Alright, I'm sure this has come across many peoples minds. Which is better? Cm9, or the new official ICS release from LG. Give us your input!
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Those loving roms and a bit vanilla will always like cm better than stock!
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I am getting much better battery life and performance using the ics leak. But I miss a lot of the features that were available on CM9.
Battery backup
Battery back-up on stock battery now rocking high on the ICS leak 1Day and 5hrs and still kicking.The new power save feature is also ausome.
Same thing here. Much better overall performance and battery life with ICS leak, compared to CM9. Used it for couple days, and there is not a single reason that I can see to go back to CM9.
This is what I've found:
ICS Advantages:
Proper driver support
Excellent UI
Better battery life
More responsive interface
CM9 Advantages:
No bloatware
Open architecture allows for more tweaking
AOSP apps
Constant improvement
Push:
In-app performance
I've found the leaked ICS more than stable enough to be a daily driver. In fact, in 3 days of usage I've had no more problems than any stock firmware build I've ever had in a phone. Heck, it's got fewer problems than the stock GB build did.
On the other hand, CM9 is *not* stable or polished enough to be a daily driver for me. The biggest problem was there were issues that were keeping the phone awake even when not used and absolutely killing battery life. Processes not being killed off properly, sensor issues, backlight and radio problems, the list went on.
YMMV, obviously - some people have had way fewer problems with CM9. It's just not the case for me.
mith13 said:
Battery back-up on stock battery now rocking high on the ICS leak 1Day and 5hrs and still kicking.The new power save feature is also ausome.
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That is awesome! You guys with ICS are making me jealous. I'll have to wait for an official release as I'm not comfortable upgrading it like y'all on my own.
Have to agree. Stock ROM is actually impressive. Fluid, and even rootable, so I got rid of what bloatware there was (which really was not a lot to begin with).
On that note, does anyone know how I can switch from CM9 to the new ICS, step by step? And also, How can I still keep all my stuff? I'm not sure if Titanium Backup will work or not on CM9, I heard it had issues.
I'm personally gonna stick with CM9 because it's more than stable enough for me and constantly improving. But switching from CM9 to LG ICS is as easy as putting the phone in download mode and running the 1-click installer.
Backing up app data via TiBU should be fine. Just don't restore system data when you are in LG ICS.
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Installing LG's ICS is easy. It's getting back to CM9 (or any other ROM) that is difficult.
I haven't really had any issues with cm9 nightly. Ive been running it as my daily driver and it does a good job and my battery life goes to about 18 hours with heavy usage (extended battery). im thinking about going to ICS leak but i really enojoy the way that im able to tweak clock speeds (specially past 1.5GHz), tweak the memory and apply themes on cm9 (I dislike looking at the same thing for a while **coughcoughiphonecoughcough**) Hope to see a kernel and custom rom for atleast the leaked ICS. Its a loud call but will is it loud enough? :-/
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Installing LG's ICS is easy. It's getting back to CM9 (or any other ROM) that is difficult.
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What exactly is difficult? It's too easy, just requires a little more manipulation.
Machzelet said:
What exactly is difficult? It's too easy, just requires a little more manipulation.
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yeah mate !!
special thanks to your supereasy guide !
""devs/people at xda consider these things as hurdles, not dead ends""
Switched from CM9 to ICS and so far....
I'm not really liking it. Might be because of the difficulty it gave me with TiBu, or maybe its because I can't use the volume buttons to change tracks on poweramp anymore. Then there's the cartoony lool and lack of CWM. I don't know, but it just rubs me the wrong way right now.
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No CWM: back to CM9
I want to go back from the leaked ICS release to CM9, but without CWM working, how do i do it? do i need to use the unbricking method? i would rather not since it looks like a nightmare. I have backups from CWM on my sd card of both stock and CM9, and my Nitro is rooted on the new leak. someone please help!
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I want to go back from the leaked ICS release to CM9, but without CWM working, how do i do it? do i need to use the unbricking method? i would rather not since it looks like a nightmare. I have backups from CWM on my sd card of both stock and CM9, and my Nitro is rooted on the new leak. someone please help!
