[Q] Samsung or Sprints fault? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

As you know we dont have ics source yet for our phones :/
but other samsung phones like the GS2(AT&T) and the Note are already using ics.
So my question is, at this point, who is to blame for our ics not being released?
BTW, if im wrong about something, tell me cause im kinda new at this

Samsung controls the source code and the ROM.
Sprint only controls if we get OTA update.
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moeinyoho said:
As you know we dont have ics source yet for our phones :/
but other samsung phones like the GS2(AT&T) and the Note are already using ics.
So my question is, at this point, who is to blame for our ics not being released?
BTW, if im wrong about something, tell me cause im kinda new at this
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Historically, update around 6 months after the new android is released is normal for sprint android phones. Takes longer for cdma phones because GSM gets worked on first due to the much larger user base
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Could be that Samsung won't officially release ICS for the epic touch until S3 is out? The could be copying what HTC does for their devices. Release the update after a new model is launched.
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when we will we get the ics update?.I'm so pissed off cause tmobile is Rollin out their update and sprint is messing up...Does anyone know when should we expect the ics...This is so disappointing..sprint is so messin up..

mariabx485 said:
when we will we get the ics update?.I'm so pissed off cause tmobile is Rollin out their update and sprint is messing up...Does anyone know when should we expect the ics...This is so disappointing..sprint is so messin up..
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Is it really that big of deal. We will still be getting ics before a lot of other devices and some devices that came out around the same time won't get it all. Samsung/sprint don't even need to release ics for this phone. I am just happy we will be getting it at all. It sounds like its very close anyways.
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There are good reasons why ICS hasn't gone OTA just yet... And in the end it will be a win for everyone. Those that have been working on addressing bugs and trying to ensure the major ones - like the "superbrick" or eMMC bug - are addressed before OTA are doing so in the hopes that our release is the best that it can be.
But don't take my word for it... Just look at the most recent threads in the General forum. You will see the effort that the XDA community, Samsung and Sprint have put in so far to have this roll out with as few issues as possible.
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I really dont understand why everyone is complaining so much about this ota update. Some variant of ics has been available for this phone for months. Its been fun to flash the leaks and try out various roms with a stable gb base to roll back to just in case. Samsung and Sprint could have dumped a decent ics leak on us several months ago but they decided to work it a bit more and give us some 4.0.4. If you want ics now then flash el22, its awfully nice.
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Are we getting 2.3.5 or 2.3.7 anytime soon?

Just curious.
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Our next update will probably be ics but cm7 should be here pretty soon .............but dont worry devs are on it
lballer69 said:
Our next update will probably be ics but cm7 should be here pretty soon .............but dont worry devs are on it
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I thought ics wasn't coming to other devices until like spring 2012. But alright, we'll see.
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Hopefully by the end of the year.. and ics by April or later
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LOL.
That is all.
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carlangas20 said:
Hopefully by the end of the year.. and ics by April or later
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This may be a stupid question, but with the release of the source code for ICS, why do you think it would take so long for it to get it pushed to the E4GT?
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This may be a stupid question, but with the release of the source code for ICS, why do you think it would take so long for it to get it pushed to the E4GT?
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Well its been almost 2 months since the phone came out and we haven't got any updates that would fix the Los, and I read somewhere that cm9 will be out in about 2 months (some developer tweet it) so hopefully by march or 4 months from now, I'm no expert but that sounds very reasonable. I also read that the release was for the nexus, And that they are going to release the code for more devices in the future.
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I'm holding out hope for ics and cyanogen, it gets disheartening though, not hearing of any development progress other than basic mod roms
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If you are asking about an "official" release from either Sprint or Samsung no one really knows what version we will get IF any for that matter right now. IIRC the original Epic 4g just had a "official" 2.3.7 rom leak out but its still a beta so we can only hope that in the end that's the build we will be getting from Sprint/Samsung.

