[Q] Desire Z noob stuck in rooting... - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

New Desire Z, from asia via ebay, looks to be tmobile, trying to unlock to use on ATT/straight talk here in the states. I started following the rooting instructions here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Everything was going fine, I got to "5. Verify the success of gfree". I then noticed my phone had hung on the white/green HTC boot up screen with the previous step's reboot command. The computer seems to recognize the phone being plugged in, but the command prompt says device not found. I can get to HBOOT just fine, which is were I got this info... any help would be greatly appreciated...
VISION PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.84.2000 (PC10*****)
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.02.01.15_M2
eMMC-boot
Sep 8 2010 15:56:38
I did check before I got started, and I'm pretty sure it was platform 1.34

Does the phone say 'T-Mobile' above the screen?
If it does its a g2, in which case you flashed the dz hboot, so you just need to go to recovery and flash a rom for it to be working fine again.
-Nipqer

Thanks for the reply Nipqer!
It doesn't say Tmobile on the body/case anywhere, but when I first booted the phone up, the initial splash screen did say Tmobile, and it maybe had a G2 logo on it as well...
So you're saying just assume everything worked correctly, even though it won't load it's current version of froyo, and just load up a new rom from recovery?
Thanks so much for the help! I was afraid I had bricked it! I've been through this before with a couple of TP2's and my current Inspire, but this Desire Z seems to be a bit more tricky!

Yeah flash a new rom and that should get it working properly.
It probably had a g2 hboot originally, so the rom partitions don't match the new partition table.
-Nipqer

You were absolutely correct Nipqer, it loaded up the rom great! Now my only problem is that I'm stuck on really slow edge... I guess my ATT sim card isn't going to acheive 3g? Do I need tmobile to get 3g?

I don't think you need a change in sim cards. The problem might lie with the build.prop or radio
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

strawmetal said:
I don't think you need a change in sim cards. The problem might lie with the build.prop or radio
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I would love to hear more about this... I love the phone and would love to able to use it on AT&T's network (via straight talk, as I do with my HTC Inspire right now). Tmobile in my area is not so great and would make keeping the Desire Z not worth it.
When I look around it looks like AT&T runs 3G on 850/1900, and it looks like in the specs of this phone it should be able to operate on those frequencies. So what am I missing?
I rooted, unlocked, flashed, entered the apn's correctly... would flashing a different radio help?
MOVED---> started a new thread now that I'm past rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26610373#post26610373

