my OGP from AT&T postpaid to prepaid with the new $60 plan. The only issue I seem to be having is tethering. Does anyone know if Smartphone tethering is supported on the prepaid side? I would think data is data, and there would not be a restriction. Then again my wife reminds me that I get what I pay for.
Steve

Yes, according to ATT you should pay if you want tethering. .. but ,look around the forum and you will find the way to enable it on your phone... also, I doubt they'll notice unless you start passing your data limits...but you might not want to do that cause it costs an arm and a leg per Mb.
I used to have an old Unlimited for a NotSmart phone plan for $10/month and used tethering with no issues in my unlocked SGSII lol... Unfortunately, they discontinued that plan and after my contract was up I had to get a different plan...
Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283615
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