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Hi All,
I ordered a Datel Wii wireless retro controller from http://www.codejunkies.com/ and finally got it! Its decently made and if I can get the bugs worked out I would suggest it to others came to about 46 dollars with S&H.
Currently I have tested it out using both Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley). Both apps seem to sync with this model controller no problem and seem to hold the connection.
Below is a small comparison between the two (for all testing 1 was only installed at a given time)
Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.)
- Syncs and holds the connection
- Need to have compatibility mode disabled in spare parts to work correctly in full screen mode
- Appears to be able to map both of the analog sticks and all other buttons on the controller
- Views the controller as a classic controller
- Update from Dev - pikipirs
WiimoteController supports what is known as PWM mode. This is not analog stick emulation as Nintendo64 expects, but is as close to it as possible. It works by quickly pressing and depressing emulated keys, something you would be doing for example if you played a racing game on a computer with directional keys and you wanted to turn the steering wheel just a little.
You can activate this mode by going to WiimoteController's Preferences->Advanced settings. You have control over each axis of all sticks (nunchuk's and both from the classic controller). If you want to for example activate PWM for the left classic controller stick, set "CC L-stick X-mode" and "CC L-stick Y-mode" to Analog.
A word of advice: analog sticks have dead spots at the neutral position and when in this position, WiimoteController will not emulate any keys, but it might if your classic controller's analog stick is too sensitive. If you touch the PWM-mode-enabled stick outside your emulators, you'll get a shower of letters, so try to avoid that. Also, when you are plugging your classic controller into the wiimote, don't touch any analog sticks on it because WiimoteController expects all sticks to be in the neutral position when it detects them.Side note from Jvward - I am a moron who after emailing both dev's I posted the response from pikipirs somehow got confused and posted in the section below, I have since updated it, Also special thanks to pikipirs for reading my post and keeping me on point
Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley)
- This controller is actually suggested as the only non Nintendo made controller by the dev.
- Some buttons don’t work (mainly both analog sticks are un-mappable)
- Because of the problems with both analogs I am unsure how this application views this controller (being as a wiimote or a wiimote with a classic controller)
- I have emailed the dev about the analog support and no response as of this point, I am going to email him again today.
Preperation
In any of the "oid" app's by yongzh
you need to make the following changes after properly sycning the Datel Wii wireless retro controller (or a wiimote) with either of the two applications listed above. (thanks Salpula for this info):
Input settings > Key Mappings - remap the keys as necessary
Then
Other settings > Use input Method > check off the box
FPse Controller Info:
Coming Soon!
Testing
I tested: SNESoid, Nesoid, GameBoid, N64oid, and Gmail using both applications and the controller.
With all of the applications both sync apps worked fine and generally speaking gave the same results, accept for N64.
If anyone remembers who ever made the original N64 controller was probably smoking something good when they designed it and due to this you need to take full advantage of all of the buttons on the Datel Wii wireless retro controller. Only one application was able to do this as of this point, being Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.). Regardless of how it ran I was only able to play golden eye via Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and not
Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley)
Conclusions
Datel Wii wireless retro controller is honestly a better controller to sync to any android device in my humble opinion as of this point then a standard wii mote. Most android users will be syncing controllers to their devices to play emulated games and while the wii mote accomplishes this its not great at it, and honestly kind of sucks for systems with alot of buttons on the controller (PS1 and N64). The only way to get around the button limitation as of this point that I know of is using Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and Datel Wii wireless retro controller.
P.S. I would love a PS3 sync app but as of this point it does not exist
Did you set wiiremote ime as the keyboard input?
Hi,
Yep I did.
Alternately, if your Xoom is Rooted, try Rwiimote.
Its not but I guess I could. What's the advantage of rwiimote?
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Not sure what the advantages are, I've only come across it recently, but I'd have thought worth a go to see whether it works.
I have mine working with all the emulators. Make sure you enable a
"Alternate control" or whatever.
Edit : the setting is actually "use input method"
Edit 2: i use wiimote controller by ccp
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Salpula said:
I have mine working with all the emulators. Make sure you enable a
"Alternate control" or whatever.
Edit : the setting is actually "use input method"
Edit 2: i use wiimote controller by ccp
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This...if you don't check that box it wont work, even if you set the mappings.
