Can anyone (Dev) please explain why phones get bricked? I'm just curious what's going on behind the scene. BTW I know why phones get bricked - bad flash, wronf ROM or Kernal - But I want to know why there is hard brick why we won't be able to do a reset and make it work.
why would a "brick" even exists in the first place?
Thanks guys
am not a Dev but will hazard a guess...
A Hard brick is a phone which had some sort of issue while in download mode and didn't get enough of the uploading ROM to have anything to reboot with.
Here's an example of how I am pretty sure you can hard brick your phone:
1. put it into download mode and connect to computer
2. fire up Odin, find a Rom to flash and start the process.
3. Before the process finishes disconnect and pull the battery.
4. Try to boot... Bet it's hard bricked.
When a flash goes bad it can leave nothing for the phone to boot from. It's like having a blank hard drive without the ability to format it and write a boot sector...
Hope that helps.
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am not a Dev but will hazard a guess...
A Hard brick is a phone which had some sort of issue while in download mode and didn't get enough of the uploading ROM to have anything to reboot with.
Here's an example of how I am pretty sure you can hard brick your phone:
1. put it into download mode and connect to computer
2. fire up Odin, find a Rom to flash and start the process.
3. Before the process finishes disconnect and pull the battery.
4. Try to boot... Bet it's hard bricked.
When a flash goes bad it can leave nothing for the phone to boot from. It's like having a blank hard drive without the ability to format it and write a boot sector...
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I don't think so cuz you can still enter download mode and Odin a recovery.
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Its our blue screen of death basically. You can screw with your big cpu so much its time to go back to walmart, right? Same with little cpu in your pocket.
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Android_Monsters said:
Its our blue screen of death basically. You can screw with your big cpu so much its time to go back to walmart, right? Same with little cpu in your pocket.
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You can overclock a cpu on a phone safely without hard bricks. Does it happen? Yes. Most of the time it's not that but if it is, time to go to walmart.
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bzlik88 said:
I don't think so cuz you can still enter download mode and Odin a recovery.
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Try it and let me know how that goes for you...
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Try it and let me know how that goes for you...
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Lolz
Btw DONT try this or you will have a paper weight.
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Try it and let me know how that goes for you...
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I've done this before and didn't hard brick. Maybe I got lucky.
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Beefvvl said:
I've done this before and didn't hard brick. Maybe I got lucky.
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=)
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Am not sure abt what they mean when they say soft and hard brick ... but to me soft is the one u can go to download mode/recovery and get it back working in seconds ... here comes the word soft
As for hard bricks, its that case when ur screwed and cant get to download/recovery mode ... so it becomes f***in hard
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how is everybody? well i rooted my girlfriends 4g a while back, like at least 4 months ago. and its been working fine. she now has a problem. she said she got an update from sprint and restarted her phone about 2 days ago. and it worked up. and her phone died today and when she turned it on she got sent to the ACS recovery screen... what do i do now to get past it or fix it if its a problem?
Reboot system now??
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where is that? i was only able to see turn off and i did it and it only brought me back to the ACS. there are other options like restore and back up; wipe cache;wipe; advanced settings. and maybe im missing something but i dont remember seeing a reboot system now
You just need to get a ROM or Kernel and put your phone in the computer, then put the ROM or Kernel on your SD card, then just flash it. Should boot up.
Its the top option where it says reboot menu then you choose reboo system
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kennysvgp08 said:
You just need to get a ROM or Kernel and put your phone in the computer, then put the ROM or Kernel on your SD card, then just flash it. Should boot up.
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Nope...
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i kept telling her to tell me what the options where and she didnt even tell me that was an option. im going to facetime her now and see what it all says lol. hopefully it works unless she already wiped everything
got it to work. thanks guys.
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kingnba6 said:
got it to work. thanks guys.
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No problem
Always make sure you girlfriend proof the phone before rooting it xD
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Biggoron said:
No problem
Always make sure you girlfriend proof the phone before rooting it xD
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Hahaha... no way to do that unless you tell her not to touch her phone! Lol... my neice sponges her phone once a week... good thing she actually payed attention when I taught her how to odin... lol
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shes just not capable to understanding how to do it. well i have never bothered to teach or anything but still. i just do it and get it over with
Well I flashed cm9 with nyan kernal. Realizing that cm9 wasn't my thing I decided to nand back, so booting into recovery I noticed that my recover has changed, and that my nands won't work. I wiped data/cache and by accident I rebooted
and I got stuck at Samsung boot logo, and I can't get to recovery. Odin can still see my device but it won't go back to stock. So I'm in desperate need of help.
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Make sure you use the victory.pit and check repartition when you odin...
