If you are using a Galaxy Nexus from Europe on AT&T, does AT&T recognize the phone as a smartphone and force you into a smartphone data plan or can you go for the cheaper "dumbphone" plan?
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theorginazation said:
If you are using a Galaxy Nexus from Europe on AT&T, does AT&T recognize the phone as a smartphone and force you into a smartphone data plan or can you go for the cheaper "dumbphone" plan?
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Dont tell 'em. If they ask tell them its an unlocked nokia n75 or something. They consider that a dumbphone and it was a great smartphone for it's time.
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I had an Atrix previously, and they told me, when I called to update my IMEI, that they had to switch my plan to a non-smartphone plan - unlimited for $10 month. I went for it to try it out. Same speeds as with my Atrix.
Then reading another thread about how ATT throttles the non smartphone plan, and you have to call and pester them into hooking you up to a 4G smartphone plan to pump up the speed, I did that. Now it's up another $35 a month, and guess what. NO SPEED DIFFERENCE. I called and asked to be switched back, and they tried a bunch of different settings to keep pulling that $35 out of my wallet, but they just couldn't produce.
Long story short, take the non-smartphone unlimited.
Alright, thanks guys. I guess I am going to get the Galaxy Nexus instead of the SGS 2 now
I guess the question is, how do you go about it?
I'm on tmo right now, need to move to ATT for signal reasons....how do I get this dumbphone plan? I mean I don't wanna enter into a contract so I'll have to go into the store to order it...won't I have to show them my phone and then they'll just be like "uh...that's not a dumbphone?"
I'm using a dumbphone plan with my Vibrant right now. All you have to do is go into the store with a non-smartphone, get a sim, and then put it in your smartphone.
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When I bought my iphones and t-mbole nexus s, I reasoned buying at full price would save me money in the long-run. Then t-moble blocked the nexus s from using my old 5.99 Tzones plan and I had to call numerous times to get the 20 dollar android data plan.
Now I want to buy the Galaxy Nexus Sprint phone for my girlfriend. She has a very old plan with cheap unlimited internet. I don't know the name of her plan (yet).
Will buying a full price phone have any benefit? unlike SIM card phones, I think you have to call to activate Sprint (cmda?) phones. Therefore, I am assuming they will make you pay for a 4g plan... even though it doesn't exist in Los Angels, yet... right?
Do you have to suck it up and take their discounted phone and 2 year contract? I hate contracts...
Thanks,
i would call and ask sprint.
Hard to say. Buying cdma phones full price is bad deal. They don't have as good resale value compared to unlocked GSM versions.
bow chicka wow wow.
Buying a CDMA device full price gives you no benefit whatsoever. Sprint doesn't give you any deal on service, and the resale value of locked CDMA devices is really low.
The only reason to buy full price is if there is no way to upgrade or re-sign a contract.
If she has an old "sero" plan, you can still upgrade and keep the plan. You WILL pay for a 4G data plan, but that's been true for the last 2 years of WiMax too. You should go talk to the Sprint people in the threads about the device. Plenty of people in there are upgrading on the old plan.
How do I find sprint people who upgraded?
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You will probably have to call numerous times to get that phone activated on an old sero plan out wait till the phone had been out for awhile until they allow you too put it on your plan
Or buy the unlocked gsm one off Amazon and just go pre paid
That's what I'm doing Wednesday it will be here with my Sim card kit. Can't wait t mobile I'd pretty good around here so I'm set can't wait
Now just to force roam Pandora to end my contract
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There's no benefit whatsoever to getting a full price CDMA phone
BrianDigital said:
You will probably have to call numerous times to get that phone activated on an old sero plan out wait till the phone had been out for awhile until they allow you too put it on your plan
Or buy the unlocked gsm one off Amazon and just go pre paid
That's what I'm doing Wednesday it will be here with my Sim card kit. Can't wait t mobile I'd pretty good around here so I'm set can't wait
Now just to force roam Pandora to end my contract
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You will love T-Mobile, they are so much faster than Sprint I feel robbed to have been shelling out $70+ for 2000 DSL-like 3G speeds
Culex316 said:
There's no benefit whatsoever to getting a full price CDMA phone
You will love T-Mobile, they are so much faster than Sprint I feel robbed to have been shelling out $70+ for 2000 DSL-like 3G speeds
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I'm actually getting giddy, IM figuring the best way out of my contract, I'd to torrent Ubuntu all day everyday till they drop me, and possibly use a Verizon prl to speed up the process
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Will At&t flag the Galaxy Nexus in their systems, now that Google Play sells it unlocked? Because i remember back i first got my N1 from the Google a few years back, At&t flagged it and required me to add a smartphone data plan.