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Some other users are reporting great success with this controller. Any updates? If not, wanna sell it to me
Bumped with new info
Just got my Datel and I'm at work so I've only tested it with SNESoid and N64oid but it's working well. I was using Rwiimote for the wiimote but the Datel doesn't seem to like this. Quickly downloaded Wiimote Controller and configured and was impressing my co-workers with Super Mario Kart. Lovely.
I wish the controller werent so expensive...and RARE, not even amazon has them, the hell. I'll probably stick with my wiimote/classic controller pro combo, at least for a month or so. Isnt onlive supposed to be releasing a controller for the ipad and android?
Ouch, $40? I paid$23 on ebay.
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patass said:
I wish the controller werent so expensive...and RARE, not even amazon has them, the hell. I'll probably stick with my wiimote/classic controller pro combo, at least for a month or so. Isnt onlive supposed to be releasing a controller for the ipad and android?
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Here you have one for sale. Bought this one and it arrived today, took 4 days to Sweden
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Datel-Wireless-Retro-Controller-Wii/dp/B002BA5FAC/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1301071596&sr=8-23
Amazon UK doesnt ship to the states, and after conversion and shipping it would end up being the same price or more
I ordered mine from here, price is pretty good. I believe they deliver internationally.
http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/NintendoWiigp47epbpy/Datel_Wii_Wireless_Retro_Controller
Just got one a few days ago works flawless, great build quality and is completely wireless. Highly recommend this to anyone its a great product
i'll probably look for one while im in new york next weekend
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hi all,
I just bought a datel wireless retro controller and played for a while with FPse and GameBoid. I found that it is really hard to execute top-left, top-right, bottom left and bottom-right these 4 directions by using the control pad. Does anyone have the same experience?
I don't have much experience on game issues, so i don't know if that is normal or not. Thanks for help.
Pretty exciting stuff. I gave it a shot and it seems to work well, but you really need a controller to go anywhere. Has anyone tried a phonejoy or similar with onlive? Or would you need to get the onlive branded one?
I actually just got my shipment notification from Phonejoy. I'm very interested in seeing if this will work. I'm crossing my fingers since phonejoy states the app must allow keyboard input for their controller to work. Onlive certainly allows for keyboard input. I'll report back once I get my controller.
PhoneJoy partially works
SO far I have managed to get the direction keys to work, but not the regular buttons. I will let you know when or if they are working.
Can we use the sixaxis program and use our wireless ps3 controllers for this?
I'm wondering, has there been any developement? I would LOVE to get my Phonejoy working on OnLive, it would make it simply perfect.
k1ska said:
I'm wondering, has there been any developement? I would LOVE to get my Phonejoy working on OnLive, it would make it simply perfect.
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i just emailed onlive.
ofcourse, they want us to buy a universal onlive controller, otherwise they are unwilling to help.
heres a thought, figure out what keys do what on a bluetooth keyboard paired with the phone and then set up phonejoy to use these keys as buttons.
equlizer said:
Can we use the sixaxis program and use our wireless ps3 controllers for this?
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Yes, assuming sixaxis controller works on the SII. Only used it on my Tab
Cptnodegard said:
Yes, assuming sixaxis controller works on the SII. Only used it on my Tab
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Could anyone provide an update on whether this was successful for you guys? My Kindle Fire HD is arriving tomorrow and I'm interested in using the phonejoy bluetooth controller with it and the OnLive gaming service.
P.S. The noob video for this site is hilarious. And awesome. I hope I'm doing the right thing. :laugh:
So far I got:
Dead Trigger
Shadowgun
kronium said:
So far I got:
Dead Trigger
Shadowgun
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What kind of gamepad are you talking about?
ps3 with the sixaxis app?
or ps3 usb or xbox usb?
Not being picky or judgmental or anything, but if your gonna start this list you should be a bit more specific as to your gamepad.
also... is this thread even in the right place? lol
I thought the sixaxis app mimicked the usb port? Basically games that officially have game pad support like the two I listed. If there's a controller plugged in the game will offer up mapping settings for the controller. Where else should this thread go?
kronium said:
I thought the sixaxis app mimicked the usb port? Basically games that officially have game pad support like the two I listed. If there's a controller plugged in the game will offer up mapping settings for the controller. Where else should this thread go?
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I think this should go to the q&a
And as far as I know the sixaxis app either mimics the screen touch or the virtual keyboard...