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I did that and it keeps failing
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mudkipz said:
I did that and it keeps failing
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Use a different usb cable.... blackberry cables work great... if that don't work redownload the stock .tar package and reflash...
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If it keeps failing it is a bad cable or download. Get a Blackberry cable.
Flast beat me to it.
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mpman 720
Hi!
i have a bricked mpman mp 720. i have tried several roms and nothing works on it.
does anyone know that where i could get the original rom or if someone has got it? i'm only able to go to FWDN mode.
thank you!
mizka90 said:
Hi!
i have a bricked mpman mp 720. i have tried several roms and nothing works on it.
does anyone know that where i could get the original rom or if someone has got it? i'm only able to go to FWDN mode.
thank you!
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Wrong place bro.... wth is that phone?
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Well its taking a while to get past factory.rys or whatever it says
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mudkipz said:
Well its taking a while to get past factory.rys or whatever it says
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Is the loading bar moving at all? If not then its not going to go anyways and is hung. Try another usb port... ive encountered this problem on another persons pc, switched ports and all was well.
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Back in business
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mizka90 said:
Hi!
i have a bricked mpman mp 720. i have tried several roms and nothing works on it.
does anyone know that where i could get the original rom or if someone has got it? i'm only able to go to FWDN mode.
thank you!
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hey guys, new to this, just got a MP720, not much firmware about for this one, not must of anything really,
I did however find this site with links to the to original firmware from MPMAN,
using google translate haha, it seems the two flavours of chipset for this taplet,
Hynix NAND firmware:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/29403117/MP720 An 2.3_Hynix.rar
Micron NAND firmware:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/29403117/MP720 An 2.3_Micron.rar
Flash Tool:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/29403117/upgrade tool and Introduction.rar
that said i have not tested these FW's and cant vouch for the safety of using them,
I'm not a developer but hopefully they could be usefull for making a cyanogenmod for it (fingers crossed haha) or some one who has bricked there tap,
source:
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t528078
I have downloaded these files so if the link becomes dead please let me know and i will send them
My wife is going to be pissed if this does not get resolved.
I wanted to backup her phone. I already flashed Mr X's telus stock rom a week or so ago. I realized I hadn't done a nandroid backup so I though i'd install rom manager to quickly backup that rom. When I selected it it said clockworkmod recovery wasn't installed so I started the process to flash it (i thought it was strange). It went slow and I thought that I'd flash it again for good measure.
I selected the backup option expecting it to reboot into recovery and back up but nothing happens. I tried to pull the battery and boot into recovery but nothing but black, same with a regular pull and try to boot. I get the boot screen for a second and nothing but black. It will go into download mode.
My guess is it did not flash cwm successfully and this is the cause of problems. How can I fix this without having to wipe even if I can get recovery flashed properly? Can I flash cwm onto it from my pc and possiblly have it boot properly?? I would like to not have to set her phone up again and wipe her sms and things.
Thanks
Flash CWM from ODIN.
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hompsar said:
Flash CWM from ODIN.
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hompsar said:
Flash CWM from ODIN.
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+1 if it doesn't boot up after that might try flashing darkside cachewipe. If that don't work she's gonna be mad at you for flashing rom again and wiping her stuff, might try a dirty flash to save her data.
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Thank you all for the quick advice. I flashed CWM and it rebooted right into my wife's glorious setup! I had the prompt to assign Apex launcher as default but that was it at a glance.
XDA rox.
jets76 said:
Thank you all for the quick advice. I flashed CWM and it rebooted right into my wife's glorious setup! I had the prompt to assign Apex launcher as default but that was it at a glance.
XDA rox.
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Not that i had anything to do with helping you but glad your still alive. I know from experience messing with the wife's phone can result in couch time.
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Not that i had anything to do with helping you but glad your still alive. I know from experience messing with the wife's phone can result in couch time.
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Or just a cold shoulder and no dinner for a week!!
That's the truth! I found it ironic that this happened because I wanted to back it up lol
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Also don't forget how we have to tip toe around our wives when it comes to flashing! "Why are you messing with your phone again?! " Geez
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^^I have found this to be the issue with anything that does not revolve around my wife or child.. It used to be the phone she complained about, until I got a car.. then I started getting complaints about "I really don't see the purpose of brighter lights" or something of that nature.
My wife doesn't let me touch her phone anymore....
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Mine complains, but also won't take my advice on what phone to get. The truth she'll never admit: her G2 running ILWT CM7 is the best any phone has treated her yet, and if she'd just try to learn what a problem means when I've occurs, she could solve it in 10 secs.
My wife doesnt like me wiping her data at all when im flashing a rom...even if her rom is full of bugs and needs a serious update lol stubborn
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Hi, I haven't seen this topic brought up anywhere and needed some help.