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I'm in the same exact situation. Anyone know how?
SergioFern said:
I want to go back from the leaked ICS release to CM9, but without CWM working, how do i do it? do i need to use the unbricking method? i would rather not since it looks like a nightmare. I have backups from CWM on my sd card of both stock and CM9, and my Nitro is rooted on the new leak. someone please help!
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If you have root, you only need to follow the LAST steps of the unbricking guide -- starting from the heading "Restoring the original Nitro HD images" on the guide. Doing the stuff before that is just wasting your time.
If you don't have root (and can't get it to root), then you'd have to follow the full guide.
Edit: Please only attempt these steps if you know what you're doing. There may be unforeseen complications because the new ICS ROM is not fully understood at this point in time. Don't blame me if your phone stops working.
possibly
drumist said:
If you have root, you only need to follow the LAST steps of the unbricking guide -- starting from the heading "Restoring the original Nitro HD images" on the guide. Doing the stuff before that is just wasting your time.
If you don't have root (and can't get it to root), then you'd have to follow the full guide.
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Going to try this, maybe tomorrow. I will update with results. Thanks for the help!
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Going to try this, maybe tomorrow. I will update with results. Thanks for the help!
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Please notice my edit to my last post. Some people have had issues returning to CM9 while others have been able to do it without any issues. Just be aware that there is still some uncertainty with what exactly the leaked ICS ROM has modified.
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I have been using Bonsai 4.0 for a long time. I would like to get a gingerbread ROM.
Which one would be the best?
I need good battery life.
I need good GPS.
I need no crashes.
Thanks everyone!
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I have been using Bonsai 4.0 for a long time. I would like to get a gingerbread ROM.
Which one would be the best?
I need good battery life.
I need good GPS.
I need no crashes.
Thanks everyone!
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Really your results may vary from others expierence so with that taken into account try Legendary 2.2. I used that for a while and was able to squeeze out around 18+ hours in low signal areas. I don't know if the gps is alright but there is a fix and its not a flashable it has to do with permissions. Also you can add the newest samurai kernel with that. Since your on an old rom I'm sure you have no clue about the mtd and bml partitions available so be cautions on what you download and flash. If your on bml make sure the kernel is as well.
Another suggestion is try cm7 with the samurai kernel. If 4g isn't a deal breaker.
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I personally reccommend Clean GB MTD. Its super stable for me and doesn't inlcude to much extra stuff that pulls from you battery. I like something simple and functional so this was my pick. Also if you decide to use it make sure to read about MTD first in android development because it functions quite differently.
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badbeats said:
I have been using Bonsai 4.0 for a long time. I would like to get a gingerbread ROM.
Which one would be the best?
I need good battery life.
I need good GPS.
I need no crashes.
Thanks everyone!
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look at this...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427645
I've tried a number and Marcusant v2 has been the best for me in terms of stability, speed, GPS, and lack of bugs.
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I personally reccommend Clean GB MTD. Its super stable for me and doesn't inlcude to much extra stuff that pulls from you battery. I like something simple and functional so this was my pick. Also if you decide to use it make sure to read about MTD first in android development because it functions quite differently.
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I changed from Bonsia to CleanGB MTD over a week ago & REALLY like this new rom.
Much faster & smoother. My vote is for CleanGB MTD......
Do a little reading first though.....
Ok, like the OP, I have been running Bonsai 4.0 from day 1. (I guess it works so well, we never look for upgrade? or maybe the 4.1 brick fiasco scared us off, lol)
Epic 4g flashed to cricket, rooted, CWM 3.0, ext4, goLauncher. fairly happy, but could use some more speed and battery, plus new toys are FUN. So....
Let's have it out. Here's what my research has turned up:
Bonsai 4.1.3 (stable, but froyo based)
vs
Sprint's new OTA GB update (don't really wanna unroot unless there's something amazing about this, plus as a cricket customer, can I even get this update?)