Good news

ICS is close.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ogress-report-original-droid-to-lose-support/
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I hope its here soon
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Don't get too excited, while our phones may have a Exynos CPU we also are the only ones with a CDMA and Wimax radio. That the biggest reason we don't have CM7 yet while all the other SGSII's do, at least in beta form. It may take some time to get the driver situation sorted so I wouldn't expect the E4GT to get ICS in beta form as soon as the others.
sk63 said:
Don't get too excited, while our phones may have a Exynos CPU we also are the only ones with a CDMA and Wimax radio. That the biggest reason we don't have CM7 yet while all the other SGSII's do, at least in beta form. It may take some time to get the driver situation sorted so I wouldn't expect the E4GT to get ICS in beta form as soon as the others.
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This is right on the money unfortunately. Our phone will take awhile. Ah well, all good things come to those who wait.
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Doubt it bubby has a working AOSP kernel for MIUI 3g wifi and gps all work so far
Is it safe to say that we'll see an official ICS release from Samsung/Sprint before we see CM9 w/ 4G?
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Doubt it bubby has a working AOSP kernel for MIUI 3g wifi and gps all work so far
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Kudos to Bubby on that but just cause he gets it doesnt mean it'll be supported by CM. If they try to merge it and it breaks the existing builds, thats a no go. Slayher worked forever on the tbolt and it never played nice, the build itself is awesome but it couldn't be synced to mainline properly...not even sure its supported yet (although i sold that a couple months ago).
Not trying to be a downer, just realistic.
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Dchibro said:
This is right on the money unfortunately. Our phone will take awhile. Ah well, all good things come to those who wait.
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I didn't want to be the one to say it but I have been reading February or March...at the earliest....hopefully those reports aren't right but I think they are
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Samsung made a comment last month regarding ICS on the Galaxy SII.
Official update from Samsung and carriers will be 2nd Qtr next year = April - June. Unfortunately this sounds about right. I recall the original EVO 4G didn't get official Gingerbread update until June, six months after it was out.
Plus Samsung said they want the Galaxy S3 out a little earlier, Spring next year. I bet we see Samsung's next gen Galaxy series release first before the SII gets official ICS update.
Sprint Galaxy S2 w/ Calk's 1.5a + ICS 1.6
EDIT: Nevermind.

Jellybean on august 29!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...coming-to-Galaxy-S-III-on-August-29th_id33275
Looks like where waiting till august 29
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I'm sure that's for the international version...but I hope I'm wrong
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plmiller0905 said:
I'm sure that's for the international version...but I hope I'm wrong
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+1 on international only. Considering the article is also talking about the international Note 2 since it is going to have the Exynos chip.
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Still good news. Sooner that is done the closer we will be to getting it here.
I'm going to guess ATT will launch JB in late September. Hopefully the process will flow faster since recently taking heat,and pointing the finger at Google for being slow to push updates.
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Tlo218 said:
I'm going to guess ATT will launch JB in late September. Hopefully the process will flow faster since recently taking heat,and pointing the finger at Google for being slow to push updates.
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I wouldn't put money on it being that early.
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I'd be surprised if the official update is out before November
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I remember it took AT&T months to put out the gingerbread update for my infuse. The last leak from samsung was I believe 3 or 4 months before official rom came out and it was the exact same rom.
If you are on xda the leak is when the rom is released, who cares about official at&t release.
I had froyo and gingerbread on my captivate months before at&t got their act together.
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elfie said:
If you are on xda the leak is when the rom is released, who cares about official at&t release.
I had froyo and gingerbread on my captivate months before at&t got their act together.