Do u guys think this will happen now? I'm thinking of getting the Gnex from google play for my brother, but he doesnt want to have to pay for a real data plan
*the reason that I am concerned about this is because I feel like the Google Play version of the GNEX is a whole new version due to new software version as well as the lack of 900mhz UMTS band (Band III)*
opinions pls ( and facts if possible)
Yes, if you have a smartphone it will eventually get flagged and you will have to add a data plan, this is not limited to the GN.
jopherr said:
Will At&t flag the Galaxy Nexus in their systems, now that Google Play sells it unlocked? Because i remember back i first got my N1 from the Google a few years back, At&t flagged it and required me to add a smartphone data plan.
Do u guys think this will happen now? I'm thinking of getting the Gnex from google play for my brother, but he doesnt want to have to pay for a real data plan
*the reason that I am concerned about this is because I feel like the Google Play version of the GNEX is a whole new version due to new software version as well as the lack of 900mhz UMTS band (Band III)*
opinions pls ( and facts if possible)
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Its the same exact device that's been on sale in Europe for 5 months now. Its not different. Still an i9250.
As the previous poster said, its not limited to the GNex, they'll kick you off of a non-smartphone plan sooner or later. Its not hard to figure out. Just switch to an AT&T MVNO and save yourself the trouble.
martonikaj said:
Its the same exact device that's been on sale in Europe for 5 months now. Its not different. Still an i9250.
As the previous poster said, its not limited to the GNex, they'll kick you off of a non-smartphone plan sooner or later. Its not hard to figure out. Just switch to an AT&T MVNO and save yourself the trouble.
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what is a MVNO? it seems to be that the only phones that At&t will add a mandatory data plans to are the ones in their system & of course iPhones. there were plenty of people in the SGS2 thread that were using the international SGS2 on At&t without data plans. same with the international Galaxy note but thanks for the input xD
MVNO is like someone who resells AT&T service.
For example.... Boost Mobile and Virgin resell Sprint's service.
Straight talk uses at&t
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Yes. I got my gf a Samsung Vibrant to put in her ATT family plan. She had previously been using a feature phone that had Web access but no smartphone data plan. It was flagged the second month in.
She switched to Simple Mobile. A MVNO of T-Mobile. $40/month unlimited voice text 3g data.
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Disregard att, acquire straight talk.
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jopherr said:
Will At&t flag the Galaxy Nexus in their systems, now that Google Play sells it unlocked? Because i remember back i first got my N1 from the Google a few years back, At&t flagged it and required me to add a smartphone data plan.
Do u guys think this will happen now? I'm thinking of getting the Gnex from google play for my brother, but he doesnt want to have to pay for a real data plan
*the reason that I am concerned about this is because I feel like the Google Play version of the GNEX is a whole new version due to new software version as well as the lack of 900mhz UMTS band (Band III)*
opinions pls ( and facts if possible)
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Of course they will, it's a smart phone. If you want more control over your service, go with pre-paid from any number of vendors.
Also, JBQ verified it's the same pentaband hardware, just a marketing typo.
WiredPirate said:
Yes, if you have a smartphone it will eventually get flagged and you will have to add a data plan, this is not limited to the GN.
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My sister's vibrant hasn't been flagged for almost a year. This is because the Vibrant's IMEI range is not available to at&t.