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Legendary
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CleanGB
vs
SleeperROM
I've heard a bit in this thread about SleeperVSCleanGB, but I'd like more comparisons, and to hear about any other candidates/factors we should be considering (Xtreme? will I lose ext4 by switching to MTD? should I care?)
thx a bunch for your time!
Yes you will lose ext4 by switching to mtd... but you gain yaffs2 which is much more stable than ext4... so no worries there... and I have tried every ei22 rom out and the best bml imo is legendary and the best mtd is viper rom or cleangb mtd.... being a cricket user you probably won't get the ota because sprint is who pushes it out... also if your using bonsais recovery you will need to flash cwm 5.0.2.7 (officially supported for our phones) before trying to upgrade to a custom ei22 rom... you won't lose root by going to any of the custom roms cuz root is already in the roms as you probably know... and imo ei22 is way better than froyo... only problem with ei22 was the gps (I never had any problems but most did) but all of the custom ei22 roms have the gps fix built in... happy flashing!
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badbeats said:
I have been using Bonsai 4.0 for a long time. I would like to get a gingerbread ROM.
Which one would be the best?
I need good battery life.
I need good GPS.
I need no crashes.
Thanks everyone!
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Personally my favorites are cm7 and miui.us, though I haven't tried any ei22 based roms.
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Im on MIUI at the moment, but I've tried quite a few. You can read as many posts about how a certain ROM works. But, you won't really know what suits you and your phone until you try them out!
BTW- I Like MIUI a lot, except for how fast my batteries die(i carry a backup).
I go through both in LESS than 12 hours, easy! Then again, the problem may be with my phone or the charger i'm using, so don't let me discourage you.
I suggest CM7 but I'm bias as I assist with the development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427645
Really the best thing to do is try all of them and see what you like best each phone reacts differently with different ROM. Many people report CM7 being the best battery wise but others have terrible results.
GPS wise most roms share the same GPS fixes so you shouldn't notice a difference between individual roms.
Cool, thx for the feedback. I will check out Viper, MIUI, and CM7 (been eyeing cyanogenmod for a while, but I thought they hadn't ported for Epic 4G yet?)
Also glad my fear of leaving ext4 is gone....by bye BML, hello MTD!
Now, if we can just get that ICS ported.....
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Cool, thx for the feedback. I will check out Viper, MIUI, and CM7 (been eyeing cyanogenmod for a while, but I thought they hadn't ported for Epic 4G yet?)
Also glad my fear of leaving ext4 is gone....by bye BML, hello MTD!
Now, if we can just get that ICS ported.....
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Yep cm7 has the 4g and cm9 (ics based) is on the horizon!!!
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Also seems like I should try the BML roms 1st, since if I want to switch back from a MTD rom, I have to Odin it, yes? (Seems the layers of complexity/risk go apps/themes/launchers/titanium backups/CWM restores/ODIN.... I feel like I want to avoid ODIN except in emergencies, lol)
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Also seems like I should try the BML roms 1st, since if I want to switch back from a MTD rom, I have to Odin it, yes? (Seems the layers of complexity/risk go apps/themes/launchers/titanium backups/CWM restores/ODIN.... I feel like I want to avoid ODIN except in emergencies, lol)
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Odin really isn't that bad as long as you don't use the stock cable and get a good one... a follow all directions to the T! And yes to go back from mtd you do have to odin... but like I said not that bad... I do it at least once a week...
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For me, IMHO, it is a toss up between Clean GB and Starsky ROM (both MTD versions).
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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try stock, try custom.. then let us know whats best for you. choice, my friend, is a wonderful thing
it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
Have you guys tried the Gummy ROM or lean kernel? Any tips to avoid any of the problems I mentioned such as shutter lag or UI lag?
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
did the stock thing (with a few root mods like battery, menu button, brightness) for a couple months, then loaded up AOKP + leankernel and love the customization and battery life
will not go back to stock
If your device does what you want it to RIGHT NOW, then stay stock. If there are features that you want and only a custom rom can provide, then try a ROM, but be aware that custom kernels and ROMS can break some functions on your phone.
I was using CM7 on my previous android phone and lost the ability to receive voicemail notifications because of it.
Decide if you need "more", but accept any risks that come up because of it.