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So then its safe to say sometime in mid to late September for leaks
Thanks xda!
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Wonder how long this is going to take for Rogers to release it. I would love to have it ASAP but god knows they will throw some bloat wear on it.
Tlo218 said:
I'm going to guess ATT will launch JB in late September. Hopefully the process will flow faster since recently taking heat,and pointing the finger at Google for being slow to push updates.
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I don't think AT&T would release that as they don't want to mess with iPhone 5 roll out and steal that thunder. However the smart thing is for Samsung to push the crap out of this and put pressure on all carriers to release JB before iPhone 5 comes out.
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my pessimistic prognosis
is it will be next year for AT&T SGS3 JB. Based on Cappy expreience. Then KrispyCream in 2014.
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With an official or leaked release of 4.1 of s3, will that improve the "original dev" section with faster development since the developers will have access to drivers they didn't before?
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With an official or leaked release of 4.1 of s3, will that improve the "original dev" section with faster development since the developers will have access to drivers they didn't before?
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Yes.
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With an official or leaked release of 4.1 of s3, will that improve the "original dev" section with faster development since the developers will have access to drivers they didn't before?
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Then what's enabling the maintainers of jb ROMs that are already going strong? Seems if Cm10 is already so far along, the others could be as well, capacity willing.
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I think the carriers will defintiely slow the process down. However, I really don't think it will take as long as it did going from GB to ICS for SGS2 variants. If you recall, some SGS2 Variants in US and Canada just got their ICS around the same time SGS3 was released (LOL). But the upgrade from ICS to Jellybean is fairly small and I know that Google and Samsung (as well as other manufacturers) are trying to make updates a ltitle more timely than they have been in the past. Whether or not this will hold true is yet to be seen. However, seeing that there is already a leak for i9300 so soon shows me that Samsung is making more of an effort. I don't recall the ICS leaks for my i9100 coming out this soon
I'd be surprised if AT&T even releases JB for the Galaxy S3. Doing that would only benefit the customer, and it is strictly against AT&T's policy to do anything that might benefit the end user.
I'd say there is a 90% chance we will all be stuck with ICS unless we root and flash our own JB custom ROM's. AT&T doesn't care if you use ICS. Hell, 98% of people with the Galaxy S3 in the United States don't even know what ICS and Jellybean are, and they couldn't care less as long as the phone functions.
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I'd be surprised if AT&T even releases JB for the Galaxy S3. Doing that would only benefit the customer, and it is strictly against AT&T's policy to do anything that might benefit the end user.
I'd say there is a 90% chance we will all be stuck with ICS unless we root and flash our own JB custom ROM's. AT&T doesn't care if you use ICS. Hell, 98% of people with the Galaxy S3 in the United States don't even know what ICS and Jellybean are, and they couldn't care less as long as the phone functions.
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Both comical and accurate. lol
-Ryan
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blue265 said:
I think the carriers will defintiely slow the process down. However, I really don't think it will take as long as it did going from GB to ICS for SGS2 variants. If you recall, some SGS2 Variants in US and Canada just got their ICS around the same time SGS3 was released (LOL). But the upgrade from ICS to Jellybean is fairly small and I know that Google and Samsung (as well as other manufacturers) are trying to make updates a ltitle more timely than they have been in the past. Whether or not this will hold true is yet to be seen. However, seeing that there is already a leak for i9300 so soon shows me that Samsung is making more of an effort. I don't recall the ICS leaks for my i9100 coming out this soon
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You get an A+ for positivity, but unfortunately, you're giving the carriers too much credit, especially AT&T. In the end, Samsung pushing out updates in a timely manner is as useful as rubber lips on a woodpecker because the frigging carriers are guaranteed to slow sh*t down so they can bloat the software up to their liking.
-Ryan