The OP is asking whether we think AT&T will be given that imei range now that the GNEX is officially for sale, unlocked in the US, like the nexus one was. IE. Can I get away with dumb phone true unlimited data? This is never monitored or metered, (trust me my sister constantly tethers to 40 gigs of usage per month).
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martonikaj said:
Its the same exact device that's been on sale in Europe for 5 months now. Its not different. Still an i9250.
As the previous poster said, its not limited to the GNex, they'll kick you off of a non-smartphone plan sooner or later. Its not hard to figure out. Just switch to an AT&T MVNO and save yourself the trouble.
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Have been using my Galaxy Nexus on the AT&T $50 unlimited everything, including internet for dumbphones, GoPhone plan for quite a while now and my data still works. Still averaging 5mpbs or more. The good thing about it is that it's not metered. Last month, I used over 6gb of internet and have never been throttled or shut off.
I am concerned that Google will provide AT&T the IMEI numbers of all the Galaxy Nexus that they sell in the play store. If that's the case, then my days of $50 truly unlimited are over. I find that I don't use many minutes, so I might just go back to the $30 T-Mobile plan.
seriously?? I would have thought they would have been more strict about not having smartphones connected to the $50 unlimited everything plan.
Yeah, there are two ways to go about it. $15 internet for quick messaging phones on postpaid or $50 unlimited everything on prepaid.
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DOHCtor said:
Have been using my Galaxy Nexus on the AT&T $50 unlimited everything, including internet for dumbphones, GoPhone plan for quite a while now and my data still works. Still averaging 5mpbs or more. The good thing about it is that it's not metered. Last month, I used over 6gb of internet and have never been throttled or shut off.
I am concerned that Google will provide AT&T the IMEI numbers of all the Galaxy Nexus that they sell in the play store. If that's the case, then my days of $50 truly unlimited are over. I find that I don't use many minutes, so I might just go back to the $30 T-Mobile plan.
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Yes this was exactly what I'm asking about. :/ I have a feeling that Google might give the carriers the IMEI numbers of the gnex as to not piss them off. I doubt the carriers are happy with Google selling an unlocked phone that is interoperable with the GSM carriers in the US.(similar thing happened two years ago with the nexus one but that was two years ago n Google might be bolder about their reentry into the unlocked phones business)
I wanna keep my $10 data plan D:
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So, has anyone that just received the U.S. Galaxy Nexus test this out on AT&T dumphone plan yet?
My friend does it on his international galaxy nexus (uses a gophone sim with a 50/month prepaid), I'm thinking about doing it myself.
Does anyone use the DINK 2 on straight talk and getting 3G
check ebay, you can remote flash your phone
there are listings on ebay where they will flash your phone remotely. You need to have it rooted and a data cable. i saw classified ad saying they did samsung phones for about 25-35 bucks. I texted them and they could do inc2 as well for 35 I even ordered the phone from walmart you need for the esn. I received it and was researching online and really think straight talk's big issue is cutting you off for going overboard on data usage. In some cases people lost their numbers.... I just activated my phone on page plus it $55 and only 2gb of data which could cause me issues. I downloaded a data usage monitor and have been on wifi since the port. I guess I can see how it goes the first 30 days and always try straight talk at a later date. By the way I was on Net10 before i switched to page plus on an att phone and it was awful. Verizon is so much better in my area. so i bought an inc2 on ebay and took the plunge... Hope I helped.
From what I read, this phone does not have the correct frequency to get 3G service on straight talk, so much for being a world phone.
Lino. said:
From what I read, this phone does not have the correct frequency to get 3G service on straight talk, so much for being a world phone.
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try to contact this seller i texted him and he said everything will work because they are using verizon towers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLASH-SAMSU...K-VIRGIN-MOBILE-/320872667153?forcev4exp=true
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From what I read, this phone does not have the correct frequency to get 3G service on straight talk, so much for being a world phone.
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The "world phone" part of the Inc2 was in reference to it working with the Vodafone service. A world phone does not mean that it will work everywhere you go in the world, all carriers operate under different frequencies. If you buy an unlocked GSM phone you have to make sure that it will work with the basebands of your carrier or else you may end up just getting Edge speeds instead of HSDP or HSDPA+.