I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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DaF1974 said:
I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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+1 for aokp + franco , they are awesome.
Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
Nadroid - flash = see for yourself. I also recommend AOKP M3. And stock has bugs also. The only ROM that ever rebooted on me, was stock. So. Nothing is perfect that is why we like to change everything.
I'm using stock still, but rooted and using a modified status bar transparent. I plan to switch to custom but just taking my time. You can easily just nand backup your stock rom, flash custom for testing, then restore your stock backup if need be. There are lots of enhancements in the custom roms that is worthwhile.
I only got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday, however i think the stock rom is great to be honest.
There was always some problem with custom roms on the Desire.
If i was going to use a custom rom on my Galaxy Nexus i would wait for the stable release of CM9 or MIUI (if there ever is a stable one).
For now stock is fine for me personally, only thing i really miss is all the settings in the notification tray, but rooted stock is working perfect for me and its nice to have a perfectly working phone for once
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I know what you mean. I kept mine stock for months, which is longer than any other phone I've had. But I finally bit the bullet and went custom and I'm glad I did. You just gotta try for your self and see which you prefer.
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it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
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Laird_Attwood said:
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
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after doing whatever you want to your phone, if youre not going to flash anything, relock bootloader
stupidslow02gt said:
Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
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A(ndroid)O(pen)S(ource)P(roject).
A(ndroid)O(pen)K(kang)P(project) is a custom rom by TeamKang, based on AOSP releases from Google.
Search tags: kang, aosp, source.android.com
@OP, i say just go with whatever you feel is working for you. If you feel stock is better, stick with it. I run my nexus bone stock (even with stock recovery, i use fastboot to boot cwm once, flash zip with a different font, just tired of roboto) from time to time, to get a grip of how things are going with official releases. I have no issues.
And there's no more Android OS bug. Use better battery stats (here in xda) to see whats causing wakelocks, which drains battery more than usual. If you have lte device you'll have considerably worse runtime on battery, if you on gsm then you'll get around 1d15h with 3h40 screen on with stock, when all is optimal. Lets face it, current battery technology blows.
Read a lot before flashing anything, till the point you are able to help others when they face issues without having really tested it yourself, to know possible advantages/disadvantages of x software/mod, if its user error, apps, or custom rom, or stock.
This is android as its supposed to be, some have even got bored of how easy it gets to play with this device.
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sillverdj said:
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Yea LiquidSmooth is what I'm running on. Very fast and loads of features while being easy on the battery.
Everyone claims their 'insert rom' is easier on battery, but with the exception of those who have actively coded something like AOKP's battery saver, or BAMF Paradigm's tasker support in their LTE widget, its a bunch of BS.
Someone please show me, aside from the above, source code for a rom that saves battery. I'll settle for a github commit.
Most battery savings will come from lack of bugs that cause resource leaks and wake locks, or kernels.
All these claims are ranking right up there with statements like "deodexed for performance" or "ribbed for her pleasure".
I did flash a rom early on (Apex I believe it was) and I forget the reasoning behind me going back to stock but I am completely happy with staying on stock (& rooted) yakju. I will probably go to a rom sometime again in the future but for now I am good.
The good thing about flashing stock is that it is so easy to do it with fastboot so at any time you arent happy with roms you can just go back to stock.
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
rdcrds said:
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
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I like Calks (2) Roms...Either One and and right now Im runnin Mijjah 74's Goodness at the Moment...Ive run all three... All three Roms work exceptionally Well..
probably Calkulin but...
i agree about the three of those being good bets. i've heard and read the most positive things about Calukin's stuff. It's not uncommon for other ROMs to be based on his work.
That being said, I'm also on Mijjah's Blend ICS (the Goodness). The earlier versions had a few more hiccups (mainly GPS). I'm on ver 2.5.1 and have not ran into any issues yet. GPS, check. Notification sounds, check. Notification LED indicator... oh, OK. 1 minor issue so far.
The test builds of CM9 is working pretty well, battery life is kinda bad though and for some reason it doesn't play audio through my car dock.