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Rooting Telstra HTC Desire

Hi guys, I'm new here and i've just had my Desire for just over a week.
Apparently I need to use a Goldcard to root my desire and wanted to ask a couple of questions in regards to this.
-My understanding is that the Telstra Desires are unlocked, therefore not needing a Goldcard?
-After the rooting process is finished do you still need the Goldcard or is it only needed while you initially root the phone?
-During the rooting process, you replace the original rom with another rom, can this be any rom on the market that is rooted? or should it be the recommended rom stated in the guide?
-Which set of files do i use during the rooting guides? as the phone is bootloader 0.75 but has a 1.16.841.1 rom?
I have done a fair amount of reading on other posts(XDA and MoDaCo) and just need to get a better understanding of how the rooting process works.
Desire Bootloader Shows:
BRAVO UNKNOW SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH-PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
Device:
Stock Telstra ROM
HTC Desire A8183
Build 1.16.841.1
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
jrc91 said:
Hi guys, I'm new here and i've just had my Desire for just over a week.
Apparently I need to use a Goldcard to root my desire and wanted to ask a couple of questions in regards to this.
-My understanding is that the Telstra Desires are unlocked, therefore not needing a Goldcard?
-After the rooting process is finished do you still need the Goldcard or is it only needed while you initially root the phone?
-During the rooting process, you replace the original rom with another rom, can this be any rom on the market that is rooted? or should it be the recommended rom stated in the guide?
-Which set of files do i use during the rooting guides? as the phone is bootloader 0.75 but has a 1.16.841.1 rom?
I have done a fair amount of reading on other posts(XDA and MoDaCo) and just need to get a better understanding of how the rooting process works.
Desire Bootloader Shows:
BRAVO UNKNOW SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH-PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
Device:
Stock Telstra ROM
HTC Desire A8183
Build 1.16.841.1
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Howdy, as I have a Telstra Desire I think I can help.
1. You need the gold card, there are guides about, but leave a message in this thread if you need specific direction.
2. I would use whatever ROM is in the guide, I have been using Rom Manager to switch ROM's since then though. (Which is currently broken for me, working on it now)
3. I used the 0.8 or greater guide one on mine, seemed to do the job.
so to sum it up
a. make gold card, I have kept this card on my 2gb micro sd
b. flash rom, I have this on my 4gb micro sd
c. use new stuff, I have a 16gb flash for my daily use.
Enjoy but be prepared to have a few bugs pop up. Also, no FROYO roms have video recording working yet..... (This is the biggest missing feature)
Thanks heaps.
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
have you had any problems with GPS since flashing custom roms?
Sorry, i've been reading heaps, and i think i'm confusing myself more than making sense.
Mate I have a Telstra Desire as well, I rooted/flashed it last night (after weeks of paranoia), and it's well worth it. Just follow the instructions closely and you will be right.
I am running 24/6 Modaco and GPS seemed to be working well this morning, battery consumption seems a little better, the overall performance is heaps better than stock.
What are you waiting for!? DO IT!!!!
Same here, if you need help you can pm me if you cant reach mrturkey
Great! i'll probably have a go this weekend.
A couple of other questions: are you still able to connect to the Telstra Next G Network? I assume you would be able to as you don't flash the radio?
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
Thanks in advance
jrc91 said:
Great! i'll probably have a go this weekend.
A couple of other questions: are you still able to connect to the Telstra Next G Network? I assume you would be able to as you don't flash the radio?
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
Thanks in advance
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Yep can still connect to NextG, I always check the APN's after putting a new rom as most of the time I have to change a couple of settings in them.
Don't need goldcard to boot after rooting is done
Best way to flash ROM's is from the SD card IMO.
The ROM manager / fakeflash methods are the easiest way to go (I use ROM manager) it is pretty straight forward to use, and yes you do need to root before using rom manager.
telstra next g vs 3g
Hi guys - just a quick question for those of you who are running Telstra Desires on Optus and other networks. Someone mentioned on whirlpool that the NextG version is actually missing the correct 3G band for running on the other networks (3G 900 Mhz?) and that the overseas/non-telstra versions are actually faster because they run at 3G speed rather than '2.5G'. Does that sound right to you, or is the speed of the Telstra Desire just fine on the Optus network?
Quote from Whirlpool:
I initially bought the Telstra-Branded Htc-Desire & brang it back for a REFUND.!
(I should of known better to listen to Telstra sales, as I hate branded phones)
I also use Optus, & having the Telstra branded one is, U miss out on the 3G 900mhz bandwidth...
Internet speeds have now gone waaay faster now & works like it's suppose too ... And so it should ...
OK well it indicates that it is connected as 3g, and in some areas h.
The speed seemed acceptable to me this morning when I downloaded some app updates.
How can I tell for sure whether its 2.5 or 3?
The NextG network is 3G. 2.5G is the old designation for GSM (or CDMA) networks with GPRS.
For optus you'll need to get the international version of the Desire (A8181) which works on the 900/2100 bands. According to wiki optus runs their own 3G network on 900. The telstra Desire runs on 850/2100.
btw...the "h" indicates HSPA support
jbngar said:
Hi guys - just a quick question for those of you who are running Telstra Desires on Optus and other networks. Someone mentioned on whirlpool that the NextG version is actually missing the correct 3G band for running on the other networks (3G 900 Mhz?) and that the overseas/non-telstra versions are actually faster because they run at 3G speed rather than '2.5G'. Does that sound right to you, or is the speed of the Telstra Desire just fine on the Optus network?
Quote from Whirlpool:
I initially bought the Telstra-Branded Htc-Desire & brang it back for a REFUND.!
(I should of known better to listen to Telstra sales, as I hate branded phones)
I also use Optus, & having the Telstra branded one is, U miss out on the 3G 900mhz bandwidth...
Internet speeds have now gone waaay faster now & works like it's suppose too ... And so it should ...
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I have a Telstra Desire running on the Optus network, and the speed is really good.
I rooted and my Desire over the weekend and loaded Modaco 1.21.mcr.2 CLxxxxxx ROM as a first custom ROM. Had a few issues with loading on the custom recovery after loading my custom rom (issues were due to adb drivers on windows OS - use a linux distro to load the recovery from UnrEVOked's recovery flashing thingamebob, then use ClockworkMod ROM Recovery from the Android market.
Ill try other ROMs this weekend once i am not using the phone for work...but all in all the phone is so much faster without the Telstra bloatware on it.
Thanks to all the developers around...(I will thank you financially aswell).