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try to contact this seller i texted him and he said everything will work because they are using verizon towers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLASH-SAMSU...K-VIRGIN-MOBILE-/320872667153?forcev4exp=true
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Thank you for this link I am going to try to get a hold of this guy and give it a run
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Please let us know how it goes. Using AT&T ST SIM, data speeds are horrendous.
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woodmaster said:
Please let us know how it goes. Using AT&T ST SIM, data speeds are horrendous.
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I had sprint for years and noticed their service was getting worse in DC Metro area, went to Outer Banks, NC and couldnt make a call this past July 4th. I went to the Walmart to buy a temporary phone so i could work a bit while vactioning. The nice woman in Walmart said get the cdma-v Net10 phone (samsung proclaim) it will use verizon towers and that is really the best service around here. So i bought the phone used it a few days and ported my number to them. the one problem was that samsung phone was plastic and the earpiece sort of distorted the caller so I got an old att inspire 4g and bought a sim card ported my number to the sim card device (att) and couldnt believe how awful the service was. WOW, it stunk. I started reading up knowing I wanted Verizon service which in my area is far and away the best so I found Straight Talk and Page Plus could use verizon android phones and get the good service. I chickened out of signing up for Straight Talk only becaus I have heard of all the people getting service turned off so I signed up with Page Plus 55 plan which allows you to use the Verizon phones without flashing a new ESN. It works great but I am using the wifi now becaus the 2 gb limit could be an issue. I am going to give it 30 days to see how the data issue works out and if I am really having to change my habbits will probably try flashing to Straight Talk. So I am interested in seeing how it goes with someone on this forum instead random internet sites.
I have been checking into having it flashed, I think it's the best way to go, I'm going to hold off for a while before I decide to pay and get out of my contract.
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I have been checking into having it flashed, I think it's the best way to go, I'm going to hold off for a while before I decide to pay and get out of my contract.
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Do the math. Depending how long your contract is. I have another year and six months. I will save over 1200 bucks minis your 350 for breaking, and your still money ahead
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I have a incredible 2 flashed out to Verizon $50 unlimited and run over 25gb a month with the data hot spot and never had a issue you might wanna skip straight talk I did my dads Verizon phone to straight talk one month with a change to his data in how much he used and they were ready to kick him off. I've been running it this way almost a year best money I ever spent. EBay and the guys do remote flashing you won't regret it I promise.
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I have a incredible 2 flashed out to Verizon $50 unlimited and run over 25gb a month with the data hot spot and never had a issue you might wanna skip straight talk I did my dads Verizon phone to straight talk one month with a change to his data in how much he used and they were ready to kick him off. I've been running it this way almost a year best money I ever spent. EBay and the guys do remote flashing you won't regret it I promise.
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Please elaborate!
I am currently on Pageplus and have the 1200 Talk & Text plan (1200 minutes + 3000 texts + 100mb data).
I use WiFi almost exclusively because the data plan is all but non existent.
What do you mean by "flashed out to Verizon $50"?
What plan are you on with Verizon?
DO TELL!
I bought a $15 throw away and the guy from eBay flashed the esn into my incredible leaving Verizon thinking its a Samsung gusto and for that type of phone they have the prepaid $50 unlimited everything plan so if you do it don't be afraid to go balls to the wall. I do every month its my way of giving Verizon a bit back in the end lol.
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I bought a $15 throw away and the guy from eBay flashed the esn into my incredible leaving Verizon thinking its a Samsung gusto and for that type of phone they have the prepaid $50 unlimited everything plan so if you do it don't be afraid to go balls to the wall. I do every month its my way of giving Verizon a bit back in the end lol.
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And this is on ST
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No its on Verizon prepaid network. All the goods of Verizon without the contract. If you flash it dont activate the prepaid phone till its all flashed over to the incredible 2. I wish I was able to do the flash my self I got the software to do it I just don't understand how its all done. The guys that do this keep it hush-hush on the how to's. I've had a few done already for me and my wife and everyone I get done they all work flawlessly.