Correct me if I'm wrong but if tit's a touchscreen game then as long as someone makes a touch profile, then aren't all games compatible?
I controlpad works with everything i have tried it with
Hi
I've been toying with the idea of using the note as amongst other things a sort of game tab.
With that said, I've been researching around the web and found a plethora of gampads both usb and BT.
Now the one thing that seems to be an issue is game support and remapping of keys.Also in alot of cases ( samsung gamepad!!! ) you also have to repurchase the games either from playstore or from developer xxxxxx market .
I've tested a few , amongst them steelseries free, but there is always something missing.
For example I love the size and feel of the steelseries, but the game support is so so, and even games that it does support have missing features/ functions. Best example GTA 3 + steelseries free = no button for horn in the game ( a few missions actually need that)
Now I've considered getting a ps3 controller, but I'm not planing to root my unit anytime soon ( unless the whole knox issue is sorted), but then I'm left with the question is there a way to remap key without root?
Or for that mater are there any other controllers that would allow that without root??
Anyone?
Check out the Nyko Playpad. I BELIEVE with the Nyko Playground app you might be able to do the reconfiguration to your liking.
My review of the pad is here: http://reviews.greenrobotgamer.com/game-review/nyko-playpad-pro-controller/
Can anyone confirm the remapping of nyko is possible without root??
Anyone have anything to add to this?
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Try a wired ps3 pad with sixassix or however its spelt its not to problematic but unsure if you can remap without root but I'm sure that will be your best bet its quite easy to remap and build touch profiles just search YouTube and you will be well away
I have a moga controller and use the universal moga driver app. It allows me to use the controller as a virtual keypad (gamepad mode requires root) and it works just fine for my PSOne and SNES games.
I'd also recommend the moga pro. Best gamepad out there. Official and unofficial driver app, for gamepad or keyboard input and complete 360 style layout. Also very nice attachment for smartphones and works with alot of games out of the box and all emulators i tried have a profile for it. Epsxe for example even with analog support.
clouds5 said:
I'd also recommend the moga pro. Best gamepad out there. Official and unofficial driver app, for gamepad or keyboard input and complete 360 style layout. Also very nice attachment for smartphones and works with alot of games out of the box and all emulators i tried have a profile for it. Epsxe for example even with analog support.
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Can you confirm key remapping and " touchscreen "support ?
DeBoX said:
Can you confirm key remapping and " touchscreen "support ?
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Hm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean so I'll try
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.obsidianx.android.mogaime
with this app you can use the gamepad in "keyboard mode" meaning you can map any button on the gamepad to any "key" possible on the android keyboard. In this mode all keys are digital buttons though including the analog sticks, because that's the way keyboards work. This works without root.
The app has a gamepad mode which enables full analog support for the sticks but that requires root.
-->BUT there is an official moga app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bda.pivot.mogapgp) which also has two modes which you can switch to with the controller itself. There is a "moga" mode (green light) and a standard HID gamepad mode (orange light). With those two modes you're able to basically play every android game that has built in gamepad support, including full analog sticks. And both the ps1 emulator i use (epsxe) and the N64 emu (Mupen64) work with one of those modes out of the box. I don't even have the universal driver installed anymore because it is not needed in most cases.
Now to your other thing, I believe you mean mapping touchscreen input to the buttons? Bad news: There is no app or controller that allows you to do that without root. As far as I know at least, and I was following the development of those apps quite closely, even worked as a beta tester for this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoygold
Just the info I was looking for
While on the subject, does the sixaxis app work without root? Might be able to get my hands on a ps3 controller.
Strongly considering moga at this point.
btw any experience with the moga pocket or hero (small one) ??
DeBoX said:
Just the info I was looking for
While on the subject, does the sixaxis app work without root? Might be able to get my hands on a ps3 controller.
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Sixaxis and a PS3 controller work very well, have touchscreen support and allow remapping but you have to be rooted. I have used Sixaxis on my Xoom and S4 (both of which are rooted) but thanks to Samsung and their stupid Knox nonsense, I cannot use Sixaxis on my Note.
I figured that you need root to get touchscreen part working, but do you need root for the rest ( on the sixaxis app) ie will it work at all without root?