Quick rooting question

Now uh, go easy on me, my first time posting here.
I may seem like a total idiot here, but the amount of conflicting information I've seen is quite confusing. I've searched and searched and the more I read the less I seemed to be sure of.
My question:
Can I do the unrevoked method of rooting ('theunlockr.com - how to root htc desire unrevoked method' 20.9.10) [cant post links] on my specific device?
My handset information is
Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT- 0.87.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.09.00.08
Android version: 2.2
Software number: 2.06.832.1
The 0.87 HBOOT seems rather rare on the forums, I don't know why. All I've read is that at one point the 0.87 version could not be rooted, but I don't know if that is still the case (this was information from April-July) and the unrevoked tutorial states that 'At this time, unrevoked3 works on all versions of the supported phones', which my phone would come under the CDMA Desire (BravoC) I'm pretty sure. Just would like some quick confirmation from you lot before I go and do something stupid.
Thanks!
it was mentioned that hboot version doesnt matter when using new unrevoked
If you've got S-OFF then you don't need to root do you? It should already be done...CDMA phones when rooted with unrEVOked get S-OFF
Sounds like you're already rooted, check to see if you've got Superuser Permissions in your program list
Nope, no superuser permissions, and the phones unused.
The fact that the phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM makes it the CDMA 'Bravo' model right?
Well if what you have written is indeed what it says in hboot, then you are s-off and it should be easy to flash or install super user to the phone
My phone supports WCDMA and GSM - it's not the same as CDMA...
Do you use a SIM card in your phone? If so, it's a GSM phone
Just double checked it, it definately says S-OFF, everything in the first post was 100% correct.
Strange, the phone is actually a Hong Kong model that I ordered, saving me quite a bit of money being in Australia. Seems a bit iffy that it was unlocked from the start, actually makes me think it's a used model, even though everything else looks and works flawlessly. Probably shouldn't complain, even though they've caused me a bit of confusion.
So these rooted ROMs that people are developing all contain the superuser permissions application, I can't seem to find that individual application for download though. Hmmm.
edit: found the application, installing.
Ah, so I have the GSM model.
When did you get the phone? The S-OFF 'hack' has only just come out so unless you're on an engineering Desire (which is highly unlikely) then someone cracked it before selling the phone...
If I were you, I'd follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
and go back to a stock WWE ROM and then root it using unrEVOked 3.14 and then you can flash whatever ROM you want...easier than faffing about with S-OFF and the like (you don't really need it unless you wanna change the initial splash screen or you're a developer)
I got the phone about a week ago.
Cheers for the advice.
EddyOS said:
When did you get the phone? The S-OFF 'hack' has only just come out so unless you're on an engineering Desire (which is highly unlikely) then someone cracked it before selling the phone...
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Well the hboot version he is mentioning is not the same as the one patched by ieftm, so he might just have recieved a developer device? Sounds strange though.
And as eddyos is saying, you could just flash a ruu and go the traditional route, if you cant figure it out using the s-off hboot. It's pretty cool though.
edit: if it is an actual s-off device, wouldn't the flag for s-off be set and flashing a ruu would not help it? Just like unrevoked forever on evo?