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No its on Verizon prepaid network. All the goods of Verizon without the contract. If you flash it dont activate the prepaid phone till its all flashed over to the incredible 2. I wish I was able to do the flash my self I got the software to do it I just don't understand how its all done. The guys that do this keep it hush-hush on the how to's. I've had a few done already for me and my wife and everyone I get done they all work flawlessly.
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They sell that deal to non 3G phones, right?
Are you getting 3G?
Also you said Samsung Gusto, I see these are expensive at the verizon website, the Gusto 2, but they sell the gusto phones on ebay cheap, 20 bucks, better than 200.
This thread has some valuable info.
The gusto 1 is new for $20 at wal-mart and so is the gusto 2 and both get 3g if they didn't you would get only what the gusto got in data.
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So yes I'm getting full 3g speed to use as my data and for my WiFi tether. The incredible2 doesn't act any different when its been flashed I have both mine and my wife's rooted we change custom roms all the time. Just make sure after the gustos esn sticker is placed in you incredible after the flash is done then snap the gusto in half cause if someone else trys to activate the gusto it throws a red flag up let's Verizon know you cloned the gusto to another phone so I break them into a few pieces so they can't ever be used. I hope all I said has and will be helpful to you all.
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So looks like the next (and possibly all) batch of Nexus phones will be GSM. Currently I am grandfathered in on Verizon's Unlimited 4G data and am currently not under contract.
Been trying to think of a way to jump ship to a GSM carrier to get the next Nexus, but still keep my Verizon plan should I want to come back (their coverage in my area is considerably better than any of the GSM carriers), but without keeping it active (put it on hold?). Looks like the best I can do is put the account on hold for a maximum of 90 days.
I've considered the pay as you go plans, but again would lose my Verizon unlimited 4G after 90 days
Thoughts?
Switch to the cheapest possible voice plan, buy a Wifi Hotspot off of ebay and throw your LTE sim in it. Still paying for 2 plans, but at least you'll have unlimited data no matter which GSM carrier you go with.
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Fumetsu said:
Switch to the cheapest possible voice plan, buy a Wifi Hotspot off of ebay and throw your LTE sim in it. Still paying for 2 plans, but at least you'll have unlimited data no matter which GSM carrier you go with.
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+1
However there's no point since yiunwant the Nexus as your device... Even with unlimited data, it may not be worth holding on to. Perhaps sell it, I think there's a site or something where you can do so, or craigslist it, I'm sure you'll make a couple hundred and then just go to a Verizon store with them.... worth looking into IMO.
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Originally, I was using the unlimited data plan for non-smartphones from at&t with my GSM Galaxy Nexus. I was using it for a good 5 months or so. at&t was never able to detect my phone as a smartphone even with the IMEI. For some reason earlier this week, I get a text from at&t saying that I have used 2gb of data out of 3gb. I call at&t and it turns out they figured out my phone was a Galaxy Nexus I9250. I thought it was impossible for them to find out, but apparently it isn't anymore. I was tethering, but I have done it in the past and there was never a problem. Now I'm forced to use their data plan for smartphones and am on the 3gb for $30/ month -___-
I guess at&t did a thorough investigation into my phone or something? Anybody else heard of something like this happening.
Happening to a lot of people. Not hard for them to figure it out if they care to do some digging. Its a pretty big flag when you're supposedly using a dumbphone and you're using 2GB or more of data a month. They're catching lots of people doing this.
If you're interested in using AT&T and saving money, just go with a prepaid carrier. AT&T's own prepaid plans are horribly overpriced by comparison.
They just need one Galaxy Nexus's IMEI to do magic.
You enter your imei here and it tells uou what phone you have most of the time.
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr
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AT&T can go to hell, they're so damn determined to catch and stop tethering with their unlimited plans, it's like customers are oppressed and are simply rebelling in underground fashion, the Great A, and T's catch them and give them 100 lashes.
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