Sigh, back to Gingerbread I go...
Depends on your personal preference... If you wish to remain on Touchwiz, try one of the above suggestions.
For AOSP, there's CM9, AOKP, and Codename. All are smooth and filled with customizable options.
Personally, I'm in love with Codename(over General atm)
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AOKP is badass for sure, TCP did a great job. Much better than the others imo. Havent tried Codename yet but i hear its slightly better due to more customizing
rdcrds said:
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
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These ICS roms have tons of bugs. Nothing really major aside from complete incompatibility with my bt car kit.
But still, they are far from being a daily driver.
If I had to choose, I'd probably pick aospmod rom.
nabbed said:
These ICS roms have tons of bugs. Nothing really major aside from complete incompatibility with my bt car kit.
But still, they are far from being a daily driver.
If I had to choose, I'd probably pick aospmod rom.
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False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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I've been running Codename for a week, and haven't experienced a single serious bug. It's almost as solid for me as the GB Touchwiz roms were.
OP, it really depends on what you want. If you want Touchwiz, then I'd definitely go with one of Calk's roms. If you want AOSP, then I'd recommend Codename, followed by CM9, then AOKP.
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False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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I think 99% might be an overestimate. Some lucky folk have had that experience, a great many other people are getting only a "few" bugs, but fundamental ones, like borked contacts and failing notifications, etc.
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zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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What do you mean by 99% bug free? One percent of phone functions are broken? Out of what, a thousand?
I'd agree. And that one percent is almost always a deal breaker.
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I've been running Codename for a week, and haven't experienced a single serious bug. It's almost as solid for me as the GB Touchwiz roms were.
OP, it really depends on what you want. If you want Touchwiz, then I'd definitely go with one of Calk's roms. If you want AOSP, then I'd recommend Codename, followed by CM9, then AOKP.
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So, you're saying your video camera works perfect?
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So, you're saying your video camera works perfect?
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I said serious bugs. I don't ever use my video camera, so it's not a serious bug for me. It may be to the OP, and if so, then I would recommend that they stay on a rom where the video camera works.
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What do you mean by 99% bug free? One percent of phone functions are broken? Out of what, a thousand?
I'd agree. And that one percent is almost always a deal breaker.
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I don't know of any rom on any phone that works 100%. Even official Samsung releases don't work 100%.
I keep running back to gingerbread. I kept telling myself that I will try ics when its an official release. I get the itch to flash something and always go back to what works. I was running for a day, a rom from someone, but had to Odin back to EL29 because there was something I wanted to do but couldn't because of a snafu. I personally prefer stability over the newest bells and whistles.
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I keep running back to gingerbread. I kept telling myself that I will try ics when its an official release. I get the itch to flash something and always go back to what works. I was running for a day, a rom from someone, but had to Odin back to EL29 because there was something I wanted to do but couldn't because of a snafu. I personally prefer stability over the newest bells and whistles.
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Same here. I keep telling myself it would be the same, buggy enough not to be useful as a daily driver, but the flashaholic in me takes over.
So, hours are usually wasted.
Yeah i think ill just update cauks non ics rom for a bit yet and let the bugs play out.
I've been running Agat63's tFCXX series (currently on tFC18 0.1.1) since FC06; they're as smooth as ICS roms get, IMHO. A nice light "frosting" of the AOSP ICS look (courtesy of tiffany84), choice between stock and rogue-repacked (w/ CWM recovery) kernels, otherwise generally fairly close to the "stock" leaks except where Agat can convince himself he's not adding bugs/instability beyond what is naturally going to be in a leaked pre-release with build.prop tweaks, bloatware trimming, and such. Plus he's incredibly responsive to his users' requests and very open to providing them options.
FC06/FC07 was _just_ good enough to be a DD for me (but _barely_). FC15 and now FC18 have been nearly flawless in my experience. Of course, YMMV but I find _very_ little to complain about. Just my experience - the one thing I've learned from reading a LOT in ICS related threads is that everybody's phone behaves a little bit differently, everyone uses their phone a little bit differently, and everyone wants something a little bit different -- my recommendation would be to nandroid and start testing the roms ppl mention in this thread until you find one that works well for you (or decide ICS isn't done enough for you yet and you want to stay on GB a little bit longer).