I bought an AT&T Galaxy S3 on Oct. 1. I wanted to flash a rom but I can't root my phone, boot into recovery or download mode. Whenever I get into download mode the phone just reboots as soon as I let go of the buttons. My question is, was there was an update applied to the AT&T version that prevented this? Or am I just doing something wrong?
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First of all this is not development in anyway. And I'm not completely sure but it sounds like your doing something wrong. Never had this problem before
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Also I apologize as I think I posted this in the wrong section.
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chad90r said:
First of all this is not development in anyway. And I'm not completely sure but it sounds like your doing something wrong. Never had this problem before
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Yes it was a mistake on my part. For some reason I thought I was in Q&A.
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Don't hold down the buttons so long. As soon as it blips the little text at the top of the screen (I think it says Samsung something) , you can let go.
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Hi, I haven't seen this topic brought up anywhere and needed some help.
I bought an AT&T Galaxy S3 on Oct. 1. I wanted to flash a rom but I can't root my phone, boot into recovery or download mode. Whenever I get into download mode the phone just reboots as soon as I let go of the buttons. My question is, was there was an update applied to the AT&T version that prevented this? Or am I just doing something wrong?
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Do not have the micro usb cable plugged in while attempting this
plug it in after you get to into the mode you want
Thanks for the replies guys. I was holding the buttons for too long. Also the new update issued for the AT&T galaxy S3 overwrites CWM when you reboot the phone so I had to flash cwm using ODIN and uncheck auto reboot and boot into CWM Recovery and install Superuser so I could have root access. Next I had to flash a ROM so that I could maintain CWM. Not too hard of a process but I was getting really frustrated because I couldn't figure out while CWM Recovery wouldn't stick. Now I know, hope that helps anyone else.
Thanks again for the help guys.
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Hello!
So now for a few days my phone has been acting weird. When I wake up in the morning, I see that the phone has restarted under the night and now today, it is kind of dead. First it wouldn't open when pressing homebutton or powerbutton and then I took out the battery and put it in again and then the bootscreen showed twice and after that the phone worked for about 5 minutes to later be frozen again and now it only shows the "Samsung Galaxy Note II" bit before the Samsung logo and won't proceed.
I have rooted my phone and I have Clockwork as recovery and also the mod app2sd to change so my sdcard is the default one. I can access download mode but not recovery.
So I'm hoping for a answer from you guys, how should I "unbrick" it? I still want to keep the stock Samsung ROM. I might agree to add a custom Samsung ROM that only have been bricked because I kinda like the Samsung ROM. But mainly, I want my phone to start!
Regards, DarknessSky
Is there any red light glowing when it is on the n7100 screen?
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UtkarshGupta said:
Is there any red light glowing when it is on the n7100 screen?
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Yes, one at the front. The smallest nearest the SAMSUNG-logo. It did just flash pretty fast when holding power-button.
Sds issue.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Sds issue.
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And does that mean I can't fix it myself?
My warranty is still "active" but I have a rooted phone with CWM and the mod "app2sd". I have used Triangle Away to change the flash count to 0 but when I was "inside" the phone and viewed the phone status it said "modified". Will Samsung notice these things or might they just flash a "working" ROM and then send it back?
Thanks in advance!
It's sds. It can't be booted up without replacing motherboard.
If the counter is zero and binary is official then there should be no issues. If they asking you questions related to rooting which they probably wouldn't just act like a complete ass.
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UtkarshGupta said:
It's sds. It can't be booted up without replacing motherboard.
If the counter is zero and binary is official then there should be no issues. If they asking you questions related to rooting which they probably wouldn't just act like a complete ass.
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Haha, thanks man!
When going into download mode I see this
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME:
CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: No
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
I guess I'm safe due to "custom binary download: no" and "Samsung Official"?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I've got another question that is related to Samsung... When I send my phone in my motherboard then is "broken", right? Do they actually take the time to replace it or do they just send another one? How likely is it that they just send a new one? I've also have a problem with my 3,5mm input because it is too big.
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Sds issue.
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Wasnt this fixed? I never keep my count at 0,should i?
Cruzfire said:
Wasnt this fixed? I never keep my count at 0,should i?
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It's safe to. There have been a few reports that say that SDS occurs with the latest ROMs, and it's been confirmed that if the symptoms start before you flash the relevant updates, there's nothing you can do.
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There are no symptoms other than sudden death.
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same case and ODIN active in download mode
i just need to know what does this mean. i have the same case this guy has.......woke up this morning and phone was on first splash screen and not responding nor allowing recovery mode.
i never rooted it and to my surprize when i enter the download mode i find ODIN!!!
so does this still mean it's an SDS with the motherboard thingi? or can i just flash my first custom rom and get thru the day easily? please advise!