[Q] Telstra HTC desire - cannot install custom rom

Hi, im a bit stuck here, I have a telstra desire with their 2.1 rom, and a hboot of 0.83.0001 it seems to be able to install clockworkmod ok, and I can get into it but when I install a custom rom, after the reboot, it sticks on the telstra splash screen and vibrates 7 times. at this point if I try to boot into recovery it also does the same thing, the only way to recover is to go into fastboot and update the official telstra RUU again.
I have tried the latest Modaco rom and the latest Leedriod rom, both same effect.
this is exactly what I did to install Leedriod:
install clockworkmod from unrevoked3
copied these 2 files to SD:
32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2.zip
LeeDrOiD_V2.1a_NoA2SD.zip
boot into clockworkmod, Erased Data, into advanced, erased davlik cache
install from zip > choose zip to install > chose LeeDriod > installing......
once that finished, I installed the radio, then chose reboot from the clockworkmod menu.
it rebooted and got a little picture of a box and an arrow coming out of it for a few seconds, then I got the telstra spash screen and 7 vibrates.
has anyone got any idea where im going wrong? I cant seem to find any information and im a bit of a noob to android, just defected from the world of WM (Tytn2)
ok so I have done a little bit of trial and error, turns out my problem is the radio.
Tried 2 different radio roms, both end up stopping the phone from booting at all. must be something different to the hardware in this new desire that needs a special radio rom maybe?
jayme,
You've likely hit the nail on the head with your issue. Telstra models of the Desire (8183) use a different set of radio hardware. Telstra runs their own 'Next G' network, which is a different frequency network to the rest of the world.
This frequency (850Mhz) requires different hardware to be installed on the phone, which is why the Telstra version of the phone will only ever work on the Telstra network.
My suggestion would be to find a rom that supports the 850Mhz network, using a compatible radio module. Failing that you may have to learn how to build your own.
Good luck.
I actually installed the leedriod froyo rom fine and it works as long as I leave the original radio module untouched, but then I get the stability issues associated with running earlier radios on froyo. what im wondering is what are all these other telstra users running custom froyo roms using for their radio. ive read guides taht say which radio to install on a telstra desire and mine just doesnt work with those versions.
I may have to wait for the official telstra 2.2. update and the compatible radio rom that comes with it
Waiting sounds like your only option. I bought an unbranded phone to use on the Optus network. Thankfully Froyo 2.2 came out a few weeks back, and I'm quite happy with it.
Waiting can be a pain in the arse and considering how long this country has to wait for things from Telstra, getting 2.2 might be a belated Christmas present next year...
Good luck with whatever you chose.
Try teppic74's Rom here <forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997>.
I had full success and converted my Telstra branded Desire into generic HTC Desire.
NextG functionality was not affected by flashing teppic74's Rom with the Radio.
Cheers
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
Hi there. Another telstra desire user here. I've had mine since July, amoled and hboot 0.83. I rooted soon after getting it and have run roms from t-mod and cyanogen from whirlpool.net.au. it's. A great place to start and lots of awesome advice too. I wouldn't be here if not for muskier, Bog, and s-murphy. They have links to radio and roms there. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Sorry I meant to spell muskie and Bof.
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well turns out the 2 radios I flashed happen to be the 2 radios my phoen wont boot with. both of them have _2 at the end. all the rest seem to work fine, I have since updated to the latest radio and im a happy froyo user. as for t-mod, wtf is the point of it lol, my UAstring is not the special telstra one and everything works fine, even data usage
talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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What radio are you running?
How did you do the S-OFF hack? I really want to get rid of the splashscreen...
talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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+1 to talkiet...
I've had about 15 different ROMS and maybe 8 radios on my telstra desire, never had a problem. (mine is the AMOLED version originally HBOOT .75 now .93 version). The only thing that sometimes goes wrong is the APN settings and thats easy to fix.
I'm not sure how all those UA strings work, but to be honest i've not bothered checking my data usage or so on for a fair while, and the Bigpond unmetered sites are pretty worthless anyway. I never go over and I play around with the phone a lot. So, you can put pretty much any ROM on and just tweak the APNs a bit and no worries!
concerning S_OFF,
its not hard to do at all. just follow the instructions on the alpharev site to the letter, I was worried about bricking my phone, same as the first time I put a custom ROM on there, but if you do your homework, you'll be sweet. When you think about it, the S-OFF process is pretty safe as so many people do it and have a look about, there's not many saying they have ruined their phone using the S-OFF program.
The only thing i've actually broken on my phone over the last year is the sd card (very recently), trying to reformat it for data to ext ROM. Of course it was a cheap one and the card that came with the phone (samsung brand i think) worked fine when i formatted it and stuck it in.
Phone: Desire A8183 AMOLED S-OFF
HBOOT .93 and CWM 3.x
ROM: Crystal Kingdom v0.2 D2EXT+ (damo is a legend!!)
htc a8183 show welcom and vibrating
how to s-off this phone
hboot-0.75.0000
radio-4.50.00.11
any one help me
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
nlooooo said:
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
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lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
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For me it's the easiest way to upload radio and hboot, get s-off with revolutionary then root and you're open to all possibilities...
That RUU is simply made for all Desires, no brick issues, no radio compatibility issues...

Stock/custom Rom+SD Contents!

Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki
1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes
ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now
Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.
How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"
Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.
Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..
Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.
Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.
Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml
Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.
Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?
I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity