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my recommendation would be to nandroid and start testing the roms ppl mention in this thread until you find one that works well for you (or decide ICS isn't done enough for you yet and you want to stay on GB a little bit longer).
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My recommendation would be to wait until an official ICS release.
There's really not that much new ICS has to offer over GB. Not for this phone anyway.
nabbed said:
My recommendation would be to wait until an official ICS release.
There's really not that much new ICS has to offer over GB. Not for this phone anyway.
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For tw roms, yes ics is very similar to gb. But there's a world of difference between gb aosp and ics aosp. Like cm7 << cm9. Agreed that there's still bugs to be worked out for any ics roms, but some really good work has been done by our devs without having e4gt ics source released.
OP, if you do try ics roms right now, its a really good idea to be very cautious using any ics recovery. There is a real risk with bricking your phone, especially with aosp roms.
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I'm an experienced ROM flasher and I've been using CM9 on my OG Epic 4g since the first beta. My question is for my wife's new Epic 4G Touch. We upgraded her from a Nexus S 4G and she really liked the stock ICS on that. (Got a great deal on the upgrade with Best Buy's Buy Back program! After all was said and done, we got the GSII plus insurance for free plus an $85 gift card!)
I would like to flash CM9 on her GSII. Will it be enough like her old Nexus S to make her feel comfortable? TW is driving her a bit nuts.
Thanks in advance!
Jason
You could go with cm9 alpha 4 and use kobridges tweaks for great battery life
I would flash calks 1.6 with the Kobridge tweaks. just throw nova launcher on there and it will be more than enough speed and battery,
They just released a pre-alpha for cm9 5, so you could also wait for a more stable version of 5 to come out if you're set on CM
CM9 is plenty stable enough for daily use. Since you're experienced, you can upgrade her CM9 anytime a new major build or the final comes out.
Yes she would feel very comfortable. But I'd advise her to update the ROM as new builds are made, even though there are a few minor bugs to none left. I've only experienced one bug and it's when the 3g icon goes white and no data can be retrieved. The work around is to toggle airplane mode on and off. But I myself use an app that automatically detects this and fixed the problem. So you can say I am bug free but keep in mind, not everyone experiences that bug.
Btw CM9 is the most stable AOSP ROM here so good choice. Flash the pre-alpha 5 version as it is the latest and make sure you've updated to the latest ICS modem or whichever ICS modem you want. Latest is preferred lol (FE22)
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Cyanogenmod 9 is very stable there is and alpha 5 pre1 I flashed the fe16 kernel after the gapps and I get extreamly great battery life.
There is no touchwiz or any of that Samsung/Sprint bloatware and it has a nice stock android experience.
go for it... nuff said!
Although I'd say it is stable, I don't think battery life is up to par with GB roms. Keep that in mind if battery life is going to be a major point for this person.
I'd say either CM9, ParanoidAndroid, or MIUI...
Maybe you'll just have to flash a few rooms and see which one she likes the most. MIUI makes the UI very simple like an iPhone kinda... there are many themes available for it. CM9 is just a modified/tweaked AOSP rom, it has your basic Android UI which you can also theme using the baked in theme chooser. ParanoidAndroid is based off of CM9 with it's own tweaks/modifications baked into the system, it has app specific screen density settings which allows you to run an app as if your phone was a tablet. It is mainly a power user rom but with some use is very easy to configure.
Like I said you might want to see what she would like to run on this beast of a phone... maybe before you know it she'll be a power user and start teaching you a few tips and tricks lol. Hope this helps even if it is just a little bit. Cheers :beer:
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. I'm going to give CM9 a shot. I'll make sure to get a good nandroid backup just in case. And thanks for the reminder about Nova Launcher, afinch1992. I run it on my phone and agree it would be a good choice for her.