Not keen on shelling out 25$ and realising that I might as well bought a moga hero or pocket for a 10 or so more that would to the job just as well.
btw any thoughts on nyko playpad vs moga hero or pocket?
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I figured that you need root to get touchscreen part working, but do you need root for the rest ( on the sixaxis app) ie will it work at all without root?
Not keen on shelling out 25$ and realising that I might as well bought a moga hero or pocket for a 10 or so more that would to the job just as well.
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Just read the description of the app on play store. The first line under important says Root required. So yes it needs root. And I'm sure you'll find reviews of those controllers on YouTube.
You can connect a ps3 controller to a android wireless but you will need root privileges. An OTG Cable Could be used to connect the controll with a wire and without root.
Can someone recommend me a controller that has good compatibility for both emulators and android games themselves? I'd like something that easily works. I'm noticing some posts around the internet where people aren't having issues with emulators, but are having issues with android games, or the exact opposite. I have a rooted fire tv in case that is needed for some controller compatibility apk.
lolwatpear said:
Can someone recommend me a controller that has good compatibility for both emulators and android games themselves? I'd like something that easily works. I'm noticing some posts around the internet where people aren't having issues with emulators, but are having issues with android games, or the exact opposite. I have a rooted fire tv in case that is needed for some controller compatibility apk.
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I bought the Amazon Fire TV Game Controller, works with anything that supports gamepads. I have a PS3 & Xbox 360 controllers that worked good on somethings and sucked on others. So i've been really happy with the Amazon Game Controller.
I got the Ouya controller. It works well and functions as a mouse as well.
The Amazon controller has worked for me with:
NES
Genesis
SNES
DC
PS 1
I can not get it to figure out N64 commands, and this is an emulator problem. I may have to connect a mouse to map to the controller. If anyone has figured out N64 on Fire TV, please post
Anyone tried the Wiimote?
xm41907 said:
I got the Ouya controller. It works well and functions as a mouse as well.
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Doesn't work with Minecraft Pocket Edition. Or did you get it to work ?
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Doesn't work with Minecraft Pocket Edition. Or did you get it to work ?
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Which version are you using? I have the Google Play version sideloaded. I would like to get the Fire TV version as it works with the remote, but since I only have the stick, I can't purchase and download it.
Neo3D said:
Anyone tried the Wiimote?
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I'm curious also if anyone uses a wiimote for any emulators/amazon games. Does the classic controller extension work with it? Does it even work in the emulators at all?
I want to get a controller for my FTV but I have so many around my house I don't want another one, so if I can find one that works with what I want to do I'd rather just use it
Also anyone tried using PS3 controller, does it even work?
I've heard it mentioned that it was possible but no instructions- does anyone know if a wireless Xbox 360 can be paired to the FIre TV, and if so, how? Note- I'm asking about the wireless being paired directly via bluetooth- NOT using a USB dongle or adapter.
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I've heard it mentioned that it was possible but no instructions- does anyone know if a wireless Xbox 360 can be paired to the FIre TV, and if so, how? Note- I'm asking about the wireless being paired directly via bluetooth- NOT using a USB dongle or adapter.
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Unless there has been some recent development on that, its not possible without the dongle sorry
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I've heard it mentioned that it was possible but no instructions- does anyone know if a wireless Xbox 360 can be paired to the FIre TV, and if so, how? Note- I'm asking about the wireless being paired directly via bluetooth- NOT using a USB dongle or adapter.
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No. Xbox controllers use a proprietary wireless standard, not straight Bluetooth. It can only be paired with the adapter.
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Doesn't work with Minecraft Pocket Edition. Or did you get it to work ?
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I updated my Minecraft version and the Ouya controller works well with it.
xm41907 said:
I updated my Minecraft version and the Ouya controller works well with it.
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Nice ! What version are you using ? ps: the touchpad works but I can't use the buttons/stick.
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I'm curious also if anyone uses a wiimote for any emulators/amazon games. Does the classic controller extension work with it? Does it even work in the emulators at all?
I want to get a controller for my FTV but I have so many around my house I don't want another one, so if I can find one that works with what I want to do I'd rather just use it
Also anyone tried using PS3 controller, does it even work?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/n64-games-wiimote-root-t3006978
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Nice ! What version are you using ? ps: the touchpad works but I can't use the buttons/stick.
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Here is the version/filename. com.mojang.minecraftpe_0.9.5_600905000