[Q] Stuck in a loop please help

Incrediblec XD ship S-On
Hboot-0.92.0000
microp-0417
touch panel-atmelc03_16ac
Radio-2.15.10.07.07
Jul 23 2010, 18:06:51
Hello, first thank you for an amazing and current forum, I'd been researching my issue for a while, but most things are dated around 2010. I've experience rooting and ROMing a Droid X with multiple ROMS, but I use the original Incredible as my main phone because I still love it. Well, I originally rooted my Inc with Unrevoked3 I believe. I left the ROM as stock up until a couple months ago when I put CM7.2.0 on it.
About a week ago, the phone would always have working mobile data. Yet, if I received or tried to make a call, I couldn't and then I would lose texting ability. Then, a couple days ago, I was using the Inc for wifi tethering when suddenly it went into an Incredible bootloop. I tried booting to the cyanogen recovery, but it will quickly loop out of it as well.
I went to pvillecomp.com/ and downloaded all the stock Inc software. I individually renamed files to PB31IMG.zip and tried to have HBoot pick up on them. Hboot will see the files, but then do nothing. Except, the originally ROM will get checked and come back and say that the current version is older and can't be flashed.
I've always tried the RUU software for hboot and the original ROM. I either get a usb error or a low battery error even if the battery is charged. Granted, I'm trying the RUU from the phone's bootloader screen.
Does anyone have some support they could throw this way? I use my phone for internet and everything. Thank you all.
-Nevin
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Has anyone any ideas? I've since ordered a replacement phone, but would really like a workaround in case something would happen again or even to fix the old one. Thanx all.
-Nevin
NevinInc said:
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Has anyone any ideas? I've since ordered a replacement phone, but would really like a workaround in case something would happen again or even to fix the old one. Thanx all.
-Nevin
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did you flash any radios? Flashing radios always ends up bad.
NevinInc said:
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Has anyone any ideas? I've since ordered a replacement phone, but would really like a workaround in case something would happen again or even to fix the old one. Thanx all.
-Nevin
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S-off, flash TWRP (because CWM sucks) and flash a new rom. This should fix everything. Flashing a radio DOES not screw everything unless you do not know what to flash, in that case you should not be flashing radios.
I'm looking into the TWRP stuff right now since I've only experience with CWM. My only concern is that I still have S-on. How can I get S-off on my phone when I've only access to the bootloader? Sorry if this is a bit off a noob post, I've simply not the experience with the incredible to know. Thank you so much.
-Nevin
123421342 said:
S-off, flash TWRP (because CWM sucks) and flash a new rom. This should fix everything. Flashing a radio DOES not screw everything unless you do not know what to flash, in that case you should not be flashing radios.
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Btw, no I didn't flash the radio. That was the only thing I didn't attempt to flash. Yet, when attempting to flash anything else, nothing worked. Still wondering about getting S-off before using TWRP, but hopeful to still get it working. Thank you again.
NevinInc said:
I'm looking into the TWRP stuff right now since I've only experience with CWM. My only concern is that I still have S-on. How can I get S-off on my phone when I've only access to the bootloader? Sorry if this is a bit off a noob post, I've simply not the experience with the incredible to know. Thank you so much.
-Nevin
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BUMP/UPDATE:
Yes, I'm still at it trying to get my Dinc out of it's bootloop and up/running. It's difficult at this point to say what all I've tried. At one point I wanted to use htcdev.com to ensure the bootloader was unlocked/etc. I've had much trouble trying to get fastboot to work correctly on my pc. I've seem to get stuck on "waiting for device" which appears to be a driver error.
I gave up on that and started focusing on the RUU process. I've tried to install the entire Gingerbread 605.3 file. I fixed the error usb 170 by updated or changing htc sync software. Now I'm left with error 140 bootloader error.
I've also updated hboot using the ruu process for version 605.2. This worked on my pc and got me partially excited. Now my hboot shows up as "Locked" now at the top. I also downloaded a different Stock.img file. Hboot detected this and begun the install process. Everything came up as complete and upon reboot went right back into the white screen/incredible bootloop.
So since posting before I've updated htc sync on my pc and have officially relocked my bootloader. I don't mind RUU'ing things to stock, but now gotta get past the Error 140. Any ideas?
So I'm not sure how many are looking at this or have had ideas, but I was able to use htcdev to unlock the bootloader.
Before unlocking the bootloader I was able to RUU to image .15. After this is when I unlocked the booloader. The RUU said it was complete, but I still only bootloop on the incredible white screen. Now, some of the pb31img.zip files I've come across don't even try to install. This includes signed and unsigned .15 img files. Currently these are the new settings to the phone:
Bootloader: unlocked, s-on
hboot 1.07.0000
radio - 2.15.10.12.20
Image version: 4.08.605.15
The last option I can think of is to try using fastboot, but won't that essentially do the same thing? If you think fastboot is the way to go, can u link me or give me some basics on using it. Obviously I used it for unlocking the bootloader so it can't be that complicated.
Are there any other ideas or should I give up on my Dinc? Looking forward to hear what you think. Thanx.
-Nevin
somebody recommended you install TWRP and install a stable Jellybean ROM. Did you try that?

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