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Like I said you might want to see what she would like to run on this beast of a phone... maybe before you know it she'll be a power user and start teaching you a few tips and tricks lol. Hope this helps even if it is just a little bit. Cheers :beer:
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LOL. Yeah, I'm a little envious of her phone, but my upgrade is in August and I will probably get the SIII. That will make me feel a little better
Just make sure you follow the install guide to the letter. Don't want to end up with a brick.
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html
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Just make sure you follow the install guide to the letter. Don't want to end up with a brick.
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html
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Brick would be bad. I'd never hear the end of that. Thanks for the link. My first step will be following QBKing77's root video to try to root, install CWM and do a nandroid without losing data. Also going to use MyBackup before I try to root.
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Brick would be bad. I'd never hear the end of that. Thanks for the link. My first step will be following QBKing77's root video to try to root, install CWM and do a nandroid without losing data. Also going to use MyBackup before I try to root.
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Yeah definitely follow a guide. Its not normal par for the course at the moment with the whole EMMC firmware bug frying storage when Erase_All is called. Aka dont format or erase (or in my opinion use) CWM once on cm9 or any ICS based rom until source is released and the devs can easily fix it.
I got a brand new Galaxy S3 on Monday. Coming from an Inspire 4g and an HD2 before that, I'm not new to flashing ROMs or anything. I rooted that phone almost instantly, because it was a refurbished phone and didn't have a warranty. Now on this one, I'm a bit hesitant to root or flash any custom ROMs.
I've also read a bit about stock vs AOSP ROMs... can any one give me an example of each? Preferably a stable, JB based ROM? I would like to use a stock based ROM so I can have all my apps and settings back when I flash. This stock ROM is eating up battery life rather quickly so I want something quick, stable, and visually pleasing without any bloatware.
I am aware that I can just return my phone to the store within 14 days if it doesn't work... an employee told me they don't even look to see if it's rooted or has a custom ROM.
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I got a brand new Galaxy S3 on Monday. Coming from an Inspire 4g and an HD2 before that, I'm not new to flashing ROMs or anything. I rooted that phone almost instantly, because it was a refurbished phone and didn't have a warranty. Now on this one, I'm a bit hesitant to root or flash any custom ROMs.
I've also read a bit about stock vs AOSP ROMs... can any one give me an example of each? Preferably a stable, JB based ROM? I would like to use a stock based ROM so I can have all my apps and settings back when I flash. This stock ROM is eating up battery life rather quickly so I want something quick, stable, and visually pleasing without any bloatware.
I am aware that I can just return my phone to the store within 14 days if it doesn't work... an employee told me they don't even look to see if it's rooted or has a custom ROM.
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I think it is worth it. Look through the S3 forums and you'll find various options for ROMs that meet your needs. I'm running Serenity v1.1 which is a JB GNote2 port. It is stable and works well for me.
I would also read MrRobinsons stickied post about Rooting. Towards the bottom of the OP there is a tool mentioned that he made that will help you de-bloat. It works wonderfully. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
I noticed it says the ATT one is " New Image Based off ATT I747UCALG1"
I have the newest software, would I be able to update after doing this? Or will that put me right back where I am now
I just put CM 10 over the stock ICE. Incredible difference. Go for it!
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It really depends on what kind of user you are. If you're a user that prefers stability and is not that much of a 'power user', then the risks might be troublesome for you. If you're the user that wants adventure and doesn't mind fixing bugs every now and then, then give it a go. I'm a user that's in a middle of both - I like stability and I'm kind of a power user and I also enjoy fixing bugs because I learn something new and the experience of fixing bugs increases my knowledge of how my phone works. IMO, the most stable ROM I've used so far is CM10 - I'm currently using a nightly build and it works great so far - although it kinda has a few problems like some programs crashing unexpectedly and some phone functions not working properly. My advice is that you decide first what type of user you are and then evaluate the risks you're going to take - there's a high chance that you might brick your phone even if you've rooted a phone before as there are different specs for every phoen and one mistake could cause a serious trouble.