Tmobile JB update info

So i just found this..
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Why not post a link instead of a screenshot?
Samsung will update US Galaxy S III devices to Jelly Bean 'in the coming months'
We won't get jellybean until the note 2 releases and is out for a while. I wouldn't expect jellybean until November or December
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I place the blame for this squarely on T-Mobile. Anyway, CM10 is great!
Jigga0o7 said:
I place the blame for this squarely on T-Mobile. Anyway, CM10 is great!
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Okay..... its the same case for other oems. Why blame one carrier wheb they all go through the same process of pushing out updates. Complaints about updates are getting old here. Cant wait a few months? Is your phone unusable now as it stands?
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here's another site.
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/17...ly-bean-update-for-galaxy-s-iii-u-s-variants/
This happens in every phones forum. Everyone gets sooooo mad that phone manufacturer's don't release immediate software updates for already released phones because for SOME STRANGE REASON, they ACTUALLY want you to buy their new devices. People need patience
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Question for all you experienced custom ROM installers: is there a custom JB rom in the wild that has everything working? I've been thinking about JB since it came out, and now I am reading that it might be another few months before we have the official T-Mobile version. I am finally tempted to root and do a custom rom.
So, is there a fully working, stable Cyogen Mod 10 out there? I am not interested in nightly builds. I would just like the experience one gets from a Nexus phone that is running vanilla JB.
Thanks!!
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Okay..... its the same case for other oems. Why blame one carrier wheb they all go through the same process of pushing out updates. Complaints about updates are getting old here. Cant wait a few months? Is your phone unusable now as it stands?
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I say T-Mobile because the article is specifically referencing them. I've gone through all of the recent roms created by great devs like DJIntrigue which seem to be quite ready for prime time so it doesn't make much sense that there needs to be more "months" for a final release. We're not talking usability here as I assume most of us root our devices but it would be great to have faster availability of the latest Android firmware in case we wanted to run that.
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I say T-Mobile because the article is specifically referencing them. I've gone through all of the recent roms created by great devs like DJIntrigue which seem to be quite ready for prime time so it doesn't make much sense that there needs to be more "months" for a final release. We're not talking usability here as I assume most of us root our devices but it would be great to have faster availability of the latest Android firmware in case we wanted to run that.
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The problem is carriers want to add in their own apps and "test" the update for compatibility with their networks...not to mention the majority of users aren't text savvy (or rooted, for that matter) and the carrier doesn't want to be flooded with "I updated mai fone and it's no worky no mo'" calls....
We may want faster availability, the carriers want people to pay upgrade fees (and/or buy devices outright) and less headaches....
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Dj's and Wild's jb roms are fairly heavily modified. The leaks they are based on are still buggy and horrible on battery life.
I for one would much rather wait a few more months and get a solid release.
Besides, I'm willing to bet that most who are getting impatient waiting for the official release will wind up going back to custom roms within a couple of days anyway.
Plus, with how good Frosty and XquiziT are, you could pretend its based of the official release and be just as happy! (If I wanted to blame anyone it'd be them for raising the bar and forcing Tmobile and Sammy back to development!)
I honestly don't get all the impatience. With how hyped some folks are getting over it I can only see them being disappointed! Then we get to read all about how lame Sammy and Tmobile are for not taking the time to make it better!
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Who cares JB isnt a big update over ICS anyways. I have a i9300 and the official JB update is weak. if youve used Frosty Jb you wont see a big difference
Blame tmo samsung sent the update 3 weeks ago smh
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Three weeks ago and no leak?
No leaks anymore from samsung period! For any device.
It'd have to be leaked from tmobile for us to get it now.
That's how I understand it anyway. If you follow the build versions, there would've probably been about 9 other leaks by now, had they kept their systems up like they were.
(Last leak was LI8, new ota is LIJ) 9 builds in between. Also I'm guessing the jb update must not actually be ready. (Maybe they found something they didn't like)
They seem to be doing what I expected with having another official ICS update before JB.
I could be wrong of course. Time will tell.
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According to Samsung, Jelly Bean for S3 in US is coming in next few weeks
(sorry I don't have enough post to post URL)
Go to samsung website, article, galaxy s3 update
I've been running a deodexed LI6 leak since its release with no bugs or battery complaints...
zengshengliu said:
According to Samsung, Jelly Bean for S3 in US is coming in next few months
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Go to samsung website, article, galaxy s3 update
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*fixed for you
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Jelly-Bean,news-16185.html
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*fixed for you
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Jelly-Bean,news-16185.html
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and a direct link from Sammy:
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20295
In addition to Jelly Bean, the update will also deliver new features to Samsung's TouchWiz interface, as well as enhancements being applied to the smartphone's camera. You'll be able to apply several filters to still and video shots, utilize a low-light mode and combine separate video clips.
I dont see a low light mode anywhere on my i9300...

So is T-Mobile late on a update?

I know you guys are saying that maybe T-Mobile is waiting for 4.2 update and not 4.1.2 reality is that we dont know. Well Sprint just released another 4.1.2 update with premium suits MD4 to be exact. When the S4 is recently out for Sprint they release this update. One thing I though that US variants will never see an official premium suit update. I though it was meant for quad-core or Exynos. Anyways I have noticed that T-Mobile been pushing updates for our S3 every 2 months. Last update was in January and now is May thats 4 months in compare to the past of 2 months.
I know this is another thread about that. But we may soon see another OTA or who knows we may have to wait more months. Anyways I attached a picture so you can see what im talking about.
Android version 4.0.4 T999UVLG1/T999UVLEM 6/21/12
Android version 4.0.4 T999UVLH2 8/16/12
Android version 4.0.4 T999UVLJ4 10/17/12
Android version 4.1.1 T999UVDLJA 11/14/12
Android version 4.1.1 T999UVDLJC 1/31/13
I doubt T-Mobile will waste an update to 4.1.2 - they will probably release 4.2.2
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I doubt T-Mobile will waste an update to 4.1.2 - they will probably release 4.2.2
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Do you think is a waste? I mean there is no difference in releasing 4.1.2 and then 4.2 later when is done.
They prolly already been testing the 4.1.2 since its been out for other phones way before. It doesnt hurt em to release it and then release 4.2 when its ready for them to test and approve it.
I highly doubt our S3's with ever see an official 4.2 update from T-Mobile.
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You really think that Samsung won't push a 4.2 update? The S3 is their best competition to people flocking to the HTC One instead of the S4 - I bet it gets an update.
As for 4.1.2, I just don't see the point in releasing a 4.1.2 update but you're probably right, they'll drop 4.1.2 and keep us there until January.
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You really think that Samsung won't push a 4.2 update? The S3 is their best competition to people flocking to the HTC One instead of the S4 - I bet it gets an update.
As for 4.1.2, I just don't see the point in releasing a 4.1.2 update but you're probably right, they'll drop 4.1.2 and keep us there until January.
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Oh yes we will see 4.2!! Look at the S2 it got 4.1.2 and it was a gingerbread phone! the S2 is the only old phone that tmobile have that released 4.1.2. I remember back when the Amaze came out it was about the same time that the S2 did. The Amaze got ICS and that it. Loot at it this way. The HTC ONE S doesnt have JB yet and the S2 does. So yes that tells me that we will see a 4.2 update.
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Oh yes we will see 4.2!! Look at the S2 it got 4.1.2 and it was a gingerbread phone! the S2 is the only old phone that tmobile have that released 4.1.2. I remember back when the Amaze came out it was about the same time that the S2 did. The Amaze got ICS and that it. Loot at it this way. The HTC ONE S doesnt have JB yet and the S2 does. So yes that tells me that we will see a 4.2 update.
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One S does have jellybean..
I really hope we get 4.2 instead of 4.1.2
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I just want multi view and the new gallery lol
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Would look retarded if we get 4.1.2 way later than a inferior device. We will get the 4.2 Samsung has stated some of the s4 features will come to s3. They just need the s4 to sell for a month or two so it's not on the same "version" as a year old device the s3
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Not that it's not obvious but there's many roms with multiview and thew new gallery if you want it that bad lol. It would be nice to see it as an official update tho
I agree but that is not why im so interesting in it. My issue is that I cant see why tmobile would rather wait for 4.2 instead of 4.1.2. There shouldnt be a problem on releasing both. Since the 4.1.2 has been out for so long I bet ya samsung has probably gave to tmobile to test already. And then release 4.2.
When its ready. Sure wish my friend were still working with tmobile. He used to get this updates to test. I remember back with my G2X not after a month it was out my friend got one with GB to test. But in anyways im glad that samsung is keeping up with updates even to the old phones not like other phone companies like LG
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Ill be fine if a dev is skillful enough to integrate multi-view and the note 2 gallery in a tmobile rom. I dont like running ports from another carrier, they are now 100% stable. This will make me come back for AOSP
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I agree but that is not why im so interesting in it. My issue is that I cant see why tmobile would rather wait for 4.2 instead of 4.1.2. There shouldnt be a problem on releasing both. Since the 4.1.2 has been out for so long I bet ya samsung has probably gave to tmobile to test already. And then release 4.2.
When its ready. Sure wish my friend were still working with tmobile. He used to get this updates to test. I remember back with my G2X not after a month it was out my friend got one with GB to test. But in anyways im glad that samsung is keeping up with updates even to the old phones not like other phone companies like LG
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T-mobile is not releasing 4.1.2 to us because they feel it is not really a major update (it eeally isn't, only with the premium suite). The carriers are charged for these updates, they don't come free. We would have got 4.1.2 along with the s2 if they were going to. Now 4.2 comes with major updates that no one can deny so they will release it because they know it will be an appriciated and much more noticeable update then 4.1.1 to 4.1.2.
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T-mobile is not releasing 4.1.2 to us because they feel it is not really a major update (it eeally isn't, only with the premium suite). The carriers are charged for these updates, they don't come free. We would have got 4.1.2 along with the s2 if they were going to. Now 4.2 comes with major updates that no one can deny so they will release it because they know it will be an appriciated and much more noticeable update then 4.1.1 to 4.1.2.
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Well I didnt know that tmobile buy these updates. That is kinda hard to believe
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Well I didnt know that tmobile buy these updates. That is kinda hard to believe
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Yeah apparently all carriers have to pay for these updates. I believe is mostly for the bloatware and extra carrier modifications each carrier wants implemented into their version of the OS.
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I doubt we will see any of these updates and if we do get one it will be by the end of the life cycle of the phone just like the s2.
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