SGS3 aokp jb, d2att 3.9.12 by task 650+ktoonsez kt747 kernel
Rooting is easy on this phone, use galaxys3root.com for figuring out rooting and here's a link to aokp jelly bean 4.1.2 by task650 and ktoonsez it is by far in my opinion the best ROM out for the att variant right now its very light and very fast with more customods then you can imagine! Just get rooted install latest cmw recovery I reccomend the touch version and read all of task650's steps for flashing and I guarantee you will be pleased rooting this phone is definitely worth it just wait til you try it with it over clocked to 2100megahertz it crazy fast! I phone ain't got jack on this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684
bg4710 said:
Rooting is easy on this phone, use galaxys3root.com for figuring out rooting and here's a link to aokp jelly bean 4.1.2 by task650 and ktoonsez it is by far in my opinion the best ROM out for the att variant right now its very light and very fast with more customods then you can imagine! Just get rooted install latest cmw recovery I reccomend the touch version and read all of task650's steps for flashing and I guarantee you will be pleased rooting this phone is definitely worth it just wait til you try it with it over clocked to 2100megahertz it crazy fast! I phone ain't got jack on this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684
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In my opinion, I would prefer this guide first before that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
That guide shows information that's what you're probably going to need if you don't want your phone to get out of warranty and if you want your phone's radio functioning properly. I followed that guide step-by-step and thoroughly and so far, I've achieved the desired result which is not to trip the flash counter. Also, I would also suggest that you search through the forums for revised rooting guides before you root your S3.
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I got a brand new Galaxy S3 on Monday. Coming from an Inspire 4g and an HD2 before that, I'm not new to flashing ROMs or anything. I rooted that phone almost instantly, because it was a refurbished phone and didn't have a warranty. Now on this one, I'm a bit hesitant to root or flash any custom ROMs.
I've also read a bit about stock vs AOSP ROMs... can any one give me an example of each? Preferably a stable, JB based ROM? I would like to use a stock based ROM so I can have all my apps and settings back when I flash. This stock ROM is eating up battery life rather quickly so I want something quick, stable, and visually pleasing without any bloatware.
I am aware that I can just return my phone to the store within 14 days if it doesn't work... an employee told me they don't even look to see if it's rooted or has a custom ROM.
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Here's another thought.
I came from an HD2 which from day one, I was flashing roms and kernels like crazy. I became very good at customizing and finding what I liked. I even worked very closely and aided some of the more popular rom devs. I even designed or hacked out some of my own mods including a memory management system. BUT...I could never achieve with the amazing HD2 (ahead of it' time in many ways) what the Stock Rom ICS and my S3 has done out of the box.
I meant to go to CM10 or a custom rom of some sort, but the stock rom has been a DREAM of stability which I never achieved with the HD2. It's rooted and that allows me to customize features and have more choices for apps that require root etc. I fixed a few things, added Go Launcher EX which was a huge improvement and offers awesome features, tweaked etc., and this thing runs near perfect. It's plenty fast enough. My I747m has 2gb ram and I could write a book as to why I think the 2gb makes a world of potential difference depending on setup. Also, as usual, I have frozen quite a few stock apps with Titanium Backup and replaced them with my favorite apps. (eg Handcent SMS, Kaiten Email, Boat Browser) I miss some CM features that I used to have but I have great speed, fluidity, reliability and generous flexibility....so for now...I am not doing a custom rom. FOR ME personally, I need to stay with a stable rom because I just came from near 2 years of FIXING and tweaking and killing hours upon hours.
I would be happy with just rooting it, as long as I could remove bloatware!
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I would be happy with just rooting it, as long as I could remove bloatware!
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That's what I would do Synyster. It's great to explore, tweak, flash....etc., but if you want the best bang for the buck, best use of time, least amount of troubleshooting and testing.... imho...
- root and install custom CWM for easy flashing of updates/tweaks and for easy backup.
-buy/install Titanium Backup pro and either remove or safer....FREEZE bloatware.
There's a lot of cool things with the AOSP roms. However, I'm at the point where I've become OCD with flashing nightlies. The more I flash ROMs the more nit picky I have been. I'm looking to go back to stock firmware, debloat, root, and CWM. I think that'll be good enough for stability IMO...
I'd say so!